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davidlee
Dec 10, 00, 7:47 pm
Has anyone stayed on Concierge floor at Paris Las Vegas? Is it worth the extra $?


ontheroad
Dec 12, 00, 9:21 am
I got comped up to the level back when they considered themselves Hilton.

The breakfast included some delightful fruit and parafet. Evening nosh was mediocre. The hours for the lounge are only early a.m. and something like 4-7 p.m. It was *not* open late or during mid-day. There were no business amenities -- I believe they cater more the high rolling gamblers vs. high flying travelers.

What is the add'l $ for that level?

Flybynite
Feb 13, 01, 1:52 am
I was wondering if anyone turned in pts for the Paris Hotel in Vegas? I'm planning on going to Vegas in March and wondering if it's difficult to get rooms comped for the weekend. Will they give me any treatment for bringing in the certificates and showing my Diamond card? Any suggestions will do? Does Caesars count in the HHonors?


silverpie
Feb 13, 01, 10:49 am
Caesars is a Starwood, not a Hilton, for frequent-guest purposes, but not fully one (I can't recall the details).

SNA1K
Feb 13, 01, 4:31 pm
I stayed at Paris over Thanksgiving weekend using only points. I booked it mid-September without any difficulty. Nice property!

ClassicalGal
Feb 13, 01, 9:43 pm
The Vegas Caesars is (or was) owned by Starwood, but Hilton's Park Place folks are managing it. It's a weird situation with the Vegas hotels.

danlo
Jun 21, 01, 2:01 pm
Hello all,

I was wondering if making an award reservation at the Paris @ Las Vegas is worth 65k points (the highest level in the Hilton hotel awards type) for a weekend. I've never been to the casino (never ventured there, don't know why), and know absolutely nothing about the hotel accomodations.

BTW, I did confirm with the reservation folks that they are still taking Hilton awards and participate in the HH program...

Thanks folks!

SoFlaGuy
Jun 21, 01, 2:17 pm
I would base this decision on the lowest rate I could get for a room at the Paris. I stayed two months ago for a compnay paid business trip, and had a very nice room. It's the nicest hotel I've stayed at in Las Vegas.

I payed $165 per night, and only because there was a big convention at that time. I know that many time you can get a rate as low as $45. Go to the Paris web site (www.paris-lv.com) and check for internet specials rates, which are better than you would get anywhere else.

If you can get a rate of less than $100, I would say go ahead and pay for the room, and save your points for a much more expensive hotel stay somewhere else. I know that many of the "Premium Points" hotels go for much MUCH more than $100 per night.

But then again, you may have 600,000 points and 65k points is nothing to you. In that case, you can't go wrong with the Paris. The location and hotel are fantastic! Definitely go to the Village Buffet for breakfast/lunch, you won't be dissappointed!

danlo
Jun 21, 01, 3:11 pm
Ok, since I have absolutely no concept of points vs. cost:

The two nights that I plan to use the reward points are going to cost $180 and $200, respectively. So that's probably about $420 total for the two nights after tax.

$420 versus 65,000 points: is it worth it?

squeakr
Jun 21, 01, 3:33 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by danlo:
Ok, since I have absolutely no concept of points vs. cost:

The two nights that I plan to use the reward points are going to cost $180 and $200, respectively. So that's probably about $420 total for the two nights after tax.

$420 versus 65,000 points: is it worth it?</font>


I have found most LV hotels have a wide range of room rates for any nights EXCEPT whern there is a big sporting event. I would check

www.travelscape.com (http://www.travelscape.com)

first to see how low you can get a room for. $200 a night at Paris is a LOT of money to pay for what are usualy smaller than LV average rooms...if you ge t upgraded their premier rooms are quite nice.

Lulu
Jun 21, 01, 5:38 pm
This probably sound simplistic, but the way I figure the cost of a Hilton Reward stay is still use the .02 cents per mile rule.

Since you can convert 1 mile to 2 points (for most airlines), I would calculate your stay as follow:65,000 points/2 = 32,500 miles X .02 = $650.00.

There are SEVERAL properties in Vegas that Hilton or Park Place Entertainment owns, 3 within walking distance to Paris: Ballys, (connected to Paris) Ceasars Palace (across the street), Flamingo Hilton (across from Ballys & Ceasars). They also have several Embassy Suites in Vegas which I believe are Select Levels, thought it is off the strip by the Convention Center.

hfly
Jun 21, 01, 8:09 pm
I wouldn't blow them on any Vegas hotels, I'd use them for upmarket nondiscount properties in better locations. In my opinion all the top Vegas properties are the same and can be gotten for under $100 a night.

jan_az
Jun 21, 01, 8:42 pm
I have $59/nite from Paris in July.

Check their website

www.lvparis.com (http://www.lvparis.com)

afang
Jun 22, 01, 12:20 am
Save your points and just find a good rate in Vegas. I stayed at the Doubletree Club on Warmsprings, off the strip, it was very nice and very quiet.

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SPort
Jun 22, 01, 12:43 pm
jan-az, good for you! I'm going in August and I'm paying $79 (the lowest rate offered when I booked in May).

Here is the correct link to the Paris Las Vegas site:
http://www.paris-lv.com

Their special offers page:
http://www.parkplace.com/deals/Parislv.asp

Galla47
Jun 22, 01, 1:32 pm
As a gold HH memeber, what's the chances of being upgraded at Paris during a weekend stay?

Any shot at all?

-Kevin

PDX1K
Jun 22, 01, 10:26 pm
I used 65,000 HHonors points for a weekend stay at Paris LV this May. Was upgraded to bigger room. Hotel was nice but probably not quite up to the Premium catagory. Had I to do over again I would save my points.

Doug

blackjack-21
Jun 22, 01, 11:44 pm
Definately save your points and look for a good rate on their website, or other hotel booking sites. You should be able to get a room there for $89 or less (except on busy convention or sporting event dates, and never on Friday or Saturday nights) for stays from Sunday through Thursday. Use your points for more pricier hotels.

bj-21.

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FFSaver
Jun 23, 01, 5:18 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by jan_az:
I have $59/nite from Paris in July.

Check their website

www.lvparis.com (http://www.lvparis.com)</font>

Jan_az,

Where did you find this rate? Your link doesn't work

Also, do you get HHonours points for the stay there? and what is the chance for an upgrade as GOLD VIP?

Eugene
Jun 23, 01, 5:41 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by FFSaver:
Also, do you get HHonours points for the stay there? and what is the chance for an upgrade as GOLD VIP?

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Yes, they give HHonors points and miles (points posted in 48 hours). Try to check in at the airport (next to the baggage claim) and ask for a higher floor with a Strip/Bellagio view.

jan_az
Jun 23, 01, 5:45 pm
Here is the correct link to the Paris Las Vegas site:
http://www.paris-lv.com

Their special offers page:
http://www.parkplace.com/deals/Parislv.asp

I got it right off their web page - the rates varied wildly depending on the day of the week - but were much cheaper in July than Aug - I am going because I need some HP segments - so just picked a cheap day that I could get HP's 60 dollar round trip fare - hopefully I wont lose too much money. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I stayed at the Flamingo last month and did get upgraded, points and miles poseted right away - but no breakfast or anything.

katz
Jul 12, 01, 5:08 pm
Are there any benefits at this casino?

Eugene
Jul 12, 01, 5:18 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by katz:
Are there any benefits at this casino?</font>

Nothing, of course, on the casino side (no better winning chances and such http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif ), but you would most likely be upgraded to a better room with a view of Bellagio and Eiffel Tower. Checking in at the Park Place Entertainment booth at the airport (next to the baggage carousel) is preferable, both from the upgrade point of view, and saving time as well, as it is much less crowded.

FFSaver
Jul 12, 01, 5:21 pm
NOPE http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

just stayed there last week, and got nothing when I showed them my GOLD VIP card.

However, I got HH points


Do a search on the Hilton thread and you will find plenty of info

atlgaflyer
Jul 14, 01, 10:21 am
I stayed twice at the Paris over the past three months (May & June) and was upgraded to a strip view. Prior to stating my Gold status, I was told the strip view was like an extra $25.00. After I showed my Gold card, on both occasions I was given a room with a view, the room itself was probably the same as all other standard rooms but the view was a lot nicer. Sounds like this benefit varies based on space available. No other benefits except HHonors and FF points.

artiem
Jul 14, 01, 9:58 pm
I'm HHonors Gold, and have stayed at Paris three times over the past 14 months. I've asked for an upgrade each time at check-in, and received a suite upgrade once. Dumb luck, I suppose, but the suite was just beautiful. The other two times my rooms were facing Bellagio (e.g. minor upgrades), so I think Gold VIP counts for at least something.

Based on the suite experience alone, I'd have to think long & hard before staying anywhere else in LV.

CLTFlyer
Jul 15, 01, 2:38 pm
Just stayed there over the 4th, and I think all I got as a Gold HHonors was the higher floor room, with a view of some of the Strip (Aladdin side, plus the airport - not stunning, but better than the side with the Thomas & Mack). Did not receive the room with a King bed I had requested, but I was checking in around 8:30 p.m. at the airport check-in - so probably nothing left.

No late check-out beyond adding an hour (from 11 a.m. to noon), and to get additional time would have required the Casino Host to give his/her o.k.

No casino benefits for HHonors members (that IU was aware of).

But it's a very nice property - rooms are quite nice. Just remember, they charge you an arm and a leg for the bottled water in your bathroom.

Regardless of the apparent lack of HHonors benefits, I'd return again and again (assuming the rate is reasonable).

[This message has been edited by CLTFlyer (edited 07-15-2001).]

aussiemate
Jul 15, 01, 10:04 pm
We stayed at Paris over New Year's this year, and we found out that beginning on 1/1/01, neither Paris nor Bally's would give you complimentary visits to the health club. We also did not receive a room upgrade, but I think that's because they were pretty sold out for New Year's! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

boilermaker
Aug 3, 01, 11:50 pm
Recieved a card in the mail from HHONORS today with special rates for HHONORS members:

*$89/night Sun-Thurs, $129/night Fri, Sat.
*Two comp tix to the Eiffel Tower Experience
*10% Mandara Spa discount on services and 20% discount on products
and most importantly,

*500 HHONORS bonus pounts per stay.

Mention offer DPHHM.

LoveHateUA
Aug 4, 01, 9:28 am
Boilermaker:

Do you have a telephone number for this promotion?

What are the eligible dates for the promotion?

Thanks...

[This message has been edited by LoveHateUA (edited 08-04-2001).]

boilermaker
Aug 4, 01, 6:16 pm
LoveHateUA:

Call (888) 266-6487 or www.parislasvegas.com (http://www.parislasvegas.com) - the only blackout dates shown are 7/27/01-8/4/01.

LoveHateUA
Aug 6, 01, 2:56 pm
Thanks boilermaker:

Offer expires September 28th.

vickh
Aug 6, 01, 4:36 pm
tried booking myself for 8/16-17 with the Hhonors promo and the Amex promo. Both sold out.

Any other promos going on or alternative ways of getting a discounted rate at this property?

