Fairmont President's Club - Fairmont Platinum Secrets - Friends of Ancien Maestro

I've taken some time to setup a Facebook Group for my Facebook friends to take advantage of knowledge regarding Fairmont President's Club that I have a difficult time sharing publicly. Some tips I've shared publicly, but only scratching a small part of the surface. Secrets that will give self realization and satisfaction as a loyal Fairmont President's Club Member.

Some topics include:
-How would a brand new FPC member earn 25 nights in a suite by staying just 5 nights, and three 3 free nights.. That's 60% off, plus suite upgrade certificates for 5 stays or 25 nights! Multiply this by 2, and earn 50 nights in a suite, and stay 6 free nights!
-Current FPC members just staying 10 nights a year, can perpetually stay in a suite guaranteed, and earn two free nights a year consistently.. Perpetually earning Elite Status year in and year out.
-Hawaii properties and what secrets to know when booking your next vacation.
-Just did this one.. Presidential Suites at a discount.. across multiple properties.
-Networking for Friends and Family Rates, and the future of Friends and Family Rates.
-Where do you get lifetime Fairmont President's Club Platinum Memberships?
-Networking with Fairmont Management.

For those who would like to take advantage of consistent up to date information regarding Fairmont Presidents' Club.. Please feel free to PM me for a Facebook Friends Link.^

Important.. Fairmont Friends and Family Rates offered by my contacts is crystallized at this time.. The program has been successful with over 3,000 PM handled messages.. We're going to take a breather..

I've set up a new FB group entitled Fairmont Platinum Secrets - Friends of Ancien Maestro (my real name). For those who are interested in secrets I have yet to share, nor would I be comfortable sharing publicly.. secrets that I'm only comfortable sharing to friends, please PM me for a Facebook Friends Link.

Thanks FTers for making the Friends and Family Program a continuing success!

I've taken some time to setup a Facebook Group for my Facebook friends to take advantage of knowledge regarding Fairmont President's Club that I have a difficult time sharing publicly. Some tips I've shared publicly, but only scratching a small part of the surface. Secrets that will give self realization and satisfaction as a loyal Fairmont President's Club Member.


Maybe it´s just me who is getting tired of yet another facebook site advertisment?

Most of the topics have been discussed here on FT and there´s no reason to keep it "secret". Each longtime Platinum member will likely have been successful in getting some special treatment over the years and may have established some contacts, but pretending as if this was available to anyone is pretty much nonsense IMO.


-How would a brand new FPC member earn 25 nights in a suite by staying just 5 nights, and three 3 free nights.. That's 60% off, plus suite upgrade certificates for 5 stays or 25 nights! Multiply this by 2, and earn 50 nights in a suite, and stay 6 free nights!

You could also multiply it by 4, and you´d earn 100 nights in a suite and 12 free nights.

Seriously, this has been discussed many times here on FT (key words "early qualification" and "Amex Plat 5 promo"):

1) 5 one-night stays gets you Premier status (1 suite upgrade cert valid for 5 nights and one third-night free cert), complete 5 stays before Sept. 15 and get instant Premier status
2) the Canadian AMEX Plat card offers Plat status after 5 nights, so after achieving Premier status you call Fairmont and ask to be upgraded to Platinum status (+ 2 upgrade certs and 1 free night)
3) Do steps 1 and 2 before Sept. 15 ("early qualification") and receive another Platinum kit the following year
=> total of 5 suite upgrade certs and 3 free nights

However, several sources have been telling me that PFC is getting rid of "early qualification", and I wouldn´t be surprised if some people abusing this benefit has something to do with this. As the benefits for the new benefit year haven´t been announced yet, nobody knows for sure.


-Current FPC members just staying 10 nights a year, can perpetually stay in a suite guaranteed, and earn two free nights a year consistently.. Perpetually earning Elite Status year in and year out.

