Germany - 1/2 day in Dusseldorf?




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Analise
Jun 14, 11, 7:26 pm
I'm arriving at DUS around 7:30 on a Friday morning in July. I'm meeting friends for the weekend at Hagen between 4 and 5pm. Thus I have this free time. Now I've never seen Düsseldorf so I'm wondering if this would be a nice way to spend this free time. I've been to Köln and loved it. I love seeing cathedrals and older parts of a city. I also like sitting in cafés and enjoying a little bit of people watching.

I took a train to Brussels from Frankfurt about 18 months ago and I remember passing through Aachen. That city looked just like a postcard. Would I be better off taking the train to Aachen to spend the time there and then taking the train over to Hagen?

A few years back as I was fortunate enough to take the slow train to Hagen from FRA as it meandered along the Rhine. I was awed by that ride. But I feel that going south to those cities will have me spending too much time on the train.

So.....should I spend time in Düsseldorf? Go to Aachen? Any other ideas? Thanks.

Would I be able to leave my luggage in a locker at any of the train stations?


bruce80
Jun 15, 11, 2:09 am
Aachen could be a bit too far away (by train) to really enjoy your stay. You might be able to catch the 8:22 RE 4 train to Aachen from Düsseldorf Central Station (but that would mean you'd really have to hurry to get there, you should catch a train at DUS around 8 o'clock) you won't be there until 9:45 (but expect not to reach that train which would mean you'd only be there at 10:09 (RE 1 at 8:32 from the DUS long distance train station) or even 10:45 (RE 4 at 9:22 from Central). You'd probably have to leave Aachen between 1pm and 2pm to get to Hagen before 4pm (the ICE service from Cologne to Hagen is currently not in operation, so you'll probably have to stick to a regional train) and I doubt that you'd enjoy a three-hour visit to Aachen.

I'd recommend visiting Cologne instead, or you might stay in Düsseldorf - but that's entirely up to you.

And regarding your questions on luggage lockers: Should you indeed be visiting Aachen, there are lockers in a small room on the left at the end of the subway leading from the platforms to the exit, in Cologne, you'll find automated locker machines in front of the ticket office. Be warned that they are quite expensive (4 EUR for 24 hours) especially when you only want to use them for a few hours (you'll have to pay for the entire day).

And another hint for Aachen: When you take the train from Düsseldorf to Aachen, the bus service in Aachen is included for a trip from the station. If you want to see the cathedral (which is an UNESCO heritage if I'm not entirely wrong), you may walk (about 15 minutes) or take any of the buses leaving from the opposite side of the station square (except for lines 3 and 13) and get off at "Alter Posthof" which is the second stop after Central Station.

Analise
Jun 15, 11, 6:06 am
The length of time on the train may put Aachen out of consideration. Thanks for the info about the bus being included in the train fare. When I saw it on the train, I was awed....gotta think about that. How long does it typically take to go through immigration? I will have a carry-on so I won't be checking anything.

I've been to Köln so I'm thinking about seeing another part of the area. That's why I thought about Düsseldorf itself.


bruce80
Jun 15, 11, 6:16 am
I have never arrived in DUS from an international flight, so I cannot say anything about immigration. The train ride to Düsseldorf central station will take about 20 to 30 minutes (transfer time to the long distance train station and waiting times included), taking the S Bahn from the terminal station will take about the same amount of time - if you stay in Düsseldorf, you'll have plenty of time for sightseeing.

Analise
Jun 15, 11, 6:22 am
I have never arrived in DUS from an international flight, so I cannot say anything about immigration. The train ride to Düsseldorf central station will take about 20 to 30 minutes (transfer time to the long distance train station and waiting times included), taking the S Bahn from the terminal station will take about the same amount of time - if you stay in Düsseldorf, you'll have plenty of time for sightseeing.I'm not staying in Düsseldorf; I have about a 1/2 of a day of free time to myself and I'm trying to plan what to do. I am meeting friends in Hagen midafternoon.

jneugeba
Jun 15, 11, 7:40 am
I enjoyed the day I spend wandering around Düsseldorf. The river is very pretty with lots of shops, restaurants, etc. along it. Having just gotten off a flight I would keep everything simple and just stay there. You will enjoy seeing the fashion capital of Germany and comparing it to NYC!

Analise
Jun 15, 11, 9:30 am
I enjoyed the day I spend wandering around Düsseldorf. The river is very pretty with lots of shops, restaurants, etc. along it. Having just gotten off a flight I would keep everything simple and just stay there. You will enjoy seeing the fashion capital of Germany and comparing it to NYC!You know something, jneugeba, that works! :) Done, you convinced me.

