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tondoleo
Dec 5, 11, 7:41 pm
I have a trip to TLV in late May. I was wondering which airline iss recommended. Should I travel to EWR or JFK? Or fly via MAD, LHR or BCN? Thank you for your anticipated suggestions and recommendations.


Thumper
Dec 5, 11, 8:21 pm
You should do a search and read the ten or fifteen threads on the subject of US to TLV travel.

tondoleo
Dec 6, 11, 9:49 am
I did the search. Thank you for suggesting it. However, I was hoping for more recent suggestions.


greg0ire
Dec 6, 11, 1:43 pm
I'm scheduled to fly to TLV from LAX in January. Chose BA in CW via LHR (obviously). It worked best for me thanks to the 2-4-1 promo. To each their own.

Thumper
Dec 6, 11, 2:12 pm
I'm scheduled to fly to TLV from LAX in January. Chose BA in CW via LHR (obviously). It worked best for me thanks to the 2-4-1 promo. To each their own.

Out of curiosity, what was the amount of taxes for flying through England?

greg0ire
Dec 6, 11, 2:31 pm
I think it was around $700 and change.

craz
Dec 9, 11, 10:07 am
I have a trip to TLV in late May. I was wondering which airline iss recommended. Should I travel to EWR or JFK? Or fly via MAD, LHR or BCN? Thank you for your anticipated suggestions and recommendations.

MAD and BCN will offer you only narrow body planes

I would check to see what your layover times will be if connecting in Europe, they can be very lengthy at times.

If youre flying in Y they all can be pretty bad, LHR will probably be the most expensive due to its taxes etc, while JFK or EWR will be the cheapest on the taxes and fees

Alpha Golf
Dec 9, 11, 11:41 am
I think it depends what you care most about. Airline/alliance? Aircraft type? fare/schedule? Service quality? First/business/coach? Miles?

If you give us some idea, might have some thoughts.

tondoleo
Dec 9, 11, 2:54 pm
My bride wants us to go J via rewards or payment. She would also like to stop in BCN. From MIA that means IB or AA. We are sapphire on OW via our AA platinum elite status. I do have a 241 on BA. However, I priced it out and would incur $ 2,100 in surcharges. Of course, it would mean suffering in 1st class via LHR.

Thanks for the help.

craz
Dec 11, 11, 8:40 am
My bride wants us to go J via rewards or payment. She would also like to stop in BCN. From MIA that means IB or AA. We are sapphire on OW via our AA platinum elite status. I do have a 241 on BA. However, I priced it out and would incur $ 2,100 in surcharges. Of course, it would mean suffering in 1st class via LHR.

Thanks for the help.

AA miles is good on LY (ElAl) as well although LYs J is no where like BAs

joshwex90
Dec 11, 11, 6:49 pm
If you go revenue, going via LHR won't be too expense (comparatively). It's on the miles booking that you get hit with the high surcharges. If you want to stick to OW, your choices are BA, IB, and AA. I'd go with BA on this one in CW (or F if you're willing :p). It definitely beats the other 2. (And that would be via LHR.)

While AA miles are good on LY C, that's not in the same league as CW (though some, specifically ebzed, differ (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/el-al-matmid/1253603-article-maariv-about-elh.html)). And AA miles can't book LY F.

Considering you have the AA miles and the OW status, it makes sense to book OW. The only reason to stay away from BA is because of the airport tax (mileage booking). Otherwise, go for BA. (Or do AA/IB on miles, but beware that IB will be a narrowbody as craz pointed. BA from LHR is always 763/772)

craz
Dec 11, 11, 9:16 pm
Considering you have the AA miles and the OW status, it makes sense to book OW. The only reason to stay away from BA is because of the airport tax (mileage booking). Otherwise, go for BA. (Or do AA/IB on miles, but beware that IB will be a narrowbody as craz pointed. BA from LHR is always 763/772)

Its even worse then that, its really a Coach seat with just no one sitting in the middle seat but nothing that resembles a Biz seat and thats for apx 5 hrs. For that alone its worth ponying up the $$ to fly via LHR,IMO

made that mistake once with AF out of CDG, learnt my lesson the hard way

joshwex90
Dec 12, 11, 3:22 am
Kitzur, go for BA (CW or even F) if going $$$. If going miles, I wonder if this would work: MIA-CDG-TLV, AA connecting to LY. While I don't know if that would work, that would give you AA C and LY C. While the seat is nothing to write home about, it's at least a C seat (and not a narrowbody Y seat with no one between you). And I'm a fan of LY's premium service.

Its even worse then that, its really a Coach seat with just no one sitting in the middle seat but nothing that resembles a Biz seat and thats for apx 5 hrs. For that alone its worth ponying up the $$ to fly via LHR,IMO

made that mistake once with AF out of CDG, learnt my lesson the hard way

Is it decent service?

tondoleo
Dec 20, 11, 3:22 pm
for all of the advice. I have enjoyed flying BA F. ;) With the 241 BA coupon it may be the best way to go. Now to find dates that will do the trick.

craz
Dec 21, 11, 9:46 am
for all of the advice. I have enjoyed flying BA F. ;) With the 241 BA coupon it may be the best way to go. Now to find dates that will do the trick.