Probably similar to #1, combining the AMEX Plat 5 promo (FPC Platinum status after 5 nights) with early qualification or a couple signing up for the promo (2x 5 nights, both earning FPC Plat status by signing up for the AMEX Plat 5 promo)


-Just did this one.. Presidential Suites at a discount.. across multiple properties.

Nothing new about this. As a Platinum it´s sometimes possible to negotiate a better suite (and less often the top suite) when:

- offering to book a higher room category than a Fairmont room and use a suite upgrade cert
- paying a fixed amount of $$$ plus suite upgrade cert
- staying at a property on a regular basis, do a lot of business with Fairmont etc. (or large wedding, meeting, conference etc.)
- special occasion
- or a combination of the above

While this sometimes is possible, I wouldn´t generally say it´s possible for anybody to get the best suite at a discount


-Where do you get lifetime Fairmont President's Club Platinum Memberships?

There is no official lifetime Platinum status program as far as I know (except for the recent error promo)

Apart from that the only two ways to get "lifetime status" are:
- having a Canadian AMEX Centurion card (Centurion members get comp. FPC Platinum status, but programs can and do change, so I wouldn´t call this "lifetime status")
- owning real estate at Fairmont Heritage places

Both options (especially #2) are not necessarily readily available to anyone.

Most of the "secrets" seem like hot air to me. Flyertalk is there to discuss the benefits of the program / share experiences etc. It´s not like there are many "loopholes" like fuel dumps, error rates etc. which need to be kept secret IMO.

Maybe it´s just me who is getting tired of yet another facebook site advertisment?

Most of the topics have been discussed here on FT and there´s no reason to keep it "secret". Each longtime Platinum member will likely have been successful in getting some special treatment over the years and may have established some contacts, but pretending as if this was available to anyone is pretty much nonsense IMO.
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I'm not saying that established contacts would be available to everyone.. There are contacts that I have that I will share with only friends, and that is the purpose of a Network Marketing Site. Facebook, currently houses many of the contacts that used my contacts for Friends and Family.. we have filled up 4 groups of 750 members apiece. The quota has been met and currently unavailable. Another purpose for Facebook is when and if a new Friends and Family setup is made available, I can contact Friends of Facebook, that Friends and Family group is again available.. All the while, my friends are enjoying strategies of self realization as an FPC member from what information I do not share on public forums.


You could also multiply it by 4, and you´d earn 100 nights in a suite and 12 free nights.

Seriously, this has been discussed many times here on FT (key words "early qualification" and "Amex Plat 5 promo"):

1) 5 one-night stays gets you Premier status (1 suite upgrade cert valid for 5 nights and one third-night free cert), complete 5 stays before Sept. 15 and get instant Premier status
2) the Canadian AMEX Plat card offers Plat status after 5 nights, so after achieving Premier status you call Fairmont and ask to be upgraded to Platinum status (+ 2 upgrade certs and 1 free night)
3) Do steps 1 and 2 before Sept. 15 ("early qualification") and receive another Platinum kit the following year
=> total of 5 suite upgrade certs and 3 free nights

However, several sources have been telling me that PFC is getting rid of "early qualification", and I wouldn´t be surprised if some people abusing this benefit has something to do with this. As the benefits for the new benefit year haven´t been announced yet, nobody knows for sure.
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Did you know early qualification has been one of FPC's mainstays since at least 02.. FPC only started advertising it recently.. running into difficulties when all members, not just new members were sent kits.. that is why FPC is running into problems, not because of abuse.

The above is true.. but my wife and I have only stayed in suites since 02, except for a few signature rooms in YVR (suite designated category).. Every stay, everywhere we go, we've only stayed in suites. It is this type of information, I will not share publicly on this forum, but privately to friends.


Probably similar to #1, combining the AMEX Plat 5 promo (FPC Platinum status after 5 nights) with early qualification or a couple signing up for the promo (2x 5 nights, both earning FPC Plat status by signing up for the AMEX Plat 5 promo)
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This is not an AMEX promo, but a stategy available today for any base or elite member of FPC. This info, I've already journalized within the Fairmont Platinum Secrets Group.


