Wyndham Rewards - Winter '11 "Gift Me" Promo: 1k per booking & 6.5k every other stay (NA & EU Variants)




via amtrak
Nov 17, 11, 8:48 am
There's a new Wyndham promotion starting today and running until Feb. 1, 2012: https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=W11PROMO&variant=

You get 1,000 points per online booking. You also get 6,500 points or 1,000 miles for every second stay. As points convert to miles at a rate of 2.5 points per mile, the point option is a better deal.


travelkid
Nov 17, 11, 10:19 am
Once again there is a different EU promo;
https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=W11PROMO&vanityUrl=treats&variant=uk

10/20/30k after 2/4/6 stays, but no booking/CC bonus. Still better though.

Best prices?

pogonation
Nov 17, 11, 11:37 am
LINK HERE (https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=W11PROMO&vanityUrl=treats&variant=uk)

Stays must be between 17NOV and 01FEB at all properties except Super8 China properties.

Almost the same as the summer promo except this time its 10k instead of 15k and there is a max of 30k instead of 60k. Still happy with this promo ^


travelkid
Nov 17, 11, 3:25 pm
Already posted here;

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wyndham-rewards/1281415-winter-gift-me-promotion-1-000-points-per-booing-6-500-points-every-other-stay.html

Suggesting merge.

sdsearch
Nov 17, 11, 7:55 pm
There's a new Wyndham promotion starting today and running until Feb. 1, 2012: https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=W11PROMO&variant=

You get 1,000 points per online booking. You also get 6,500 points or 1,000 miles for every second stay. As points convert to miles at a rate of 2.5 points per mile, the point option is a better deal.
No, it's not every second stay, unfortunately. It's a capped as usual: Only on your 2nd, 4th, and 6th stay. And the booking (not booing :) ) bonus is only applicable on your first 3 stays.

This is getting to be a pattern. The (North American) promo that just ended was double miles or points on your first 3 stays, and a $20 gift card after your 2nd, 4th, and 6th stays. The nature of that promo made me only want to stay 4 times, not 6.

At least this promo gives something signficant on the 6th stay (the 6500 points excites me much more than a $20 gift card!), so I wlll stay 6 times, not just 4, during this promo.

satori
Nov 18, 11, 8:32 am
The confusing part to me for the North American promotion is the T&C specifically mentions:

"Members can earn either 6,500 Wyndham Rewards points, 1,000 airline miles or 1,000 rail points when they complete their 2nd qualified stay, 4th qualified stay and 6th qualified stay, with a maximum of 3 rooms per stay."

These terms sound to me like the bonus can be earned three times per stay for a total 9 bonuses of 6,500 points if 2nd, 4th and 6th stay is three rooms.

That is potentially over 60,000 bonus points with 12 room nights if this is actually how the promo works.
Assume $75 per night.

Stay 1 (1 room night) = 750 points +1,000 booking bonus = 1,750 points.

Stay 2 (3 room nights) = 3 x 6,500 bonus points? + 2,250 points + 1,000 booking bonus = 22,750 points.

Stay 3 (1 room night) = 750 points +1,000 booking bonus = 1,750 points.

Stay 4 (3 room nights) = 3 x 6,500 bonus points? + 2,250 points = 21,750 points.

Stay 5 (1 room night) = 750 points = 750 points.

Stay 6 (3 room nights) = 3 x 6,500 bonus points? + 2,250 points = 21,750 points.

70,500 Wyndham Rewards points for $900.

If bonus applies to just one room, then possible to have 6 room nights and total points is about 27,000 Wyndham Rewards points for $450.

Looks like a good deal.


I'll need clarification from Wyndham Rewards on the three rooms term.

sdsearch
Nov 18, 11, 11:40 am
70,500 Wyndham Rewards points for $900.

If bonus applies to just one room, then possible to have 6 room nights and total points is about 27,000 Wyndham Rewards points for $450.

Looks like a good deal.
I'd say it' sonly a good deal if you actually need all these rooms. While in theory (per the WR credit card app hype) 6000 points is enough for a "free night", in reality, you need much more than that, even for most cheap suburban WR motels. And I've found WR properties internationally that are $200ish+/night and need 25k points/night.

