GLBT Travelers - Gay couple claim they were ejected from Soho (London) pub for kissing




ajax
Apr 14, 11, 11:43 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/14/gay-claim-ejected-pub-kissing

The pair say that objections were first raised to their displays of affection shortly after they arrived at 8.30pm by a fellow drinker claiming to be the landlord, who was off duty. They refused what they described as his "polite request" to stop kissing. Williams, 26, and Bull, 23, insist they were not indulging in a "huge display of affection", but were merely kissing on the lips.

[One of the complainants] said the first man, who identified himself as the landlord, asked them to stop kissing "because it was bothering him". The couple refused and were left alone until about 10.45pm, when a woman who said she was the landlady intervened.

Bull said he was putting on his coat to leave and had given Williams "a peck on the lips" when the woman, who was wearing a staff uniform, came up to them.

"She said we had to leave because we were being obscene. Then the other guy from earlier came over again and said we had to leave now, we 'weren't allowed to do that'."

Both Bull and Williams said the man took hold of Williams's coat lapels as he asked them to leave the pub. Bull called the police when he arrived home, who came and took a statement. Bar staff have the right to eject drinkers, but they must abide by equality legislation.
I must say, I am shocked. I have been living in London for over a decade and I never would have expected to see these accusations - ever.


newyorkgeorge
Apr 14, 11, 12:02 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/14/gay-claim-ejected-pub-kissing


I must say, I am shocked. I have been living in London for over a decade and I never would have expected to see these accusations - ever.

Sadly, the same situation could easily happen in Manhattan, LA, Chicago, etc.

Morland
Apr 15, 11, 7:02 am
The internet has swung into action and the body of opinion on the whole seems to be behind the guys thrown out and not the pub, although obviously it's not 100% supportive.

A kiss-in has been organised tonight and so far 614 people have registered...
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=108045115947136&index=1

The Guardian newspaper is running live coverage (!)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/apr/15/kissing-in-public-live-blog

It's likely that the pub landlord was actually acting illegally unless it can be demonstrated that straight people kissing would also have been thrown out. However, there may be a "Get out of Jail Free" card because it's also the case that in law the landlord has ultimate decision-making power about who is permitted in his licensed establishment. So it's potentially an interesting legal question. So far, neither the pub nor the brewery that owns the pub have commented.


behuman
Apr 15, 11, 7:39 am
[QUOTE=ajax;16218230I must say, I am shocked. I have been living in London for over a decade and I never would have expected to see these accusations - ever.[/QUOTE]

I am a middle aged guy and it remembers me my youth when these things were normal. My generation fighted for what we all can enjoy today (especally a legal base), but this incident shows that the fight is never over.

neuron
Apr 15, 11, 10:51 am
from the blog, it appears the John Snow pub closed its doors in fear of the protest. If nothing, that will hurt their pocketbook to be closed on a Fri night.

Boo to Samuel Smith's for not commenting on the bad behaviour from the staff of one of their pubs.



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