Middle East - About time! Avis-Eldan at TLV, cars can be collected at terminal 3!

Avis and Eldan seemed to have managed to abolish the craze of having to shlep to terminal 1 to collect your car, they now can be collected at terminal 1 (the return is still in terminal 1).

We'll be saying goodbuy to Hertz and Sixt, it will be Avis and Eldan I use from now!

Same place they used to be?

its been this way for a few months already

go up 1 flight to where the desk is and checkin,at least for Avis you then turn around and head out as you used to, make the 1st Left and all the cars are parked smack in front of you or is on the way over

keep in mind you still Must return the car to Main Lot by the old terms

Same place they used to be?

I think it's one floor higher than it used to be.

I'm arriving TLV in the middle of the night on LH next week, and renting a car there. Not being familiar with the rental car situation there, does this mean that it would be a lot easier to rent from Avis than from Hertz? I'm Preferred with Avis and Gold with Hertz, but no real preference between the two, and the price is the same.

I'm arriving TLV in the middle of the night on LH next week, and renting a car there. Not being familiar with the rental car situation there, does this mean that it would be a lot easier to rent from Avis than from Hertz? I'm Preferred with Avis and Gold with Hertz, but no real preference between the two, and the price is the same.

Yes. Avis is within walking distance of the terminal, whereas Hertz requires a shuttle to Terminal 1

I'm arriving TLV in the middle of the night on LH next week, and renting a car there. Not being familiar with the rental car situation there, does this mean that it would be a lot easier to rent from Avis than from Hertz? I'm Preferred with Avis and Gold with Hertz, but no real preference between the two, and the price is the same.


Please do me a favour and check out Eldan.co.I'll for a quote as well. I always founf them to be cheapest in price, and never had a complaint.

Please do me a favour and check out Eldan.co.I'll for a quote as well. I always founf them to be cheapest in price, and never had a complaint.

Eldan.co.il, and in English (http://www.eldan.co.il/en/)

Why is that doing you a favor?

Please do me a favour and check out Eldan.co.I'll for a quote as well. I always founf them to be cheapest in price, and never had a complaint.

I know 3 people who have bookings between Jan & Feb and every time Eldan was at a min $100 more even with the Online discount over booking Avis via a TA for the same type car eg a 10 day res was $284ai with Avis and was $391 with Eldan ai

Every time I go (at least 3x a yr I always found Eldan to alot more then Avis via aTA as well)

I know 3 people who have bookings between Jan & Feb and every time Eldan was at a min $100 more even with the Online discount over booking Avis via a TA for the same type car eg a 10 day res was $284ai with Avis and was $391 with Eldan ai

Every time I go (at least 3x a yr I always found Eldan to alot more then Avis via aTA as well)

Speaking about that, my family needs to rent a car for 7 Pesach time. What's the best place to look in your opinion?

Speaking about that, my family needs to rent a car for 7 Pesach time. What's the best place to look in your opinion?

Dont know if the Pesach deals are out yet if there will be any, sort of ike booking for next Succos

But 1 could always reserve now and check back later, just use any TA in the US that books directly with Avis by calling up rather then via a computer

Waiting to hear back from afriend about the agent they just used who said they were sending them a voucher to cover the $27 airport tax that was needed in order to beat the same rate they got from another agent. Problem with this is its a 1 time thing, as that other agent wont get them a rate every time going forward so that wont be able any longer to tell Agent 2 OK I have such a rate can you beat it, they dont know that yet but they will still end up with a rate way cheaper then Eldan or Avis.com

I'm arriving TLV in the middle of the night on LH next week, and renting a car there. Not being familiar with the rental car situation there, does this mean that it would be a lot easier to rent from Avis than from Hertz? I'm Preferred with Avis and Gold with Hertz, but no real preference between the two, and the price is the same.

Be sure to take ALL insurance provided and do not decline any. Also do a careful inspection of car prior to leaving lot and record any damage. Driving is a challenge.

Be sure to take ALL insurance provided and do not decline any. Also do a careful inspection of car prior to leaving lot and record any damage. Driving is a challenge.