But $450 for 27k points therefore seems like way overpayment, if you're not getting the value out of the rooms as a side benefit. IOTW, if you actually needed those rooms anyway, and would have paid something equvalent at another hotel anyway, then steering it toward WR does sound like a good deal. But unnecessarily booking 3 rooms when you really only need 1, I'm not sure whether that's a good deal at all (even if possible).

I suggest you look at redemption costs at properties you might want to redeem at before you assume that paying this much money for rooms you don't need is really a good return value in the points you get.

In my case, I do need one cheap suburban room a night several nights most weeks anyway, so if I can get 6500 bonus points from WR for steering a $60/night stay to them instead of to, say, Choice (while it has no promo at all for at least the first part of this period), then that's great. But that's because to me it's 2700 points for $0 incremental cost, not for $450 or even $350.

But if for you that's $450 incremental cost (because you didn't need the stay at all), I think it's a lousy deal.

And if you did need the stay, I think you should redo the math as incremental costs, over what (cheaper?) place you would have stayed at otherwise, to calculate the true cost/benefit of this promo for you.

satori
Nov 19, 11, 7:32 am
@sdsearch - I wouldn't recommend booking three rooms if you don't need them.

I'm thinking about people who have family needing rooms for Thanksgiving or Christmas holidays. Booking three rooms and keeping family members off the living room couches and crowding out the bathrooms sounds good to me.

I did contact Wyndham Rewards representative and I heard back "each room counts as a stay" indicating multiple rooms earn multiple bonuses.

The brief wording of the reply does not convince me my question was completely understood. I am still not convinced the bonus can be earned multiple times for multiple rooms on the 2nd, 4th and 6th stays, since that would be unusual for a promotion, but sounds great if true.

Personally I find Wyndham points one of the most valuable currencies to have for US travel. There are very few towns where you won't find a Wyndham brand hotel and booking last second is no hassle.

I have booked Wyndham hotel stays using points while sitting in the lobby of the hotel and walked over to the desk for the room key.

burmans
Nov 23, 11, 3:39 pm
Once again there is a different EU promo;
https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=W11PROMO&vanityUrl=treats&variant=uk

10/20/30k after 2/4/6 stays, but no booking/CC bonus. Still better though.

Best prices?
Can't locate it now but I thought when browsing the site I saw a 100 point offer for booking online, i.e. it's independent of having registered for the promo?

singlemalt
Nov 25, 11, 1:37 pm
The confusing part to me for the North American promotion is the T&C specifically mentions:

"Members can earn either 6,500 Wyndham Rewards points, 1,000 airline miles or 1,000 rail points when they complete their 2nd qualified stay, 4th qualified stay and 6th qualified stay, with a maximum of 3 rooms per stay."

These terms sound to me like the bonus can be earned three times per stay for a total 9 bonuses of 6,500 points if 2nd, 4th and 6th stay is three rooms.

That is potentially over 60,000 bonus points with 12 room nights if this is actually how the promo works...

If bonus applies to just one room, then possible to have 6 room nights and total points is about 27,000 Wyndham Rewards points for $450.

Looks like a good deal.

I'll need clarification from Wyndham Rewards on the three rooms term.It appears that it's not as you hoped. I booked eight rooms at one hotel, six at another for 11/22. I received points for three rooms at each hotel (as usual), and only one bonus of 6,500.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's better than no bonus at all.

sdsearch
Nov 26, 11, 11:08 am
Personally I find Wyndham points one of the most valuable currencies to have for US travel. There are very few towns where you won't find a Wyndham brand hotel and booking last second is no hassle.
Hm, I wouldn't tend to use them for US travel, given that most towns where you find a WyndhamRewards brand hotel you also find a Choice Privileges brand hotel, but Choice Privileges points are way easier to accumulate on cheap suburban stays than WyndhamRewards points are. WyndhamRewards tends to severely cap the few promos they run each year (and sometimes the promos have been only for ailrline miles, not for points!), while Choice routinely runs promos like 4x points or stay 2 get 8000 that are uncapped for elites in the top 2 tiers. (WyndhamRewards can't do that since they don't have an elite status program.) So if I stay a lot at Choice hotels where they're cheap on money, I earn almost more points than I know what do with. Not so much for WyndhamRewards (I max out all their promos and still have relatively few points to show for it). Therefore, even if I find a town where there's a WyndhamRewards hotel but no Choice Privileges hotel, if the price isn't bad, I'll definitely use it to earn, rather than burn, WyndhamRewads points.