Nothing new about this. As a Platinum it´s sometimes possible to negotiate a better suite (and less often the top suite) when:

- offering to book a higher room category than a Fairmont room and use a suite upgrade cert
- paying a fixed amount of $$$ plus suite upgrade cert
- staying at a property on a regular basis, do a lot of business with Fairmont etc. (or large wedding, meeting, conference etc.)
- special occasion
- or a combination of the above

While this sometimes is possible, I wouldn´t generally say it´s possible for anybody to get the best suite at a discount
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I have a private Platinum concierge and have made available to many private inquiries guaranteed bookings of specialty suites at a reduced rate using a suite upgrad certificate. Upon availability, any elite member can book specialty suites. Contact info I'm only comfortable sharing with friends. Join the group and get access. I've received positive feedback on specialty suite booked through my contact.. including a very special booking of the Banff Springs Presidential Suite for my Doctor friend and five kids the past weekend. BTW, 919 is nicest Suite in Western Canada, and possibly North America. It was nice hanging up there.. getting a big thank you from a close friend.^


There is no official lifetime Platinum status program as far as I know (except for the recent error promo)

Apart from that the only two ways to get "lifetime status" are:
- having a Canadian AMEX Centurion card (Centurion members get comp. FPC Platinum status, but programs can and do change, so I wouldn´t call this "lifetime status")
- owning real estate at Fairmont Heritage places

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Its important to me to share this type of information only to friends. Jasper2009, the info you've quoted, I've actually initially offered on this forum, but only touches the surface of the true intrinsic value IMO.

A list of Other Topics:
-Market Demand Algorithms, understanding the Fairmont pricing methods to obtain the best possible offered rate
-Upgrade on an upgrade.. yes, even on suites
-Best Western rates for a suite at a 5* Fairmont.. Turning Moments to Memories without blowing the Budget..
-Maestro's review of the many suites throughout Banff Springs

I don't get it, you have said multiple times throughout this thread: "only to friends", "share only with my friends"...

You are talking about facebook "friends", right?

So I'm not really clear what you mean about "not revealing 'secrets' to the public". :confused:

There is some information I'm not willing to share publicly, but are helpful which I don't mind sharing with friends. Sort of like sharing certain info with SO, that you wouldn't share necessarily to the public. I'm in the process of journalizing topics at a deeper level, that I would be uncomfortable sharing publicly. It's available, just as Friend and Family Rates were for the 9 months I've offered.. via management of social networking site. The overwhelming success of Friends and Family, makes it manageable through Facebook, to make available different offerings as they become available (i.e. friends and family rates).

I don't get it, you have said multiple times throughout this thread: "only to friends", "share only with my friends"...

You are talking about facebook "friends", right?

So I'm not really clear what you mean about "not revealing 'secrets' to the public". :confused:

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I don´t see the difference between posting something on Flyertalk and posting it on a Facebook site with hundreds of anonymous members (which you then seem to consider "friends")

I´d see the point of only sharing some info with personal/close friends (e.g. "I know (name) at Fairmont, e-mail address: ........, and arranged the Penthouse suite at Fairmont (name) for $150 + suite upgrade cert for these dates etc."), but as far as knowledge about FPC is concerned I really don´t see the point.

I'm in the process of journalizing topics at a deeper level, that I would be uncomfortable sharing publicly.

Once again, I´d like to ask: Why would you be uncomfortable sharing this info on FT, but are more than happy to share it with hundreds of people you don´t know on Facebook?

Why not just post it on FT, or create a publically accessable blog? I´m sure some of the topics you mentioned would be worth discussing here as some other FTer may have some input/personal experience etc.

I don´t see the difference between posting something on Flyertalk and posting it on a Facebook site with hundreds of anonymous members (which you then seem to consider "friends").

