Hilton HHonors - Earn Hilton HHonors Points and Miles for Meals at Restaurants on Hilton Properties?




SuperCat
Feb 25, 01, 10:11 pm
I was staying at the Hampton Inn Lake Buena Vista, and we decided to go eat at the Embassy Suites next door. When it was time to pay I gave my HHonors card to get the points credited, but the waiter checked with the front desk and said that they couldn't credit my HHonors account.

I know this is possible with the Starwood card. Does anyone know if it is possible to get points for meals only. It is only 500 points, but it could add up..


reroute
Mar 19, 01, 4:13 pm
Question for y'all. I live close to a Hilton, and I absolutely love the restaurant inside (though it's a tad overpriced, but that's for another thread). My question to y'all is this:

Is there anyway I can get Hilton HHonors points for dining and drinking at the restaurant when I am not staying at the Hotel? If so, it would be a big incentive to dine there more frequently.

Thanks,
reroute
Hilton Gold

beaubo
Mar 19, 01, 7:01 pm
Under the new ValuePoint awards request:

DD15 for 15% off dining 5000 HH pts

ML2 for buy one/get one free meal 7500 HH points

Call HH to make sure these awards are accepted at your particular Hilton of choice, as like all Hiltons (no, make that all-travel related companies)- restrictions apply.


reroute
Mar 19, 01, 8:05 pm
My question is really the opposite of that. What I'd like to be able to do is to get Hilton HHonors points when I dine at the restaurant. Like if I take the family for a $90 dinner, is there anyway can I get 900 points, just like if I were to spend $90 on a hotel room, I'd be able to get 900 points?

MisterNice
Mar 19, 01, 8:09 pm
The Hilton co-branded credit cards will give you HH points. I use the AMEX/Hilton Platinum (formerly an Optima) card for my stays, dining and occasional boozing, and the HH points do appear each month. I believe other cc are available. Check the Hilton site.

MisterNice

DOC 2 BE
Mar 19, 01, 9:48 pm
The REAL answer to your question is no. I read somewhere on the Starwood board that if you were a Gold (?) and you ate at any of their hotel restaurants, even though you were not staying there, you could get Starpoints, in addition to any miles/points you would get from your credit card.

The poster said that he liked a number of the chic restaurants that are in certain of the "W" hotels, Sheratons, etc.

To my knowledge, Hilton does not allow you to do this option.

Perhaps we could suggest it to Mr. Burke?

I do think that Marriott allows you this option at certain of its properties in Hong Kong.

reroute
Mar 20, 01, 12:33 pm
I think someone should suggest it to Adam Burke. I'm only a gold at Hilton, but maybe he'd listen to a Diamond? It is possible that Hilton doen't make enough money off the restaurants to encourage non-guests to eat at them--that's a possibility. But if it made sense for them economically, I'd like to see Mr. Burke adopt it.

reroute

PS--Anyone want to volunteer contacting Mr. Burke? (I'd let you put my name to the letter).

DOC 2 BE
Mar 20, 01, 1:43 pm
Originally posted by reroute:
I think someone should suggest it to Adam Burke. I'm only a gold at Hilton, but maybe he'd listen to a Diamond? It is possible that Hilton doen't make enough money off the restaurants to encourage non-guests to eat at them--that's a possibility. But if it made sense for them economically, I'd like to see Mr. Burke adopt it.

reroute

PS--Anyone want to volunteer contacting Mr. Burke? (I'd let you put my name to the letter).

Adam is a very approachable guy. Also, he doesn't bite!! I think you should mention it to him.

BajanYankee
Mar 20, 01, 5:42 pm
Originally posted by DOC 2 BE:
The REAL answer to your question is no. I read somewhere on the Starwood board that if you were a Gold (?) and you ate at any of their hotel restaurants, even though you were not staying there, you could get Starpoints, in addition to any miles/points you would get from your credit card.

Actually, you don't have to be Starwood Gold for this to work - it works at all levels. I've done it several times at Starwood properties here in the Boston area. You present your Starwood card along with your credit card when making payment ($10 +) and you get 2 starpoints for every $ spent. It can be a pain sometimes when you run into staff who are not familiar with the rules, and sometimes you have to follow-up with CSR to make sure the points get posted. I suspect Hilton and others will soon follow if enough of us speak about it.