In the 100 or so times Ive rented @ TLV Ive Never taken anything besides the Mandatory 3rd party Liability, no matter which company I rented with

My CDW is covered via my Citi ThankYou World MC, hope you area ware that they have several CDWs they sell and only the most expensive has a No deductable then otehrs I believe are $1000 and $500

on 1 rental thsi guy decided to make an illegal U-turn on Rehov Asa my whole front end was gone, car still was driveable, switched cars the next day and my CDW paid them for it.This past Oct 1 of my rear tail lamps was smashed , cost $203 was cahregd at the return to my CC and my CCs CDW sent me a check for $230. I caled and spoke with the adjustor from the CC but he insisted he knew what he was doing and that was based on the amount of Sheks Avis put down and not what my CC charged in $$

That said its not Ins but simply some gimicks to inflate the end price of the rental

I'm arriving TLV in the middle of the night on LH next week, and renting a car there. Not being familiar with the rental car situation there, does this mean that it would be a lot easier to rent from Avis than from Hertz? I'm Preferred with Avis and Gold with Hertz, but no real preference between the two, and the price is the same.

Yes Avis will be 100% easier to get the car from then Hertz. With HZ you would need to 1st find their shuttle van and go with them to other side of the airport.

With Avis you go up 1 level with the elevators that are passed the Info booth in the Arrivals hall and they will take care of everything and you will go out with the free baggage cart take the moving sidewalk and turn Left when it ends (dont get on the 2nd one!)

All returns are to the other Lot where HZ has their rentals begin from, Orange signs all around pointing the way

You need to either have this coverage through your credit card as you suggest or take the CDW if you don't have a MC since I elieve this is not offered on Visa Others may not have the 100 rentals you have. This is first time as posted. We've learned the hard way as well on our many tlv rentals and just wanted to pass along learnings.

You need to either have this coverage through your credit card as you suggest or take the CDW if you don't have a MC since I elieve this is not offered on Visa Others may not have the 100 rentals you have. This is first time as posted. We've learned the hard way as well on our many tlv rentals and just wanted to pass along learnings.

Many credit cards cover this around the world. I disagree that you need every single coverage offered. I've driven in Israel numerous times without a problem. Are drivers here insane? Sure. But you don't need every coverage

Everyone should decide their own risk reward balance. We like the piece of mind and it has paid off for us over many years and many miles of driving.

In the 100 or so times Ive rented @ TLV Ive Never taken anything besides the Mandatory 3rd party Liability, no matter which company I rented with

My CDW is covered via my Citi ThankYou World MC, hope you area ware that they have several CDWs they sell and only the most expensive has a No deductable then otehrs I believe are $1000 and $500


What is the difference between CDW and the Mandatory 3rd party Liability?

Why is it that if I take CDW with the car retnal company, Im not offered or required to take the "Mandatory" 3rd party liability..

I sort've just feel like they just find any way to charge for the insurance no matter what...

What is the difference between CDW and the Mandatory 3rd party Liability?

Why is it that if I take CDW with the car retnal company, Im not offered or required to take the "Mandatory" 3rd party liability..

I sort've just feel like they just find any way to charge for the insurance no matter what...

let me explain it this way , there are 2 Mandatory Items that if you dont have you wont be given the keys to a car; 1-CDW (this need not be purchased if you have a CC currently only a World MC, that covers it)

2- 3rd party liability AFAIK the only way to have this coverage is by purchasing it from the car rental company itself

so w/o a World MC (btw not all cover Israel best to call 1-800-MC-ASSIST and ask if yours does, generally those that are Eilte or Premeir WMC wont if a consumer card) a person will need to purcahse both CDW and 3rd party liability

those with a WMC that covers CDW need only purchase the 3rd party liability

also although it costs more if you purchase both its at a discount amount eg CDW is $8 a day and 3rd is $14, buying both maybe say $17 a day, but the CDW will have a deductable amount to it, so a person is best not purchasing the CDW if they can get away without doing so. The WMC has no deductable to it

