US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - Survey--Who would re-qualify?

I've been out of town for a few days so maybe this has already been discussed. That said, out of curiosity, who would re-qualify for elite status if the new rules were in effect this year.

Current Status: Silver
Expected 2003 Status: Silver

Under new rules my 2003 status: NONE

Current : GP
Expected : CP
Under new rules : SP (includes VISA 10K)
Under new rules + new corporate US policy : NONE

Current : GP
Expected : SP
Under new rules : None

Current Status: CP
Status for '03: CP

Status under the new rules: ZERO... I guess its people like me who are the real problem, eh?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kv99:
Current Status: CP
Status for '03: CP

Status under the new rules: ZERO... I guess its people like me who are the real problem, eh?</font>

ditto

That's why nobody else is doing this. It leaves nothing for the frequent customer in the midrange, who can't (or wishes not to)always pay full fare. There's an old saying, you have to kiss them before you f*** them. I'm afraid there's no foreplay at USAir.

Current Status: GP
'03 Status: CP
Status under new Rules: Zero - (zero miles) guess I'm not wanted as a customer either!

Will ANYONE qualify for Chairman's under the new rules? It just suddenly struck me -- ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES on a fare basis higher than H. Jesus, that's really tough.

Edited to add -- I've bought a fair number of Ys, Bs, and Ms, and in some years I MIGHT have made it to silver on those, but Chairmans'? No way...

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I don't think I've ever bought a fare higher then H. Zero here, too.

Current status: Gold
Expected status: Gold

Status with changes in program: NONE

I've been a US2/Priority Gold Plus since 1994, US frequent flyer program member
since 1985...

You guys do realize that this just confirms their opinion that we're a bunch of whining cry-babies who only care about perks?

FWIW though --

Current: CP
New Rules: Peon (I might make Silver)

I did have a couple of years where I made CP on fairly high end tickets -- those circumstances don't exist today but you can bet that if they ever come back those dollars won't be going to an airline that treats me like this.

Current status: CP
Expected status: CP
This year under the new rules: SP-Y and M.
Next year under the new rules: Nada

This is because my travel patterns vary each year except for heavy East Coast, mostly DCA or LGA, and those are on discounted fares as are all my leisure trips.

I guess this CP is getting too many "perks" on the Dash 8 flights and needs to be shown the door.

Current Status: CP (made it 2 weeks ago)
Expected Status: CP
This year's status, if the new rules had been in effect all year: Platinum on DL
Next year, if the new rules stay in effect all year: no paid flights on US

Current Status: CP 2x over
Expected 2003 Status: CP as of 1/1/02 with carry-over - see above

Under new rules my 2003 status: Nada, Squat, Didly (well, maybe Silver if I choose US when I have a choice, but that ain't gonna happen)

Current Status: CP
Future Status: None--I won't fly this airline unless they are the only one serving the market

Current: SP
Expected: SP

Under new rules (ie '04): None

'04 if they rescind new rules: None, because I plan on spending the next year cashing out my Dividend Miles on reward flights as much as possible.

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Current : GP
Expected : GP
Under new rules : None! Even though I am going to school in PHL and there is a direct flight home, I will begin to fly other carriers begining January 1, 2003.

How many 18-year-olds can say that?

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This year I am two flights away from Gold. Next year I probably won't even make silver. If they don't want my business guess it is time to find another airline.

This year: CP


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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TomBascom:
[B]You guys do realize that this just confirms their opinion that we're a bunch of whining cry-babies who only care about perks?
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Tom, maybe we are cry-babies and maybe FT is not really representative of the real flying population, but I think it is instructive to know how few of us would actually achieve some real status on USAirways under the new rules, IF we even continue to give them our business...

Current Year - GP (CP this weekend)
Next year with new rules - Nada (The day I pay from my own pocket more than a V/K fare for a ticket is the day I go to another airline)

I still think they are going to ditch upgrades on V fares, too. Just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Current - GP
2003 - CP
Under new rules - DM
US FTP member since 1988 (still have the card).

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kv99:
Tom, maybe we are cry-babies and maybe FT is not really representative of the real flying population, but I think it is instructive to know how few of us would actually achieve some real status on USAirways under the new rules, IF we even continue to give them our business...
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Oh I agree. Just pointing out what their limitless talent to take the wrong message away from any information source is likely to result in.

Currently Silver
2003 will be silver
Been silver since 1998

Under new rules, no status. Unless my company changes their policy, which they are considering due to the new restrictions on discounted fares. Until now, we've been asked to buy non-refundables to save costs and risk the change fees

Current : GP
Expected 2003 Status : CP

Going back to AA's fold the moment I move out of MYR.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rd7242:
... Unless my company changes their policy, which they are considering due to the new restrictions on discounted fares. Until now, we've been asked to buy non-refundables to save costs and risk the change fees</font>

Wrong move! That's what they want to happen. On behalf of your shareholders and in the interest of preserving your job (by way of keeping your company in business through careful stewardship of travel dollars) urge your company to seek another carrier rather than give in to this outrageous extortion.

