fireworksboy
Dec 6, 03, 8:21 pm
Are we nearing the beginning of the end?
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/today/sky.htm#us
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/today/sky.htm#us
US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - More Financial Trouble?View Full Version : More Financial Trouble? fireworksboy Dec 6, 03, 8:21 pm Are we nearing the beginning of the end? http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/today/sky.htm#us NeoOfTheCRS Dec 6, 03, 9:31 pm Don't think there is anything new here. It may be a little early for US's demise. Maybe a well-timed gambit to get PIT's attention again. Don't think they want to. . .but think US will abandon PIT if they have other opportunities ClueByFour Dec 6, 03, 10:20 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NeoOfTheCRS: Don't think there is anything new here. It may be a little early for US's demise. Maybe a well-timed gambit to get PIT's attention again. Don't think they want to. . .but think US will abandon PIT if they have other opportunities</font> What opportunities? PHL? CLT? Oz? ------------------ Don't feed the trolls. GadgetFreak Dec 6, 03, 10:59 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour: What opportunities? PHL? CLT? Oz? </font> Man, I would love it if they had a hub in Oz. I would fly them all of the time. You could stop by the castle and chat with the wizard. And the singing munchkins. It would be so cool. But Im not holding my breath. I will pour another Bowmore though and dream of US and Oz. shinbal Dec 7, 03, 2:10 am The article makes a statement about Jim Roddey, "outgoing chief of Allegheny County, which includes Philadelphia". Allegheny county is the airport authority at PIT, 300 miles from Philly. Jim Roddey is the outgoing county exec, with no authority over Philly. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The assumption that US couldn't merge with UA based on the last attempt is also incorrect. The changes in both of these airlines, and indeed the entire industry, after September 11, 2001, opened up all new doors. CLTFlyer Dec 7, 03, 9:12 am <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by shinbal: The assumption that US couldn't merge with UA based on the last attempt is also incorrect. The changes in both of these airlines, and indeed the entire industry, after September 11, 2001, opened up all new doors. </font> From what I've read elsewhere, it's likely that post-9/11, DOJ and DOT would have allowed the merger, given the new realities in the industry. It's just that the parties haven't taken them up on it (nor should they I think). NeoOfTheCRS Dec 7, 03, 9:20 am Other opportunities=regional feeder for UA at IAD <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour: What opportunities? PHL? CLT? Oz? </font> idealflyer Dec 7, 03, 10:22 am [QUOTE]Originally posted by ClueByFour: [B] What opportunities? PHL? CLT? Oz? Probably more likely something like Texas... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif ------------------ Going back to the bAAsics Feed the world for FREE! One click daily- www.thehungersite.com (http://www.thehungersite.com) TomBascom Dec 7, 03, 11:03 am <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by shinbal: The assumption that US couldn't merge with UA based on the last attempt is also incorrect. The changes in both of these airlines, and indeed the entire industry, after September 11, 2001, opened up all new doors.</font> The main thing that kept the last merger from happening was the price. The DOJ objected more out of sympathy for UA shareholders than over any anti-merger principle... SS255 Dec 7, 03, 12:00 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GadgetFreak: Man, I would love it if they had a hub in Oz. I would fly them all of the time. You could stop by the castle and chat with the wizard. And the singing munchkins. It would be so cool. But Im not holding my breath. I will pour another Bowmore though and dream of US and Oz.</font> Actually, PHL-LAX (or SFO)-AKL would probably make more sense. Since UA stopped flying to AKL from LAX, US could capitalize on most of the UA traffic - especially once US moves to the UA terminal at LAX. Connections will be a breeze compared to connecting with NZ. Then again a nonstop from PHL - Sydney would probably be a very popular flight. pitflyer Dec 7, 03, 1:07 pm Man, that's such a BASIC factual error (Allegheny County is the home of Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia) I don't know what USAToday pays its fact checkers for. I mean, they quote two Pittsburgh newspapers and they're both talking about Philadelphia?? I wish USAirways would just get on with it and jerk another city around, already... Give me a few more hub flights on some of the other carriers and let 'em rot. GadgetFreak Dec 7, 03, 2:08 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by pitflyer: Man, that's such a BASIC factual error (Allegheny County is the home of Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia) I don't know what USAToday pays its fact checkers for. I mean, they quote two Pittsburgh newspapers and they're both talking about Philadelphia?? </font> I was interviewed a few years ago (2 maybe) by USA Today for a story they were doing on some scientific work. In the interview we discussed some Nobel Prize winners in some related areas. When I saw the article I was more than a little shocked to see they said that someone other than the person who actually won the Nobel in question had actually won. Since they didnt quote me on that bit of the story (although they did on a few others) and the guy they said won is a nice guy who maybe should have won, I didnt bother to tell them. But fact checking, hah, maybe they and Fox share the same fact checking service. IndyDavid Dec 7, 03, 3:20 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">maybe they and Fox share the same fact checking service.[/B]</font> Or, as it's spelled around here, Faux News. ClueByFour Dec 7, 03, 4:53 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NeoOfTheCRS: Other opportunities=regional feeder for UA at IAD</font> So that they can siphon their own traffic ex-DCA? ------------------ Don't feed the trolls. dcmike Dec 7, 03, 5:03 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour: So that they can siphon their own traffic ex-DCA? </font> Since it worked so well back in the Metrojet days http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif NeoOfTheCRS Dec 7, 03, 5:35 pm Completely different. US (or MidAtlantic) operating equipment as UA-its the only way they can survive. UA can't afford a full fledged merger and US can't afford PIT. PIT can't give US what it is asking for. UA has a need for a feeder into Dulles they either have get a regional carrier or retreat from Dulles. Maybe they will. But IMO, US has no other way to avoid Ch. 7. I think they can survive as a contract carrier feeding UA. With costs as they are, it makes no sense to feed PAX through PIT. US should continue to service and wage a fight for the O&D traffic out of PIT though. <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour: So that they can siphon their own traffic ex-DCA? </font> CPRich Dec 7, 03, 7:27 pm <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by shinbal: The article makes a statement about Jim Roddey, "outgoing chief of Allegheny County, which includes Philadelphia". </font> Once again earning it's reputation as the McPaper. |