Till recently I used a Citi AA WMC but had to pay the 3% ForEx fees even thou it was in USD. Now my City TY MC has no ForEx fees and is a WMC and the $125 annual fee I have waviered due to my banking level at Citi :D But even the 3% ForEx was alot cheaper then what I would have paid for their CDW with a deductable no less, so I was a sort of :mad::) camper

1 last thing no car company will allow you to rent with say the Citi AA and then when you return it w/o any damages change it to say an Amex w/o the CDW coverage. You can switch but they will charge you for their CDW even thou there was no damage to the car. I did that switch for yrs, it saved me that 3% but havent done it in the past close to 2 yrs when they started to implement their CDW if the CC doesnt have it no matter when you used the CC

let me explain it this way , there are 2 Mandatory Items that if you dont have you wont be given the keys to a car; 1-CDW (this need not be purchased if you have a CC currently only a World MC, that covers it)

2- 3rd party liability AFAIK the only way to have this coverage is by purchasing it from the car rental company itself

so w/o a World MC (btw not all cover Israel best to call 1-800-MC-ASSIST and ask if yours does, generally those that are Eilte or Premeir WMC wont if a consumer card) a person will need to purcahse both CDW and 3rd party liability

those with a WMC that covers CDW need only purchase the 3rd party liability

also although it costs more if you purchase both its at a discount amount eg CDW is $8 a day and 3rd is $14, buying both maybe say $17 a day, but the CDW will have a deductable amount to it, so a person is best not purchasing the CDW if they can get away without doing so. The WMC has no deductable to it

Till recently I used a Citi AA WMC but had to pay the 3% ForEx fees even thou it was in USD. Now my City TY MC has no ForEx fees and is a WMC and the $125 annual fee I have waviered due to my banking level at Citi :D But even the 3% ForEx was alot cheaper then what I would have paid for their CDW with a deductable no less, so I was a sort of :mad::) camper

1 last thing no car company will allow you to rent with say the Citi AA and then when you return it w/o any damages change it to say an Amex w/o the CDW coverage. You can switch but they will charge you for their CDW even thou there was no damage to the car. I did that switch for yrs, it saved me that 3% but havent done it in the past close to 2 yrs when they started to implement their CDW if the CC doesnt have it no matter when you used the CC

There are some Visas that will cover the CDW as well in Israel.

What I don't get is if the 3rd party liability is mandatory AND you need to buy it from the company, why isn't it included in the rental itself?

There are some Visas that will cover the CDW as well in Israel.

What I don't get is if the 3rd party liability is mandatory AND you need to
buy it from the company, why isn't it included in the rental itself?

1- this way they dont pay commissions to the TAs

2- tax purposes?

3- maybe in fact its not the car rental company that is picking up the risk

4- its the same way in Costa Rica

let me explain it this way , there are 2 Mandatory Items that if you dont have you wont be given the keys to a car; 1-CDW (this need not be purchased if you have a CC currently only a World MC, that covers it)


Well, my last rental with Thrifty, (or whatever their head office calls them..something like alfafa or albah or something) charged me the CDW.
This was after we went through the whole I have credit-card-coverage-talk and they called to verify, and they said they wouldnt charge... but they did (this whole process took an hour, they wore me down, i just wanted to get out) but that was the only insurance charge.

My last rental with Eldan, they charged me the 3rd party mandatory insurance, but not the cdw (my canadian visa & amex cards both have coverage in Israel).
But it was never I needed both. Eldan was fine charging me for the cdw only initially.

I cant recall my experiences with Hertz or Avis (I've never heard anything good about Budget).

Well, my last rental with Thrifty, (or whatever their head office calls them..something like alfafa or albah or something) charged me the CDW.
This was after we went through the whole I have credit-card-coverage-talk and they called to verify, and they said they wouldnt charge... but they did (this whole process took an hour, they wore me down, i just wanted to get out) but that was the only insurance charge.