SPort
Aug 17, 01, 3:30 pm
Just returned from a 2 night stay at Paris. Had read on these boards to request a room facing the Bellagio fountains. Check-in clerk replied "We do not have rooms with views of other hotels." It was my first trip to Las Vegas so I thought I had it wrong -- I didn't argue. We did get a nice 6th floor room overlooking the pool and Eiffel Tower. We noticed there we two water bottles in the room and were happy to have them to carry with us (very hot). The maid restocked them the following day. When checking out I noticed a room service charge for $10. Front desk explained it was for the water! There was nothing in the room saying we'd be charged so I protested and it was removed. I'd thought it was a Gold VIP amenity. I see from CLT's above post that that isn't the case. Very nice staff and overall a good hotel.

Tolarian Wind
Aug 17, 01, 3:42 pm
At my recent stay at the Paris there was a small card leaning against the bottles of water in the bathroom that advised that there was a charge if you drank the water.

Upon arriving in my room I checked the info for phone charges. The guest directory said there was a 1.00 surcharge with no time limit. When I checked out I found that the charge had increased and was now metered after 30 minutes. The agent said that I should have seen that as it is printed on the check in folio that I sign.

I checked in at the airport counter and the agent tore off the top part to have me initial my rate and tore off the bottom part and handed me the charge cards attached and threw out the body of the folio (where the notice of the charges were)

They offered to remove the charges after they got a managers approval which they said could take upwards of 1/2 hour. I paid the charges and next time in Vegas I will stay at the Venitian!

TW

ToddETurner
Aug 17, 01, 7:24 pm
I just stayed at the Paris 8/8 thru 8/11 and was upgraded to Tower View / Bellagio view. At check in I was asked if I wanted a 'room with a view, for being a Gold Card Customer'.

Pake
Aug 18, 01, 10:28 pm
Stayed at the Paris Hotel in April. Lovely property, nice guest service associates.

Don't know about Gold benefits, yet, "just a silver" Hhonors member. Remembered Grandma's adage...

"it's nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice".........

Asked "if there was anyway I could get a bigger room with a nice view"?

Viola! " a sweet suite".

Aloha http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

PBozanich
Aug 19, 01, 7:27 am
Have stayed many times at the Paris. Be warned: it is a lovely hotel, but the new pool cleaning system requires them to practically freeze the water overnight. We go to Vegas twice a year to hang out by the pool, and it was so cold we couldn't do more than wade in it. Everyone else huddled around the edges. It was 95 degrees outside, and still, too cold in the pool. I won't be staying there again.

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ChinaShark
Aug 19, 01, 11:08 am
Will be staying here 8/27 - 8/30. Got a room rate of $110/night. As a HH Gold, I'll look forward to ANY type of upgrade.

CS

suzieq
Aug 19, 01, 11:46 am
Does anybody know if there are plans to terminate Paris (and Flamingo) from the Hhonors Program as far as earning points? If so, ending date.

Eugene
Aug 20, 01, 9:21 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChinaShark:
Will be staying here 8/27 - 8/30. Got a room rate of $110/night. As a HH Gold, I'll look forward to ANY type of upgrade.

CS</font>

ChinaShark -- If you have any AmEx card, you may want want to change your last night (8/29) to a DPAXM package - $79, including 2 Eiffel Tower tickets and a couple other discount offers. See http://www.parislasvegas.com/ for more details.

ChinaShark
Aug 21, 01, 12:12 am
Eugene,

Thanks for the great tip. I'll be looking into that ASAP.

You just gotta love FT.

CS

Cricket4
Oct 8, 01, 6:27 pm
I just called Hilton to find out how to redeem this award and was told that Paris is no longer a "Hilton property". I thought this award was still available. Does anyone know more about this? Thank you, Cricket4

Eugene
Oct 8, 01, 10:09 pm
That's true, Paris Las Vegas is no longer a Hilton, although staying there generates HHonors points and miles.

I'm afraid that the only HHonors award for that particular property is a part of Vacation Rewards (http://www.hilton.com/en/hhonors/rewards/americas.jhtml) - Paris Las Vegas Tour Eiffel: Two free nights for two, including two tickets to the Eiffel Tower Tour, a $25 food voucher valid at any Paris Las Vegas restaurant, and one buffet breakfast for two in Le Village Buffet. Reward Code: PARLV; HHonors points: 100,000.

Definitely not a good value, IMHO.

Flybynite
Oct 8, 01, 10:37 pm
That's right. This hotel doesn't participate in the rewards except the vacation package. You will get points for the stay and might get upgraded depending on the front desk person. Better to check in at the airport and try your luck there.

fallinasleep
Oct 8, 01, 11:59 pm
So, the Paris Las Vegas would qualify as a stay under the EWRDC promo?

j379pa
Oct 9, 01, 12:24 am
Yes, it did qualify for me! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Cricket4
Oct 9, 01, 4:57 am
Eugene...that's what I wanted! The two day AWARD, but the CR said they had no way to offer it to me. How do I go about claiming a vacation award if the reps say it doesn't exist? What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Cricket4

Tolarian Wind
Oct 9, 01, 6:35 am
Is this really what you want?

2 nights at the Paris Las Vegas
Admission for 2 to the Tower Tour
25.00 food voucher
1 buffet breakfast for 2

for 100,000 HHonors points?

Seems like a poor value to me when Las Vegas hotels can be had for 100.00 or better per night.

TW

Cricket4
Oct 9, 01, 8:15 am
OK OK Ya'll talked me out of the insanity! I do have a lot of points that I was saving for a VIP trip to Egypt, but there is no way I want to go to THAT part of the world at this time. I guess I will look for 6 days at a super resort...somewhere! Thanks for caring, Cricket4

Eugene
Oct 9, 01, 9:29 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Cricket4:
OK OK Ya'll talked me out of the insanity! </font>

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

stc
Oct 9, 01, 9:42 am
FYI, earlier this year, I tried to get that award during a low occupancy weekend. There were many phone calls with Hilton which ended with them saying they would have to call the hotel and see if those dates were available at the hotel (for different dates). After 2-3 months of this, the Hilton Diamond Desk called me back and said the hotel wasn't going to honor that award. I explained my displeasure and that I had already booked a paid stay (thru Amex Platinum) at the MGM Grand and to please note that I would never stay at the Paris Las Vegas hotel again.

Tolarian Wind
Oct 9, 01, 10:42 am
Are you Elite with HHonors?

If so, why don't you consider using the VIP award chart, 100K gets you 6 nights at almost any HHonors property in the world. 150K gets those like the Waldorf.

TW

stc
Oct 9, 01, 10:46 am
Yes, Diamond with HHonors, Platinum with Starwood ...

Well, I only wanted to go for 2-3 nights and as people impiled the Paris Las Vegas stopped honoring that award earlier.

In any case I figured out the advice of this group independantly (just pay for LV since it is so cheap). Unfortunately as it turns out my trip was cancelled by the unwillingness of some of the people involved to travel after 9/11. Next time ...

-Rick

Cricket4
Oct 9, 01, 10:53 am
Tolarian Wind, if you were asking me, yes I am elite with lots of Hilton points & can do a VIP award. Actually, I can't decide on any area where I want to stay for 6 days! If it's a tropical location, I'd rather stay at a dedicated dive resort than a Hilton. So I am trying to come up with a great place to stay for 6 days and tour FROM (other than NYC!)BTW,I hope I am not at the wrong Forum for this....Cricket4

petcat41
Oct 9, 01, 4:52 pm
Cricket4 said:
I can't decide on any area where I want to stay for 6 days!

Have you thought about staying at St Lucia? Check them out on the website, it looks absolutely FABULOUS!

Flybynite
Oct 29, 01, 4:27 pm
Has anyone experienced any Diamond benefits while staying there recently? Going there this weekend and would like an upgrade or some breakfast certificates. From these threads, it seems I'll be lucky to get even some pts for the stay. Called to the diamond desk to book the reservation but they sent me to reservations. The rates were pretty high but got lucky w/ a postcard from them about some special rates. From my last visit, the Le Village buffet was great and the casino at Bally's was more my liking. But not looking forward to the minimum $10 tables. Unfortunately, I promised the wife I would take it easy on the spending this time so limited to those $1-5 tables.

Eugene
Oct 29, 01, 5:06 pm
Upgrade - high probability (make sure you check in at the airport), ask for the upper floor room facing the strip. Breakfast - no. For more information see this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/002843.html

ExpoTrac
Oct 29, 01, 5:28 pm
Try the Bellagio buffet...I think it's better than Paris and about the same price. The Mon Ami Gabi is also a nice restaurant in Paris. Excalibur had $3 BJ tables during the day, and I think the Flamingo has $1 tables. Good luck...I came home cleaned out last week!

Flybynite
Oct 29, 01, 6:44 pm
Thanks for the tip. Will check in at the airport but my wife loves the crepes at the Le Village too much to go over to the Bellagio. However, does anyone know how to get them ellusive "O" tickets for Friday or Saturday?

Flybynite
Oct 29, 01, 6:49 pm
How about the Le Cirque restaurant in Bellagio? Is it worth the price?

MisterNice
Oct 29, 01, 6:55 pm
quote:
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"...does anyone know how to get them ellusive "O" tickets for Friday or Saturday?..."
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Play Black Jack using the nice black chips any Friday or Saturday night. Trust me, it always works.

MisterNice

Flybynite
Oct 29, 01, 7:36 pm
That's a good idea. I'll drop 500/1000 a chip??? at the hotel for them tickets.

SharonLPK
Oct 29, 01, 8:11 pm
Am not 100% sure about "O", but at least for Mystere: friends of mine got there early, stood in the stand-by line... not only got the tickets, but great seats too http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif If it was me, I'd try this on Friday night rather than Saturday night.

Wolverine
Oct 30, 01, 9:42 pm
If its a choice between the 2 shows, definitely go to Mystrere over O.....Mystere is widely regarded as the superior show.

Also see Blue Man Group....awesome! Better than Sigfried & Roy.

mikey1003
Nov 6, 01, 1:02 pm
In making reservations today for mid-December (59.00 Sun-Thurs.) I was told that Diamond automatically upgrades me to 22nd Club what ever that is???

Flybynite
Nov 6, 01, 3:26 pm
Mikey..

Most floors above 20 are considered premium rooms. I just stayed there this weekend and got upgraded to a nice suite on the 23rd floor. I would recommend checking in at the airport Parkplace CS. No line and gave me the rm key so I didn't have to wait at the hotel w/ all those other people. They should upgrade you if they have suites available. Don't expect anything more than that.

FFSaver
Nov 6, 01, 3:47 pm
I used the airport check-in back in July. The advantage was that I didn't have to stand in line. Didn't get anything special. Asked for an upgrade (i.e. facing the stripe), but was told that everything was gone. I showed him my HHGOLD card, and was told that he wasn't sure if they are still with the HH program. Anyway, I got a corner room (considered premium because it had a "P" behind the room #). The room was facing the parking lot!