This is not the case.. You are overstating the number of anonymous friends.. In fact, there will be no anonymous members accepted into this new group. Again, you make some assmptions with no basis.


I´d see the point of only sharing some info with personal/close friends (e.g. "I know (name) at Fairmont, e-mail address: ........, and arranged the Penthouse suite at Fairmont (name) for $150 + suite upgrade cert for these dates etc."), but as far as knowledge about FPC is concerned I really don´t see the point.
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I've been advised that Fairmont central office regularly reads these pages. I'm not comfortable sharing information past a point. Personal friends yes, that demonstrate mutual respect and a certain level of trust.. I believe Fairmont to an extent appreciates my sharing of experiences, especially since we stayed as a couple 64 nights last year at Fairmonts.. qualifying through nights, and not stays.. as it will result in increased patronage in their programs. Past the line of comfort, I am not prepared to discuss my experiences publicly.


Once again, I´d like to ask: Why would you be uncomfortable sharing this info on FT, but are more than happy to share it with hundreds of people you don´t know on Facebook?
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It's a public forum, and I've never felt comfortable expressing these ideas publicly. With the success of Friends and Family rates, and the infrastructure setup.. the appreciation level is extraordinarily high behind the scenes. I've become comfortable sharing in a forum that extends sincere appreciation for the knowledge that I share.


Why not just post it on FT, or create a publically accessable blog? I´m sure some of the topics you mentioned would be worth discussing here as some other FTer may have some input/personal experience etc.

I have posted and will continue to contribute where I feel comfortable.. It's the information I never did feel comfortable sharing publicly, that I'm currently working to journalize. There are topics I won't even list here because I don't feel comfortable, but to the group members that have initially joined all I can say is that they are benefitting immediately.. highly positive feedback has been received.

Thanks FTers for the initial overwhelming response.. enjoy elite membership and the savings!

This thread reminds me of a commercial on TV.;):rolleyes:

Guy talking to two children.......

I like the idea of a FB group for this. If someone who is willing to help others would like to do it this way then why not? Count me in. ^

This thread reminds me of a commercial on TV.;):rolleyes:

Guy talking to two children.......

Nothing Commercial offered here.. otherwise it would not conform to FT TOS. I've never made a cent in any of the offerings.

edit -wrong thread!

This thread reminds me of a commercial on TV.;):rolleyes:

Guy talking to two children.......

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A really bad infomercial. I have 600 "friends" on facebook. Maybe I will share all of my frequent flyer knowledge with them and then post how helpful and contributing to them I am on flyertalk. Is that something you all would be interested to hear? No? I'm shocked....

+1

A really bad infomercial. I have 600 "friends" on facebook. Maybe I will share all of my frequent flyer knowledge with them and then post how helpful and contributing to them I am on flyertalk. Is that something you all would be interested to hear? No? I'm shocked....

I'll let you in on a secret.. you don't have to get involved and I'll 100% respect that.

I've been on the outside looking in on deals.. the site provides info so that those who are inside can look out. Its' a stomach bottom problem feeling missing out on deals and that's why we're all on FT.

This thread reminds me of a commercial on TV.;):rolleyes:

Guy talking to two children.......

Hey acysb87! I was reading one of your old posts from this link..

Fairmont about to Destroy Platinum Program
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/fairmont-presidents-club/527037-fairmont-plat-benefits-cut-50-beginning-2-06-a.html

Another post acysb87
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/fairmont-presidents-club/499236-fairmont-benefits-2006-oh-dear.html

What's your experience since the 06 program change?. You went through the armageddon phase, just like we did. The old changes was a complete non-starter in the beginning when Jon Mamela was director of FPC, and then poof half of the incentives gone, plus our massage, ski lift ticket, and round of golf. Wow! The memories of our original beloved program.. dissolved.:)

I've got to agree with you on your posts in the link above.. I ended up cancelling quite a few stays after that fiasco.. it took a couple of more years, for us, but we did stick with the program.. but as I said, we're moving from traditional qualification as I mentioned on the other thread..