I find WyndhamRewards points much more useful when traveling to overseas places (like some towns in Argenitna) where WR is the only chain property found, and all the hotels there (with good reviews, at least) are expensive. It takes me a long time to save up enough WR points for multi-night stays in places like that were WR points really pay off, so I wouldn't want to waste them on places in the US where I can either earn WR points by paying cheap rates or burn some other points that I can replenish much eaiser.

burmans
Nov 26, 11, 9:59 pm
Can't locate it now but I thought when browsing the site I saw a 100 point offer for booking online, i.e. it's independent of having registered for the promo?
That should be 1000 point, not 100

louie-m
Nov 27, 11, 3:53 am
Can't locate it now but I thought when browsing the site I saw a 1000 point offer for booking online, i.e. it's independent of having registered for the promo?

This (https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=POPTINFALL2011&vanityUrl=1000&variant=us)? Should be in your promotion tracker.

burmans
Nov 27, 11, 8:56 pm
This (https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/promoReg.action?promoRuleCode=POPTINFALL2011&vanityUrl=1000&variant=us)? Should be in your promotion tracker.
That's the one. So what I was thinking is you could sign up to the EUR site but then change your preferences once signed up so as to get the 1000 point online booking bonus?

hautecouTours
Dec 8, 11, 10:43 am
Thanks, OP. I had a 6nt trip to Miami/FTL planned so I mattress hopped my way and netted about 22,500 points for a trip I was doing anyway. I haven't seen the 1,000 bonus points per booking (BAR) but I'll be patient a little while longer.

At what point shall I call customer service to inquire about those points?

janetdoe
Dec 9, 11, 12:57 pm
I'm thinking about people who have family needing rooms for Thanksgiving or Christmas holidays. Booking three rooms and keeping family members off the living room couches and crowding out the bathrooms sounds good to me.

I did contact Wyndham Rewards representative and I heard back "each room counts as a stay" indicating multiple rooms earn multiple bonuses.

The brief wording of the reply does not convince me my question was completely understood. I am still not convinced the bonus can be earned multiple times for multiple rooms on the 2nd, 4th and 6th stays, since that would be unusual for a promotion, but sounds great if true.

It appears that it's not as you hoped. I booked eight rooms at one hotel, six at another for 11/22. I received points for three rooms at each hotel (as usual), and only one bonus of 6,500.

Has anyone has any experience where they book multiple rooms on different dates? I'm wondering if singlemalt's issue was because all the stays were on a single night. For example
Stay 1: 3 nights at hotel A on Friday
Stay 2: 3 nights at hotel A on Sunday
-or-
Stay 1: 3 nights at hotel A on Friday
Stay 2: 3 nights at hotel B on Saturday

And finally, can you get 9 bonuses if you book 3 rooms per night x 6 stays? Or is the promo capped at 3 6500-point bonuses?

singlemalt
Dec 12, 11, 5:01 pm
Has anyone has any experience where they book multiple rooms on different dates? I'm wondering if singlemalt's issue was because all the stays were on a single night. For example
Stay 1: 3 nights at hotel A on Friday
Stay 2: 3 nights at hotel A on Sunday
-or-
Stay 1: 3 nights at hotel A on Friday
Stay 2: 3 nights at hotel B on Saturday

And finally, can you get 9 bonuses if you book 3 rooms per night x 6 stays? Or is the promo capped at 3 6500-point bonuses?Three bonuses are all I got - I've booked a number of rooms on a couple of different dates since my last post.

rustyr
Dec 14, 11, 9:30 am
I'm assuming once u have maxed on bonus pts after your 6th stay, u can't change your earning preference to miles and do the promo all over again, right? The only way you can earn bonus pts and miles is change your earning preference after a threshold bonus.

Shimon
Dec 28, 11, 11:53 am
Got signed up for the wrong region. Don't know why. Anyway to fix this?

sdsearch
Dec 28, 11, 3:44 pm
I'm assuming once u have maxed on bonus pts after your 6th stay, u can't change your earning preference to miles and do the promo all over again, right? The only way you can earn bonus pts and miles is change your earning preference after a threshold bonus.
I don't understand the question. You can't earn "bonus pts and miles" on the same stays at all.

