Hertz - How to get through to Hertz, just constant disappointment




BrianV
Mar 15, 11, 4:27 pm
I've been a Hertz guy for about 5 years (5-star member the last 2 years). As I started to travel more, I consolidated on Hertz. My company also got a promo code, and I have my USAA code which generally makes for competitive fares.

For the first 4 years, I was very happy, but recently I've had three issues in a very short period of time, all of which have been unresolved by Hertz.

I'm not coming here to complain directly to this forum, but to seek any proper way to bring to their attention the issue, as today's experience really set me over and I have to consider changing vendors. However, with my corporate contract here and the USAA code, it's harder to do than I'd say.

In chronological and factual order, here are the three issues that have transpired in the past 3 months. I rent a car ~2 times per month, so this is about half of the rentals for the period. Prior, I really never had any issue.

1. Rented a car at Buffalo airport and received a car that was in horrid condition. It hadn't been cleaned, and most importantly, the car had vile substances on almost all of the seating surfaces. I couldn't detect, but it was on seat fabric and door panels and appeared to be one of the following: vomit, snot or other foreign bodily fluids. (picture below)

I did write a complaint on Hertz.com and just received a response from someone at Hertz that they had contacted the manager and they work to clean every car, etc. etc. They had apologized, but it wasn't so sincere, and I never heard any follow-up from the management which they implied I would.

2. Rented a car weeks later at Buffalo again. The car was nice, but since I was returning the car at Toronto airport, I received a car that had its odometer in Kilometers and not miles. For whatever reason, the car (volvo) would not change into miles, or I couldn't find the setting. The car rental I had arranged was for a fixed amount per day, plus $0.25 per mile. It seemed since I was returning over the border, I couldn't get an unlimited plan for that rental. None the less, I drove it 465 kilometers if my memory serves me correct. When I returned it to YYZ, they said my invoice would be emailed to me, they couldn't print it. I watched the gentlemen dialog my kilometers and I mentioned and showed the original receipt which says I'm to be charged for miles and not kilometers.

1 week later I get my invoice and I have been charged for driving 465 miles, despite only driving 465 kilometers. With a simple conversion, I should've been charged $0.25 for 288 miles.

I called Hertz customer service in Oklahoma twice to get this resolved, yet I never received a refund. Each time I had to explain to the reps that miles and kilometers are not the same, and I clearly entered an agreement based on miles and not kilometers. Each time I was told it had been corrected, yet I was never issued a credit. After spending about 45 minutes each time, I decided to eat the $45 or whatever it was. Even though my company asked me to get it corrected, we both decided it wasn't worth wasted productivity to get it resolved. Either way, I was disappointed in how it was handled, especially after working the problem twice. $45 isn't a big deal, and my company did eat it, but the lack of getting it resolved given my effort was frustrating.

3. Finally, today I arrived at SNA airport. I rented an SUV as I have coworkers I was to pick up later as well as some server equipment that is in large boxes. My confirmed reservation was for 12:00 PDT. I arrived to see a group of 20-30 people standing around the gold board (picture below). As a 5-star member, I didn't see my name on the board either. It was 12:10 when I arrived, I then queue'd up to talk to someone at the desk. About 5 minutes later I got to the front for a check-in. They asked me if I needed an SUV, and I said, I have passengers and boxes. He wrote my name down and said he'd get me something large and asked me to stand over by the sign (with everyone else). I asked what was going on, and the gentleman said they were bringing cars down and I needed to wait. I asked how long, and he said 20-30 minutes.

I patiently awaited my turn. At no point was any employee communicating anything to customers, we were each getting called about once every 2-3 minutes. There were many cars in the parking stalls, but they were only helping 1 customer every 2-3 minutes.

Finally it was my turn, exactly 39 minutes after I had arrived in the garage. I was handed the keys to a Camry. I asked the guy who was handling the car giveaway about an SUV, and he said something to the effect of, "take it or leave it". I did see 4 SUVs in vicinity, although they were each nicer than the one I had (I rented a Xterra, and they had 2 tahoes, a suburban, and an inifiniti FX-something). Given the amount of time I had already waited, I just couldn't afford to wait any longer as I had co-workers who were awaiting me to pick them up and take us to a lunch appointment we were waiting for.