[This message has been edited by BajanYankee (edited 03-20-2001).]

siliconengineer
Mar 20, 01, 11:37 pm
Its just that Starwood Golds and Platinums get 3 points per dollar from hotel restaurant dining http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

mco_plan
Apr 9, 01, 11:35 am
A local celebrity chef just opened a restaurant at the new Embassy Suites next door to my office. I envision many lunches and dinners there for some time to come.

Can I request for hhonors points when spending $$ at a Hilton property when I'm not checked in as a hotel guest?

Eugene
Apr 9, 01, 11:44 am
According to the HHonors Terms and Conditions (http://www.hilton.com/hhonors/terms.html#Accrual),

"Dining room or other charges not billed to a Member’s room during a stay will not be eligible for credit. Embassy Suites Hotels, Hampton Inn, Hampton Inn & Suites, and Homewood Suites by Hilton - as well as other selected participating hotels - may omit for purposes of point accrual, incidental charges or charges to the Member’s room for non-affiliated hotel entities which are not owned and/or operated by the hotel including, but not limited to, food and beverage outlets, gift shop, drugstore, clothes, gallery or specialty stores, recreational or entertainment concessions."

And welcome to the Board, mco_plan!

DOC 2 BE
Apr 9, 01, 1:06 pm
Originally posted by Eugene:
According to the HHonors Terms and Conditions (http://www.hilton.com/hhonors/terms.html#Accrual),

"Dining room or other charges not billed to a Member’s room during a stay will not be eligible for credit. Embassy Suites Hotels, Hampton Inn, Hampton Inn & Suites, and Homewood Suites by Hilton - as well as other selected participating hotels - may omit for purposes of point accrual, incidental charges or charges to the Member’s room for non-affiliated hotel entities which are not owned and/or operated by the hotel including, but not limited to, food and beverage outlets, gift shop, drugstore, clothes, gallery or specialty stores, recreational or entertainment concessions."

And welcome to the Board, mco_plan!


Yes, BUT ....

I have dined at some Hilton restaurants w/o staying at the hotel, and when using the HHonors AMEX, I HAVE Gotten 5 points/$ because the charge comes out as saying Hilton!

Eugene
Apr 9, 01, 1:14 pm
Originally posted by DOC 2 BE:
I have dined at some Hilton restaurants w/o staying at the hotel, and when using the HHonors AMEX, I HAVE Gotten 5 points/$ because the charge comes out as saying Hilton!
Yep, that's because of the way AmEx has it coded. I was talking about "regular" HHonors points (10 per $ spent) that are not dependent on the means of payment.

STAM4NICK
Apr 27, 01, 5:53 pm
If I just dine at a hotel restauraunt, but I have not made any sort of reservation for a room. I just ate at the restauraunt and that was it, can I give my HHonors card and get points for that meal? I seem to recall that Starwood does this, is that true?

Eugene
Apr 27, 01, 6:15 pm
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/001586.html

VolleyballFerd
Aug 13, 02, 7:03 pm
Can you earn points for eating at the Hilton, when you are not staying at the hotel?

On the website it says you earn for meals charged to your room, but I was wondering if anyone had any other experience.

cactuspete
Aug 13, 02, 7:36 pm
No.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/003921.html

[This message has been edited by cactuspete (edited 08-13-2002).]

VolleyballFerd
Aug 13, 02, 8:40 pm
Thanks

gw14
Aug 14, 02, 2:30 pm
How about if you use the HHonors Amex? Would you get 5 points per dollar?

fscher
Aug 14, 02, 7:24 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gw14:
How about if you use the HHonors Amex? Would you get 5 points per dollar?</font>
Yes you do!
We eat at a great restaurant in the Hilton here in Houston and get the 5 pts per dollar spent there.

gs88
Jan 16, 03, 1:10 am
I'm new to Hilton. At starwood, you earn points for dining even if you don't stay at the hotel (just show VIP card). Has anyone done this before? I didn't see anything about this on the website.
thanx

MIKESILV
Jan 16, 03, 8:05 am
No Hilton does not do this unlike SPG wish they did though.
Mike

kenneth74
Jan 26, 06, 2:07 am
If you have dinner at a Hilton, but not staying there, can you still get points?

