Argentina - Argentina Census, Wednesday October 27, 2010

For anybody that's visiting Argentina on October 27, please note that most everything will be closed until 20:00 (by law, with criminal penalties for non-compliance) . That includes supermarkets, kioscos, restaurants, bars, theaters, etc.

Public transportation is supposed to run on a Sunday schedule, however I don't know what the availability of taxis will be like during the day.

At least one member of each household is required to stay at home to meet with a census worker. The workers will verbally ask questions and fill in a government form with a special pencil :) The lucky ones will only have to answer the 35-question short form.

I have no idea how they are going to count hotel guests, but the government definitely intends to count tourists. If you are staying at a hotel that day you should check what the situation is regarding hotel food services.

[¿Los turistas también tienen que ser censados?
Sí, los turistas deben ser censados ya que el censo de hecho es como una foto instantánea de la República. ]

http://www.censo2010.indec.gov.ar/index_preguntas_f.asp

The government gazetted the requirements last Wednesday, only 7 days before the census ...

Here's a pdf of the census form, of course it's password-protected so you can't print it ...
http://www.indec.mecon.ar/censo2010/2010_basico_completo.pdf


John

Almost speechless :eek:

I wonder how many Kiwis this census will show..... :D

Ooh, goodie. I get to be counted in both the USA and Argentina in the same year.

I wonder how many Kiwis this census will show..... :D

Probably one for every Gaucho who has fled the country for the event. :p

Probably one for every Gaucho who has fled the country for the event. :p

Hey.... Im going to be in SCL this coming Monday for about 5 hours 'al pedo'... so why dont you come to the Airport and I will buy you a glass of that Carmenere Spoof Juice you like so much... :p :D

I wonder how many Kiwis this census will show..... :DThis little ratite is notoriously shy and usually nocturnal.

Hey.... Im going to be in SCL this coming Monday for about 5 hours 'al pedo'... so why dont you come to the Airport and I will buy you a glass of that Carmenere Spoof Juice you like so much... :p :D

You know, this came close to happening. I thought about going through SCL to fly into AEP, but between the uncertainty about closing dates and the long SCL connection time, I am flying LIM/EZE (on the 26th, just after medianoche). This clearly, and not the census, is why you are fleeing the country :D

You know, this came close to happening. I thought about going through SCL to fly into AEP, but between the uncertainty about closing dates and the long SCL connection time, I am flying LIM/EZE (on the 26th, just after medianoche). This clearly, and not the census, is why you are fleeing the country :D

LIM.... hmmm.... do you know if the SCL to JFK flights operated by LAN go directly or do they also puddle jump in LIM...??? I cant get the quirky LAN website to tell me and the 0800 number is manned by morons that take about 20 minutes on hold before they try to communicate some weird dialect... :rolleyes:

LIM.... hmmm.... do you know if the SCL to JFK flights operated by LAN go directly or do they also puddle jump in LIM...??? I cant get the quirky LAN website to tell me and the 0800 number is manned by morons that take about 20 minutes on hold before they try to communicate some weird dialect... :rolleyes:

Nonstop certain days, 1 stop others (or both)

MON 25OCT10 SANTIAGO /NEW YORK *LA
** LAN AIRLINES - SN ** 2 MO 25OCT 0000
1 SCL JFK 25/2245#0835 LA 532 J4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9+763*C
2 SCL1JFK 25/2100#0835 LA 530 J4 D4 I4 W0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9+763*C

Wirelessly posted (Nokia N97 / Palm TX: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.4; Series60/5.0 NokiaN97-3/22.2.110; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1) AppleWebKit/525 (KHTML, like Gecko) BrowserNG/7.1.4)

Im afraid I cant grasp the above.... so then, on Mon 10/25 is there more than 1 flight...? Is it a non stop..? If there are 2 flights, which one is the non-stop...?

Gracias....

Im afraid I cant grasp the above.... so then, on Mon 10/25 is there more than 1 flight...? Is it a non stop..? If there are 2 flights, which one is the non-stop...?

Gracias....

Sipo.

532 - sin escala
530 - escala LIM

escrito con "weird dialect."

532 - sin escala
530 - escala LIM


Praise the Gods from the Wrong side of the Andes.... Im on the non stop !!!!!! ^

So Chileno.... are you a Comodoro on LANPass already....?