Those are the three stories, I failed to get any reasonable response on items 1 or 2, but #3 really upset me. I had a confirmed reservation, and not a single time did one employee even apologize even as simple as sorry. I've rented at SNA many times, and this was a first. Also, when I checked out, the check out guy (Hertz badge) asked How I was doing? I simply responded, "Not well.", and he didn't say another word. Why ask if you don't really care? I understand that perhaps they were swamped or someone didn't return a car, but to have some 30 people waiting seems more like poor management there or at reservations. Most importantly, not once was there any apology from a single employee (I spoke to four different employees). Meanwhile, other customers were yelling and throwing tantrums, I just sucked it up, and the only reason I didn't make a deal out of it was that given the state of affairs in the rest of the world, this issue is relatively irrelevant.

However, I feel it's my duty to report this, I just don't know how to get through. I am going to consider switching to National or Avis now, not because crap happens, but because the customer service just isn't there when it does. I'm sure it's no better over there, but Hertz has shown through its employees that they simply don't wish to make the effort.

What do you guys think? I know this is FT, so I'm probably not going to get much help other than get told to go sit in the corner and pound sand, but here are pictures.

1 - Nissan Altima with bodily fluid on it (this was on 3 of 4 door panels and 3 of 4 seats). Also, I had to drive clients around. Before anyone asks, I didn't notice it until we got to the border crossing and had our vehicle randomly searched. The parking garage at Buffalo is very dark and I didn't enter the back seat or passenger seat where it was bad. It was too far to return back at that point.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112537/hertzbuffalo.jpg
Note there's a small piece of pink crusty food like substance, this led me to believe the possibility of food chunk/vomit. Also, although not horrible, the lingering smell of funk existed.

2. Here is a line of people at SNA this morning.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112537/hertzsna.jpg
This was only about half of the people, there was another bunch of people to the right of the sign where there was a bench.

I'm just a frustrated customer who rarely complains, but is tired of the lack of customer service. I've only complained once to Starwood and Starwood corporate contacted me directly as did the hotel manager, and they offered an apologetic approach and even asked me detailed questions to get to the root of the issue. That's all I want.


killer9012
Mar 15, 11, 5:05 pm
I have had many problems with hertz as well in the last 4 months. All have been resolved-unresolved with the local hertz as corporate doesnt seem to give a rats .... They seem to own the brand and manage accounts with the outlets and thats it. If you have a problem, talk to the location, if they dont/cant resolve it, tuff luck. I have started too look at other vendors such as budget. As someone pumping out 300$ a week to hertz, and they cannot do a damn thing to help me, well I will take the 15k a year elsewheres.

BrianV
Mar 15, 11, 5:15 pm
I have had many problems with hertz as well in the last 4 months. All have been resolved-unresolved with the local hertz as corporate doesnt seem to give a rats .... They seem to own the brand and manage accounts with the outlets and thats it. If you have a problem, talk to the location, if they dont/cant resolve it, tuff luck. I have started too look at other vendors such as budget. As someone pumping out 300$ a week to hertz, and they cannot do a damn thing to help me, well I will take the 15k a year elsewheres.

Appreciate the comment. I'm going to try to entertain getting our smallish company with about 20 frequent travelers onto another platform. Hertz is nose-diving and usually they're one the more expensive rental companies anyways.


mmcdowell
Mar 16, 11, 9:04 am
Brian,

I honestly cannot feel anything but awful about the experiences that you described below. The pictures were broken images for me, but you've done enough describing them for me to have a mental image. To handle one of your points, I'm sorry. I actually am really and truly sorry that we have let you down like this. I'm not in customer service but I've made it a personal mission to help out customers any chance I get and this needs to be one. I do work at the HQ and have been very successful resolving situations like this in the past.

If you wouldn't mind doing me a favor. Please send me an e-mail with the pertinent details for each rental (NOT your credit card information) so that I can get this whole mess worked out for you. Include the pictures as attachments as well so that I can share them, especially the dirty car one.

