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invincible
Jan 5, 11, 7:47 pm
answer received . Thanks everyone.


Taiwaned
Jan 5, 11, 7:50 pm
.. ahem and why can't you say "I don't want to go back to India????"

invincible
Jan 5, 11, 7:57 pm
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kaerii
Jan 5, 11, 8:04 pm
i dont have a choice...if he says i have to stay for 6 months with his family then i have to.

Sounds like you're an American citizen, in which case, you don't have to go anywhere you don't want to (unless compelled by law, obv).

SJOGuy
Jan 5, 11, 8:14 pm
Seems to be too much missing information to even understand what this is about. :confused:

invincible
Jan 5, 11, 8:17 pm
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Taiwaned
Jan 5, 11, 8:19 pm
Sounds like there are more issues than having a visa rejected.

VISA can be rejected for a number of reasons. Incomplete, unsigned, false information, lack of proper documentation etc are all possible reasons however the underlying problem seems like it is your culture. This conflict needs to be resolved between you and your husband not hoping that a third party makes the problem go away. In fact, it won't go away. It will just get worse as time goes on.

Just my two bits.

invincible
Jan 5, 11, 8:29 pm
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invincible
Jan 5, 11, 8:30 pm
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SQ421
Jan 5, 11, 9:54 pm
what will happen if they find out i lied on my prev. application regarding pakistan. ????

arrest? fine? blacklisted?

I sincerely doubt Indian Embassy in the United States has any authority to have you arrested for not disclosing details about your parents. You MIGHT get blacklisted as far as future Indian Visa's are concerned, but then again, I am no expert.

You could always report your passport lost/stolen shortly before the trip, but with no outbound immigration in the United States, that probably won't work well (unless Airlines get data on cancelled/stolen passports to compare at Check-In). That is about as far "out of the box" as my thinking gets in relation to this rather unique problem.

As others have said, you have bigger issues to work through than getting the Indian visa rejected, and I sincerely doubt anyone here has any idea as to how you'd go about submitting an application but ensuring it gets rejected. Most people here tend to have the exact opposite in mind.

As an aside, you are a United States citizen and you have rights. You can not be forced to leave the United States against your wish. By any one.

UA Fan
Jan 5, 11, 10:22 pm
no tips?????
i am afraid of contacting embassy ..cuz they will check my prev. application and see that i lied about my parents being ..... so dont want to get arrested or fined....

OP, my deepest sympathies for your situation. But as others have said this is a very strange case, so I'm not sure if my suggestion would make sense. Why don't you call the embassy and briefly state that you don't want to hurt your hubby's feelings/that you are being emotionally forced to go. Ask them to reject without giving a reason. Sorry if this is a silly idea, but I would try it if I were you.

Keyser
Jan 6, 11, 4:17 am
this is one of the strangest threads i have come across in a long time....

rsh913
Jan 6, 11, 5:48 am
Well as a chest thumping fire breathing supporter of what we call the undivided India frankly so much the better if you dont go to india. Seems like you lied about our origins in our first visa application and want to continue with that lie.

The only silver lining for you might be that Indian consulates in US require birth certificates of all visa applicants which might make them aware of your .... origins. THis requirement was put in place after another DH lied about his ancestry and participated in 26/11 attacks in india.

You might consider reading
http://www.passportsandvisas.com/blog/2010/01/india-visa-applications-now-require-copies-of-birth-certificates/


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india/1008653-new-visa-requirements.html

invincible
Jan 6, 11, 8:09 am
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UA Fan
Jan 6, 11, 9:17 am
rsh913 : You totally ROCK !!!!!!!

Thank you soooooooooo much....yes my Birth cert. has .... written all over it :P
i didnt know of this change. i really appreciate your guidance.

and yes i have considered doing an anonymous call to the embassy to let them of the situation...but not sure how trust worthy they will be...and what they will put for reason of rejection.
if my husband gets any clue on this..he will just literally drop me off at my parents for good.

phewwwwwwwwww...i can breathe !!!!