Seems like the new method is booking through special agents, AMEX Plat5.. The FPC program is 25% of what it once was prior to 06.

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A really bad infomercial. I have 600 "friends" on facebook. Maybe I will share all of my frequent flyer knowledge with them and then post how helpful and contributing to them I am on flyertalk. Is that something you all would be interested to hear? No? I'm shocked....

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Would you share a secret treasure map with your 600 "friends"? Just curious.

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Would you share a secret treasure map with your 600 "friends"? Just curious.

Let alone 16,000 people here on Flyer Talk? Everyone has different levels of privacy, we all know that.. human nature.. including myself.

Amongst naysayers, there are 3,000 PMs addressing the Manual NFAF deal.. we filled the 4 groups, and those groups continue to book savings. Savings and bookings continue as we speak. Hence "secret profiles" for "secret" groups.. you actually can't see these Manual NFAF groups anymore. Serious.:)

Let alone 16,000 people here on Flyer Talk?

16K? Try 319,866 FT members which is the latest number shown on the FT home page.

16K? Try 319,866 FT members which is the latest number shown on the FT home page.

Thanks.. bit surreal the number, but glad to contribute to so many.^

Thanks.. bit surreal the number, but glad to contribute to so many.^

Well, not about the secrets anyway, right? ;)

I don't understand all the bashing.

I've been fortunate enough to take advantage of the NFAF/Facebook rates which Ancien Maestro has mentioned in his threads. There were detractors on those threads too.

Thanks A.M. for posting this information. For those of you who don't find the information useful, that's unfortunate.

I don't understand all the bashing.

I've been fortunate enough to take advantage of the NFAF/Facebook rates which Ancien Maestro has mentioned in his threads. There were detractors on those threads too.

Thanks A.M. for posting this information. For those of you who don't find the information useful, that's unfortunate.
Agreed! This is helpful information and if I have to go through the terribly exhausting steps of sending a PM + joining a FB group to get in touch with friends who will help book these stays, so be it :)

You'd be surprised at how many people think that's too much work and don't bother, even though the savings are significant and it creates/retains loyal customers for Fairmont.

I don't understand all the bashing.

I've been fortunate enough to take advantage of the NFAF/Facebook rates which Ancien Maestro has mentioned in his threads. There were detractors on those threads too.

Thanks A.M. for posting this information. For those of you who don't find the information useful, that's unfortunate.

Agreed.

I, for one, appreciate the information as not being as "in the know" perhaps as some who seem to be naysayers. I have benefitted by saving several hundreds of dollars through the information and connections that Ancien Maestro has provided and very much appreciate it.

For those that don't perceive any value in it why not just move along as though there's nothing to see here and leave this to those who do perceive some value?

For those that don't perceive any value in it why not just move along as though there's nothing to see here

Well, there is nothing to see here and to me that's the whole point, and don't misread that to suggest there is no value to the secret strategies just that it isn't visible here on FT.

The manual NFAF was at least launched from here on FT which can't be said of this ancient secret society which seeks to simultaneously bypass and attract FTers, a curious trick.

So that's my POV and I am not against OP having a secret FB page discussing Fairmont tricks, just uncomfortable with using FT as a promotional platform. Just MHO and YMMV.

Well, there is nothing to see here and to me that's the whole point, and don't misread that to suggest there is no value to the secret strategies just that it isn't visible here on FT.
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So that's my POV and I am not against OP having a secret FB page discussing Fairmont tricks, just uncomfortable with using FT as a promotional platform. Just MHO and YMMV.

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There´s nothing wrong with a private Facebook page, I just don´t see the point of discussing it here. (IMO the signature line advertising the site is more than sufficient)

Well, there is nothing to see here and to me that's the whole point, and don't misread that to suggest there is no value to the secret strategies just that it isn't visible here on FT.