So Chileno.... are you a Comodoro on LANPass already....?

Nopo. It works better for me now to keep banking the miles in the Alaska Mileage Plan - I earn EQMs on LA. On the intercontinental flights, I am either redeeming miles or in paid discounted J. If I was flying in Clase Basura, I'd investigate Lanpass or another OW program.

After my latest carry on at EZE when trying to leave this country it might be best if I hide on Wednesday or they might deport me.
Over two years after I first applied and I'm still waiting for my DNI. :rolleyes:

On the intercontinental flights, I am either redeeming miles or in paid discounted J. If I was flying in Clase Basura, I'd investigate Lanpass or another OW program.

Of course... you would not be caught dead in Cattle Class. I think Im missing the IBanking world... a million Pardons, I forgot I was talking to a RMF... :p :D

I will, of course, be flying up in Clase Basura... will post a trip report so that you can keep updated on what we cabezas have to endure... ;)

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I will, of course, be flying up in Clase Basura... will post a trip report so that you can keep updated on what we cabezas have to endure... ;)Including the wines offered onboard :p

Of course... you would not be caught dead in Cattle Class. I think Im missing the IBanking world... a million Pardons, I forgot I was talking to a RMF... :p :D

I will, of course, be flying up in Clase Basura... will post a trip report so that you can keep updated on what we cabezas have to endure... ;)

I am reminded of that book, what was it called, Un Argentino Humilde?

My vuelos nacionales in Chile are in the one and only class the country has. Meanwhile, back on topic, what to buy for lunch on Wednesday when I get there Tuesday. :) I may have to learn how to turn my oven on :o I always seem to heat things up in the toaster/oven. I will, however, be armed to cook. I am importing what will possibly be the most valuable thing in my place - a 200 sq' roll of Reynolds Aluminum Foil. That, and peppercorns.

Ah yes... Reynolds Aluminim Foil... the 1st item on my US shopping list.... :D ^

Ah yes... Reynolds Aluminim Foil... the 1st item on my US shopping list.... :D ^Priorities, priorites @:-)
http://www.lego.com/en-us/Default.aspx

I am reminded of that book, what was it called, Un Argentino Humilde?

Is that the one that only has blank pages in it? ;)

Priorities, priorites @:-)
http://www.lego.com/en-us/Default.aspx

Yes of course... I stand corrected. Actually, Juan Francisco's list I already know by heart.... he has been drilling it to me for the past 2 weeks in such a way that at this point I can recite it backwards in Sanskrit... no need to write that down in no list... :D ^

Ah yes... Reynolds Aluminim Foil... the 1st item on my US shopping list.... :D ^

Is there a shortage of Reynolds Wrap in Buenos Aires? We're coming down later this week and could bring some as presents.

The real Reynolds Wrap does not exist here... they dont import it. The local stuff is not usable..... I will kill for the Heavy Duty Version of the Reynolds wrap.... will trade for Malbec... :D

Do they make a Food Service version roll, one of those extra large and heavy rolls...??? :D

The real Reynolds Wrap does not exist here... they dont import it. The local stuff is not usable..... I will kill for the Heavy Duty Version of the Reynolds wrap.... will trade for Malbec... :D
And now in Super Strength:
http://www.reynoldspkg.com/reynoldskitchens/en/product.asp?cat_id=1337&prod_id=4401

What kind of Malbec? :D

The real Reynolds Wrap does not exist here... they dont import it. The local stuff is not usable..... I will kill for the Heavy Duty Version of the Reynolds wrap.... will trade for Malbec... :D

Do they make a Food Service version roll, one of those extra large and heavy rolls...??? :D

I've never heard of Reynolds Wrap.

I use PRO-LUMINIO USO PROFESIONALL in a 5 metre roll. Perfectly adequate and comparable to anything available in the UK. ^

The real Reynolds Wrap does not exist here... they dont import it. The local stuff is not usable..... I will kill for the Heavy Duty Version of the Reynolds wrap.... will trade for Malbec... :D

Do they make a Food Service version roll, one of those extra large and heavy rolls...??? :D

You have PM.