Matt1
Jan 26, 06, 4:12 am
If you have dinner at a Hilton, but not staying there, can you still get points?

Im pritty certain that you can not get the points unless you are staying and have a portfolio or whatever they call it in their system. They add the points to you room account/portfolio on the computer -

I tried before to do this and they told me this. - There is no harm in keeping the bill and phoning hhonors after but i really dont think they can do it.

PhxFlyGuy
Sep 6, 06, 5:10 pm
Stayed at DT Paradise Valley AZ over labor day weekend. Should I be entitled to points for my resort purchases?

Sthurston
Sep 6, 06, 5:19 pm
Any and all incidentials will earn you points.

dbmaury
Sep 6, 06, 6:53 pm
If the restaurant charge was charged to your folio.

The Winger
Sep 6, 06, 7:38 pm
As the others have posted before me, definitely! I always get credit when the items have been charged to my room.

Land-of-Miles
Jan 13, 07, 6:43 pm
We will be staying at the Green Park Hilton in a couple of days time and we were tempted to head to Trader Vics at the Park Lane Hilton for dinner one evening. Does anyone know if I can get HH credit for spend at Trader Vics (i.e. not a bog standard Hotel Restaurant), when I am not actually staying at the property?

ZeppoX
Jan 13, 07, 7:33 pm
The terms and conditions (http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/terms.do) state:
To earn HHonors points for hotel stays, a Member must be a registered, paying guest at a participating HHonors hotel ...
Members will earn 10 HHonors Base points for every eligible U.S. dollar (or other currency equivalent) charged to an individual Member's hotel bill ('folio')...

Of course, you can get some points by using a HHonors credit card.

Edit .. hmm, wonder if one hotel will let you charge your dinner to your bill at the other hotel? Doubtful, but would be interesting to know how they react to the question.

fromYXU
Jan 13, 07, 10:26 pm
BTW, works for SPG but not HH.

LouiseT
Apr 6, 07, 3:52 pm
I will be staying at a the Hilton Flamingo timeshare in LV. Can I get Hilton points (and Delta miles) for money spent on food or other extras? I am looking for a Delta credit activity for the 25000 mile Delta offer.

jefrank
Apr 6, 07, 4:50 pm
I will be staying at a the Hilton Flamingo timeshare in LV. Can I get Hilton points (and Delta miles) for money spent on food or other extras? I am looking for a Delta credit activity for the 25000 mile Delta offer.

Depends... are you staying as an HGVC/RCI guest or did you book the Vacation Club via the Hilton (not HGVC) website? If the former, no points will be forthcoming, but if the latter, then it's just like staying at any other Hilton property as far as points go. There are no onsite restaurants to charge meals to the room though, so it's doubtful that you'd be able to get points for anything more than the room itself.

mikey1003
Apr 6, 07, 4:50 pm
I know that you do at regular Hilton property.

My guess (purely a guess) is that if you can charge meals from Flamingo to your room, you will get points.

LouiseT
Apr 6, 07, 6:04 pm
Thanks for replies. It is an RCI exchange.

myfrogger
Apr 6, 07, 6:11 pm
You have to have a room booked through an authorized hilton channel and then bill incidentals to the room to be able to earn miles and points. I have no idea how this would work but I would imagine that you're not checking in at the "hotel" but rather some sort of other desk in the building. I have no idea really though. Ask if you can add your HHonors number to the reservation upon checkin and if you can, then you've done all you can do. Let us know if you get points or not....I'm sure others in the future would like to know.

Have a good trip

awc4
Nov 28, 07, 3:46 am
I recently had a meal at a Hilton with some out of town friends. I seem to recall that I could still earn HHonors points even if I was not a guest at the hotel, is that true? If so, should I have given the server my HHonors card when I paid for my meal?

crabbing
Nov 28, 07, 5:49 am
you only get points if you've actually checked in. in-hotel expenses don't count unless they post to a folio.

Artie
Nov 28, 07, 6:47 am
If you paid with a Hilton Amex card, you would get 5 points/$.

