No doubt there are thousands of FTers just hanging out for such an offer but for what it is worth the code VIAJAR used on the Webjet website this weekend will get you 15% off all fares for trips before 16/2.
Place to put in the Promo code is on the 2nd page where available flights are listed.
Good for getting somewhere for Carnival but you're on your own getting back
3544quebec
Jan 13, 12, 5:06 pm
Given the huge level of interest in last weekend's offer :p, this weekend Azul has a similar discount:
(1)Para adquirir 15% (quinze porcento) de desconto em qualquer tarifa, compre usando o código promocional JAN15. Válido para compras realizadas entre as 18h de 13-jan-2012 e as 6h da manhã de 15-jan-2012, e para viagens a serem realizadas até 9-fev-2012.
cloudeleven
Mar 27, 12, 12:34 pm
Any discounts on Webjet, Azul, GOL, TAM, etc.? Traveling in June.
neuromancer
Mar 29, 12, 6:00 pm
There were for 24-25 March. They are usually valid for a few days. You'd better register in the websites to receive promotion notifications.
VidaNaPraia
Apr 5, 12, 1:49 am
How have you paid online on their sites for flights on these airlines? Do they need a Brazilian ID (CPF) and Brazilian issued credit card? Can you get the same discounted fare if not purchasing online or if using an agent?
3544quebec
Apr 14, 12, 6:18 pm
This weekend GOL have a promo: regular price for the outbound R39 for the return for flights until June 28
Tipo de viagem: ida e volta obrigatória.
Período de venda: das 20:00 de 13/04/2012 as 08:00 de 16/04/2012.
Período de voo: 17/04/2012 a 28/06/2012.
Estadia Mínima: 2 dias.
Trechos: todos os trechos domésticos e internacionais regulares operados pela GOL (exceto Caracas e Caribe-Aruba, Barbados, Curaçao, Punta Cana).
Canais de venda: website GOL, agências de viagem e lojas VOEGOL. Não é válido para compras em lojas de aeroportos.
Example fares I found included:
Rio-Iguacu $160 return
Sao- Fortaleza $200 return
Sao- Salvador $150 return
Na Azul, promoção(1) do Dia das Mães é agora! Até 90% DE DESCONTO para voos às terças, quartas e sábados!
Tarifas válidas por trecho. Promoção válida somente para voos diretos operados pela AZUL. As reservas de ida e volta são obrigatórias e devem ser realizadas no mesmo momento, de 07/05/2012 até as 20h de 08/05/2012. Período da viagem de 07/05/12 a 02/06/12, com permanência mínima de 02 (dois) dias no local e viagens realizadas as terças, quartas e/ou sábados.
Sale on Azul purchase 7/5-8/5 fly 7/5-2/6 , flights Tues,Wed and Sat, minimum 2 day stay, round-trip purchase required
Examples include:
Ribeirão Preto (RAO) São Paulo – Campinas (VCP) R$ 59,90(1)
S J do Rio Preto (SJP) São Paulo – Campinas (VCP) R$ 59,90(1)
Curitiba (CWB) São Paulo – Campinas (VCP) R$ 59,90(1)
Belo Horizonte (CNF) Rio de Janeiro (GIG) R$ 59,90(1)
Belo Horizonte (CNF) Vitória (VIX) R$ 79,90(1)
Rio de Janeiro (SDU) São Paulo – Campinas (VCP) R$ 79,90(1)
Rio de Janeiro (GIG) Vitória (VIX) R$ 79,90(1)
Belo Horizonte (CNF) Ribeirão Preto (RAO) R$ 79,90(1)
Are these online fares only? (i.e. can you get the same price at the airport counter in Brazil ?)
Does the site allow online purchase without a Brazilian ID (CPF) and a Brazilian issued credit card?
How do you purchase (from U.S., Europe, Australia, etc) if not?
3544quebec
May 7, 12, 12:15 pm
Are these online fares only? (i.e. can you get the same price at the airport counter in Brazil ?)
Does the site allow online purchase without a Brazilian ID (CPF) and a Brazilian issued credit card?