Well, the toilet broke in the room and we were forced out http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redface.gif. Got a "mini-suite" instead which was pretty big. Otherwise, didn't get anything extra. BTW, I got my HH points a week or so after my stay http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

As for the "O" show, don't buy your ticket over the internet. If you do, print out the seating map as proof of your "reserved" seats. The website showed us our seats which looked like they were in the middle of the auditorium. We ended up being in the last row of the theater!!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif We should have printed out the map that the website showed!!! The show itself was ok... very high-tech stage, but I don't think it's worth $100/ticket...

Enjoy your stay http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

travelour
Nov 7, 01, 4:46 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mikey1003:
In making reservations today for mid-December (59.00 Sun-Thurs.) I was told that Diamond automatically upgrades me to 22nd Club what ever that is???</font>

i couldn't find anything on the website about this $59 deal. do you have any information about it and/or dates that it is available? also, if anyone has stayed there before, could you describe how the rooms are? thx.

mikey1003
Nov 8, 01, 9:43 am
I just called the hotel and kept asking for lower rate..Kept saying I know you are empty, do better!

J0HN
Nov 8, 01, 10:30 am
I believe 22nd club refers to the concierge level at Bally's, not Paris. The $59 rate may actually be for Bally's, as both hotels can be booked through the same number. I would expect Paris to be $10 or $20 more a night (without a specific promotion number), but I may be wrong.

magic111
Nov 8, 01, 11:25 am
We were there in August and could not find the airport check-in.
Went to the Hotel about 1030p Fri nite and waited in the lines.
When we got to the front asked if we recieved anything for being Hilton Gold and were told no. After watching the csr punch around on the keyboard for about 10 minutes he asked us to wait and he went into the back room. Returned and informed us that we were being given a suite on the top floor. The Nice Suite, they are named after cities in France.
Normally costs 2500 per night. Has its own jacuzzi and a shower bigger than most hotel bathrooms. Had its own dining room and when you wanted to watch tv while in bed you turned on the remote and the tv rose up out of the foot of the bed. Had a giant screen tv in the living room. After we unpacked called my daughter and her husband up who were on the 15th floor and we all trekked out to the Casino Royale so we could play $2 tables.
On saturday tom911 came over and we asked him if he wanted to have room service in our own private dining room but he wanted to go to bellagio. When my daughter and her husband got up around 1pm they came up to the room and had brunch in the room.
Went to "O" saturday night and fell asleep during the performance. "Mystere" is so much better.

[This message has been edited by magic111 (edited 11-08-2001).]

ws8n
Nov 13, 01, 2:44 am
while we are at this topic, does anyone know if there are show packages with room stays for blue man group and mystere? I checked the show prices and they are rather steep ($85 and $100 respectively)

2400
Nov 20, 01, 4:45 pm
Are the current online booking, double miles, and Visa promotions applicable at Las Vegas Paris Hotel or other Park Place Entertainment properties?

craz
Nov 20, 01, 6:06 pm
I was told by CS ONLY if they can be booked from 'hilton.com'. most of what you asked can be done from the hotels site and not hiltons,except for the LV Hilton.

tracy62061
Nov 29, 01, 3:02 pm
do anyone know if the Paris Hotel/Casino in Las Vegas still accepting/giving HHonors points for stays. I have a business trip coming up to Vegas and wanted to get out the weekend before and cash in. Last time I was there, they upgraded me and gave HH points. Any help would be appreciated.

Eugene
Nov 29, 01, 3:50 pm
tracy62061 -- You may want to read these threads:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/002735.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/002100.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/002843.html

doc
Dec 19, 01, 7:59 am
$40 -- Paris Las Vegas, Exclusive Special + Eiffel Tower

http://www.travelzoo.com/Top20.asp?id=0261179

Stephen loves Starwood
Dec 19, 01, 9:56 am
Wow !

And a 50$ dining certificate to boot.

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NJDavid
Dec 19, 01, 10:22 am
I Love Paris LV, don't get me wrong, but be aware that it's not a single $50 dining certificate in most cases. It's $5 of this restaruant, $10 off that restaurant , $15 off dinner for 2 at the next, etc. Still a good deal, but don't expect $50 to spend on the restaurant of your choice.

BuBu
Feb 18, 02, 3:01 am
i'm going to vegas in april... we booked 3 nights at paris... the "paris passport package".. which gives us the rate of 89-129-129.. sounds ok right?

i'm a vegas newbie.. not to mention a HH newbie too .. hence just BLUE.. no gold or platinum.. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif (although i did pickup the 1000 signup bonus and another 1000 for info update)

any tips on how to get a NICER service .. upgrade.. a little bit of freebies here and there? so we at least get to ENJOY ourselves a little bit..

no parking is necessary (i've read your other thread -- vegas recommendations).. we've got no car..

there are 4 of us in the room.. but we booked with adult#=2 only.. (apparantly max 3 in room).. how are we going to pull this off...

reason for all the above questions... i'm really tight with money right now.. plus.. this forum has encouraged me in many ways to save.. and exchange deals/ideas...

so .. thank you all in advance...

[This message has been edited by BuBu (edited 02-18-2002).]

Andrew Yiu
Feb 18, 02, 3:06 am
Check out the Las Vegas (http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forumcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Las+Vegas&number=5&DaysPrune=5&LastLogin=) forum, there are some nice tips over there.

Also check out: Vegas Watch (http://www.vegaswatch.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">there are 4 of us in the room.. but we booked with adult#=2 only.. (apparantly max 3 in room).. how are we going to pull this off...</font>
Seriously, with hotels at LV that busy, they will never know how many people are staying in each room. Just tell them you have 2 persons in the room and request 2 queen bed, then you should be fine.

QuietLion
Feb 18, 02, 9:58 pm
The rooms in Paris aren't too bad. How many beds do you need for four people? That could limit your upgrade opportunities.

If you are not a gambler, there are two strategies for upgrading in Vegas. One is to ask nicely but persistently and the other is to slip the clerk a $20 bill (combine the two for best results). However, if you need two double beds your upgrade will likely be limited to a high floor and Strip view.

If you will be playing table games, always ask the supervisor for a line pass. This will enable you to cut the line at the (pretty good) coffee shop and (overrated) buffet. Paris buffet is best for breakfast. If you're doing buffet lunch or dinner the adjacent Aladdin and across-the-street Bellagio are superior.

You can get $20 off the excellent Artistes steakhouse through a slot club promo if you're going to be playing slots. All these places are pretty expensive though.

Check with the hotel a couple days before you leave. They may have lowered the room rates. If they have, rebook at the lower rates.

Have fun!

stimpy
Feb 19, 02, 8:58 am
Check in at the airport facility. I got a nice upgrade that way and you can skip the long lines at the hotel.

J0HN
Feb 19, 02, 12:48 pm
BuBu,
The rates sound good, but you may want to see if other (nearly identical)packages they offer are cheaper (AA package, Americawest package,etc.---check www.paris-lv.com (http://www.paris-lv.com) for specifics included, but call the hotel for availability). The dining certificates in the package are coupons for different restaurants (not a $50 food credit).

You can do the profile update twice per quarter for 2,000 points (you indicated only receiving 1,000 points, so go do it again).

Upgrades for two bedded rooms will be difficult as previously stated in this thread.

In terms of keys, depending on your age, you may want to add children http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif to the room so you can get more keys at check in (double check with Paris, but Hiltons generally do not charge for extra persons under 18). Otherwise, just ask for three keys at check in, and claim a lost key later.

BuBu
Feb 19, 02, 5:20 pm
wow.. thx for the quick response..

so i've also checked out the 2 vegas threads recommended.. here's what i'm going to do..

--call b4 cancellation deadline to see if the rate drops (forget about the dining credit.. $50 for all over the place.. forget pkgs.. i'm also not eligible for AA)
--check in with a $20 bill for possible upgrade (4 ppl = 2 couples = 2 db/Q beds = 2 keys) higher up and strip facing, right??
--update my HH info 2x/quarter
--check in with my Air Canada boarding pass for bonus 250 aeropoints
--ask for breakfast??
--i'm arriving around 11pm.. is there still an advantage for me to check in at the airport (i'm HH BLUE, not gold..).. or wait for the hotel.. or it depends on who i get ..

thx again...

NJDavid
Feb 19, 02, 6:15 pm
Just got back from three nights at Paris. I'm there every three weeks or so.

Gotta disagree about the buffet..No one matches their quality of food. Pricey perhaps, but if you care what cuts and grades of food go into you, pay the money.

Did find out about a gold mine that I didn't know about. Ballys has recently (within the last year) decided NOT to charge for children at the Big Kitchen Buffet (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Kids 7 and under eat free. This was a HUGE savings for my family over the three day weekend.

Also, just about all of the food establishments at Paris and Ballys now give a 10% discount if you show the new Park Place Connection card.

We were upgraded to the smallest suite (LeMans) as a Diamond, even though the property was sold out and we got there on Saturday at 7pm. The folks at the airport are wonderful. (They also give you a coupon book for park place properties which has some values (a few dollars off the big kitchen, 2 for one at the very underwhelming LV hilton buffet, other gambling and attraction discounts arranged by property, etc.) Make sure you get one.

onedog
Feb 20, 02, 12:51 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BuBu:
...reason for all the above questions... i'm really tight with money right now...</font>

Vegas may not be the best place for you right now. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

BuBu
Feb 20, 02, 1:22 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by onedog:
Vegas may not be the best place for you right now. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

</font>

i hear ya... but i didn't have any say in the location picking process.. so now i've paid for my flight... just trying to save a few bucks on hotel/food/etc...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

cavman75
Feb 20, 02, 5:58 pm
I'm new to the Hilton chain as I've been comped Hilton Gold for being a USAirways Chairmen preferred. My question is with the casino Hiltons such as the Atlantic City Hilton and Las Vegas Hilton and other Hilton Vegas hotels. If I have a free stay due to my slot play, can I get upgraded with my Hilton Gold status? Or can I only get upgraded on paid stays? Thanks in advance.

edg1
Feb 20, 02, 6:28 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cavman75:
...can I get upgraded with my Hilton Gold status? Or can I only get upgraded on paid stays?</font>

I have been upgraded on free stays (using HHonors points), but now that Park Place hotels are somewhat seperate from Hilton, upgrading is sporadic at best. There are some other threads which discuss recent upgrade success at Paris & Ballys

NJDavid
Feb 20, 02, 7:08 pm
When you stay in a property that upgrades you due to your HHonors VIP status, it is supposed to make no difference if you are staying for free or for top dollar. You are entitled to the awarded benefits by walking in the door.

Paris and the LV hilton (that both offer upgrades to diamonds) do not differentiate between paid stays, reward stays, or comp stays. The LV Hilton however does reserve the right not to give HHonors points on comp or heavily discounted stays.

yellow jacket
Apr 2, 02, 11:09 am
Just got back from LV yesterday and wanted to give an update: I stayed at Paris and checked in at the airport and was upgraded (I am Diamond) to a Calais Suite with 2 bathrooms, dining room, living room, and bedroom with an amazing with of the pool, eiffel tower and Bellagio. Mind you, this was during final four weekend and the hotel was sold out (I did check in on Wednesday so that may have helped)

Points posted today as well

kam
Apr 21, 02, 5:57 pm
Can you redeem HHonors Points at Paris in Las Vegas or just earn points? HHonors reservations told me I had to call Paris direct and gave me the number. The reservation clerk at Paris said they no longer accept points but you can accumulate them by staying there. Can someone explain the deal with Paris to me. I would really like to use up dome of my points this summer in Las Vegas.