Regarding the messy car, I can tell you that our CEO, Mark Frissora, cares very much about this issue and refuses to accept that any cars go out in poor condition.

Again, please accept my sincere apologies.

Mike
Hertz Car Rental (http://www.hertz.com/)

BrianV
Mar 16, 11, 1:17 pm
Thanks, sorry the pictures work for me. I'm traveling, but when I return on Friday, I will pull my receipts and email you. Appreciate it!

DCGooner
Mar 16, 11, 11:27 pm
Interesting. As soon as I saw that you had a problem at SNA on the 15th, I scrolled down to see if my family and I were in your picture. We're not, but I can corroborate your SNA horror story (right down to the Infiniti crossover SUV sitting near the entrance), as I was there at about noon myself. I'm a President's Circle member and my name wasn't on the board either. I dealt with a completely inept manager and spoke on the phone with an area manager who didn't seem all that concerned. It took us about a half hour to get our car, even though the area manager promised to intervene and speed things up.

If only other rental companies did status matching. I'd be out of Hertz in a heartbeat. I've had a number of rentals in a row now where I've had problems. Each time I get a "We're sorry for the inconvenience." Setting aside the dismissive nature of the phrase (which should be banished from customer service scripts), it doesn't exactly count as an inconvenience when a rental car company doesn't have a rental car ready for you -- it's a failure of the company's basic mission.

Hertz has ticked me off so bad that I'm writing my first post. As a dedicated lurker, this is really something.

BrianV
Mar 17, 11, 8:44 pm
Interesting. As soon as I saw that you had a problem at SNA on the 15th, I scrolled down to see if my family and I were in your picture. We're not, but I can corroborate your SNA horror story (right down to the Infiniti crossover SUV sitting near the entrance), as I was there at about noon myself. I'm a President's Circle member and my name wasn't on the board either. I dealt with a completely inept manager and spoke on the phone with an area manager who didn't seem all that concerned. It took us about a half hour to get our car, even though the area manager promised to intervene and speed things up.

If only other rental companies did status matching. I'd be out of Hertz in a heartbeat. I've had a number of rentals in a row now where I've had problems. Each time I get a "We're sorry for the inconvenience." Setting aside the dismissive nature of the phrase (which should be banished from customer service scripts), it doesn't exactly count as an inconvenience when a rental car company doesn't have a rental car ready for you -- it's a failure of the company's basic mission.

Hertz has ticked me off so bad that I'm writing my first post. As a dedicated lurker, this is really something.

Yup, that black FX-whatever looked really nice when they said I couldn't have an SUV despite reserving it. I am a youngish guy and I was wearing a BMW M3 black polo shirt. You didn't happen to be the guy in white who was trying to get a convertible (which you reserved) were you; he was working the counter for a solid 15-20 minutes, although he seemed to walk away pleased. Additionally, he stated he was PC.

I can also testify that 5-star is basically a worthless status. When they wrote my name on the clipboard, they noted me a GLD; they basically didn't designate me 5-star or anything. I think they wrote down status to help prioritize things.

I'm back home now, the return was painless and the little Camry pulled through, but the radio really sucked (poor reception and not satellite).

On another note, my original rate for the SUV was $74 per day, but I actually got my bill this morning and I was charged $47 per day. I totally didn't expect that, and it does ease the pain the slightest bit. I never complained about getting a fare reduction or that I was getting jipped, I just complained I didn't get an SUV which I ordered for a reason.

We'll see how Hertz SFO works for me next week; I bet I get another Kia Sedona; I always get those damn things there despite renting SUVs or fullsizes. Baby blue Sedona really has "cool" written all over it.

Cheers,
Brian

PS - I will email the Hertz guy who posted above, I would suggest you do to as our stories are very similar. After traveling for 6 hours, standing in a dark garage for 39 minutes is not right.

DCGooner
Mar 18, 11, 8:24 am
Nope, I wasn't the convertible guy. I was the one with 2 very tired kids just trying to get a full-size car and 2 booster seats. The manager let on that there were 5-6 PCs also waiting for cars. I think he meant that to prove that I wasn't being singularly screwed, but I just took that to mean that no one at SNA actually gives a crap about loyalty.