This year and 2003: CP
After that: Nada. Zip. Nothin.

Why? Because my travel is predictable. I fly from IAD to TPA and back every week. Is it my fault that I can book 4 weeks in advance (sometimes I get ambitious and do 8) and take low fares? I never change my ticket -- so does U expect me to pay for refundable tickets? Does it make me less loyal that I have scheduled travel? After all, I could do IAD to TPA non-stop on UA, but instead I spend my life in PIT or PHL or CLT. For this Baldaza does not think I deserve a "reward."

Maybe with all the empty seats in First after next year, they'll take out some and give us MRTC http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

This year: Gold
Next year: CP
'04: Chapter 7

CURRENT: CP
2003: CP
2004: PLATINUM ELITE (C0)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kv99:
Will ANYONE qualify for Chairman's under the new rules? It just suddenly struck me -- ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES on a fare basis higher than H. Jesus, that's really tough.

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Well we will now have a sure fire way to identify usair executives on a flight. If they have a chairmen preferred tag, they must be upper management at usair, and got it as a perk....

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For the past 3 years, SP. For 2003, SP. After that, None.

2001 & 2002: CP

2003: CP

Under new rules: AA EXP/CO Gold

Maybe upon seeing a lot of us Cheap frequent fliers depart, Mr. Baldanza can take the revenue from his "true frequent fliers" and have a new song written for himself...."Benny and The Empty Jets".

2001, 2002: GP

2003: CP

2004: Hertz Presidents Circle - less headaches, better schedule and actually less travel time. Yes, I do have choices.

Current Status: Gold Preferred
Expected 2003 Status: &lt;cough&gt; Chairman's Preferred
Under new rules my 2003 status: Maybe half-way to Silver
2004 Status: American mid-level elite, I guess.

2000, 2001, 2002: GP
will make CP tomorrow on PHL-ATL
therefore 2003= CP
2004: 80% of my flights are v,k,h, with a sprinkling of B's and Y's when last minute travel; probably would make silver but if the "no tier miles" on nonrefundables sticks I will not fly US on a paid ticket. Will burn my 650,000 miles ASAP.

Money I have spent with US:

98: $9018
99: $5418
00: $5787
01: $7444
02: $7072 YTD not including 2 RT's just booked for this week and week of 9/16. According to Balbozo, spending $34000 with them over 5 years makes me "disloyal" because I didn't buy exclusively Y and B fares http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Baldanza says this AM that some of the changes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34912-2002Sep3.html

"US Airways' Baldanza, who oversaw the ticket-rule changes, said he was "overwhelmed" by the number of responses. Baldanza said some of the comments were "constructive," while others, such as those that referred to him as a seven-letter vulgarism, were not. Because of the amount of feedback, Baldanza said some of the planned changes might be altered slightly. But he declined to offer specifics."

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by deelmakur:
There's an old saying, you have to kiss them before you f*** them. I'm afraid there's no foreplay at USAir.</font>

I don't know. Maybe this explains the double status miles promotion. It's the foreplay.

I was flying Piedmont Airlines when usair took it and ruined it, and have been gold or silver for a lot of years.

currently silver
requalified last week for silver next year-BIG WOOP, so no more flights this year or more lilkely ever.
Under new rules-zip next year, this year, last year, the year before, etc.

This year - SP
Next year - SP
New rules - NONE

I have been Preferred for the last 6 years. BTW - major problems at the shuttle counter at DCA for passengers trying to get on an earlier flight with a non-refundable ticket. Very heated arguments. The ticket counter agents were very upset with the new policies. Time to jump to the Delta shuttle!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Uflyer:
I have been Preferred for the last 6 years. BTW - major problems at the shuttle counter at DCA for passengers trying to get on an earlier flight with a non-refundable ticket. Very heated arguments. The ticket counter agents were very upset with the new policies. Time to jump to the Delta shuttle!</font>

Oh, good point, they're going to get killed on the Shuttle if they don't ditch the no stand-by at least for the Shuttle ...

Me ...

Current: GP
Next Year: CP
Under new rules: No status

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Beckles:
Me ...


Next Year: CP
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Is this before or after the mileage run on an e-saver you will be doing? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I figure you guys are crazy to spend money on US unless it was to get a higher level or you are stuck in a hub.

I need 2 segments to reup.

Currently: Gold
Expect for next year: Gold (almost there)
Under new rules: nothing

If the new rules stay in effect, I expect to switch exclusively to burning Dividend Miles on award tickets and paying for travel on other airlines.

Under the new rules I too would lose status as my travel and status is based on leisure travel.

Current Status - GP
Next year - GP
Under New Rules - no status.

Current: SP
2003: GP
2003 under Nazi regime: NADA

Hitting that GP marker this coming fall should carry a bit more weight on AA for matching purposes.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by biggs:
Is this before or after the mileage run on an e-saver you will be doing? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
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Actually, I'll make CP with or without a trip this weekend ... I was just looking for an excuse to go somewhere ... although if I went to SFO (instead of LA) this weekend I'd reach CP now ... which would be good for an upcoming trip to London ... hmmm ...