The real Reynolds Wrap does not exist here... they dont import it. The local stuff is not usable..... I will kill for the Heavy Duty Version of the Reynolds wrap.... will trade for Malbec... :D

Do they make a Food Service version roll, one of those extra large and heavy rolls...??? :D

Gaucho;
they sell it in 500 and 1000 foot rolls!

http://www.amazon.com/Global-Industrial-Heavy-Duty-Aluminum-Rolls/dp/B003XWCQH2/ref=sr_1_38?s=miscellaneous&ie=UTF8&qid=1288130683&sr=1-38
http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Heavy-Duty-Aluminum-Foil-Roll/dp/B003XWD2GQ/ref=sr_1_35?s=miscellaneous&ie=UTF8&qid=1288130683&sr=1-35
http://www.amazon.com/BOARDWALK-Heavy-Duty-Aluminum-Foil-Rolls/dp/B001SJ8YDW/ref=sr_1_15?s=miscellaneous&ie=UTF8&qid=1288130630&sr=1-15

Those prices are BS too, you should be able to find a 1000' long, 18" wide heavy duty role for under $100. No need to order online and wait either, just about any restaurant supply store where you're traveling this week will have it:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=brooklyn+restaurant+supply&FORM=SSRE

So the real question is, are you crazy enough to haul 10 kilos of aluminum foil back to Argentina??? I would love to see the customs inspectors react to that^

I think I will bring back home what is left of my "industria argentina" foil roll so people can see what I meant when they thought I was crazy for bringing foil down here.

I think I will bring back home what is left of my "industria argentina" foil roll so people can see what I meant when they thought I was crazy for bringing foil down here.That explains why the local tin foil hats don't work down here.

So, most things are already closed, people are eating/drinking what they can while they can, there are a lot of police out (probably to enforce the midnight closures) and I now have my late night salad, and another salad to go with my lunch tomorrow. Dippy Doohaha forgot to put the oil and vinegar in my bag.

So, most things are already closed, people are eating/drinking what they can while they can, there are a lot of police out (probably to enforce the midnight closures) and I now have my late night salad, and another salad to go with my lunch tomorrow. Dippy Doohaha forgot to put the oil and vinegar in my bag.I'm sure some good samaritan will take pity on you despite your pecados (what's the LD50 of that?):D I have a 2008 Rutini Chardonnay and a 2008 Andeluna Malbec Reserva waiting ...

I'm sure some good samaritan will take pity on you despite your pecados (what's the LD50 of that?):D I have a 2008 Rutini Chardonnay and a 2008 Andeluna Malbec Reserva waiting ...

LAN is serving Rutini Chardonnay this month. It was tasty.

I've done my duty to la Patria!

I've done my duty to la Patria!

Congratulations..... could you perhaps elaborate...??

I'm sure some good samaritan will take pity on you despite your pecados (what's the LD50 of that?):D I have a 2008 Rutini Chardonnay and a 2008 Andeluna Malbec Reserva waiting ...

Aha.... and where did you buy that plonk...??? :p

Congratulations..... could you perhaps elaborate...??I answered the questions!

Aha.... and where did you buy that plonk...??? :pSince you were out of town, I had to slum it at Jumbo :p

I could have swapped some heavy-duty aluminum foil for some better quality wine of course!

Sorry..... another FTer brought me a 18 months supply of Alu Foil... :D

Sorry..... another FTer brought me a 18 months supply of Alu Foil... :DAre you sure? You'll need extra thick "tin foil" hats to protects against los rayos K :p

Believe me John... Im covered for a while. Those food service over-sized rolls of heavy duty foil are HUGE.... I should be OK for about 12-18 months.... ^

Believe me John... Im covered for a while. Those food service over-sized rolls of heavy duty foil are HUGE.... I should be OK for about 12-18 months.... ^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIv3KDNvuB0

Believe me John... Im covered for a while. Those food service over-sized rolls of heavy duty foil are HUGE.... I should be OK for about 12-18 months.... ^

That's 10 lbs (4.5 kg)/roll. I hope they last you a while! My wife and I enjoyed meeting you and seeing your shop. The wine was excellent, we look forward to sampling more when we get home. Also, your recommendation for Fred B. (http://www.silverstarcar.com/) was spot on. What a wonderful introduction to Buenos Aires. He was waiting for us at the airport (even though our flight was early), and waited with us for 20 minutes at the apartment until the owner showed up. He also provided us a free loaner cell phone for our stay, and gave us a great overview of things to do in Buenos Aires on the drive in from the airport.