My last rental with Eldan, they charged me the 3rd party mandatory insurance, but not the cdw (my canadian visa & amex cards both have coverage in Israel).
But it was never I needed both. Eldan was fine charging me for the cdw only initially.

I cant recall my experiences with Hertz or Avis (I've never heard anything good about Budget).

I dont know of any US Visa CC that covers the CDW in Israel, same with Amex could be the Canadian CCs do, but AFAIK only select WMCs issued in the US cover theh CDW

As for Thrifty if you checked off Decline and still have your original contracts Id Dispute with your CC are you sre it wasnt the 3rd party lia they charged you? CDW is usually cheaper then the 3rd party so you might have saved yourself some money. I dont know of a single case where a person was given and allowed to drive off with a rental car w/o having taken the 3rd Party Lia I believe its mandatory from the Govt which is the case in a number of other Country as well.

now before actually Disputing it find out 1st what would happen if they should have charged you for 1 Ins and didnt and charged you for another, if the car has been returned can they still go back and charge you for the 3rd party if Yes leave everything as is you saved some $$, if they cant then Dispute the CDW,IMO

I dont know of any US Visa CC that covers the CDW in Israel, same with Amex could be the Canadian CCs do, but AFAIK only select WMCs issued in the US cover theh CDW

As for Thrifty if you checked off Decline and still have your original contracts Id Dispute with your CC are you sre it wasnt the 3rd party lia they charged you? CDW is usually cheaper then the 3rd party so you might have saved yourself some money. I dont know of a single case where a person was given and allowed to drive off with a rental car w/o having taken the 3rd Party Lia I believe its mandatory from the Govt which is the case in a number of other Country as well.

now before actually Disputing it find out 1st what would happen if they should have charged you for 1 Ins and didnt and charged you for another, if the car has been returned can they still go back and charge you for the 3rd party if Yes leave everything as is you saved some $$, if they cant then Dispute the CDW,IMO

While I haven't received the paperwork yet, and looking online has revealed nothing, I had heard that the Explorer card had CDW coverage even in Israel. Is that not the case?

I dont know of any US Visa CC that covers the CDW in Israel, same with Amex could be the Canadian CCs do, but AFAIK only select WMCs issued in the US cover theh CDW

Amex in Canada uses the same insurer as Visa here in Canada, where as in the US, I think Amex is also an insurance company so it would work differently.

now before actually Disputing it find out 1st what would happen if they should have charged you for 1 Ins and didnt and charged you for another, if the car has been returned can they still go back and charge you for the 3rd party if Yes leave everything as is you saved some $$, if they cant then Dispute the CDW,IMO

To be honest, the experience was a poor one. It took an hour to get out of the office, despite having done the reservation months in advance..but the rate was $18- or $19 a day/with insurance included in that price and the car was good. Perhaps they waved a fee for making me wait so long. I could probably dispute the issue till im blue in the face, and not get anywhere.

Amex in Canada uses the same insurer as Visa here in Canada, where as in the US, I think Amex is also an insurance company so it would work differently.



To be honest, the experience was a poor one. It took an hour to get out of the office, despite having done the reservation months in advance..but the rate was $18- or $19 a day/with insurance included in that price and the car was good. Perhaps they waved a fee for making me wait so long. I could probably dispute the issue till im blue in the face, and not get anywhere.

Not at all! If you still have the original contract and you initaled the Decline box for CDW then theres nothing they can do and your CC will refund it to you. The problem might be if you signed to accept the 3rd Party and they didnt charge that. Thats why I suggested to 1st speak and ask what the case would be if they charged for what you declined and didnt charge for what you accepted

if you feel you got a good deal anyway then what was the pt of the post and complaining that they charged for something that they shouldnt have?

While I haven't received the paperwork yet, and looking online has revealed nothing, I had heard that the Explorer card had CDW coverage even in Israel. Is that not the case?

I believe that Chases CCs dont have the coverage except for the Business card. And till now Chase CO CCs were WMC. AFAIK all Visa CCs didnt have the coverage for Israel, that doesnt mean it cant chage just that Im not aware of any that do