Current Status - GP
Next year - GP
Under New Rules - no status.

Yes, but with the other airlines gradually putting restrictions on non refundables, we may not have a choice.

Flying standby is the nature of our business, because we don't know when meetings will end, problems that may occur, etc.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TomBascom:
Wrong move! That's what they want to happen. On behalf of your shareholders and in the interest of preserving your job (by way of keeping your company in business through careful stewardship of travel dollars) urge your company to seek another carrier rather than give in to this outrageous extortion.</font>

edited -- posted in the wrong place

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The others have not matched. They're just charging a fee. Which is obnoxious in its own right but not as reprehensible as what U has done.

And neither AA nor CO has put it into effect yet. They're testing the waters. Let them know what a bad idea it is in two ways -- tell them and tell US.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rd7242:
Yes, but with the other airlines gradually putting restrictions on non refundables, we may not have a choice.

Flying standby is the nature of our business, because we don't know when meetings will end, problems that may occur, etc.


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Haven't been Gold/Silver since probably 1997/1998.

2002 will be Silver (as of weekend of 09/13/02).

New rules: nothing.

1998-2003 CP
2004 No status (but maybe Ben will like me)

Current Status: GP
Expected Status: GP (possibly CP)
Under New Rules: None

If US Airways doesn't want my business, then I say "screw 'em". PHL sucks anyway!

HP just announced new YYZ-LAS non-stops. With their better fare structure and unlimited upgrades, looks like I'll be moving some business to them.

Currently Chairman's on U.S.
Will obtain Chairmans again next year
Plan on flying ONCE to use my system wide (if they send them next year).
Just burned every mile I had on US for me and 3 friends to fly FC on NW to Hong Kong.
CO/NW is comp'ing me to Plat. on their airline.
Never plan on setting foot on a USAirways Plane again (No need to.... DL, NW, CO, UA, SW, and AA all fly out of BNA w/a great pricing structure, time and destinations. US is prob. the least airline flying in and out of BNA so why put myself through the trouble.)

Currently Gold although still using last year's card. Never received my new card but I am valid through 02/03. And with SWUs no longer available, what is the incentive to qualify anymore?

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"Fly me to the moon and let me earn alot of miles."

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by worldbanker:
Currently Gold although still using last year's card. Never received my new card but I am valid through 02/03.
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Actually (Not that I'm going to ever call and find out why) I haven't received my new card after re-qualifying over almost 2 months ago. Anyone else?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by worldbanker:
Currently Gold although still using last year's card. Never received my new card but I am valid through 02/03. And with SWUs no longer available, what is the incentive to qualify anymore?

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Did I miss something here? SWUs not available?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by nawlinsdoc:
Actually (Not that I'm going to ever call and find out why) I haven't received my new card after re-qualifying over almost 2 months ago. Anyone else?</font>

They probably applied the new rules retroactively to you and deemed you a disloyal flyer and stripped your status. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by nawlinsdoc:
Actually (Not that I'm going to ever call and find out why) I haven't received my new card after re-qualifying over almost 2 months ago. Anyone else?</font>

Nawlinsdoc -- They won't send you a new card when you requalify -- If you're currently Gold, they'll send you a new card when you make Chairman's, otherwise, you'll just get your new Gold card next year.

KV

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by biggs:
They probably applied the new rules retroactively to you and deemed you a disloyal flyer and stripped your status. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
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That's OK. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif They are going to strip everyone's status soon enough.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kv99:
Nawlinsdoc -- They won't send you a new card when you requalify -- If you're currently Gold, they'll send you a new card when you make Chairman's, otherwise, you'll just get your new Gold card next year.

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Thanks KV,

Feel much better now!

(I would also feel a lot better if my 12th segment AMEX bonus would post...how long does it take, for god's sake?)

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kv99:
Did I miss something here? SWUs not available?</font>

I believe worldbanker means the "upgrade at purchase" (DYMUPSYS) SWU has been discontinued as of this year, to be replaced by the "upgrade only in your 7/3/1 window" DYMUPSYS02--nowhere near as useful as the original.

I'm in my 4th year as CP and will requalify this month. I would easily make Silver under the new rules, maybe Gold but that would be a stratch.

2002: CP
2003: CP
2004: No status

All my segments have been with non refundables. I make CP by segment number long before I do so with miles.

No reason to fly with this wounded bird anymore.

2000: CP
2001: CP
2002: CP
2003: CP

I am well on my way to have 300,000 tier miles this year (Year to Date Preferred Miles: 250,000). However, I would have had 0 tier miles under the now rescinded policy.

US would loose my $30+k annual business had Ben Baldanza not changed his ridiculous mind.

1996: SP
1997: GP (& Delta Silver)
1998: GP (& Delta Gold)
1999: CP (& Delta Gold)
2000: CP (& Delta Gold)
2001: CP (& Delta Silver)
2002: GP (With 0 flights - yes, zero)
2003: SP (0 Flights if I can help it)
2004: -gone-

I have over a 1/4 Mil on each of them still, but may never burn it...Read Joe Brancatelli's column, and that's my sentiment towards the Airlines.