US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - Routes for the 330?

I was hoping some of you could fill me in on which routes the 330 typically fly on?
Thanks,
Jaas

IIRC:

PHL-LGW (1 of two flights in summer)
PHL-MAN
PHL-FRA
PHL-CDG
PHL-FCO
PHL-MAD (in summer)
PHL-SJU (in winter, once a day)

CLT-LGW

PIT-FRA

PHL - FCO (Rome)

I think the CDG route is seasonal as well.

PHL-SJU is year round
PHL-LGW
PHL-MAN
PHL-FRA
PHL-FCO
PHL-CDG (Winter)
PIT-FRA

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by usairways85:
PHL-SJU is year round
PHL-LGW
PHL-MAN
PHL-FRA
PHL-FCO
PHL-CDG (Winter)
PIT-FRA</font>

And when they switch the PHL-CDG to two 767's in the Summer, the 330 moves to PHL-MAD.

If there is an equipment problem, PHL-SJU is the first one that gets pulled, based on what people have had to say in previous threads.

The 330's also continue for some domestic segments from PHL/PIT, but I can't remember what those are. They don't sit at the hub all day waiting on the evening's transatlantic return to Europe.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by StSebastian:
And when they switch the PHL-CDG to two 767's in the Summer, the 330 moves to PHL-MAD.

If there is an equipment problem, PHL-SJU is the first one that gets pulled, based on what people have had to say in previous threads.

The 330's also continue for some domestic segments from PHL/PIT, but I can't remember what those are. They don't sit at the hub all day waiting on the evening's transatlantic return to Europe.</font>


I don't believe the 330 do any current domestic legs except SJU which US considers INTL due to tax differences. They don't have any extra 330's to 'sit around all day' they are only in the US in the afternoon for a few hours for turns back to EUROPE. The one 330 that does the SJU run is actually a different craft each day. Don't know how they determine, perhaps maint scheule but this is how I understand it to work. One of the inbound 330's from EUR arrive in PHL in mid-afternoon. Plane does not go back to EUR that evening. Instead it sits overnight and makes up the PHL-SJU-PHL run the next day. Upon the completion of SJU-PHL it is prepared and goes out to EUR that evening on one of the later departures, probably the late LGW flight as it does not arrive back in PHL from SJU until around 6:30 pm or so.

If this process has changed I've not heard about it. The reason they pull the 330 from the SJU run is another 330 goes offline is because they dont' have any other spares laying around. They are all fully committed to runs each day and/or scheduled maint as that occurs.

Hope that helps.


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[This message has been edited by US1@ORF (edited Feb 18, 2004).]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by US1@ORF:

Upon the completion of SJU-PHL it is prepared and goes out to EUR that evening on one of the later departures, probably the late LGW flight as it does not arrive back in PHL from SJU until around 6:30 pm or so.
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I can vouch for that theory having sat in PHL waiting for it to arrive from SJU on my last trip back to LGW in December.

Made the Envoy upgrade even more valuable being able to kill the time in the lounge rather than the main concourse.

To my knowledge the only regular domestic segment the A330 ever operated (besides SJU), was PHL-MIA for a brief period of time (no more than a few months), as an extension of the FCO flight a few years ago...on very rare occasions the A330's are operated inter-hub for repositioning reasons, but I have only seen this once and got on the flight as well...US 740 from PHL-PIT, 3/16/02, operated by N674UW, hence my FT handle...this was the first day that PIT-LGW had been restarted and so I suppose that an extra A330 needed to be moved to PIT to accomodate the transatlantic flight and so they sold seats on this one time only segment...the A330 was very empty IIRC...maybe 50 or 60 people tops...

N674UW

N674UW

It looks like Madrid will not be getting its 330 back. The schedule shows a 767 throughout the summer. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BillMorrow:
It looks like Madrid will not be getting its 330 back. The schedule shows a 767 throughout the summer. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif</font>


The timetable now shows the 330 starting 5/1 to MAD.

Let's hope the A330's don't fly the Philadelphia to Marana route!http://www.airchive.com/SITE%20PAGES/VIN-ARIZONA.html

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by US1@ORF:

I don't believe the 330 do any current domestic legs except SJU which US considers INTL due to tax differences. They don't have any extra 330's to 'sit around all day' they are only in the US in the afternoon for a few hours for turns back to EUROPE. The one 330 that does the SJU run is actually a different craft each day. Don't know how they determine, perhaps maint scheule but this is how I understand it to work. One of the inbound 330's from EUR arrive in PHL in mid-afternoon. Plane does not go back to EUR that evening. Instead it sits overnight and makes up the PHL-SJU-PHL run the next day. Upon the completion of SJU-PHL it is prepared and goes out to EUR that evening on one of the later departures, probably the late LGW flight as it does not arrive back in PHL from SJU until around 6:30 pm or so. </font>


This is correct. And interestingly enough, the A-330 scheduled mechanical work is done in CLT. So when they have a A-330 in PHL that is due for some scheduled work, they will use it on the PHL-LGW flight and allow it to make the LGW-CLT return flight the next day, thus positioning it for the scheduled work. The A-330 that comes into PHL and sits overnight for the next day's PHL-SJU run is the Euro-spare in case there is a problem with one of the PHL-Europe flights.

