Practical Travel Safety Issues - TSA 3 hours a week of training?
chollie
Mar 4, 11, 11:26 am
Did anyone notice the discussion about the 27 TSA baggage screeners in HNL who 'opted out' of screening bags?
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110303_TSA_investigates_officers_neglect_in_chec king_bags.html
According to Nico Melendez, "Training for the job includes about 40 hours in the classroom and as much as 60 hours of on-the-job training, Melendez said. Officers also go through three hours of training each week."
Three hours each week for training?
armattheus
Mar 4, 11, 11:30 am
Three hours each week for training?
They TSA high command has to keep changing the rules to circumnavigate our rights. Training on these new rules takes time.
Boggie Dog
Mar 4, 11, 11:36 am
source, who asked to not be named because the person is not authorized to release the information. The harshest penalty the workers face is dismissal. An internal review board will decide disciplinary actions on a case-by-case basis.
Dismissal is the harshest penalty? These people if guilty of dereliction of duties need to go to jail!
doober
Mar 4, 11, 11:41 am
Did anyone notice the discussion about the 27 TSA baggage screeners in HNL who 'opted out' of screening bags?
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110303_TSA_investigates_officers_neglect_in_chec king_bags.html
According to Nico Melendez, "Training for the job includes about 40 hours in the classroom and as much as 60 hours of on-the-job training, Melendez said. Officers also go through three hours of training each week."
Three hours each week for training?
Isn't that training on line and not in a "classroom" with an instructor?
Caradoc
Mar 4, 11, 11:51 am
Dismissal is the harshest penalty? These people if guilty of dereliction of duties need to go to jail!
I'd call punching in and failing to do the job "fraud" at the very least.
Isn't that training on line and not in a "classroom" with an instructor?
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
chollie
Mar 4, 11, 6:47 pm
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
It isn't 'in addition' to their duties if it is included in the 40 hour work week.
Quality LEO's don't need to spend nearly ten per cent of their work day playing around. Quality LEO's are expected to work for a living. Quality LEOs are expected to get their training right the first time around.
I wouldn't think a TDC really needs to spend three hours every week studying the fine points of the law when they still haven't mastered the website-posted list of acceptable IDs.
FaustsAccountant
Mar 4, 11, 6:50 pm
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.
DeafBlonde
Mar 4, 11, 6:54 pm
It isn't 'in addition' to their duties if it is included in the 40 hour work week.
Quality LEO's don't need to spend nearly ten per cent of their work day playing around. Quality LEO's are expected to work for a living. Quality LEOs are expected to get their training right the first time around.
I wouldn't think a TDC really needs to spend three hours every week studying the fine points of the law when they still haven't mastered the website-posted list of acceptable IDs.
tou·ché ^^^
DeafBlonde
Mar 4, 11, 7:01 pm
I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.
Thank God for that!!!:)
I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.
Didn't somebody just put up a video today wherein a screener was complaining about his employer changing the game so often that they can't keep up?
Mimi111
Mar 4, 11, 7:07 pm
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
And???
trvlr64
Mar 4, 11, 7:27 pm
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
Do you consider yourself in the same category as a true law enforcement officer?
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Do you consider yourself in the same category as a true law enforcement officer?
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He was an MP in the AF, don't cha know?
Scubatooth
Mar 4, 11, 7:42 pm
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.
You sure about that or are you talking out of a stinky orifice again. I know that LEOS locally get atleast that a week on average, and Fire and EMS getting more then that a week.
Considering the "quality" of see in the ilk TSA hires i would be surprised if it was 3 hours of training a quarter of bi-annual based on the amount of half assing and pulling of "laws" and "rules" out of thin air and posteriors.
trvlr64
Mar 4, 11, 7:50 pm
He was an MP in the AF, don't cha know?
Guess he couldn't get a job as a real LEO once he got out of the Air Force.
My 27 years in the radiology profession must qualify me to be a radiologist. :D
I'm going to walk in to the next hospital I work in next week and start reading those x-rays. Lord knows I look at enough of them everyday.
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Dismissal is the harshest penalty? These people if guilty of dereliction of duties need to go to jail!
I would love to hear others compared "worse case scenario?"
USPS dereliction of duties, "death"
VA dereliction of duties, "castration"
TSA dereliction of duties, "jail"
SSA dereliction of duties, "noogies"
;)
Caradoc
Mar 4, 11, 9:11 pm
Three hours each week for training?
Theoretically. (http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2010/11/17/tsa-training-lacking-investigators-find/) In reality, I'd be surprised if they get three hours a year after hiring.
If they are indeed getting three hours a week, their retention rates must be remarkably low if they can't even get things like washing their hands after using the restroom correct.
Boggie Dog
Mar 4, 11, 9:15 pm
Theoretically. (http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2010/11/17/tsa-training-lacking-investigators-find/) In reality, I'd be surprised if they get three hours a year after hiring.
If they are indeed getting three hours a week, their retention rates must be remarkably low if they can't even get things like washing their hands after using the restroom correct.
Thinking your right.
If 3 hours of training is getting logged I'm betting pencil whipping is the order of the day.