Do you know if I can store my luggage at a locker at the Dusseldorf bahnhof? I'm not returning to DUS so I'm assuming that there is some type of locker or luggage storage area? If so, would you know what the term for it is in German? :)

MSPeconomist
Jun 15, 11, 10:13 am
I agree with the advice to stay in Dusseldorf and spend some time walking around in a leisurely way. The river/canal is nice, there are lots of interesting clothes stores, and a pleasant historic quarter. Being the fashion capital, it's a good place for people watching, espcially from a sidewalk cafe on a nice day. I don't remember any major museums and churches, but there surely are some smaller historic churches in the older areas of town. Relax and enjoy!

bruce80
Jun 15, 11, 10:22 am
Do you know if I can store my luggage at a locker at the Dusseldorf bahnhof? I'm not returning to DUS so I'm assuming that there is some type of locker or luggage storage area? If so, would you know what the term for it is in German? :)

You can. You'll find the lockers in several places - they are clearly marked by a locker sign, but if you have to ask someone, ask for a "Schliessfach" (or simply for the luggage lockers, they'll probably understand what you want). A wide variety of differently sized lockers can be found in the subway underneath patform 4/5 - you'll also find the locker attendants ("Schliessfachaufsicht") there (next to the lounge entrance).

Analise
Jun 15, 11, 11:09 am
I agree with the advice to stay in Dusseldorf and spend some time walking around in a leisurely way. The river/canal is nice, there are lots of interesting clothes stores, and a pleasant historic quarter. Being the fashion capital, it's a good place for people watching, espcially from a sidewalk cafe on a nice day. I don't remember any major museums and churches, but there surely are some smaller historic churches in the older areas of town. Relax and enjoy!Smaller historic churches? Great. It all sounds nice. :)

You'll find the lockers in several places - they are clearly marked by a locker sign, but if you have to ask someone, ask for a "Schliessfach" (or simply for the luggage lockers, they'll probably understand what you want). A wide variety of differently sized lockers can be found in the subway underneath patform 4/5 - you'll also find the locker attendants ("Schliessfachaufsicht") there (next to the lounge entrance).Thank you. I have a few 1€ and 2€ coins.

falconea
Jun 17, 11, 3:00 pm
The Altstadt (old city) is lovely with some very nice churches and also the "Schlossturm", which has lovely views from the top. Nearby is St Lambertus, which is a lovely church.

The Königsallee is where all the fashion shops are, and the canal down the centre is very pretty.

If you wanted to see something different Schloss Benrath is a pretty pink summer palace. Alternatively, the Neanderthal Museum is also nearby - the Düsseldorf area has been use by humans for a very, very long time!

Audrey

Analise
Jun 17, 11, 8:26 pm
Are the Alstadt and Königsallee walking distance from Düsseldorf's main railroad station?

falconea
Jun 18, 11, 2:27 pm
Are the Alstadt and Königsallee walking distance from Düsseldorf's main railroad station?

Not really. The area around the main station is not a particularly nice area - it's all ugly 1950s reconstruction. It's about a 20 minutes walk from there to the Altstadt.

Tahe the U-Bahn from the main station to Heinrich-Heine-Allee and that will get you to the right area.

Audrey

Analise
Jun 24, 11, 6:49 pm
Not really. The area around the main station is not a particularly nice area - it's all ugly 1950s reconstruction. It's about a 20 minutes walk from there to the Altstadt.

Tahe the U-Bahn from the main station to Heinrich-Heine-Allee and that will get you to the right area.

AudreyThanks.

Analise
Jul 14, 11, 5:14 am
I arrived in DUS in the rain so because of the weather, my friend picked me up directly at the airport. So I never got a chance to walk around Düsseldorf. Next time. Talk about a bummer.

For a 9:15am return flight, what time should one arrive at DUS? Out of curiousity, if one were making a 9:45am int'l flight from FRA, what time should one get there?

Flying Lawyer
Jul 14, 11, 2:02 pm
I have never arrived in DUS from an international flight, so I cannot say anything about immigration. The train ride to Düsseldorf central station will take about 20 to 30 minutes (transfer time to the long distance train station and waiting times included), taking the S Bahn from the terminal station will take about the same amount of time - if you stay in Düsseldorf, you'll have plenty of time for sightseeing.

If you are at least in C, immigration will take five minutes, so the bottle neck is luggage. The train from the Terminal Station (DO NOT go to the long distance station but look for the green S11 sign) takes 12 minutes. You need a ticket with fare A from the vending machines and this is 2,30 or so Euro and good for all trains, trams and busses in Düsseldorf within a certain time limit (I believe to recollect 90 minutes).

Flying Lawyer
Jul 14, 11, 2:05 pm
I arrived in DUS in the rain so because of the weather, my friend picked me up directly at the airport. So I never got a chance to walk around Düsseldorf. Next time. Talk about a bummer.

For a 9:15am return flight, what time should one arrive at DUS? Out of curiousity, if one were making a 9:45am int'l flight from FRA, what time should one get there?

I have a 830 flight tomorrow and will be at the airport 745 to allow for breakfast in the lounge. FRA? What kind of international flight? US? an hour early. Intra Europe? 40 minutes.