You can change your preference at any time, though. So you may be able to mix earning bonus points on your 2nd stay and bonus miles on your 4th stay and bonus points on your 6th stay. Maybe, I'm not sure.

But I don't understand why. With no Grand Slam or equivalent going on right now AFAIK, what's the benefit? The bonus for miles is 1000 miles every other stay. The bonus for points is 6500 points every other stay. But 8000 points (not that much more than 6500) converts to 3200 miles. So it seems to me you get way more miles by getting the points bonus and then converting to miles, than by going for the miles bonus.

At any rate, since it's only one promo, with multiple earning choices, no you can't repeat it for a second set of 6 stays.

GoldCircle
Dec 29, 11, 5:02 pm
Got signed up for the wrong region. Don't know why. Anyway to fix this?

No you didn't. You just got a generic email. You'll be awarded according to your actual region of address.

bryanwallace
Jan 23, 12, 12:12 am
ive been looking at the t and cs-and knights inn etc are all included in this arent they?
are there any rates which dont qualify?
dont seem to be..

it says at a qualifying rate-but how do you know if the rate qualifies or not?
i need to stay in atlantic city and was going to take a few nights at the knights there..

broms
Jan 23, 12, 12:22 am
Just thought I'd make a quick note that this promotion has been extended in N.A. until March 5th, 2012. I scanned the thread quickly and didn't see this info yet - even more chances to earn (if you haven't already)!

sdsearch
Jan 23, 12, 10:28 am
Just thought I'd make a quick note that this promotion has been extended in N.A. until March 5th, 2012. I scanned the thread quickly and didn't see this info yet - even more chances to earn (if you haven't already)!
The date has been extended, but if you've already done all 6 stays that does nothing for you (except extend the time before any other promo that you could use would start).

It's ok that they extended it (I presume it'll help some people), but it's annoying that they sent me an email trumpeting this, when last week I did my last of the 6 stays and my thrid and last 6500 bonus points already posted.

Wyndham Rewards
Jan 24, 12, 7:33 am
ive been looking at the t and cs-and knights inn etc are all included in this arent they?
are there any rates which dont qualify?
dont seem to be..

it says at a qualifying rate-but how do you know if the rate qualifies or not?
i need to stay in atlantic city and was going to take a few nights at the knights there..

Hello, the definition of a qualified rate is contained within the overall program T&C - https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/terms.action?variant=#PTP_061205_17161728_O1BSL
See below for an excerpt from the link noted...

Qualifying Rates include all rates except for the following: employee/family, travel agent, group, wholesale, package transportation/crew and other special contract rates, or free night stays. Most rates available through tour operators and travel websites (excluding Wyndham Rewards.com and the Participating Hotel Chain websites) such as Priceline, Hotwire, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz are wholesale rates and therefore do not qualify to earn Wyndham Rewards points, airline miles or rail points. Qualifying Rates for Participating Wyndham Hotels and Resorts, Wingate by Wyndham, and Hawthorn Suites by Wyndham Properties include all rates except for the following: employee/family, travel agent, wholesale, package transportation/crew and other special contract rates, or free night stays. Most rates available through tour operators and travel websites (excluding Wyndham Rewards.com and the Participating Hotel Chain websites) such as Priceline, Hotwire, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz are wholesale rates and therefore do not qualify to earn Wyndham Rewards points, airline miles or rail points. Non-qualifying rates which are specific to Participating WH&R Properties include Wyndham Vacations inventory booked through Expedia which includes another travel component such as airfare or car rental.

clublounger
Jan 24, 12, 9:55 am
This extension works very well for me, as I've got the opportunity to book Wyndham Rewards properties in February. Thanks W/R !

Funny - I learned about the extension here on Flyertalk, and not through an email from Wyndham. I am registered to receive correspondence from W/R.

aloha

LordLoungeDragon
Jan 24, 12, 6:43 pm
Hello, the definition of a qualified rate is contained within the overall program T&C - https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/terms.action?variant=#PTP_061205_17161728_O1BSL
See below for an excerpt from the link noted...

