oneworld - Round the world fares: Rule violation enforcement.




rpninfinite
Nov 3, 11, 12:11 pm
I am aware that as per rules (most/all?) RTW tickets need to start and end in the same nation. Nevertheless what would happen if I did buy and configure an itenary and then just stop travelling after a certain partial number of sectors. Agreed this violated the terms but what exactly does the alliance end up doing to enforce this if the trip was already prepaid? (apologies if this question is deemed unethical)

In particular I was thinking of doing a trip starting in Asia and then cover the US and Europe and just stop rather than returning to my starting point in Asia.

As an aside, the RTW planning tool (link below) shows a coach fare of only $1550 originating in Seychelles (SEZ).

Sounds too good to be true! Is it?

http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/FlyFrom/Seychelles%20(SEZ)


MiamiPrep
Nov 4, 11, 8:57 pm
You must complete travel within 1-year of the 1st flight. If your travel plans change & you are unable to finish the remaining segments before the year is up.... I would think you could just drop the ticket.

For some RTW's you DON'T have to end in country of origin, just continent of origin.

skipaway
Nov 4, 11, 10:20 pm
As an aside, the RTW planning tool (link below) shows a coach fare of only $1550 originating in Seychelles (SEZ).

Sounds too good to be true! Is it?

http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/FlyFrom/Seychelles%20(SEZ)

I saw that, too. Can't be right. Just don't call and ask--if you're interested try and book it. Maybe it is a mistake they will go with.


Wasabi Tofu
Nov 5, 11, 12:03 am
There is No Onewolrd flight to SEZ.

For partially used ticket, see canncellations and Refunds section.


(3) For partially used transportation the refund if any will be the difference between the fare paid and the fare for the transportation used less the fee specified in (1) above.

tentativetraveller
Nov 5, 11, 3:55 am
As an aside, the RTW planning tool (link below) shows a coach fare of only $1550 originating in Seychelles (SEZ).

Sounds too good to be true! Is it?

http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/FlyFrom/Seychelles%20(SEZ)

I'm looking at business and first rtw flights.

xONEy doesn't seem to be bookable at least not with the online tool. Does anyone know about the xGLOByz fares?

With those prices even the SKY fares are interesting... how do you book those without calling anyone?

rpninfinite
Nov 5, 11, 7:27 am
There is No Onewolrd flight to SEZ.

Would it do to do a (self funded) leg from SEZ to wherever and just get it added to the mileage. The RTW tickets do allow that for land-legs, right?

For partially used ticket, see canncellations and Refunds section.


Thanks! I wasn't interested in getting any money back. Just was wondering if they would come after me to penalize. Analogy is if I bought a return fare and didn't use the return leg. I hear that is frowned upon.

Wasabi Tofu
Nov 5, 11, 7:47 am
Would it do to do a (self funded) leg from SEZ to wherever and just get it added to the mileage. The RTW tickets do allow that for land-legs, right?


I don't think landsegment of first segment permitted.
If that is possible, whole origin country based price structure is almost meaningless.
For example, AMM//LHR-JFK-NRT-LHR-AMM provides cheaper ex-AMM fare for LHR based traveller without touching AMM.

BTW, xONEx is not a mileage based product.


Thanks! I wasn't interested in getting any money back. Just was wondering if they would come after me to penalize. Analogy is if I bought a return fare and didn't use the return leg. I hear that is frowned upon.

IMHO, this rule says partially used ticket is permitted, but no refund in many cases practically.
You may ask refund for your partially used ticket, a ticketing agent calculates and says 'Sorry, no refund value."

Gardyloo
Nov 5, 11, 9:10 am
As an aside, the RTW planning tool (link below) shows a coach fare of only $1550 originating in Seychelles (SEZ).

Sounds too good to be true! Is it?

http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/FlyFrom/Seychelles%20(SEZ)As has been pointed out in several other places, there is no currently valid Oneworld fare published from SEZ. The fares quoted are very old and obsolete; they simply haven't been removed from the GDSs or other sources from which the tool obtains its data.

On the matter of terminating the trip early, I've had to do this a couple of times and suffered no ill consequences. The Oneworld Police (now isn't that a creepy term?) did not come calling.

Often1
Nov 5, 11, 9:22 am
If you skip the final segment, then you suffer no instant harm. If you skip anything before the final segment, the remainder of your itinerary will be cancelled. That may not matter to you, but it's just a reminder.

If you do not fly the ticketed route, it is unlikely but possible that the issuing carrier will refare the routing you did fly and come after you (or debit the credit card used) for the new fare + change fees. It's unlikely if you don't do it often and not sure whether new sophisticated software being used to sniff this out is sophisticated enough to handle travel across operating carriers.

One last risk is that if caught after the fact, issuing carrier does not come after you for your refare but cancels out your FF account. This is a cousin of "hidden city." The generalized advice is not to use a FF#, but not sure that really helps or you want to forgo RTW mileage.

Unterwegs
Nov 5, 11, 5:49 pm
I work with several people who use RTWs on a regular basis. Very often plans change in a way that it is impossible to use the last segment(s) of a ticket. I don't know of even a single instance where this caused any kind of problem.

As mentioned before: it is not a good idea to skip a segment in the middle because then you risk that your remaining reservations will automatically be cancelled (this will happen for sure if they are on the same airline or airlines using the same reservation system).
If you plan to check luggage you also should have the reservation for the last segment(s) not on the same day when your last flight arrives.

Additionally it has been recommended before that the last segment(s) should be on a different carrier from the issuing carrier, but i believethis is not an issue.

serfty
Nov 5, 11, 6:20 pm
Aside from a few documented exceptions, you do need to end the routing at least within the country of origin (with a notional 'surface segment' back to the port of origin). It does not have to be the same place as the originating port.

The actual rules (with the exceptions) state:4. FLIGHT APPLICATION/ROUTINGS

Fares only apply on any AA/AY/BA/CX/IB/JC/JL/JO/KA/LA/LP/MA/MX/NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M
flights.
(a) ...
(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at
the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as
follows
(a) within the country of origin
(b) within the Middle East
(c) between the United States and Canada
(d) between HKG and China
(e) between Malaysia and SIN
(f) within Africa
(g) between Maldives & Sri Lanka/India



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