Roger
Nov 28, 07, 7:09 am
I seem to recall that I could still earn HHonors points even if I was not a guest at the hotel ... Certainly possible with Starwood. I did exactly that with a function at the Sheraton in Zurich and earned lots of Starwood points.

MIKESILV
Nov 28, 07, 9:48 am
Certainly possible with Starwood. I did exactly that with a function at the Sheraton in Zurich and earned lots of Starwood points.

One of the differences between the programs.
Another... there are many SPG properties that have on site restaurants (but run by separate entities) and you can even charge your meal to your room but you will not get points for that posting.
With HH anything on your folio (provided the stay is eligible) you will get points.


mike

DH
Nov 28, 07, 9:56 am
If you paid with a Hilton Amex card, you would get 5 points/$.

YMMV. Some of charges at the hotel restaurants will show up as hotel charge not as restaurants.

attorney28
Dec 28, 07, 9:39 pm
Sorry, I couldn't find the answer by doing a search. I seem to remember having read something about this, but can't remember the answer. Recently, I spent quite some money on a breakfast at a Hilton with a bunch of people. We just went there for breakfast, didn't stay there. I asked if I could get HHonors points for it, but they told me "only if you had an overnight stay at the hotel". Is this correct? Just wondering...thanks.

TWAL10114Ever
Dec 28, 07, 9:44 pm
Sorry, I couldn't find the answer by doing a search. I seem to remember having read something about this, but can't remember the answer. Recently, I spent quite some money on a breakfast at a Hilton with a bunch of people. We just went there for breakfast, didn't stay there. I asked if I could get HHonors points for it, but they told me "only if you had an overnight stay at the hotel". Is this correct? Just wondering...thanks.

Yes I believe that is correct, only if you have a folio (i.e stay) at the hotel.

BKKLEE
Dec 28, 07, 10:03 pm
No; you might be thinking of Starwood where answer is yes, but not Hilton.

Sorry, I couldn't find the answer by doing a search. I seem to remember having read something about this, but can't remember the answer. Recently, I spent quite some money on a breakfast at a Hilton with a bunch of people. We just went there for breakfast, didn't stay there. I asked if I could get HHonors points for it, but they told me "only if you had an overnight stay at the hotel". Is this correct? Just wondering...thanks.

attorney28
Dec 29, 07, 4:04 am
Thanks for the info...yes, I probably thought of Starwood, and I think with Hyatt, one could also get points without a stay...

cblaisd
Dec 29, 07, 4:19 am
For the future, everything is negotiable and the manager is empowered to make you a deal. But you'll need a contract for a meal-event, probably with minimums specified. But get the points to be awarded in writing.

omegadeal
Dec 29, 07, 11:49 am
I'd imagine they could check you in and out of the room system temporarily so that you could get points. As mentioned this would have to be negotiated in advance.

myfrogger
Dec 30, 07, 12:30 am
Depending on how much money you spent, it might be wise to purchase the "day use" of a hotel room. Or sometimes I can get them to rent a meeting room to me for an hour and put it on a folio.

sallyerd
Dec 30, 07, 9:17 am
For the future, everything is negotiable ... But get the points to be awarded in writing.

Excellent observation - twice I have been misled about the points for a meeting planner and the contract was too ambiguous.

zaf
Dec 25, 08, 3:42 am
I remember reading it somewhere that the VIP tier (not sure starting which level) can earn points while dining at Hilton's hotel even if the member is not staying at the moment in that hotel.

I tried searching hilton's website but couldn't find where I have read it (or If I have misinterpreted in the first place).

Can someone tell me if that is possible or not and for which level is this feature available?

cjd
Dec 25, 08, 4:58 am
I remember reading it somewhere that the VIP tier (not sure starting which level) can earn points while dining at Hilton's hotel even if the member is not staying at the moment in that hotel.

I tried searching hilton's website but couldn't find where I have read it (or If I have misinterpreted in the first place).

Can someone tell me if that is possible or not and for which level is this feature available?