Qualifying Rates include all rates except for the following: employee/family, travel agent, group, wholesale, package transportation/crew and other special contract rates, or free night stays. Most rates available through tour operators and travel websites (excluding Wyndham Rewards.com and the Participating Hotel Chain websites) such as Priceline, Hotwire, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz are wholesale rates and therefore do not qualify to earn Wyndham Rewards points, airline miles or rail points. Qualifying Rates for Participating Wyndham Hotels and Resorts, Wingate by Wyndham, and Hawthorn Suites by Wyndham Properties include all rates except for the following: employee/family, travel agent, wholesale, package transportation/crew and other special contract rates, or free night stays. Most rates available through tour operators and travel websites (excluding Wyndham Rewards.com and the Participating Hotel Chain websites) such as Priceline, Hotwire, Expedia, Travelocity, and Orbitz are wholesale rates and therefore do not qualify to earn Wyndham Rewards points, airline miles or rail points. Non-qualifying rates which are specific to Participating WH&R Properties include Wyndham Vacations inventory booked through Expedia which includes another travel component such as airfare or car rental.


WR, you seem to have an extended knowledge about Wyndham hotels. Can you please tell me which are the hotels with the lowest rates? Thank you.

bryanwallace
Jan 24, 12, 11:48 pm
[QUOTE=Wyndham Rewards;17876713]Hello, the definition of a qualified rate is contained within the overall program T&C - https://www.wyndhamrewards.com/trec/consumer/terms.action?variant=#PTP_061205_17161728_O1BSL
See below for an excerpt from the link noted...

thanks for the very swift reply it is much appreciated.
can i ask one more thing?
i know it was touched on above ,but Im not sure of the final answer.
if i book 3 rooms for 3people do they all get points on the same reservation?
(or do the reservations need to be made separately)
thanks

sdsearch
Jan 25, 12, 12:42 pm
WR, you seem to have an extended knowledge about Wyndham hotels. Can you please tell me which are the hotels with the lowest rates? Thank you.
WR works for WyndhamRewards. It's sort of like customer service but on FlyerTalk instead of over the phone.

But I doublt WR can tell you where the cheapest hotels are without you specifying a location and date. And if you specified that, you could figure it out yourself from an online search, no? :confused:

Wyndham Rewards
Feb 2, 12, 10:20 am
WR, you seem to have an extended knowledge about Wyndham hotels. Can you please tell me which are the hotels with the lowest rates? Thank you.

Hello, the best route would be to conduct an online search on our web site (www.wyndhamrewards.com) so you can select the location & amenities that best suite you. Remember, we do have a Best Rate Guarantee.
thanks!

jbvideo
Feb 2, 12, 9:39 pm
thanks for the very swift reply it is much appreciated.
can i ask one more thing?
i know it was touched on above ,but Im not sure of the final answer.
if i book 3 rooms for 3people do they all get points on the same reservation?
(or do the reservations need to be made separately)
thanks[/QUOTE]

Not sure if this is what you are trying to get an answer on.
I have had only 1 stay. MY 2nd will have 2 rooms booked at the same property under the same reservation, for the same 2 nights.

Called, and was told that one of my rooms during my upcoming stay will qualify as my 2nd stay and that the other room will be considered as my 3rd stay. This can include up to 3 rooms.

Hope that helps

Wyndham Rewards 2
Feb 6, 12, 8:02 am
If the rooms post to your account separately, then it will count as two stays.

In the reservation you mention below, do the rooms have the same confirmation number? If they do, the rooms can post as one transaction and then it will count as 1 stay.

Hope that helps.

thanks for the very swift reply it is much appreciated.
can i ask one more thing?
i know it was touched on above ,but Im not sure of the final answer.
if i book 3 rooms for 3people do they all get points on the same reservation?
(or do the reservations need to be made separately)
thanks

Not sure if this is what you are trying to get an answer on.
I have had only 1 stay. MY 2nd will have 2 rooms booked at the same property under the same reservation, for the same 2 nights.

Called, and was told that one of my rooms during my upcoming stay will qualify as my 2nd stay and that the other room will be considered as my 3rd stay. This can include up to 3 rooms.

Hope that helps[/QUOTE]



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