MartinElk
Apr 21, 02, 9:01 pm
I doubt you will be able to redeem points for the Paris Las Vegas, that is technically under the Park Place name now.

As another option, you might check the Park Place Specials site to see if you can get a reasonable rate, and earn points at the same time:

http://www.parkplace.com/reservations_special.html

doc
May 15, 02, 7:46 am
Again, this time:

$79 -- Paris Las Vegas, June & July Special on 40 Dates

http://www.travelzoo.com/Top20.asp?id=10272902

TraveltheWorld
May 15, 02, 11:48 am
Also some other good deals until the end of June in this thread

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/004088.html

mypriceline.com
May 16, 02, 1:36 am
the $50 dining cert is FOR ONE RESTAURANT but requires 2 people! They give them away at the front desk. NO ONE USES THEM SINCE THEY ARE FOR A PLACE THAT CHARGES $35-40 an ENTREE. SO $80-50=30. ALSO that is just one course.. So if you were planning to spend $150 and you save $50 its good

MELA
Jun 10, 02, 6:27 pm
Can you earn Honors points at this location. I am Hilton Gold, what can I expect in regard to upgrades. Thanks.

W-N
Jun 10, 02, 6:44 pm
You will earn stay credit and points at Paris. Diamonds get upgraded to a suite or the concierge floor. Since you're Gold, nothing is guaranteed. It all depends on the person at the check-in desk and their occupancy rates for the nights you are staying.

RDY3238
Jun 10, 02, 7:07 pm
Stayed there last month - got points and miles. Asked for u/grade and was given strip view - (Well, big metal tower view) What IS that thing?

HH Gold VIP.

anr
Jun 10, 02, 11:29 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RDY3238:
(Well, big metal tower view) What IS that thing?
</font>

You mean the Eiffel Tower, Vegas style!

QuietLion
Jun 11, 02, 10:24 am
Look past the tower and see one of the most beautiful views in the world... the Bellagio fountains. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

MIKESILV
Jun 11, 02, 12:01 pm
Go to Lake Como in Italy and look past Bellagio THATS one of the most beautiful sights in the world.
Mike

The _Banking_Scot
Jun 11, 02, 12:50 pm
Of course at the real Lake Como, you do not earn points or miles http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Enjoy Las Vegas for what it is - not what it imagines itself to be..

Regards
TBS

yyzflyer
Jun 11, 02, 1:12 pm
Don't forget to check-in at the airport. They seem to have more understanding of Hilton status there. (At least this works for Bally's.)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The _Banking_Scot:
Enjoy Las Vegas for what it is - not what it imagines itself to be..

Regards
TBS</font>

The Banking Philosopher? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

TransWorldOne
Jun 11, 02, 6:08 pm
As a Gold, I was upgraded to the concierge floor. When trying to access the lounge my key would not open the door and the attendant denied me access without paying an exhorbinant fee.

ILuvParis
Aug 2, 02, 10:35 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MIKESILV:
Go to Lake Como in Italy and look past Bellagio THATS one of the most beautiful sights in the world.
Mike</font>

Ain't that the truth! Even more specatular, if that's possible, is the view from up in the hills above Lake Lugano.

sjunkerg
Sep 24, 02, 8:06 pm
What's the pool at the Paris hotel like and how does it compare to the other Vegas hotels. I just fancy going to las vegas and spending some quality time in the pool for a weekend and as a Hilton Diamond the Paris is the obvious choice.

ac/elite
Sep 24, 02, 9:47 pm
The pool is the most disappointing thing about this hotel. Not nearly as nice as the pool areas at the other newer hotels IMHO.

TraveltheWorld
Sep 25, 02, 1:49 am
I'd rate it average..

Here's a recent LA Times article that reviewed the Vegas pools.

http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-vegaspools15sep15002112.story

Paris got a B- rating and finished in 11th place.

tvelinsk
Sep 25, 02, 8:09 am
When we stayed in August the thing that we noticed about the pool was that it was FREEZING! The high temps in Vegas had been over 100 for at least a month, and I don't think it had dipped below 75 in that length of time, so I don't know how that water could be so cold! We were in for 5 minutes then had to give it up.

j379pa
Sep 25, 02, 9:37 am
But, I do recall a few hot tubs circling the pool.

Yes, nothing fancy, but sitting by the pool with the Eiffel Tower looming overhead has a certain charm...

JP

QuietLion
Sep 25, 02, 10:11 am
None of the HHonors resorts have pools that are anything special. Mandalay Bay has the best pool.

duxfan
Sep 25, 02, 10:43 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tvelinsk:
When we stayed in August the thing that we noticed about the pool was that it was FREEZING! </font>


I don't think the pool is heated, nor do they cover it in the evening to try and retain any of the heat generated during the day. The pool at Paris spends most of the morning in the shade due to the sun being behind the tower. You need to be up early to snag a chair on the sunny side of the pool. I thought the Aladdin had a much nicer pool....

FFSaver
Sep 25, 02, 11:36 am
The pool at the Paris LV hotel is very small compared to the other hotels such as the Ceasar's Palace or the Rio. If you are going there just for the pool, you better off chosing another hotel.

ontheroad
Sep 25, 02, 3:40 pm
If you stay at Paris, you are allowed to use the pool at Bally's. The pool is not as large, but it is nice. It was built more than 20 years ago, so it has a deep end where the water is much cooler. It also has more crevises on the side for being partially submerged while sipping frozen adult beverages.

Downside: walking to the pool can take 10 minutes.

BTW: the pool may close for the season soon.

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best
Nov 4, 02, 7:44 pm
1--Does Paris LV have an Executive Floor and Executive Lounge?
2--What do they generally do for HH Gold guest?

FlyByMike
Nov 4, 02, 8:11 pm
1) There is a lounge.
2) As the many posts on Paris Vegas indicate, don't expect anything as gold. Diamonds have choice of suite or lounge access.

Eugene
Nov 4, 02, 8:14 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FlyByMike:
Diamonds have choice of suite or lounge access.</font>

Sometimes... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

QuietLion
Nov 4, 02, 8:41 pm
The lounge is the best in town, with a nice variety of food both for breakfast and for cocktails, and complimentary wine in the evening. You might even consider paying for it... I believe it's around $30/day per room.

Bluehen1
Nov 4, 02, 11:02 pm
I just got home from Vegas and stayed at the Paris last night. I'm a Gold and booked on the Park Place site. At the place for notes, I enetered my HHonors number and requested an upgrade. I got one on the 18th floor facing Bally's (not the best view) but the room was HUGE. Wish I had stayed there mulitple nights.

No mention of a lounge to me. Didn't matter, I had to leave for the airport at 5 AM.

alfaman
Nov 4, 02, 11:52 pm
if you pay using amex card, they usually take ten or twenty bucks off or "upgrade you" to bellagio view (fountains) room..think they've done that for me twice

yyzflyer
Nov 5, 02, 1:04 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by QuietLion:
You might even consider paying for it... I believe it's around $30/day per room.</font>

Is this an option? I'm there in two weeks and it might be worth it. Breakfast is expensive at Paris.

J0HN
Nov 5, 02, 10:50 am
As a Gold expect little (maybe a nice view), but definitely ask for a suite or lounge access (I have received both a few times). How busy they are will have an impact on what you receive. The concierge lounge is known as the Le Rendez-vous lounge, and as mentioned, is very nice.

QuietLion
Nov 5, 02, 11:43 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yyzflyer:
Is this an option? I'm there in two weeks and it might be worth it. Breakfast is expensive at Paris.</font>

There is a sign outside the lounge listing the price. I get complimentary access so I haven't tried to pay for it but I imagine you just ask when you check in.

best
Nov 5, 02, 5:05 pm
Thank you all for the good to the point info.
Amazing rate structure? Friday and Saturday cheapest rate of $180 goes to $65 on Sunday! What a business!

MisterNice
Nov 5, 02, 8:58 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by QuietLion:
The lounge is the best in town, with a nice variety of food both for breakfast and for cocktails, and complimentary wine in the evening. You might even consider paying for it... I believe it's around $30/day per room.</font>

During Sept 2002 hey had self-serve red wine, white wine and beer on the counter by the coffee urn. For champagne ask the concierge as it is kept in the back. Hard liquor was not available in the lounge.

MisterNice

ILuvParis
Nov 6, 02, 10:17 am
This was timely, I'll be there Friday night. I'm told that the thing to do is check in at the Paris desk at the airport, but alas, I won't arrive until the desk at the airport closes.

milesrus
Nov 19, 02, 5:46 pm
Heard today that only the Las Vegas Hilton is accepting awards as the Paris dropped out of the program in June. Is this correct?

Eugene
Nov 19, 02, 6:03 pm
Not exactly. See this thread: Paris Las Vegas reward (http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ftpasttalk_forum/Forum57/HTML/002735.html). While the amount of points required is now down to 85,000 from 100,000, my recommendation in the thread above still stands - not a good value for a two-night award.

Jim90068
Nov 19, 02, 7:52 pm
While the advance rates for a weekend night were $200 and above, last Friday, same day reservations could be had for the weekend at $153. a night.

Not a good place to redeem awards.

kthan
Nov 24, 02, 8:07 pm
I found a lot of useful information about Paris in Vegas but still got some questions for my upcoming DEC visit at Paris.

First, I (gold) will bring my family (Mom, wife, and a kid). Can I get any suite upgrade with two double(or queen) beds at Paris? Looks like there is no suite with two beds. If this is the case, can I accept the upgrade first and request a rollaway bed? Do I have to pay any additional charge for it? If this option is not that good, do I have to try Bally's suite with two beds? Is a suite in Bally's comparable to that of Paris?

Second, I will stay there for 3 nights. In order to get stay credits and bonus points for each night, can I make make three reservations under my name (or me, my wife and me in turn) for each night and request to keep the same room by repeating check-out and check-in at the front desk each day? Does anyone have any experience like this?

Thank you for your help in advance.

freeupgrade
Nov 25, 02, 1:55 am
Personally, I do not recommend this hotel. I was there last May, and found the staff to be very rude on numerous occasions, service was terrible, etc. and frankly, management could care less there.

I honestly would rethink staying there.

We checked out after 1 night and went to the Venetian, where the staff was very kind and we enjoyed it a lot.

You have been warned. ))

ontheroad
Nov 25, 02, 7:28 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">First, I (gold) will bring my family (Mom, wife, and a kid). Can I get any suite upgrade with two double(or queen) beds at Paris? Looks like there is no suite with two beds. If this is the case, can I accept the upgrade first and request a rollaway bed? Do I have to pay any additional charge for it? </font> HHonors members get low priority at this gambling joint. First dibs always goes to casino guests, i.e. those high rollers that get rooms for free. There are no suites with double beds in Paris.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">If this option is not that good, do I have to try Bally's suite with two beds? Is a suite in Bally's comparable to that of Paris?</font> Bally's rooms tend to be larger than those in Paris, and there are plenty of suites. Because the gamblers like the newer property, you are more likely to get an upgrade in Paris. I don't know if there are suites with double beds in Bally's.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Second, I will stay there for 3 nights. In order to get stay credits and bonus points for each night, can I make make three reservations under my name (or me, my wife and me in turn) for each night and request to keep the same room by repeating check-out and check-in at the front desk each day? Does anyone have any experience like this?</font>
Under HHonors rules, you would receive credit for only one stay if you check-in and check-out of the same hotel on consecutive days. It might work with your wife receiving credit if she has a different HHonors number, however I don't recommend this with a hotel this large.

