Cruises - Cruise passengers got a busts illegal drugs on the ship

Good riddance to him and he shouldn't allows to brings illegal drugs into cruise ships and one of passenger is already arrested in St. Thomas, USVI. He could go to jails for existence rest miserable life. So here the linked:

http://news.travel.aol.com/2011/02/17/are-drugs-on-cruise-ships-on-the-rise/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-w%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk1%7C202388

Customs dogs is now to searching everywhere on the cruise ships and the security is really very tighter. Customs dogs is now to checked the drugs on the cruise ships. All luggage will have be x-ray before enter into United States. No one ever allowed to brings illegal drugs into USA without explanations from security officers.

What an idiot the guy was. The fact that he was *dealing* out his cabin was even more stupid. I'm glad they busted him.

Maritime law is federal law and all drugs such as this remain illegal under federal law, if this is the jurisdictional law of these cruise ships according to their passenger contracts. Stupid state "medical" exception illegal drug use laws do not and shall not apply under federal maritime law.

ToO bad that someone doing chem cant take legitimate medicine on what might be their last cruise. A few spoil it for all

ToO bad that someone doing chem cant take legitimate medicine on what might be their last cruise. A few spoil it for all

Smoking pot is not "legitimate medicine". The only pot that has been tested is prescription forms like Marinol that are dose specific and not smoked. Cut the pot as "medicine" fraud. It is not and there is no legitimate use for smoked anything as a medicine. It is an illegal recreational intoxicant under federal and that is all that it is. Every medical claim made for smoked or ingested pot is a lie. Sorry, look up the PubMed research yourself.

Smoking pot is not "legitimate medicine". The only pot that has been tested is prescription forms like Marinol that are dose specific and not smoked. Cut the pot as "medicine" fraud. It is not and there is no legitimate use for smoked anything as a medicine. It is an illegal recreational intoxicant under federal and that is all that it is. Every medical claim made for smoked or ingested pot is a lie. Sorry, look up the PubMed research yourself.

Rubbish.

The federal government should have absolutely no say as to how adults choose to treat an illness or what recreational drugs, if any, they wish to use.

It's time to wipe both the federal drug laws and the DEA off the books permanently.

Rubbish.

The federal government should have absolutely no say as to how adults choose to treat an illness or what recreational drugs, if any, they wish to use.

It's time to wipe both the federal drug laws and the DEA off the books permanently.

Im amazed by your reply.

But Im 100% with you^

I haven't read the link- but the idea from the op that "life" is appropriate for pot use is insane. Even if there were zero medical use (and the evidence that pot use is a huge help to people in chemo is overwhelming), there is no rational reason for a society to decide that some intoxicants are just fine (alchohol), while use of another with FAR FEWER health risk deserves jail time.

One nice side affect of the widespread financial crises in state goverments is that some states are reconsidering draconian prison sentences for recreational drug use. Kentucky (my state) just put into place a law redirecting virtually all first/second time drug "offenders" into "treatment" rather than expensive jail.

I pray for the day when our nation stops ruining the lives of millions by prosecuting them for drug use.

After reading this news, I'm kind of wondering... From a strictly legal point of view, could a cruise line be allowed to sell drugs to passengers while in international waters? Of course the drugs would have to be loaded on the ship after it would have exited territorial waters...

Oh, I can see a market for that! A bit like the casino ships that only offer gaming off shore....

15 years ago, I was on an HAL cruise with a group of friends (a card player poker group trip). Several people were able to obtain cannibis onboard via ship staff. I have not seen even a hint of this in recent years.

Maritime law is federal law and all drugs such as this remain illegal under federal law, if this is the jurisdictional law of these cruise ships according to their passenger contracts. Stupid state "medical" exception illegal drug use laws do not and shall not apply under federal maritime law.

I thought that maritime law was based on the country that the ship is flagged under.

For most of these ships it would then be Panama or the Bahamas.

Well, the article begins with "A cruise passenger was arrested in St. Thomas last week after federal agents found a load of party drugs he was allegedly dealing from his cabin..."

I haven't read the link- but the idea from the op that "life" is appropriate for pot use is insane. Even if there were zero medical use (and the evidence that pot use is a huge help to people in chemo is overwhelming), there is no rational reason for a society to decide that some intoxicants are just fine (alchohol), while use of another with FAR FEWER health risk deserves jail time.

One nice side affect of the widespread financial crises in state goverments is that some states are reconsidering draconian prison sentences for recreational drug use. Kentucky (my state) just put into place a law redirecting virtually all first/second time drug "offenders" into "treatment" rather than expensive jail.

I pray for the day when our nation stops ruining the lives of millions by prosecuting them for drug use.

Your point? I have now read the article, which nowhere defines what is meant by "party drugs", but states that most cruise ship busts are for pot. I am still stunned that anyone rational thinks that selling pot or a "party drug" (whatever that may be) deserves a life prison sentence. It is punitive, pointless and a massive waste of resources.