I'm sure you have to be staying at the hotel to earn points in the restaurant. Never read it anywhere that you can earn points while dining and not staying at Hilton hotels. Wish you could!!

zaf
Dec 25, 08, 5:59 am
I might have misinterpreted it.. hmmm Do you know of any other hotel rewards program that does? SPG, Marriott??

serfty
Dec 25, 08, 6:08 am
I believe this may be a bennie of SPG ...

pjoalfa
Dec 25, 08, 6:53 am
Marriott, too. But you have to fax in the receipts.

Flying Lawyer
Dec 25, 08, 7:14 am
SPG for sure. And HH certainly not.

europeanflyer
Dec 26, 08, 4:17 am
I can confirm HH does not offer this , just had Xmas brunch yesterday at our local Hilton & I asked the question when booking the table.

However SPG does , I did this when staying in Bali , rented a private villa on the property but opened an a/c for lunches , spa etc.

zaf
Dec 26, 08, 2:09 pm
Too bad, I like to dine at Hilton's restaurants.

aztimm
Dec 26, 08, 3:47 pm
SPG for sure. And HH certainly not.

Never say never. I've received several emails from local HHonors properties (specifically the Arizona Biltmore, perhaps others), that eating in their restaurants would earn points, even without staying there. It was a specific promotion-type thing, I believe you had to bring a printout of the email to qualify. This makes sense in the slow summer season here.

HotAirBus
Dec 29, 08, 9:14 pm
I tried many times to get points for dining without staying, no go everytime.

margarita girl
Mar 14, 09, 1:58 pm
I just had a reward stay at the Hilton Moorea (booked with SPG points when it was the Sheraton Moorea). We had an astronomical food and beverage bill (since drinks were about $20 each, breakfast was $38/person and miso soup was $32 for example, all pre-tip!). Can I expect to at least get HHonors points for that?

travelinfoo
Mar 14, 09, 2:31 pm
I just had a reward stay at the Hilton Moorea (booked with SPG points when it was the Sheraton Moorea). We had an astronomical food and beverage bill (since drinks were about $20 each, breakfast was $38/person and miso soup was $32 for example, all pre-tip!). Can I expect to at least get HHonors points for that?

Did you have your HHonors number on the bill or was another number there? If HHonors, you do get points for incidental spending.

margarita girl
Mar 14, 09, 2:51 pm
Yes, I made sure they had my HHonors number. So it sounds like I should get my points.

(Mods, thanks for moving. I did a search on "meals" in the title and this thread never showed up! :rolleyes:)

Bondiboy
Mar 14, 09, 3:35 pm
Did you have your HHonors number on the bill or was another number there? If HHonors, you do get points for incidental spending.

This is not always correct as you can only earn points in connection with "eligible rate stays" . But YMMV.

The T&C state:



Earn 10 HHonors Base points for each eligible U.S. dollar charged to your room, including telephone and room service charges for eligible rate stays at all participating Hilton, Conrad, Doubletree, Embassy Suites, and Hilton Garden Inn and Hilton Grand Vacations Club hotels.

Eligible Rate stays are stays at all rates except wholesale/tour operator packages, contracted airline crew rates, complimentary or barter rooms, stays on NET Group, Series Group or IT Group rates, contracted Entertainment or Encore rates and stays using airline percent-off award certificates. Stays that are booked via third party websites are not Eligible Stays irrespective of rate paid, for the purpose of earning points, miles or stay credit toward VIP tier status.



The booking via the Starwood website could be considered a third party, if they want to.

But MG may get lucky. I hope that she does.

mommafrica
Mar 14, 09, 4:48 pm
Depends... are you staying as an HGVC/RCI guest or did you book the Vacation Club via the Hilton (not HGVC) website? If the former, no points will be forthcoming, but if the latter, then it's just like staying at any other Hilton property as far as points go. There are no onsite restaurants to charge meals to the room though, so it's doubtful that you'd be able to get points for anything more than the room itself.

Isn't RCI considered a 3rd party?

yoshapman
Mar 17, 09, 3:20 pm
Hello,

So just wanted to ask a quick question - I recently dined twice at the Hilton Queen of Sheba in Eilat, Israel but was not staying there. Can I fax in my receipts to get Hilton points for the meals. I know SPG lets you do this but I did not know about Hilton.

Thank you.

rdchen
Mar 17, 09, 3:37 pm
ASAIK, SPG is the one program doing this.



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