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[This message has been edited by ontheroad (edited 11-25-2002).]

Jim90068
Nov 25, 02, 9:13 pm
Don't expect anything from the Paris expect points and miles.
period.

Bluehen1
Nov 25, 02, 9:19 pm
Well, have to say that the last statement was a load of crap. I stayed at Paris earlier this month, booked it on http://www.parislv.com and put in my HHonors number and requested an upgrade to a suite. Got to the hotel and got the upgrade into a HUGE room with a decent view. The woman who checked me in was pleased that I knew that I could get points from them and I told her that there would be many more like me. I also got a coupon book with tons of discounts.

MisterAviator
Nov 25, 02, 9:51 pm
I too would suggest The Venetian as a far far better hotel than Paris. Every room at the Venetian is a suite.
Your status in Las Vegas depends entirely on how much you gamble. High rollers get the upgrades, the rest of us are shown special attention only when the hotel is not crowded. If you're thinking about checking in and out to get multiple credit for a single 3-night stay, you don't sound like a high roller; you sound more like a cheater, and we all know what the casinos think of cheaters! Good luck.

otisk
Nov 25, 02, 10:25 pm
Just stayed at Paris last night. Staying on a $69/night stay--asked if I could get a room that looked out onto the Bellagio fountains and the guy said they didn't have any but since I was Hilton Gold he could give me a Calais suite overlooking the fountains. Very nice room with 2 bathrooms, separate bedroom with groovy tv that popped out of a piece of furniture, living room area with round dining table with chandelier over the table and bar. It was a great room.

yyzflyer
Nov 25, 02, 11:53 pm
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/005995.html

lintemut
Dec 3, 02, 8:13 am
I stayed at this hotel in May and was treated well. At the time I didn't know they participated in HHonors and casually asked if they gave points in any frequent traveler program.

The check in person graciously explained their participation and upgraded me to a suite.

I stayed at the Venetian in 2001 and would consider the Paris Suite superior to the suite I had at the Venetian. That being said I loved both hotels and would return to either of them in a heartbeat, though I would probably lean toward the Paris as I get HHonors points for the stay.

The staff at the Paris that I encountered were friendly and helpful.

swise
Dec 3, 02, 7:55 pm
We stayed at the Paris in September and had a great time. Service was very good. We had separate stays: one on Friday and one on Sunday. We were upgraded to suites on both nights (two different kinds). The Calais suite we had was similar to that earlier described, except with a sofa and coffee table. The other suite (forgot the name of it) had instead one bathroom, but it was enormous, with a tub similar but slightly bigger than that in Calais, bidet, separate shower, walk-in closet, and spacious dressing area with vanity. The bathroom was bigger than most standard hotel rooms.

Incidently, we called the Diamond Desk to place our reservation, used points for both stays, received an upgrade and access to the concierge lounge. We also got credit for the stay, both with HHonors and with our designated airline.

My boyfriend is diamond. I gambled a total of $2 during our trip and lost it all. We checked in at the regular reception desk, at the hotel.


[This message has been edited by swise (edited 12-04-2002).]

Jim90068
Dec 4, 02, 1:25 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Bluehen1:
Well, have to say that the last statement was a load of crap. I stayed at Paris earlier this month, booked it on http://www.parislv.com and put in my HHonors number and requested an upgrade to a suite. Got to the hotel and got the upgrade into a HUGE room with a decent view. The woman who checked me in was pleased that I knew that I could get points from them and I told her that there would be many more like me. I also got a coupon book with tons of discounts.</font>

I was just passing on what I was told when I checked in at the Paris. It wasn't my personal opinion or statement, just the facts.

It may be that on quiet weekends ( which are few) or Sunday through Thursday, that the Paris may pass on some perks, but I will tell you I received NONE, and no consideration for my Gold status, and was told that there was none.

[This message has been edited by Jim90068 (edited 12-04-2002).]

jkzahn
Dec 5, 02, 8:27 am
I just stayed on a Wednesday and Thursday night (11/20-11/21). Checked in at airport - nice folks BUT no benefits - he said they "aren't really a Hilton hotel." No upgrade. No breakfast.

That said, it was a nice hotel, got a good rate, and the points and Vegas bonus posted immediately.

FlyerAl
Dec 5, 02, 10:49 pm
I've had many stays at Bally's and Paris this past year and I've never gotten anything better than a "renovated" room when checking in at the airport. It's true that VIP gamblers get first dibs on suites. They only give them away to regular guests if it's not busy. I'm usually able to get a jacuzzi suite (on a weeknight when it's less busy) because I made friends with someone at the VIP department http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

HK-UMICH
Dec 5, 02, 11:19 pm
back from Paris-LV for stay Wed-Fri (3 nights) of Thanksgiving holiday:

1. miles: yes
2. UG: Asked and somehow "cheated" yes. My friend (no status but check-in my room with my HH#, got 23/F non-strip view. when I check in with my card (actually for the room under my sister's name), I asked for UG and he say no at first and offer me another room on 23/F, then he offered me 14/F with a "view". I took the view.

goto my room and discovered it is at the end of the wing with the window 90-degree from all other room "with view", so basically I have the "view" when I stuck my head touching the window and "peek" to the Bellegio's fountain. (BTW, it is Room 1425, I think 1425P is the same situation so beware when they offer you a "P" room, in which some of them at real suites)

Also, from the fire-exit map, I discovered that this room is actually smaller than typical room. So I would say he upgraded me to a "priceline" sort of room.

Well... at least he is only cheating, not lying, I still can "peek" the view.

3. Extended Check-out: First offer: "1pm and further extension with my Casio Host", I asked "Anyway you can get further... I do only little gamble", she double check with someone in the office and offered the typical 3pm rule... GOOD!

HONESTLY: maybe basied with my architecture/Urban Design study, but I found Paris is too cheezzy and over-done with the theme, the room is just OK. If I want a good and cheap room, I think I will go MGM next time. If I want real perk, I will pay for Bellagio (at least this is what I want to bring my Mum when she visit me).

Oh.. BTW I paid about $150-190 per night since this is a thanksgiving holiday. Bally's always get some $10-20 cheaper than Paris but I never stayed in Bally.


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Steve B
Dec 7, 02, 8:21 pm
Maybe I'm just easily pleased but for 69.00 per night we got a nice room on a high floor overlooking the Bellagio fountains and the Eifel tower.....not to mention the rest of the Strip. Here in Boston 69.00 gets you a small room in an Econolodge.


PS For a cheap room recommendation go to the Orleans where for 30.00 you get a large room, two dinner buffet tickets and a funbook that gives you six free drinks per person. What a town.

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nsx
Jan 3, 03, 10:56 pm
As a Gold, I got a nice room above the pool (view of the Eiffel Tower and Bellagio fountains), but no way would they give me lounge access. Based on this and other postings, I believe that you will only get lounge access as Gold only as an exception and only if the hotel's occupancy is low. This stay was mid-week, but the hotel was nearly full.

After reading about it here, I got breakfast at the cafe in the Orleans. $1.99 for excellent steak, eggs, hash browns, and toast. Midnight to 7 AM only, which works fine if travel has messed up your body clock.

I also used a free night award from Marriott's Take 2 at the Residence Inn near Hughes Center. They served a fine breakfast there, and a light dinner as well (Monday through Thursday only). I was most impressed, and grateful that the RI let me use the weekend coupon on a weekday.

QuietLion
Jan 4, 03, 12:05 am
Lounge access at Paris is only $30/night, well worth it for two people if you're going to use it. They have an excellent cold breakfast spread including lox and cheese and for cocktail hour complimentary wine and hot snacks.

QL

nsx
Jan 4, 03, 1:09 am
Yeah, but they wanted $60 per night for 4 people. And the room was only $69 to start with.

jspatchwork
Feb 17, 03, 1:39 pm
I had booked a room for Paris Las Vegas last week. I noticed today I was already charged an Advance Deposit fee to the credit card I used to book the room. This wasn't listed in any of the terms on the site.

Anyone familiar with Paris LV? What if I wanted to cancel ... would I get credit?

NJDavid
Feb 17, 03, 1:41 pm
When the Paris LV property left the Hilton on-line booking engine and began using their own site exclusively, they began enforcing a 1st night deposit policy.

I've never had a problem getting an automatic refund when cancelled, but I'd keep an eye on it to be sure it gets credited of you do cancel.

edg1
Feb 17, 03, 2:06 pm
I have always had a one night deposit charged to my CC when I booked at either Paris or Ballys. As long as you cancel within thier guidelines (I believe it is outside of 72 hours prior to arrival), you will get your deposit back.

suzieq
Feb 17, 03, 3:10 pm
I've found most Vegas Hotels charge in advance, and if one does cancel per the facility's rules, there is a refund issued.

Crys68
Mar 7, 03, 9:33 pm
I am new to all this but am trying to figure out the best bang for my buck, regarding the points I am accumulating. I thought i saw some posts on here regarding people using their rewards to stay at some of the nicer hotels in Vegas, ie. Paris, etc. When I put Las Vegas into the Hotel search on the Hilton site, those hotels don't get pulled up..Can anyone put me in the right direction.

thanks :-))

edg1
Mar 7, 03, 9:40 pm
Crys68,

Welcome to flyertalk!

Paris is owned by Parkplace entertainment which is a spin-off of Hilton. You can't book from the Hilton website. If you use the search function on the hilton topic on Paris Las Vegas, you will find lots of info from other FTers on this property

W-N
Mar 8, 03, 5:03 pm
You can only earn points at Paris, not redeem them for award stays.

Eugene
Mar 9, 03, 9:29 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by W-N:
You can only earn points at Paris, not redeem them for award stays. </font>

That's not quite true.

Paris Las Vegas Tour Eiffel
Two free nights for two of Las Vegas excitement, Paris-style*

In addition to your two-nights' accommodations, you and a guest will enjoy two tickets to the Eiffel Tower Tour, $50 in dining certificates valid at select restaurants, and one buffet breakfast for two in Le Village Buffet.

*Valid Sunday through Thursday only

HHonors points: 85,000
Reward Code: LSPAR

Huge waste of points, IMO.

xyzzy
Mar 11, 03, 7:44 pm
When booking this hotel at its own web site there is *no* mention whatsoever of HH and no place to put your HH number. Can this only be added to a reservation when checking in? I get the part about checking in at the airport...

tvelinsk
Mar 12, 03, 7:16 am
Put a note with your HHonors number in the "comments" section of the reservation form. This has worked for me every time at Paris, Flamingo, and LV Hilton.

JHunter
Mar 12, 03, 11:30 am
&lt;deleted&gt; Didn't realize this thread was past its sell-by date.