I did not advocate for a "life sentence" anywhere, so please do not misattribute my words or meaning.

Well, the article begins with "A cruise passenger was arrested in St. Thomas last week after federal agents found a load of party drugs he was allegedly dealing from his cabin..."

"Party drugs" are law enforcement speak for speed, ice, coke, crystal meth, marijuana, GHB, flunitrazepam / rohypnol, LSD AKA acid, ketamine and ecstasy / MDMA (ecstasy being the one most often named as a club or party drug). These are often used on unsuspecting individuals, are often "spiked" (marijuana can be easily adulterated with other substances, such as PCP / phencyclidine and methamphetamine).

These are sometimes life threatening, used for "date rape" etc. and some make users more susceptible to HIV infection; anyone pushing these should be penalized. I've spent too many hours working with people who have been victims or seropositive. That's my point.

(In Singapore and a few other nations, the individual would qualify for a death sentence, by the way.)

Your point? I have now read the article, which nowhere defines what is meant by "party drugs", but states that most cruise ship busts are for pot. I am still stunned that anyone rational thinks that selling pot or a "party drug" (whatever that may be) deserves a life prison sentence. It is punitive, pointless and a massive waste of resources.

You think marijuana is "often pushed on unsuspecting" victims? Really? Of course drugging someone without their knowledge in order to rape them should be illegal-- But that has nothing to do with the discussion here regarding the silliness of making some recreational drugs (pot, cocaine) highly illegal while others, far more damaging (cigarettes, booze) are perfectly legal.


The OP posted that the person arrested should spend the rest of his life in jail. That was the "life sentence" I was referring to.

Rubbish.

The federal government should have absolutely no say as to how adults choose to treat an illness or what recreational drugs, if any, they wish to use.

It's time to wipe both the federal drug laws and the DEA off the books permanently.

Should change your name to Spliff.

Obviously, you do not know very much about this topic - but ask rape victims who have been slipped rohypnol or GHB, or folks who thought they were buying marijuana but got a dose of marijuana with speed, LSD or even PCP - or the residents of Ohio towns where drug deaths exceed traffic deaths by 400%. You act as if these are knowledgeable people, giving informed consent - never mind the killings and literal wars on civilians in Mexico and Central America, mainly because of drugs being trafficked to the ultimate end users in the USA.

When you deal with the aftermath of addiction and the consequences of drug crime for a few decades, I may listen to you. For now, this post is more for those who are unaware of what the scene actually entails.

This is not about legalization or other ways of handling drug use that work in some European countries, this is about an idiot who chose to violate laws and rules to put others at risk because of his greed.

You think marijuana is "often pushed on unsuspecting" victims? Really? Of course drugging someone without their knowledge in order to rape them should be illegal-- But that has nothing to do with the discussion here regarding the silliness of making some recreational drugs (pot, cocaine) highly illegal while others, far more damaging (cigarettes, booze) are perfectly legal.


The OP posted that the person arrested should spend the rest of his life in jail. That was the "life sentence" I was referring to.

You seem to be confusing very different subjects-- consenting adults buying/selling/using drugs is quite different from the drugging of someone without their consent. The possible addictiveness of a particular drug is quite a separate issue from the violence that inevitably emerges when a product people want is criminalized (think of the massive mob violence that surrounded alchohol dealing during prohibition).

The two major issues you cite that I agree with- violence and substance purity, would both be solved though the rational legalization of most currently illegal drugs.

Addiction cannot be solved through making a substance illegal. As the deaths in Ohio show (mostly through abuse of prescription opiod use, BTW), removing easy access to one set of drugs only increases the use of others.

As to the "greed" of the seller-- Isn't that what capitalism is all about? Making a profit through the sale of a product or service? Why is his greed worse than the greed of the tobacco industry, big pharma, brown&forman, etc. etc.?

In before this goes to OMNI which I suspect happens @ ~ 4:20 today

In before this goes to OMNI which I suspect happens @ ~ 4:20 today

Nooooo... another thread I won't be able to follow.

obviously, anyone who is drugged against their will is the victim of a serious crime. that being said, the government should have no right to say what i can put in my body: ketamine, MDMA, crystal, weed, 3C-B, mephadrone, or alcohol. .... 'em.

Obviously, you do not know very much about this topic - but ask rape victims who have been slipped rohypnol or GHB, or folks who thought they were buying marijuana but got a dose of marijuana with speed, LSD or even PCP - or the residents of Ohio towns where drug deaths exceed traffic deaths by 400%. You act as if these are knowledgeable people, giving informed consent - never mind the killings and literal wars on civilians in Mexico and Central America, mainly because of drugs being trafficked to the ultimate end users in the USA.
If it would be legalised it could be regulated so that kind of stuff doesn't get mixed in. Prices would also fall and those south of the border wouldn't be so eager to kill someone over something that from a business perspective is no different than any other crop.