Admittedly, as the wait progressed I became not so nice to the staff -- the manager in particular -- in the hope that sharing the pain would get him to understand that you just don't treat your most loyal customers like that. Unfortunately, his attitude showed that he didn't really get it.

I finally got a high-mile Camry, which I cannot stand. Hertz's classification aside, it's not truly a full-size car and you're absolutely right about the radio. Also, I've rented way too many high-mile Camrys with brake and suspension problems. This one seems OK so far, but still has about 40k miles.

He wound up comp'ing the booster seats (at my insistence and only after a back and forth about it) and he threw in a $50 voucher for a future rental. Honestly, I don't care about the $50; I just want what I reserved given to me in a timely fashion and I don't mind paying for what I get.

BrianV
Mar 18, 11, 9:36 am
Nope, I wasn't the convertible guy. I was the one with 2 very tired kids just trying to get a full-size car and 2 booster seats. The manager let on that there were 5-6 PCs also waiting for cars. I think he meant that to prove that I wasn't being singularly screwed, but I just took that to mean that no one at SNA actually gives a crap about loyalty.

Admittedly, as the wait progressed I became not so nice to the staff -- the manager in particular -- in the hope that sharing the pain would get him to understand that you just don't treat your most loyal customers like that. Unfortunately, his attitude showed that he didn't really get it.

I finally got a high-mile Camry, which I cannot stand. Hertz's classification aside, it's not truly a full-size car and you're absolutely right about the radio. Also, I've rented way too many high-mile Camrys with brake and suspension problems. This one seems OK so far, but still has about 40k miles.

He wound up comp'ing the booster seats (at my insistence and only after a back and forth about it) and he threw in a $50 voucher for a future rental. Honestly, I don't care about the $50; I just want what I reserved given to me in a timely fashion and I don't mind paying for what I get.

I saw you, you got in the Camry closest to the sign. I recall the booster seat fiasco. I once had a 48k mile Camry at LAS, even had Advantage Rent-a-car key tags.

DCGooner
Mar 18, 11, 5:26 pm
Yeah, the booster seat fiasco. Part language barrier, part inattention to detail by Hertz, and part already-pissed-off customer. A terrible combination. Anyway, I've now spoken with the area manager and the general manager for So. Cal. airport locations. The area manager offered a significant discount on the rental but didn't understand why I wanted to pursue the matter upward regardless of compensation. He seemed to think that by accepting the discount he offered I would be agreeing to not escalate this above his level. This, of course, only made me want to go over the guy's head even more.

The G.M. seemed appropriately chagrined and we worked things out. The odd thing is that I called the guy at 7:30 PDT this morning thinking I'd get his voicemail and just talk to him when he called back. He picked up and apologetically asked if we could talk in a bit. Apparently Hertz gave me his cell number and the poor guy was just about to jump into the shower. If I had known it was his cell I would've waited for a more civilized time to call and I do feel a little bad about that.

BrianV
Mar 21, 11, 12:19 pm
Brian,

I honestly cannot feel anything but awful about the experiences that you described below. The pictures were broken images for me, but you've done enough describing them for me to have a mental image. To handle one of your points, I'm sorry. I actually am really and truly sorry that we have let you down like this. I'm not in customer service but I've made it a personal mission to help out customers any chance I get and this needs to be one. I do work at the HQ and have been very successful resolving situations like this in the past.

If you wouldn't mind doing me a favor. Please send me an e-mail at mmcdowell AT hertz.com with the pertinent details for each rental (NOT your credit card information) so that I can get this whole mess worked out for you. Include the pictures as attachments as well so that I can share them, especially the dirty car one.

Regarding the messy car, I can tell you that our CEO, Mark Frissora, cares very much about this issue and refuses to accept that any cars go out in poor condition.

Again, please accept my sincere apologies.

Mike McDowell
Innovation Architect
Hertz Car Rental (http://www.hertz.com/)

Email sent, thanks again!



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