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welookgood.com
Mar 30, 03, 8:10 pm
Can u use rewards pts for the Hilton Paris LV?

BobCharlap
Mar 30, 03, 8:30 pm
Why would anybody want to stay in Las Vegas for six nights!

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nako
Mar 30, 03, 8:36 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BobCharlap:
Why would anybody want to stay in Las Vegas for six nights!

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That's irrelevant. The answer to the question, though, is no - you can earn there, but not redeem a GLON.

Mike

welookgood.com
Mar 30, 03, 9:07 pm
I just did 17 days in Cancun, why not 6 in Las Vegas :-)

Besides last yr did 8 days. As long as u r Hilton Gold or above u get free spa every day, lay out by the pool. I don't gamble (as opposed to my friends who have no problem dropping a few grand) but do vegas for the weather, pool, and nitelife

Andy100
Mar 31, 03, 10:20 am
usually vegas rooms are soo cheap that its a waste of points to do a GLON there. unless you have a LOT of points I guess...

The _Banking_Scot
Mar 31, 03, 11:27 am
Hi,

You cannot use points ( or GLON) at the Paris LV because it is not a Hilton per se. It is a Park Place Entertainment Property ( like Bally's, Flamingo etc).You can earn points though.

I think tht you CAN use a GLON or Points at the LV Hilton ( still a PPE property).

I'm not sure about using the points at the HGVC Hilton or FLamingo.

If staying during the summer I would probably save my points and look for good deals elsewhere in LV ( ie Mandalay Bay for $99 per night)

Regards
TBS

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nako
Mar 31, 03, 1:38 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by The _Banking_Scot:
Hi,
I think tht you CAN use a GLON or Points at the LV Hilton ( still a PPE property).

I'm not sure about using the points at the HGVC Hilton or FLamingo.
</font>

You can redeem awards for the Hilton-branded PPE properties in Reno and Las Vegas. LV is Select/Cat 3and Reno is Select/Cat 2.

As for the Flamingo and HGVC, I'm don't believe that you can.

Mike

adgtravel
Apr 28, 03, 9:34 am
Has anyone stayed at the Paris Vegas after Jan 03? We are Hhonors diamond, and stayed there in Jan and were upgraded to a beautiful suite and given access to the lounge. I am trying to make a reservation for July, and was told no more lounge access for hilton diamonds! Is this really true? Lounge access is the main reason we stay here. What is the next best Hilton in Vegas? Thanks

hhonorsjunkie
Apr 28, 03, 9:45 am
I was just there 2 weeks ago during a very busy Easter & Spring Break for a few days. I checked in at the airport. As a Diamond I was given a preferred view facing the Eiffel tower and the Bellagio fountains. I was also given lounge access for no additional charge. The lounge was open in the mornings and the evenings. The food was wonderful and filling (pasteries, fresh fruit and incredible desserts). I never needed to buy breakfast or dinner since we were so full from the lounge food.

My only "little" problems was that the airport check-in didn't properly put the lounge access on my room keys. This was quickly and easily solved with a trip downstairs to the check in area.

Have fun!

MrPaul0722
Apr 28, 03, 11:05 am
Forgive my ignorance, but is Paris in Vegas a Hilton property? Have always stayed at the Las Vegas Hilton as a Diamond... would like to stay at Paris with these perks.

FlyByMike
Apr 28, 03, 1:13 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MrPaul0722:
Forgive my ignorance, but is Paris in Vegas a Hilton property?</font>

It is a Park Place Entertainment property that gives Hilton points and perks. Search and you'll find lots of threads.

AkWxMan
Apr 28, 03, 7:16 pm
I was also at Paris over Easter weekend (thu-mon stay). Checked in at the airport, as suggested in previous posts. The representative there was not sure about Diamond upgrades/perks at Paris, but called and quickly found out. No strip view rooms or suites available at that time, but did get lounge access. Free soft beverages at the lounge...have to pay nasty prices for alcoholic beverages during the evening happy hour. Food was decent.

The following morning (fri) I checked with the front desk, and received an upgrade to one of the LeMans suites. No view, but nice suite! Also received one of their gold VIP room cards, which allowed line passes to all the restaurants (except Mon Ami Gabi, and I assume Eiffel Tower restaurant). Was also pleasantly surprised to get a line pass and no cover charge on saturday night for their new ultra bar 'Risque' after asking the host.

Much better than the perks received over at the LV Hilton on my prior visits, IMHO.

QuietLion
Apr 29, 03, 12:34 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AkWxMan:
have to pay nasty prices for alcoholic beverages during the evening happy hour. </font>

$4 is a "nasty" price? Where do you usually buy your drinks? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

QL

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Arcolaio99
Apr 29, 03, 9:44 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by QuietLion:
$4 is a "nasty" price? Where do you usually buy you drinks? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

QL</font>

$4 is like free drinks to me!!!

AkWxMan
Apr 29, 03, 11:37 am
Heh...Guess I was comparing to the free drinks (albeit lesser quality) at other lounges http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Paul556
Apr 29, 03, 5:17 pm
You guys talk about the Paris and LV Hilton. Has anyone stayed at Bally's this year? Same treatment as the other hotels? Upgrade and loungue access?

I am a Diamond Vip and I will be there mid May for my bachelor party.

Should be a blast! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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edg1
Apr 29, 03, 7:34 pm
Diamond - Stayed at Paris in March during a busy weekend (1st weekend of NCAA basketball tournament). Upgraded to a Jr. Suite (one room, but big and also big bathroom with jacuzzi tub), and also given lounge access.

BL1KITW
Apr 30, 03, 2:16 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Paul556:
Has anyone stayed at Bally's this year?
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In January, I stayed one night at the Paris and one night at Bally's. Since I needed a room with two double beds, I didn't get a suite at either property but did receive lounge access at both. Bally's lounge breakfast is good but Paris is outstanding. Watch your credit card statement after checkout. Bally's charged my credit card for two lounge passes. This was reversed with a call to the accounting department. You might want to be certain that the CSR who checks you in (at the airport) notes in your record that the lounge passes were a comp. That's what got the charge reversed for me without a fight.



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QuietLion
Apr 30, 03, 10:23 am
I just verified the drink prices at the Paris lounge. It's $4 for beer and wine, $6 for cocktails. You pour your own so...

QL

Arcolaio99
Apr 30, 03, 10:48 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by QuietLion:
I just verified the drink prices at the Paris lounge. It's $4 for beer and wine, $6 for cocktails. You pour your own so...

QL</font>

Can't beat that. At least I will get some alcohol in my drink!!

yyzflyer
Apr 30, 03, 3:22 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by QuietLion:
I just verified the drink prices at the Paris lounge. It's $4 for beer and wine, $6 for cocktails. You pour your own so...

QL</font>

The beer and wine were complimentary only a few months ago. Cocktails were not offered. Are we talking about the same lounge?

korea71
May 1, 03, 5:40 pm
Looking for the Standard Operating Procedure for how a HH Diamond should go about booking a stay at the Paris Las Vegas.

This will be a revenue "paid" stay

Will I get "bennies" if I book a package on the hotel's website?

Do I need to call HH to make a res there to receive any bennies?

As for the "bennies", as a Diamond, all I care about is lounge access and breakfast in addition to HH points and stay credits. Suite UG would be nice but not necessary as I can gamble enough to get comped one of those. Thanks to other FTers, I already know about checking in at the airport. Thanks

Eugene
May 1, 03, 6:02 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by korea71:
Do I need to call HH to make a res there to receive any bennies?</font>

Park Place Entertainment properties (including Paris, Bally's, etc.) can not be booked through HH. You need to do it either by calling the hotel directly, or through their web site, or through a third party.

Checking at the airport would provide for the best chances to get upgrade and/or lounge access.

hhonorsjunkie
May 1, 03, 9:15 pm
I booked my most recent stay at the Paris online through their site. I made an additional call to add my Hhonors number and note that I was a Diamond on the reservation. I checked in at the airport and showed them my card and they gave me a preferred view room and said that they would key me for the lounge. However, when I tried using the elevator for the lounge it didn't work. I just went down to the lobby and they corrected my key there. My stay posted about a week after my return home.

Have a great time!

BL1KITW
May 2, 03, 4:26 am
I always book at www.parislv.com (http://www.parislv.com) and get Diamond benefits when checking in at the airport. On the web site, check the Hot Rates calendar (currently $95 for many weeknights) and also check the Special Offers (starting at $79 on weeknights). There are several packages available that may or may not be a bargain for you depending on what you plan on doing other than gaming. I signed up for the web mailing list and recently received an offer by snail mail for $69 a night on selected dates thru July 24 on the Ooh-La-La rate. This is one French place I'm not boycotting.

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Bluehen1
May 2, 03, 10:31 am
I booked on the website for a stay back in November. I didn't check in at the airport since I came in on a Saturday and stayed at the Hampton Inn Tropicana that night. However, there should be a comment block on the site when you make a reservation. I put in a note that I was a HHonors Gold (at that time) and that I would like upgraded accomodations. They upgraded me to a mini-suite with a view facing Bally's. It was just about the biggest room I've ever been in. It was too bad that I was there for only one night, but since I paid $79 for the night, you can bet I wasn't complaining. Didn't even worry about the lounge because I had to check out early Monday morning to catch my flights home.

QuietLion
May 2, 03, 3:30 pm
Yes, this is a recent change. The price has also been raised to $35 for two persons per day, but Diamonds have reported free access. (Of course, RFB casino guests also get free access.)

QL

xyzzy
May 3, 03, 9:38 pm
Can someone email me the Diamond desk telephone number? I'll be at the Paris LV this week and that stay will push me into Diamond territory. I'd like to see if they'll be nice enough to bump me up prior to my stay.

I assume from what I've read that Paris doesn't do much for Gold members...

PersonalCareChemist
May 4, 03, 6:23 pm
I will be there later in the year for the Hooters 20th Anniversity celebration. I called and was told that Diamond's get a room upgrade and free access to the lounge.

uvajonw
May 9, 03, 10:21 am
How much should I expect to pay and where should I book the reservation? Should I call the hotel, use their website, Travelocity, or Hotels.com?

yyzflyer
May 9, 03, 10:26 am
Unless you get an offer directly from them, I've usually found the best rates on their proprietary website. All the Park Place sites have a nice calendar feature with lowest and package rates that allows you to "cherry-pick" your dates. Keep checking even after making your initial reservation - I just had an upcoming stay drop by $20 and they're happy to adjust if you call in advance.

uvajonw
May 9, 03, 10:40 am
I just checked on their website. I am staying October 9-13 over Culumbus Day Weekend. The rates were $109, $149, $149, $149. Are these good?

yyzflyer
May 9, 03, 11:48 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by uvajonw:
I just checked on their website. I am staying October 9-13 over Culumbus Day Weekend. The rates were $109, $149, $149, $149. Are these good? </font>

If you're not a Vegas regular, weekends are always more expensive - add a little more for a holiday weekend. With that in mind these rates don't seem too bad. If they're within your budget book them, then monitor the site to see if they drop. If they drop, call, if they go up you may have a bargain. You can always cancel and get your deposit back if you find somewhere else more to your liking.