How do you purchase (from U.S., Europe, Australia, etc) if not?
For the issue of a CPF see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15554204-post7.html
I have no problem booking Webjet and Gol using my pseudo CPF and Australian Credit card. Previously I was able to book OceanAir but am not sure about its Avianca incarnation. Azul I haven't had the need/desire to try - VCP is a bit isolated for my travels from/to Sao Paulo
3544quebec
Jun 1, 12, 10:19 am
Webjet 30% off all fares booked by midnight Sunday fly until July 5th using the code BARATO 4 blackout days 6+7,10+11 June
3544quebec
Jun 1, 12, 6:44 pm
and 25% off all GOL flights until 31/7 book by 8am 4/6 use code voegol25
Valid for international origins/destinations as well eg Buenos Aires/Caracas
VidaNaPraia
Jun 2, 12, 10:05 am
...I have no problem booking Webjet and Gol using my pseudo CPF
This is commonly called fraud, just as if you used a "pseudo" Social Security number. Just because an issue wasn't made of it in your case doesn't mean that is not fact.
3544quebec
Jun 2, 12, 10:40 am
This is commonly called fraud, just as if you used a "pseudo" Social Security number. Just because an issue wasn't made of it in your case doesn't mean that is not fact.
Thanks I appreciate your helpful comment.
And given that these fares have no residential restriction and no benefit is gained that I am not entitled to your definition of fraud may be common but it certainly is not legal.
VidaNaPraia
Jun 3, 12, 12:56 pm
Consider it however you want, but supplying false information to purchase online...is neither moral or legal and IMO should therefore not be encouraged.
And besides, if it means so much to you to repeatedly purchase online, why not simply apply for a real CPF of your own at the nearest Brazilian Consulate? Anyone can do so.
Since, when applying in Brazil, there isn't even a fee for gringos, perhaps that's the case at the Consulate as well (though I personally have not applied there). Free and moral and legal...wow, there's a unique concept. ;)
3544quebec
Jun 4, 12, 4:48 am
Consider it however you want, but supplying false information to purchase online...is neither moral or legal and IMO should therefore not be encouraged.
And besides, if it means so much to you to repeatedly purchase online, why not simply apply for a real CPF of your own at the nearest Brazilian Consulate? Anyone can do so.
Since, when applying in Brazil, there isn't even a fee for gringos, perhaps that's the case at the Consulate as well (though I personally have not applied there). Free and moral and legal...wow, there's a unique concept. ;)
Its a somewhat distorted moral code that allows one
1) on the one hand o falsely on a public forum accuse someone of a particular crime ie fraud where the situation lacks several of the essential components of fraud not the least of which is the lack of any consequent damages to any entity
and
2) to criticise someone for fabricating a number to circumvent an administrative issue that would otherwise block two parties from completing a business transaction that both are happy to make and which while you claim is illegal you have provided no information as to what law is being transgressed.
Of the 2 circumstances which is the more unethical and immoral?
But then people who preach and pontificate at others are often well endowed with one particular attribute - hypocrisy
VidaNaPraia
Jun 5, 12, 12:15 pm
on a public forum accuse someone of a particular crime ie fraud
I did not accuse anyone of anything. I merely stated that falsifying a foreign government ID number in order to obtain services could be considered fraud. (And in fact, even the website that most people use to emit such a false CPF number clearly states that use is not for such purposes.) It is unimportant what business transaction the number is to be used for.
...you claim is illegal you have provided no information as to what law is being transgressed.
I am not a Brazilian lawyer and hence not able to quote chapter and verse off the top of my head, but am advised by several who are that this is indeed breaking Brazilian law.
which is the more unethical and immoral?
Of course, breaking the law, as one does when using a false government issued ID number for a business transaction with a company governed by that same government's laws.
Too bad there are some out there who believe that there own personal convenience trumps all and are proud to trumpet this on a public forum.
3544quebec
Jun 5, 12, 3:25 pm
This is commonly called fraud, . Just because an issue wasn't made of it in your case doesn't mean that is not fact.