I flew BA 1st many times to TLV at least when it was 100k and Diners Club ran its 2-1 promos on transferring pts into BA , the good Ole Days

But I would hate to see what that 1 1st Class would cost , and dont forget the fees and taxes on that free tkt isnt gonna be cheap either

tondoleo
Dec 22, 11, 7:56 am
I flew BA 1st many times to TLV at least when it was 100k and Diners Club ran its 2-1 promos on transferring pts into BA , the good Ole Days

But I would hate to see what that 1 1st Class would cost , and dont forget the fees and taxes on that free tkt isnt gonna be cheap either

The 241 is 225000 miles and $ 2,464.00 in taxes.

AA and partners is 460000 miles plus minimal taxes in J.

Cash on AA, IB, BA combo is about $ 7,500 in J.

Miles are less via EWR on CO.

We have SPG and MR points that we could move into CO or DL. However,
what is the best value in terms of comfort.

craz
Dec 22, 11, 8:10 pm
The 241 is 225000 miles and $ 2,464.00 in taxes.

AA and partners is 460000 miles plus minimal taxes in J.

Cash on AA, IB, BA combo is about $ 7,500 in J.

Miles are less via EWR on CO.

We have SPG and MR points that we could move into CO or DL. However,
what is the best value in terms of comfort.



I Loved BAs 1st and miss it, I dont know what LHs is like , I have flown LH in Biz and prefer COs BF over LHs C I just did LX in C and it was very nice. I think COs BF is ia good enough product for me and to an extent like it better then LXs C. LX is way better then LH in C imo.

So if I was faced with BA in F or CO in BF or LX in C (btw LX has F over the ond just not ZRH-TLV although the plane usually has the seats its just not sold as a 3 cabin flight) if it was the same $$ or # of miles Id go BA f , but since we know thats not the case Id save my $$ or miles and go CO BF or LX C or LX F to ZRH and then C to TLV it will cost the same as if it was F all the way

If I remember correctly the CO taxes etc for BF is apx $70 per person, so what would I do with the 225k BA , depending where you are based, use it for domestic flights if it makes sense, just got back froma PHL-MIA trip it cost me 15k BA and flew on AA So if I can score 2 BF COs @ 240k for both Id be :D since Id be saving some $2300 and I dont feel BA F is worth that $2300 over CO or LX in C. Im sure there will be those who disagree with me.

Then if you want to stay over in London it will make sense, but to simply connect UK taxes just went up again and if I wasnt going to be staying a few days Id do everything to avoid LHR, btw CDG and FRA are 2nd and 3rd in what they charge

Hey I foget even better then CO is US PHL-TLV that Envoy seat leaves CO in teh dust only the food and service on US isnt as good as COs but before I book CO I 1st check to see if I can score the US flight out of PHL

joshwex90
Dec 26, 11, 3:16 pm
I Loved BAs 1st and miss it, I dont know what LHs is like , I have flown LH in Biz and prefer COs BF over LHs C I just did LX in C and it was very nice. I think COs BF is just is a good enough product for me and to an extent like it better then LXs C. LX is way better then LH in C imo.

So if I was faced with BA in F or CO in BF or LX in C (btw LX has F over the ond just not ZRH-TLV although the plane usually has the seats its just not sold as a 3 cabin flight) if it was the same $$ or # of miles Id go BA f , but since we know thats not the case Id save my $$ or miles and go CO BF or LX C or LX F to ZRH and then C to TLV it will cost the same as if it was F all the way

If I remember correctly the CO taxes etc for BF is apx $70 per person, so what would I do with the 225k BA , depending where you are based, use it for domestic flights if it makes sense, just got back froma PHL-MIA trip it cost me 15k BA and flew on AA So if I can score 2 BF COs @ 240k for both Id be :D since Id be saving some $2300 and I dont feel BA F is worth that $2300 over CO or LX in C. Im sure there will be those who disagree with me.

Then if you want to stay over in London it will make sense, but to simply connect UK taxes just went up again and if I wasnt going to be staying a few days Id do everything to avoid LHR, btw CDG and FRA are 2nd and 3rd in what they charge

Hey I foget even better then CO is US PHL-TLV that Envoy seat leaves CO in teh dust only the food and service on US isnt as good as COs but before I book CO I 1st check to see if I can score the US flight out of PHL

Agreed 100%

Comments on LH: New F is quite good (on par with LX IMO). Problem is it's not on all planes, and I forget which have and which don't. LH C - angled seat, and not nearly as good as competitors. Their new C will be great it seems, though that won't be around until the 748i.

(Agreed that Envoy seat is better; I've seen soft product go both ways.)

Alpha Golf
Dec 30, 11, 5:45 pm
Just flew TLV-FRA-IAD in LH F. Old seats on first leg, new seats on second.

I thought it was spectacularly good.



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