Edited to add cancel info.



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Paul556
May 9, 03, 8:52 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by uvajonw:
I just checked on their website. I am staying October 9-13 over Culumbus Day Weekend. The rates were $109, $149, $149, $149. Are these good? </font>

A word to the wise -- book these rates. You can always cancel them. That way you have a semi-decent rate but you can check back to see if they drop a little. I would even call the hotel directly to see if they are offering any packages over those days.



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Rut Dog
May 10, 03, 11:22 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yyzflyer:
If you're not a Vegas regular, weekends are always more expensive</font>Are you implying that "regulars" can get better rates somehow?

J0HN
May 10, 03, 12:09 pm
"regular" = "gambler" Paris (and all other Vegas casinos) send out offers to people that belong to their slot/table club. The more you play the better the offer (although just signing up may generate some offers).


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:
Originally posted by yyzflyer:
If you're not a Vegas regular, weekends are always more expensive</font>Are you implying that "regulars" can get better rates somehow?

korea71
May 10, 03, 2:48 pm
If you play 4 hours a day with a minimum bet of $25 a hand, you can be comped your room and just about everything you can charge to your room. MAJOR CAVEAT! Do not gamble just to receive comps. That is just a recipe for disaster. If you are going to gamble anyway, you might as well get something for it. My 2 cents(chips) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

jbh11
May 11, 03, 6:08 am
If the weekend price is steeper than you want for a Sat. arrival, try the Doubletree for Sat. night -- off strip, but actually fairly pleasant. Switch on Sunday to Paris when the rates go down and enjoy a double double dip of miles!

yyzflyer
May 11, 03, 7:59 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:
Originally posted by yyzflyer:
If you're not a Vegas regular, weekends are always more expensive</font>Are you implying that "regulars" can get better rates somehow?



Well actually I just meant that an infrequent visitor to Vegas might not be aware that weekend hotel rates can be up to double those of Sunday-Thursday, however JOHN makes a valid point. We are hardly high rollers, but frequent the same hotels and receive discount offers all the time. The hotels seemed to have "raised the bar" on complete comps, but we regularly get postcards in the mail offering rates like $49 a night at quality hotels like Treasure Island. Our upcoming stay at Paris will average $65 a night with a bunch of coupons for meals, etc. thrown in.

yyzflyer
May 11, 03, 8:01 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jbh11:
If the weekend price is steeper than you want for a Sat. arrival, try the Doubletree for Sat. night -- off strip, but actually fairly pleasant. Switch on Sunday to Paris when the rates go down and enjoy a double double dip of miles!</font>

Also very good advice - part of my standard procedure, especially if faced with a late-arriving flight.

Rut Dog
May 11, 03, 2:17 pm
RE: Gambling for Comps

This is really interesting, and I've only recently taken an interest in casino gambling, in particular Texas Hold-em, so thank you for the info, JOHN and Korea.

K, when you say "4 hours a day with a minimum bet of $25 a hand", are you referring to poker? Black-jack? Or some other casino games?

And do you have to get anyone's attention to earn the comp? Or is the attention automatic, as in Ocean's 11, "there's always somebody watching"?

Any tips are very welcome to this casino greenhorn.

blackjack-21
May 11, 03, 3:20 pm
Rut Dog,

Be sure to sign up for the casino's players card when you arrive, and before you play. If you're playing at the tables, give it to the dealer when you buy in, and ask to get rated on your play. The length of play, and size of your bets determines the comps that may be available to you for the current, or future trips. If you play the slots, be sure to insert the players card in the slot machine reader, to get the credit for your play. This will also take into account the length of play, and your bets. Signing up for the cards is free, and some of the cards (like the Park Place "Connections" card) can be used at all of the Park Place hotels--Ballys, Paris, Caesars,
Flamingo, Las Vegas Hilton. Other hotel casinos have their cards also linked to other casinos. MGM, Mandalay each have their own groupings. Harrahs Total Rewards cards can be used at any Harrahs in the U.S. for point tracking. In any case, be sure to sign up for the players cards, as, at the very least, that will put you on their mailing lists for some good email and snail mail offers.
Re: your question about the $25 bets--most LV casinos on the Strip won't even bother rating you for any bets under $25 at the tables. This applies to any of the table games, blackjack, roulette, craps, etc. Exceptions may be some of the smaller casinos, and some of those downtown.
And as K71 suggests--don't just play for the comps. Play for the enjoyment, and fun. And, hopefully, the profits. The comps are just a little "extra" for playing.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck!!!

bj-21.

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korea71
May 11, 03, 4:56 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by blackjack-21:
Rut Dog,

Be sure to sign up for the casino's players card when you arrive, and before you play. If you're playing at the tables, give it to the dealer when you buy in, and ask to get rated on your play. The length of play, and size of your bets determines the comps that may be available to you for the current, or future trips. If you play the slots, be sure to insert the players card in the slot machine reader, to get the credit for your play. This will also take into account the length of play, and your bets. Signing up for the cards is free, and some of the cards (like the Park Place "Connections" card) can be used at all of the Park Place hotels--Ballys, Paris, Caesars,
Flamingo, Las Vegas Hilton. Other hotel casinos have their cards also linked to other casinos. MGM, Mandalay each have their own groupings. Harrahs Total Rewards cards can be used at any Harrahs in the U.S. for point tracking. In any case, be sure to sign up for the players cards, as, at the very least, that will put you on their mailing lists for some good email and snail mail offers.
Re: your question about the $25 bets--most LV casinos on the Strip won't even bother rating you for any bets under $25 at the tables. This applies to any of the table games, blackjack, roulette, craps, etc. Exceptions may be some of the smaller casinos, and some of those downtown.
And as K71 suggests--don't just play for the comps. Play for the enjoyment, and fun. And, hopefully, the profits. The comps are just a little "extra" for playing.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck!!!

bj-21.

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Also don't forget to ask for a line pass for the buffets from your casino host. This gets you no waiting in line to eat. Worth $$$$ when you are hungry. I even had show tickets billed to my room. See your casino host on your last day and he will look at your account. He will tell you what they will comp. They can comp everything but tips. I even got some cash back at the end of the trip.(wife played some slots) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif As always, play with your head, not above it.

Craps Rules!

NJDavid
May 11, 03, 7:55 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by yyzflyer:
The hotels seemed to have "raised the bar" on complete comps, but we regularly get postcards in the mail offering rates like $49 a night at quality hotels like Treasure Island. Our upcoming stay at Paris will average $65 a night with a bunch of coupons for meals, etc. thrown in.</font>

A bit off-topic, but I have noticed this "raising the bar" myself, and I'm glad it's not just me.

I used to get a 2 night total comp offer every two months thru last year. Early this year it switched to comp only at Ballys, not Paris. Then it became 1 night not 2...Their latest is even worse.

I thought my play was at almost the same level as last year, and I'm afraid they're just getting stingier with comps.

Any other Ballys/Paris regulars getting the same treatment?

QuietLion
May 11, 03, 8:09 pm
To answer several questions above:

1) Comps for poker are minimal. You might get an occasional buffet.

2) In addition to tips, it's difficult to get phone calls or movies comped.

3) Most places around town have tightened up comps for craps. Perhaps there is a greater percentage of smarter players now.

QL

MrPaul0722
May 12, 03, 12:19 am
Don't expect the same rules for Texas Hold 'Em players (poker). The casinos do not make that much money on these games since the players are really playing against each other and the casino merely gets a cut. I am pretty sure the time limits for poker players are double if not more than the table gamblers. There is one advise... if you play poker, feel free to leave for long periods without letting the room supervisor know. Your money is safe on the table and your time will continue to accrue.

xyzzy
May 12, 03, 7:49 pm
I stayed at Paris LV last week. As a gold all I got was a front-facing room. I asked and was told (as noted by others) that they only give lounge access/concierge floor rooms to diamonds.

I did check in at the airport, BTW. It was a MUCH shorter line.

adgtravel
May 13, 03, 9:43 am
Thanks everybody for great info, hopefully we will get view and lounge access as diamond!

askias
May 14, 03, 2:08 pm
Stayed there for one night on Sunday 5/11. I am HH Gold and I did get upgraded to a suite. The valet parking situation is horrible, though.

redbeard911
May 14, 03, 3:45 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by askias:
Stayed there for one night on Sunday 5/11. I am HH Gold and I did get upgraded to a suite. The valet parking situation is horrible, though.</font>

Don't drive in Vegas!

PersonalCareChemist
May 16, 03, 9:37 am
I was there last week and found some interesting experiences. First, I checked in at the airport at 11 pm...a big mistake. They gave me a room, a non-suite smoking room. I had reserved a non-smoking room but was told they were all gone. If I wanted a non-smoking room, I was told that I needed to call the day of arrival. Also, they could not give me a key, the machine was broken. I was directed to get the key at the hotel. Also, you have to take your bags to the hotel. There is no transfer service. Conclusion--you might want to by-pass the airport check-in. I flashed the Diamond Card and the Hilton VISA (and my recently chemically-whitened teeth) but no luck.

At the hotel, the experience was better. I explained the key situation and this was news to them. When I showed my Diamond Card, a non-smoking suite was offered. However, no access to the lounge was provided. They were unaware of this rule. Is it a rule?

Overall, Paris is a nice property in the better part of the strip. I really like the cocktail service provider uniforms. Luckily, the gals were not authenic French women. That is, no bushes under their arms and them seemed to have bathed recently.

Did anyone notice the absence of French flags? Seems like they really went out of their way to hoist as many of the US flags as possible.

Westcoaster
May 16, 03, 11:39 am
I know this is off on a bit of a tangent, but I also had a poor experience using the airport checkin for the LV Hilton. I was nice as can be but the counter agent was rude and didn't know about Diamond benefits. Fortunately, I got treated much better at the hotel itself. The front desk and VIP Services staff there were great.

Checking in at the airport may not always net the best results.

hhonorsjunkie
May 16, 03, 3:29 pm
Let's just say that the Paris is inconsistent! I was there last week for one night. I booked two rooms, checked in at the airport, flashed my diamond card, and received one very nice suite and one regular room on the lounge floor. Also received free lounge access for both rooms.

xyzzy
May 18, 03, 12:01 pm
I've noted the rates on an upcoming planned stay at Paris LV are lower via Expedia than via booking with Paris directly. Can I expect HH points/stay credits if I book via Expedia (assuming I charge stuff to my room)? Can I expect an upgrade?

xyzzy
May 19, 03, 12:19 pm
Bumpety bump...

NJDavid
May 19, 03, 6:38 pm
At Park Place properties, check in at the airport, get your HH number in the res, and you're fine. They can't penalize you for not booking on Hilton's website if you can't book it there.

This hasn't changed yet. If it does, watch out for the exit of lots of diamonds. I think they know that.

xyzzy
May 19, 03, 9:26 pm
I know that I can't book this on the Hilton web site, but if I book via Expedia and it's essentially a prepaid stay will ParkPlace give me points/upgrades? I guess so. Has anyone tried this?