Analise
Jul 15, 11, 4:01 pm
I have a 830 flight tomorrow and will be at the airport 745 to allow for breakfast in the lounge.Security lines are SO QUICK that 45 minutes includes security and breakfast at DUS? Wow. For an overseas flight?

FRA? What kind of international flight? US? an hour early. Intra Europe? 40 minutes.Flight to the US. Security lines also don't exist at FRA?

Flying Lawyer
Jul 16, 11, 1:22 am
Security lines are SO QUICK that 45 minutes includes security and breakfast at DUS? Wow. For an overseas flight?

My experience is generally pampered by Star Gold at DUS. However, yesterday I arrived at 730 (by far too earliy), it took me 30 seconds from the taxi to the BP check point and three minutes to get through security via the regular line (early morning = plenty of C Class and status customers. so the gold line was more crowded). It took me another, well, 1 1/2 to two minutes to arrive at the lounge reception. I left the lounge at 815 to board my 830 flight (another 40 seconds walk) and I was not the last one to get on board. This is DUS.

I would not have planed any longer for an international flight. There might be the caveat of the passport controll which might take five minutes if too many people with strange passports are around. But on my my regular LHR flights before or after the US flights have deaprted? Passport control take a minute....

Flying Lawyer
Jul 16, 11, 1:26 am
Flight to the US. Security lines also don't exist at FRA?

For the US? Lets say 1:10 to keep the peace of mind. At FRA, Star Gold is more important, however, security is certainly not as slow as at certain US airports and we do not force the pax to perform a striptease. Hand luggage restrictions make things faster too. All of this brings the thing up to speed (however, no problem to identify US travellers: these are the ones with tons of hand luggage who always take their shoes and belts off even without being asked to :p)

Analise
Jul 16, 11, 2:21 am
For the US? Lets say 1:10 to keep the peace of mind. At FRA, Star Gold is more important, however, security is certainly not as slow as at certain US airports and we do not force the pax to perform a striptease. Hand luggage restrictions make things faster too. All of this brings the thing up to speed (however, no problem to identify US travellers: these are the ones with tons of hand luggage who always take their shoes and belts off even without being asked to :p)That I can keep my shoes and belt on is a pure luxury I will enjoy, I promise! I appreciate the reminder. ^ For those who are not 'Star Gold,' does the 1:10 time still apply?

About 2 1/2 years ago, as I was going through security at DUS, the airline employee at security opened up my suitcase and emptied it entirely. That DID take some time. She was, to say the least, a very thorough woman. She was also enormous and a bit angry and someone to take very seriously.

You mentioned 'hand luggage restrictions'. Are there additional restrictions in Germany? If so, I do not remember them and would appreciate knowing what they are as I want to go through security quickly.

We have 'tons' of hand luggage (or in my case 2 pieces) because we don't want to wait at the carousel in the US and perhaps miss a connection and because we are accustomed to our luggage not arriving with us.

Flying Lawyer
Jul 16, 11, 8:08 am
That I can keep my shoes and belt on is a pure luxury I will enjoy, I promise! I appreciate the reminder. ^ For those who are not 'Star Gold,' does the 1:10 time still apply?

About 2 1/2 years ago, as I was going through security at DUS, the airline employee at security opened up my suitcase and emptied it entirely. That DID take some time. She was, to say the least, a very thorough woman. She was also enormous and a bit angry and someone to take very seriously.

You mentioned 'hand luggage restrictions'. Are there additional restrictions in Germany? If so, I do not remember them and would appreciate knowing what they are as I want to go through security quickly.

We have 'tons' of hand luggage (or in my case 2 pieces) because we don't want to wait at the carousel in the US and perhaps miss a connection and because we are accustomed to our luggage not arriving with us.

Give yourself 10 more minutes without status, this should do the trick. Hand luggage? In general one piece of handluggage plus a handbag or small laptop bag. And we enforce size restrictions. If it comes to a second more thorough search: Everything that looks like liquid is a trigger, so are boxes of business cards or tons of electronic toys, adapters and cables.

FLLDL
Oct 14, 11, 7:20 am
I have a flight arriving in DUS at 9am and connecting flight does not leave until 230pm. I am planning to go into the city to kill time during my layover, will anything be open in the old town during the 10a to 12p time frame on a weekend morning?

Arriving on international flight and traveling with carry-on only, so would leave bag at left luggage office. Thank you in advance.

Flying Lawyer
Oct 14, 11, 2:44 pm
I have a flight arriving in DUS at 9am and connecting flight does not leave until 230pm. I am planning to go into the city to kill time during my layover, will anything be open in the old town during the 10a to 12p time frame on a weekend morning?

Arriving on international flight and traveling with carry-on only, so would leave bag at left luggage office. Thank you in advance.

10am... no
12 noon... yes



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