Yes, I have seen the 330 scheduled for PHL-CLT trips.

OH NO! I really hope that MAD gets the 330 back, because I would not want to be on the 767! I'm planning to use my DMUTA3's coming this summer on the PHL-MAD route. . . I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Now that we're on that topic . . . is it possible to use the DMUTA3's on the PHL-SJU flights to upgrade to Envoy?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GotCalcio4:
Yes, I have seen the 330 scheduled for PHL-CLT trips.

OH NO! I really hope that MAD gets the 330 back, because I would not want to be on the 767! I'm planning to use my DMUTA3's coming this summer on the PHL-MAD route. . . I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Now that we're on that topic . . . is it possible to use the DMUTA3's on the PHL-SJU flights to upgrade to Envoy?</font>


You can use DMUTA3's on any flight but it would be a waste since you can use E-upgrades on this domestic flight.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dknn:

You can use DMUTA3's on any flight but it would be a waste since you can use E-upgrades on this domestic flight.</font>

You can use e-upgrades on flights to the carribean?! I thought that they could only be used for flights in the continental US and Canada?

Regular upgrades are quite ok for Caribbean travel. Upgraded myself and b/f to/from GCM last May using the usual US1 upgrade benefits.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dknn:

You can use DMUTA3's on any flight but it would be a waste since you can use E-upgrades on this domestic flight.</font>

The DMUTAx upgrades are TransAtlantic upgrades, unlike the older versions which were systemwide. The e-upgrades are North American and can be used for domestic USA, Canada, the Caribbean, Bermuda, Mexico and Central America (in case anyone is very particular about Costa Rica and Bermuda's inclusion in the Caribbean).


[This message has been edited by geo1005 (edited Feb 24, 2004).]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by geo1005:
The DMUTAx upgrades are TransAtlantic upgrades, unlike the older versions which were systemwide. The e-upgrades are North American and can be used for domestic USA, Canada, the Caribbean, Bermuda, Mexico and Central America (in case anyone is very particular about Costa Rica and Bermuda's inclusion in the Caribbean).


[This message has been edited by geo1005 (edited Feb 24, 2004).]</font>

IIRC, my DMUTA3 that I gave up for a Germany trip earlier this month said TransAtlantic on it, but also said that it was good for all flights domestic, to the Caribbean and Latin America, and to Europe. Although it said TransAtlantic on it, it was essentially a SWU.

I have spoken with 2 agents in trying to using my transatlantic upgrade for a trip to GCM - no dice. They said it's transatlantic and muct be used on a trip to Europe.

Good, I'm happy that the unlimiteds apply to the Carribean.

Mine say "complimentary transatlantic upgrades" and each say that they are valid for a "one-way upgrade to Envoy Class on US between the continental US, Canada, the Carribean, Central America, or Mexico and Europe."

Another question (although irrevelant as of March 1): Does this mean that I would be able to fly F for all domestic portions of my trip, and then Envoy to Europe, all using the DMUTA3? (I live in NOVA, so I need to connect from DCA-PHL/CLT)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GotCalcio4:
Good, I'm happy that the unlimiteds apply to the Carribean.

Mine say "complimentary transatlantic upgrades" and each say that they are valid for a "one-way upgrade to Envoy Class on US between the continental US, Canada, the Carribean, Central America, or Mexico and Europe."

Another question (although irrevelant as of March 1): Does this mean that I would be able to fly F for all domestic portions of my trip, and then Envoy to Europe, all using the DMUTA3? (I live in NOVA, so I need to connect from DCA-PHL/CLT)</font>

Yes, the DMUTA's are good from your home airport to the hub in First(unless RJ) and in Business from the hub to Europe.

They are not good on just Domestic or North American region upgrades. This is now a mute point since everyone gets "unlimited" upgrades to first for domestic travel.



[This message has been edited by planeluvr (edited Feb 24, 2004).]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by planeluvr:
This is now a mute point since everyone gets "unlimited" upgrades to first for domestic travel.</font>

Hence the "although irrevelant as of March 1" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

But thanks!