I did not accuse anyone of anything. I merely stated that falsifying a foreign government ID number in order to obtain services could be considered fraud.
I clearly misinterpreted the first statement to be more than saying something could be considered fraud
[I am not a Brazilian lawyer and hence not able to quote chapter and verse off the top of my head, but am advised by several who are that this is indeed breaking Brazilian law.
Ok, if we ever get something more definitive than that, I'd be happy to discuss whether or not it is breaking the law and if so if it is or is not moral. In the absence of any actual facts on the matter I'll just go back to posting to the topic of this thread: discount fares on Brasilian airlines
Too bad there are some out there who believe that there own personal convenience trumps all and are proud to trumpet this on a public forum.
Can you point to where this was trumpeted. My recollection is that you requested information about whether discount fares could be booked by non-Brasilians and I provided that information following which you decided to accuse me of a criminal act and acting immorally .
Too bad there are some out there who believe that their own beliefs and moral perspective is the only valid and acceptable approach and trumpet there own opinions/beliefs as fact.
VidaNaPraia
Jun 6, 12, 8:58 am
I'll leave it to the readers of these postings each to decide for her/himself the morality of the situation vs. the conveneince. I imagine most would have better sense than to commit such a fraudulent act, even in the absence of the specifically cited Brazilian law code.
NPF
Jun 6, 12, 1:29 pm
CPF was developed as a control number to be used between each FEDERAL taxpayer and the Receita Federal. It was not conceived to be used as a general ID number, which is as it is used today. If you don't pay federal taxes for a number of years, your CPF will be inactivated and, as far as I know will be forfeited after a number of years inactive. It is not the equivalent of the US Social Security number, which acompanies a person from craddle to grave. For americans, the nearest correspondent would be a TIN (taxpayer id number) and which may or may not be the same as the SSI.
Business, other than financial (banks), originally were not allowed to demand to know your CPF but, as so many laws in Brazil, this one has been distorted and now CPF has a general use, not based on law, but on convenience, to the point that exempt persons fill a "tax exempt declaration" each year so that their CPFs do not get inactivated.
So, airlines and most business in Brazil that demand to know your CPF do not have the legal authority to do it; they just want to assign a unique ID to you. If you give them online your own created CPF, it is my understanding (but IANAL) that you are not commiting a crime, but assigning an ID to you and, perhaps, breaching a contract which was unilaterally imposed on you.
As the business asks you for a number (the CPF) that they are not entitled to demand, and you give a number (invented by you) that they interpret as the CPF, we have the traditional Brazilian 'jeitinho'. Deception? Yes. Fraud (civil) or crime? To me, No!
(The last paragraph supposes that you have not printed a fake CPF card to present if asked - this will be document fraud - nor will try to defraud payment)
3544quebec
Jun 6, 12, 2:35 pm
Thanks NPF for filling in the blanks and providing some actual facts- much of what you said I suspected but as I didn't have the knowledge I didn't feel it appropriate to present my beliefs as fact.
It didn't seem to me any more immoral or illegal than when I have to fabricate a cell phone number for a website that requires one for no good reason (and I don't have a cell phone) or when on aa.com I need to Americanize my Australian postal code in order to get my credit card accepted for payment. Certainly deceptions but deceptions done solely to enable me to complete a transaction and with no other benefit gained by me or harm done to the vendor and not breaking any Ts+Cs restricting purchase based on nationality/residency.
One question I have is whether companies/organisations have real-time access to a database of CPFs and the names that they are attached to.
The reason I ask is that some websites actually do reject my fabricated CPF eg if trying to register for a conference in Brasil some require CPF and name to enter the registration site but recognise either that my CPF is not valid or that it is not a valid CPF/name combination.
NPF
Jun 6, 12, 3:30 pm
One question I have is whether companies/organisations have real-time access to a database of CPFs and the names that they are attached to.
The reason I ask is that some websites actually do reject my fabricated CPF eg if trying to register for a conference in Brasil some require CPF and name to enter the registration site but recognise either that my CPF is not valid or that it is not a valid CPF/name combination.