The manual NFAF was at least launched from here on FT which can't be said of this ancient secret society which seeks to simultaneously bypass and attract FTers, a curious trick.

So that's my POV and I am not against OP having a secret FB page discussing Fairmont tricks, just uncomfortable with using FT as a promotional platform. Just MHO and YMMV.

I think there are two factions here.. and both factions have relevant view points.

IMO.. I think you missed the point of the FTers who have saved money. Their opinion is this secret group saves money as well.

If you want to save money great, then join the Secret Society.. for those who don't want to save money, Shenanigans point is to ignore this thread and move on. To Join the Secret Society, PM me for a Facebook Friends Link.

IMO.. I think you missed the point of the FTers who have saved money. Their opinion is this secret group saves money as well.

If you want to save money great, then join the Secret Society.. for those who don't want to save money, Shenanigans point is to ignore this thread and move on. To Join the Secret Society, PM me for a Facebook Friends Link.

No, I think you're missing the point I was making which is unlike the manual NFAF which was run through FT that's definately not the case with this new venture. It's a curious twist to seek to both attract FTers while at the same time bypassing FT. My objection has zero to do with those wanting to save dollars or whether there is a real value in the secret society just how you've chosen to promote it by using FT as free advertising.

FWIW for the more recent FT arrivals I long lobbied for the creation of a Fairmont forum to openly discuss our interest & passion for this chain and I'm uncomfortable with it being sidelined in such an open fashion. We're all free to do as we see fit and it's by that token I'm free to express my opinion that it's not something with which I agree.

No, I think you're missing the point I was making which is unlike the manual NFAF which was run through FT that's definately not the case with this new venture. It's a curious twist to seek to both attract FTers while at the same time bypassing FT. My objection has zero to do with those wanting to save dollars or whether there is a real value in the secret society just how you've chosen to promote it by using FT as free advertising.

FWIW for the more recent FT arrivals I long lobbied for the creation of a Fairmont forum to openly discuss our interest & passion for this chain and I'm uncomfortable with it being sidelined in such an open fashion. We're all free to do as we see fit and it's by that token I'm free to express my opinion that it's not something with which I agree.

I appreciate your contribution to this forum.. really I do..

To clarify, I'm not making a cent on anything, and I'm making available a public contribution that would otherwise not be available.

I'm here to contribute, and I can assure all this format is necessary.

Again, I offer this openly to FTers for those who are interested. There has only been positive feedback from the 3,000+ PM inquiries (as sampled in this thread), and there has been enormous savings and benefits enjoyed. I believe this is in the spirit of FT.

I'm making available a public contribution that would otherwise not be available.

You may have with the expired manual NFAF deal but this "secret" society is definately not a public contribution by your own design.

I believe this is in the spirit of FT.

:confused: How can using FT to promote something you don't want to make public on FT be in the spirit of FT? If that's putting it a little too bluntly so be it but to me it seems to simply using FT as a pied piper to promote and lure users to this offsite venture and to me that can hardly in FT's best interests.

BTW I've never inferred in this forum you do make anything on these deals and do agree evreyone is able to decide for themselves whether to opt in on the deal or not. My objection strictly is to using FT as a promotional tool.

You may have with the expired manual NFAF deal but this "secret" society is definately not a public contribution by your own design.



:confused: How can using FT to promote something you don't want to make public on FT be in the spirit of FT? If that's putting it a little too bluntly so be it but to me it seems to simply using FT as a pied piper to promote and lure users to this offsite venture and to me that can hardly in FT's best interests.

BTW I've never inferred in this forum you do make anything on these deals and do agree evreyone is able to decide for themselves whether to opt in on the deal or not. My objection strictly is to using FT as a promotional tool.

Again.. There is no basis of fact, because you haven't seen the group.. You are making certain assumptions.