I'll be there Monday-&gt;Saturday. The Expedia rate for Mon-&gt;Thu is $40/night lower than the Paris direct rate, but you can't book Friday w/o Saturday via Expedia. If I have two different reservations (Expedia Mon-&gt;Fri and direct Paris Fri-&gt;Sat) will they let me combine them at check-in or should I wait until after I check in to tell them about the last night. I'd rather not have to switch rooms.

Advice?

adgtravel
Jun 12, 03, 4:08 pm
Has anyone booked this special? It runs from May to July, Sun-Thurs 69$. It talks about upgrading to lounge level, I was told that would be 20$ more a night, BUT did not include use of lounge! That would be 35$ a night more! I thought lounge level meant you could use the lounge! If anyone has booked this upgrade, let me know if you could use lounge. Are any Diamonds still getting comped use of lounge? Thanks

xyzzy
Jun 12, 03, 7:01 pm
I'll be there next week and I'll report on what happens. I'm going for the big room first, lounge access isn't as important but it would be nice. I've not seen any info on a package with this name, though. Care to share the link? $69 is less than I'll be paying unless I change to a different rate...

hhonorsjunkie
Jun 12, 03, 7:31 pm
I stayed there in April and did get to use the lounge as a Diamond. I've looked everywhere and can't find that $69 rate that you're mentioning. Can you please pass on the code or link. Thank you!

Westcoaster
Jun 12, 03, 8:15 pm
The Ooh-La-La offer I got in the mail says that it is non-transferable. That said, if you want to give it a try the phone number is 1-888-266-5487. It says to mention offer MPINAT5. When I've called on similar offers at other Park Place properties, the first thing they've wanted to know was my Park Place Connection card number. So if you call, you may be asked for that. My offer says $69 Sun-Thurs, but doesn't give a specific amount to upgrade. There may be more than one such offer depending on your level of casino play. Again, they may turn you down if you don't fit their qualification requirements.

adgtravel
Jun 13, 03, 8:04 am
Westcoaster is right, it was an offer mailed to me because of a past trip I signed up for Park Place Connection card and played at their casino. I don't play much, but it puts you on their mailing list for future offers, and it doesn't cost anything to join. They gave me the 89 rate for lounge level when I called! They do have a special Pass Port to Paris for 89 I think, open to anyone. Good Luck xyzzy, I hope you get a suite!

xyzzy
Jun 13, 03, 8:44 am
I'm on an $89 rate now. I didn't sign up for their program when I was there last month. I guess I should have.

Weatherboy
Jul 5, 03, 10:44 am
Hello--

I'd like to throw a party at the Las Vegas Paris in September on a Friday-Sunday for about 25 of my friends; we'd need 12-15 rooms.

While weekend rates are typically very high on weekends in Vegas, I was wondering:

-does the Paris offer any group rate or any other discount for 10+ rooms (like many other "real" Hiltons do)
-would the Paris offer me any HHonors perk for putting all rooms under my account (like many other "real" Hiltons do for event planners.)

I guess my expectations are low (a weekend without a meeting in Vegas at a Park Place resort) but I was wondering if anyone had any experience doing this. With Vegas the place for bachelor parties and the like, I'm sure someone has booked a block of rooms on the strip for some time of perk/discount http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

MoreMilesPlease
Jul 5, 03, 1:14 pm
Call the Hotel and speak to the meeting planner. They probably will do it for that many rooms. You might need to ask about bonus HH points as the planner. You'ld be surprised what you can get just by asking.

knit-in
Jul 16, 03, 11:28 am
Will be at the Paris for one night this sunday. Does the HH benefit "Spouse stays free" apply at the Paris (or for any other Park Place property)in Las Vegas?

If one wants to have three in the room, instead of two, which most hotel prices in Vegas are good for, then can the spouse stay for free or would one have to pay for the third person in the room?

Any experience on these boards with that?

I'm a HH Gold VIP.

Spouse stays free: When you travel with your spouse, he or she stays free in your room on every qualifying HHonors stay. (Does not apply to package features and not available at Hampton Inn® or Hampton Inn & Suites® hotels.)


http://hilton-prd-mem.hilton.com/en/hhonors/benefits/membership.jhtml;jsessionid=0DNQVCLA1FJWCCSGBIWM22 QKIYFC5UUC

hhonorsjunkie
Jul 16, 03, 4:37 pm
Yes, your spouse is free and a third person too.

yyzflyer
Jul 16, 03, 9:22 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hhonorsjunkie:
Yes, your spouse is free and a third person too. </font>

Actually the third person must be 18 or under. I know this for a fact, having been questioned about children's ages when staying at Paris. Still a much better deal than most Vegas hotels where the cut-off is 12 or 15.

aussiemate
Jul 17, 03, 3:55 pm
I checked the Park Place and Hilton Web sites and couldn't find any rates under $149 for these two nights, so I was hoping my friends at Flyertalk might know of a way to get a better rate so I'll have some cash left for gambling! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

yyzflyer
Jul 17, 03, 5:59 pm
Sorry, $149 is a good rate for Paris on a weekend. You want cheaper, go during the week.

hhonorsjunkie
Jul 17, 03, 6:10 pm
I'd also try calling the toll free number and ask if they have any better rates. Do mention if you have an American Express card or AAA. Here's the #: 1-888-727-4758.

Rut Dog
Jul 17, 03, 6:21 pm
My recent weekend trip, I ran into the same thing. Even Motel6 was $69 on Sat night.

Then I found the EconoLodge on the Strip (well, far north Strip, just north of the Stratosphere) for $25. I couldn't resist, and I slept better there than I had in many "upscale" rooms. It was clean, comfortable, and even had free shampoo. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I slept there, and spent all my time at the upscale casinos. Plus, I earned FF miles. It made me feel young again, staying in a place like that.

I found the rate on Orbitz.

teacher5
Oct 28, 03, 8:53 am
i am hilton diamond, but casino is paying for the room...anyone else have this kind of situation? ...wondering if i can get upgrade, ...free breakfast?...will it count as a stay and will i get miles?...jez, even i think i am asking a lot...but no reason not to try....any kinda room to ask for? with a view?..there i go again...lol

thanks

Jono
Oct 28, 03, 9:15 am
I just stayed there this weekend as a casino "guest" with a reduced rate. I showed my diamond card upon checkin and they offered to upgrade me to a "small" suite, gave me lounge access and a VIP pass for the buffet. Also told me I could get access to spa at bally's next door for free, but not to Paris spa, since it was not operated by the hotel. Haven't seen the points posted yet.

yyzflyer
Oct 28, 03, 9:24 am
I'm only Gold and I get upgraded at Paris on a "casino" rate all the time. (Not a 100% comp, but a very low rate.) They seem to be going through an HHonors appreciation phase. Let's hope it continues.

MIKESILV
Oct 28, 03, 10:48 am
Same as you situation here, though on my stays the comp pays for breakfast and all meals except in the top line restaurants.
Cant give a clear answer about room since I usually get a suite.
Even though you are comped make sure to have tham add your HHonors # to folio and charge at least a couple of candy bars or something from the gift shop.
Yes you will get stay credit (even if you have to call HHonors to get it posted, plus I always get AA miles and National car credit.
Additional bonus if you stay over New Years you will get credit for a 03 and a 04 stay.
mike

[This message has been edited by MIKESILV (edited 10-28-2003).]

Rut Dog
Oct 28, 03, 11:33 am
How do you get comped? Is it based on your previous wagering?

yyzflyer
Oct 28, 03, 11:37 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:
How do you get comped? Is it based on your previous wagering?</font>

Unfortunately. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

teacher5
Oct 28, 03, 3:40 pm
rut dog...

gamble and they pay for the room...the important (i think) part is that it is easier to get comped by marketing at the hotel rather than by casino hosts...once you get in to one hotel in the chain, you get the others (like we can stay at the bally's or paris)

this week we just came back from the bahamas (we used frequent flier miles too)and go to atlantic city for thanksgiving...i get really really excited when we come close to break even

QuietLion
Oct 28, 03, 5:17 pm
If you charge at least $1 other than tips to your room you should get stay credit. I have done it many times on a comped room there.

QL

767400
Oct 29, 03, 7:53 am
If I stay at the Paris LV hotel and pay the standard $159/nite for a weekend rate, does that entitle me to a suite upgrade when I show my Gold VIP card? Or is that up to the registration / check-in person?

yyzflyer
Oct 29, 03, 10:08 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 767400:
is that up to the registration / check-in person?</font>

Yes. Be nice - you are not officially entitled to anything more than you are paying for and weekends can be busy. Having said that, a lot of us have had good luck there recently (except gambling, in my case http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ).

teacher5
Nov 29, 03, 4:41 pm
is there some place to get those coupon books that have match plays etc other than asking at the front desk? would love to have one or 2 before i get there? the other threads just seems to mention asking at the hotel...who exactly really is entitled? we are going in a few weeks...but we are comped...do you think we will get points for incidentals??
thanks

uastarflyer
Nov 29, 03, 11:33 pm
If you check in for your stay at the airport (park place sign next to baggage carousel #1) they hand you the book there. i used the match plays at lv hilton and paris (lost both) and bally's (won). i used some of the %off and food coupons as well. nice book.

edited to add, for match play at some places you need to have the Connection card...and they track it so you could only do this once even if you have multiple books.

[This message has been edited by uastarflyer (edited Nov 29, 2003).]

767400
Dec 1, 03, 2:51 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by uastarflyer:
[B]If you check in for your stay at the airport (park place sign next to baggage carousel #1) they hand you the book there.</font>

I know this has been covered before and a link to the thread will be appreciated. What was the final count on upgrade stats.
Airport check-in vs. hotel check-in

thanks in advance

Bluehen1
Dec 1, 03, 5:48 pm
Upgraded at both Paris and Bally's over the holiday. Second time I got an upgrade at Paris. Checked in at the hotel both times (actually checked out of Paris and right into Bally's).

MisterNice
Dec 2, 03, 8:51 am
There are different PPE coupon deals depending upon your booking, ie if you book the Paris Passport Rate you get some $25 matching coupons etc on a separate printout along with the normal PPE book with the $5-$10 coupons etc. With most of the other lower rates you only get the $5-$10 matching coupons and other coupon stuff. Somebody previously reported they gotta 100's of the $25 coupons after asking. I would doubt if this actually occurred. I would love to have the potential return (ie 50%) with the nil overall financial risk.

MisterNice

xyzzy
Dec 2, 03, 8:55 am
$25 match play on a bet I would never make in the first place doesn't sound like "no risk" to me.

When I stayed at Paris I didn't use any of the coupons. They were a joke.

xyzzy
Dec 2, 03, 8:58 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 767400:
I know this has been covered before and a link to the thread will be appreciated. What was the final count on upgrade stats.
Airport check-in vs. hotel check-in

thanks in advance</font>We were upgraded at the airport but they first claimed they had no suites available. When I asked incredulously how they could have a 2900+ room hotel that wasn't sold out and have NO suites they said they weren't at the hotel and didn't know of any right then. I suggested that they call someone at the hotel to find one. They did. We were upgraded.

I have no idea whether this was better than checking in at the hotel directly. I understand that HH diamonds can use the special "invited guests" check-in line. That may help me next time.



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