Bending to a de facto usage of CPFs as universal Brazilian IDs (but without any change to the law) the Receita Federal has introduced a web page in which you can check name vs CPF (and if it is active/inactive/cancelled):
But I doubt that someone could match (automatically) the name and CPF you give to them, as every difference in how the name was written would invalidate the CPF. If you are generating a new CPF for each occasion, I would think more plausible that you have used a bad CPF (one generated by an incorrect algorithm).
What is interesting is that, when the CPF was introduced (1970's, if I remember correctly), it was considered a highly confidential number - I remember ads advising you to treat your CPF number with care; to not disclose it to strangers. Today, it's used everywhere: TAM's FF program gives points to a program named Multiplus, which uses your CPF for your number; my supermarket, which has a discount card, uses CPF to identify its patrons.
I'm always a little bewildered by the non-chalance with which we, Brazilians (including government officers) decide that some laws are to be respected while with others, well, you don't need to bother with them :)
VidaNaPraia
Jun 7, 12, 9:53 am
If you don't pay federal taxes for a number of years, your CPF will be inactivated and, as far as I know will be forfeited after a number of years inactive.
You do not any longer forfeit your CPF number. They are now merely reactivating the original CPF number, even after quite a few years inactive. (We just experienced this recently, so info is very current.)
It is not the equivalent of the US Social Security number, which acompanies a person from craddle to grave.
So yes, it is more like a SS#.
....we have the traditional Brazilian 'jeitinho'. Deception? Yes. Fraud (civil) or crime? To me, No!
To me, yes, the jeitinho is often fraud or subversion of the law of some sort. Sadly, Brazilians seem to be able to overlook this quite easily and consider it a fact of life in Brazil, and also to try it on in other countries. Consequently. I have seen a large number of Brazilians get into serious trouble in the U.S. over such issues.
(The last paragraph supposes that you have not printed a fake CPF card to present if asked - this will be document fraud
Note: The government is NOT, in fact, issuing actual cards anymore.
galego
Jun 14, 12, 8:57 am
Originally Posted by NPF
If you don't pay federal taxes for a number of years, your CPF will be inactivated and, as far as I know will be forfeited after a number of years inactive.
You do not any longer forfeit your CPF number. They are now merely reactivating the original CPF number, even after quite a few years inactive. (We just experienced this recently, so info is very current.)
oh cr*p... I just got a CPF last time I was in Brazil, but as I don't think I'll be living there anytime soon...how do I keep it activated? My local consulate?
Note: The government is NOT, in fact, issuing actual cards anymore.
Yea what's up with that? They printed mine on a tiny scrap of paper (that I had to laminate myself). Now if I show it to people, they either laugh in my face/express confusion that it's not on a blue credit card looking thing
NPF
Jun 14, 12, 4:23 pm
Brazil is a sui-generis country . . . Really . . .
I was trying to answer Galego's questions when I discovered that
Dead people can ask for (after their death, (and obtain it)) a CPF . . .
When these deals come up, can they be booked with an Aussie Amex and no CPF? We need some GOL flights in Sept so it would seem we have to wait for one of these deals to run in August.
neuromancer
Jul 9, 12, 6:05 pm
Yes, international AMEX (without CPF) works with GOL.
(Haven't tried with an Aussie one however)
Purchase by 0800 27/8 for 25% discount on flights up till 30/9
Better add exceto 06 a 07/09 e 09 a 10/09 given I've spent 20mins scratching my head as to why I couldn't find any discounted fares on 7/9Thanks for continuing to post these although I always seem to miss them by a day or so.
Sept 7th is the Independence Day holiday so no surprise it's blacked out.