The group is a continuation of Manual NFAF in place of the previous employee groups.. The savings are the same. Not only is savings are the same, but there is additional benefits outlined in the group that is otherwise not available anywhere. You're right to wondering using the icon.. I would too.. But let's draw conclusions based on fact.

I'm here to contribute to those who are interested.. I've helped thousands.. But I guess its not for everybody and that's ok.

Continuation? To this reader you seemed to draw a fairly distinct line between the old manual NFAF and this new venture in this post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15934125-post224.html) where you talk about one closing and the other opening.

Fairmont Friends and Family Rates offered by my contacts is crystallized at this time.. The program has been successful with over 3,000 PM handled messages.. We're going to take a breather.. keep posted for future Friends and Family offerings.

I've set up a new FB group entitled Fairmont Platinum Secrets

What else is one supposed to assume other than they are separate things? Going by your own words that seemed to me a reasonable assumption yet now you're saying there actually one & the same thing, one a continuation of the other. Seems to me you are moving everything off FT and not even bothering to use it as a contact point as you did with the manual NFAF.

And you still seem not to get that I don't begrudge you offering these deals as I don't. I do begrudge you using FT to advertise members go elsewhere as sending folks away from FT seems to hardly be beneficial to this site. Everyone is of course entitled to their opinions and I respect yours but these are mine. I'll leave it at that and wish you well with your endeavours. :)

Continuation? To this reader you seemed to draw a fairly distinct line between the old manual NFAF and this new venture in this post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15934125-post224.html) where you talk about one closing and the other opening.



What else is one supposed to assume other than they are separate things? Going by your own words that seemed to me a reasonable assumption yet now you're saying there actually one & the same thing, one a continuation of the other. Seems to me you are moving everything off FT and not even bothering to use it as a contact point as you did with the manual NFAF.

And you still seem not to get that I don't begrudge you offering these deals as I don't. I do begrudge you using FT to advertise members go elsewhere as sending folks away from FT seems to hardly be beneficial to this site. Everyone is of course entitled to their opinions and I respect yours but these are mine. I'll leave it at that and wish you well with your endeavours. :)

Thanks for the forward,

That's why its all a secret.. No one would truly understands unless they join.. I can assure you that there is no luring away here.. The opportunity presented here is to enhance knowledge, and hence enhance savings and understanding of benefits greatly.

I stand by my quote above from the other thread, but I assure you its a continuation of the same savings.. No more, no less.. The same.. And probably even more savings as understanding of benefits increases. Knowledge and understanding is power. Sometimes exclusivity empowers and prolongs opportunity.

Anyways, simply privacy is key, <comments removed by moderator> definitely not some sort of hidden business.. Its all pro bono, thus enjoy the savings and I'm glad I can continue to contribute here on FT.:)

References have been made to senior moderators taking advantage of the FaceBook page and any tips offered there. I want to clarify that some senior moderators joined the site to make sure there were no obvious commercial solicitations that would violate the FT rules. I have checked with the senior moderators and none have used tips/rate codes on the site and there is no implied endorsement.

l'etoile
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Definitely no endorsement by Flyer Talk absolutely. All info within site follows TOS and will continue to do so as monitored by Flyer Talk moderators. I cannot emphasize enough to all FTers.. please keep all information strictly confidential. Thanks.

For those interested in accessing Fairmont Platinum Secrets - Friends of Ancien Maestro.. please Private Message me for a Facebook Friends Link.^

Updated.. Current Program Benefits

New Article.. seems like there is little knowledge regarding Fairmont President's Club Elite Level Fairmont President's Circle. Insider info about FPC's elite club can be found at Fairmont Platinum Secrets - Friends of Maestro

PM me for a Facebook Friends Link.. and Enjoy the Savings! :cool:

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Back from Spring Break Vacation.. Some newly updated articles in the group..

-Upgrade on an Upgrade
-Perpetual Single or Double Member Premier in a Suite plus Fast Track
-Booking Checklist Reference

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