US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - Use it or lose it relaxed some more...

They're now permitting the entire day of travel to make changes. That's still inadequate -- changes are almost always going to require coordination with external parties who will frequently be unavailable to make a decision in time thus incurring a fake booking and a change fee but I guess it's an improvement.

They're also now allowing dead people (or their companions) to make changes or get a full refund.

Simpler way around that. Always have one of your trips planned but unticketed. Then if you have to make a change, ticket that trip with it. The rule does not require that the new ticket be on the same route.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by silverpie:
Simpler way around that. Always have one of your trips planned but unticketed. Then if you have to make a change, ticket that trip with it. The rule does not require that the new ticket be on the same route.</font>

Huh? I'm having a slow day -- could you explain that a little more clearly? How is it that I have an "unticketed" tiket that just happens to be laying around when I need it? They're getting rid of all of our unused e-tix, that's the whole point of "use it or lose it."

The rules, gibberish though they might be, are fairly clear that any changes that you might want to make are very heavily restricted -- changes to city pairs are certainly forbidden.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TomBascom:
Huh? I'm having a slow day -- could you explain that a little more clearly? How is it that I have an "unticketed" tiket that just happens to be laying around when I need it? They're getting rid of all of our unused e-tix, that's the whole point of "use it or lose it."
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Tom - I think his point was that if you always have a future trip that has not been purchased, you're ok - because you can always swap the 'as yet unbought' ticket for the one you have to cancel under the new rules.

Eg - I have trips upcoming to Montreal, FRA, and MAD. I only have tix in hand for Montreal. I have dates/plans for the other two but havent bought yet. So if Montreal gets messed up at last minute, I can exchange it for ticket to FRA or MAD.

Of course, this is somewhat risky if you want to upgrade in advance.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hscottm:
Tom - I think his point was that if you always have a future trip that has not been purchased, you're ok - because you can always swap the 'as yet unbought' ticket for the one you have to cancel under the new rules.

Eg - I have trips upcoming to Montreal, FRA, and MAD. I only have tix in hand for Montreal. I have dates/plans for the other two but havent bought yet. So if Montreal gets messed up at last minute, I can exchange it for ticket to FRA or MAD.

Of course, this is somewhat risky if you want to upgrade in advance.</font>

Ok, I get it -- you aren't really exchanging anything, you're applying a credit. Try to always have a planned but unticketed trip queued up and ready to go. In the good old days prior to Black Tuesday I just waited until the next round of trips to use up any old credits.

One negative side effect is that this turns a potentially refundable ticket (the future unpurchased trip) into a "non-refundable". Which wipes out any chance of upgrading in advance due to fare class and prolongs the "non-refundable" agony.

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this is not very easy to do sometimes, particularly if you tend (like me) to be a cockroach.

ok, but it's something to keep in mind as a possible technique.

[rant] this is just such bull****.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by TomBascom:
Ok, I get it -- you aren't really exchanging anything, you're applying a credit. Try to always have a planned but unticketed trip queued up and ready to go. In the good old days prior to Black Tuesday I just waited until the next round of trips to use up any old credits.

One negative side effect is that this turns a potentially refundable ticket (the future unpurchased trip) into a "non-refundable". Which wipes out any chance of upgrading in advance due to fare class and prolongs the "non-refundable" agony.

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I've had some full refundable fares in the past to which I applied a credit from an unused nonrefundable ticket. Obviously, in this siutation, the refundable ticket assumes the full restrictions of the restricted, nonrefundable ticket (refunds, etc.). However, the agents have always let me upgrade before the window anyway.

I don't know if this is policy or just good luck.

B class is upgradeable in advance even if non-refundable (I don't think there's such a thing as a non-refundable Y, but if there is, the same should be true) ... I don't think it has anything to do with being done a favor ...

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Beckles:
B class is upgradeable in advance even if non-refundable (I don't think there's such a thing as a non-refundable Y, but if there is, the same should be true) ... I don't think it has anything to do with being done a favor ...</font>

There is such a thing as non-refundable F...

I don't buy enough B fares these days to know for sure but I seem to recall not being able to upgrade a few of them outside the window.