But didn't you write in your OP that you are American born? How will they know your origins?

invincible
Jan 6, 11, 11:11 am
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Keyser
Jan 6, 11, 12:45 pm
i repeat....this is one of the strangest threads i have come across in a long time....

oliver2002
Jan 6, 11, 3:07 pm
Hmm... I have two kids born in the US (MI) and their birt certs have no mention of any alien origin of their parents. Must be a recent thing.:confused: Its seems conservatives in typical birth tourism states are pleading to have it on the cert: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/us/06immig.html

That said, the OP would be well advised to urgently seek counseling. If the husband can't stand up to his parents treating his wife like dirt, no Indian embassy's rejection can help avert the disaster that is on the horizon sooner or later.:eek:

UA Fan
Jan 6, 11, 3:10 pm
That said, the OP would be well advised to urgently seek counseling. If the husband can't stand up to his parents treating his wife like dirt, no Indian embassy's rejection can help avert the disaster that is on the horizon sooner or later.:eek:

+1

Keyser
Jan 7, 11, 2:29 am
Hmm... I have two kids born in the US (MI) and their birt certs have no mention of any alien origin of their parents. Must be a recent thing.:confused: Its seems conservatives in typical birth tourism states are pleading to have it on the cert: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/us/06immig.html

after reading this thread i checked with some relatives (of both indian & pakistani origin) whose kids were born in the US....all of them told me that there is no mention of india or pakistan origins on their kid's birth certificates....so its strange the op's birth certificate would have this....

That said, the OP would be well advised to urgently seek counseling. If the husband can't stand up to his parents treating his wife like dirt, no Indian embassy's rejection can help avert the disaster that is on the horizon sooner or later.:eek:

well said....

jahason
Jan 7, 11, 4:37 am
On all Indian visa applications from the UK, applicants are asked to declare if any parent or spouse are or were Pakistani citizens or were born in Pakistan. If the answer is yes then they canot apply through the usual procedure and an Indian visa can take up to a year to be issued.

In my case my parents were both born in India but my wife was born in Pakistan (now UK citizen). I was born in the UK. But I would have to pass through this lengthy procedure.

I have a friend, UK citizen, and in the UK since he was 3 years old but born in Pakistan. His wife is from India and still an Indian citizen. Their daughter's Indian visa was rejected.

invincible
Jan 7, 11, 9:16 pm
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Keyser
Jan 8, 11, 5:58 am
what i have it....statement of live birth. it has all the info. that is what i have been using for all the paperwork(greencard) .
i know problems are major, but its indian thinking. whatever my mom says is right. if she beats you, its ok, she is elder and old , you being young, must respect her at all times. ??????????? my husband is ok..he tries to instill this in our house too, but i remind him, i am not in india, and this is not how i have been raised and i am not going to do it. so he doesnt like it but ah well.

but in india , i can not say anything. i am secluded and i have lost connection with the outside world.
seriously...at times i just wanted to be under the sky and take a deep breath and feel the fresh air. but i couldnt !!!! i simply couldnt.
my husband on other hand can do whatever he wants...he sleeps all day...gives me his menu what he wants...goes out all day ...his comfort is number one priority

edited to add: when we filled out the appl. last time. didnt mention pakistan anywhere.
surprisingly even with my very common .... name...they didnt notice anything unusual and gave me visa for 6 months. no question asked ???
oh how i wish they ask and ask and ask and deny me for LIFe !!! hehehehe :P

you can sugarcoat it all you want, but you definitely have a problem....seems like your husband & his family are treating you like garbage....

lots of .... & indian names are common....you can't tell one from the other....the embassy asks you on your form whether you have any .... connections....they don't need to ask you again & again....this time just mention it on your form & be done with it....

yosithezet
Jan 8, 11, 6:53 am
Just say "no". You are an American citizen in America. Just say "I'm not going". The best thing you can have happen it seems is to be dropped at your parents. Good luck!

7Continents
Jan 8, 11, 8:32 am
You shouldn't be using government loop holes to solve your personal issues.
Either get some help with your relationship with your husband or put your foot down and tell him that you are living a certain lifestyle and will not make that significant a change for his family if you go visit. Plain and simple.

manneca
Jan 8, 11, 10:04 am
I agree with the others that your problems go well beyond just not going to India. You don't say where you live, but I would strongly suggest you find out what options you have for living on your own. It sounds to me like you are in an abusive relationship. It is very hard for women to leave abusive relationships.

I hope you will be able to figure this out.

Babu
Jan 8, 11, 4:20 pm
As the OP has recieved the answer she needs, I am closing this thread.

Invincible, I wish you all the best in resolving your issues; you are most welcome to start a new thread if/ when you feel this community can answer any other questions related to India and India travel.



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