3544quebec
Sep 1, 12, 4:53 pm
Tipo de viagem: ida ou ida e volta. Canais de venda: Website GOL, agências de viagem e lojas VoeGOL. Não é válido para compras em lojas de aeroportos. Período de venda: 19hs de 31/08 até 08hs de 03/09. Período de voo: até 31/10 (exceto 6 a 10 de setembro e 11 a 15 de outubro). Todos os trechos domésticos e internacionais saídos do Brasil operados por voo GOL (exceto Santiago e Caribe)
Belo Horizonte / Rio de Janeiro
(Confins) (Galeão) R$ 19,99
Belo Horizonte / Rio de Janeiro
(Confins) (Santos Dumont) R$ 19,99
Curitiba / Rio de Janeiro
(Galeão) R$ 19,99
Curitiba / São Paulo
(Guarulhos) R$ 19,99
Florianópolis / Porto Alegre
R$ 19,99
São Paulo / Rio de Janeiro
(Guarulhos) (Santos Dumont) R$ 19,99
Natal / Recife R$ 19,99
Navegantes / Porto Alegre R$ 19,99
Recife / Salvador R$ 19,99
Brasília / São Paulo
(Guarulhos) R$ 39,99
Brasília / Rio de Janeiro
(Santos Dumont) R$ 39,99
Belo Horizonte / Curitiba
(Confins) R$ 39,99
Florianópolis / Rio de Janeiro
(Galeão) R$ 39,99
Florianópolis / São Paulo
(Guarulhos) R$ 39,99
Rio de Janeiro / Porto Alegre
(Galeão) R$ 39,99
São Paulo / Goiânia
(Guarulhos) R$ 39,99
São Paulo / Foz do Iguaçu
(Guarulhos) R$ 39,99
São Paulo / Porto Alegre
(Guarulhos) R$ 39,99
Brasília / Natal
R$ 79,99
Brasília / Salvador
R$ 79,99
Belo Horizonte / Foz do Iguaçu
(Confins) R$ 79,99
São Paulo / Salvador
(Guarulhos) R$ 79,99
São Paulo / Recife
(Guarulhos) R$ 99,99
Prezado cliente: preços por trecho, válidos para compra obrigatória de ida e volta, somente combinados com outras tarifas de maior valor e sujeitos a alteração sem prévio aviso. Vendas de 07 a 09 de setembro de 2012, para voos até 30 de setembro de 2012. Quantidade mínima de 10 assentos por voo, taxas aeroportuárias e taxas de serviço não incluídas.
Tipo de viagem: ida e volta obrigatória. Período de venda: das 08h de 18/01 às 06h de 21/01. Período de voo: 17/02 até 30/04. Estadia Mínima: 2 noites ou 1 sábado. Trechos: apenas domésticos (exceto Fernando de Noronha). Canais de venda: website GOL, agências de viagem e lojas VOEGOL. Não é válido para compras em lojas de aeroportos.
Basically:
Purchase before 0600 on 21/01
Fly until 30/4
Roundtrip required
Regular price for outbound R12 for inbound
Minimum stay 2 nights or Sat
Domestic only (except Fernando de Noronha)
For example was able to price out SAO-Salvador return for R205 or about $US100 in April
VidaNaPraia
Jan 18, 13, 5:43 pm
... was able to price out SAO-Salvador return for R205 or about $US100 in April
Bring your umbrella and be prepared to drink a lot of beer under the closest roof. We now often get lots of rain in April in these days of global warming and crazy weather worldwide.
Termos e Condições:
- Tipo de viagem: ida e volta obrigatórias.
- Antecedência de compra: não há.
- Estadia mínima: 2 noites ou 1 sábado.
- Período de venda: das 20h de 05/04 até as 06h de 08/04.
- Período de voo: até 30/06.
- Trechos: domésticos e internacionais (exceto Aruba, Barbados, Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, Miami, Orlando e Caracas)
eg Sao Paulo - Salvador comes out at R290 return all in for dates that I checked
Termos e Condições:
- Tipo de viagem: Ida e volta obrigatória.
- Antecedência de compra: não há.
- Estadia Mínima: 2 noites ou 1 sábado.
- Período de venda: 20hs de 19/04 até 06hs de 22/04.
- Período de voo: Até 30/06.
- Trechos: Domésticos e Internacionais (Exceto Fernando de Noronha, Aruba, Barbados, Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, Miami, Orlando e Caracas).