Choice Privileges - www.choicehotels.com = Access Denied !!!




sdsearch
Aug 28, 10, 3:30 am
I'm just returning from a trip to Norway (where I stayed for 14 nights at 4 different Choice hotels for 16k points/night!).

The last couple days (at two different Choice hotels), using Telnor's WiFi access that they provide, I've been getting:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.choicehotels.com/" on this server.

Reference #18.4e547bd5.1282987083.18eb5aee

every time I try to go to either:

www.choicehotels.com
www.comfortinn.com
www.qualityinn.com
www.rodewayinn.com

(I can go to secure.choicehotels.com and log in, but if I try to do a lookup of hotels there, it puts me back on the unsecure site, where I get this message again.)

I thought it way either my laptop or Telnor's service, until just now I logged in at an AA-provided computer in their lounge at London Heathrow (where I'm changing planes), and I'm getting the same result! So it's not my computer, and it's not just Telnor (because they're a Norwegian company, and I'm sure they're not the ones providing internet access to the computer's in AA's lounge west of London).

So how widespread is it? Anyone else running into it?

(It appears to be related to their use of Akamai:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies

since when I looked up this Access Denied stuff on the web, I came across past examples from not just www.choicehotels.com but also www.jcpenney.com, both of which use Akamai. (But I'm not having problems with www.jcpenney.com right now, nor was I back at those hotels in Norway, only with the unsecured Choice websites.)


starflyer
Aug 28, 10, 4:29 am
I'm seeing the same problem.

AnneSommer
Aug 29, 10, 6:40 am
You are not the only one with this problem. I have it to and asked in my travel forums. Other have it too.

After the first 2 answer I try it with a US Proxy. And it worked.


Apparently they locked the US Site for non Us IPs.:mad::mad:

The cheaper RAte for Choice Privilegies members is only available over the US Site.

Anne


sdsearch
Aug 29, 10, 8:55 am
After the first 2 answer I try it with a US Proxy. And it worked.
Can you please explain how to do that (or post the link to an explanation)? Thahks.

While I'm back in the US now and not having the problem any more, obviously there is at least one other person (post above yours) who is still having it.

The cheaper RAte for Choice Privilegies members is only available over the US Site.
Yes, I noticed that while I was able to go to secure.choicehotels.com, it was not giving me half of the rate options I'm used to seeing. And yet again, those are back now that I'm the US.

This is really annyong, that they give you the rate choices based on where you're logged in from, rather than based on where your membership is (gosh, if you're logged in, they should know that!!!).

Nevertheless, whether secure.choicehotels.com had the right rates or not, it wouldn't really work, because it kept throwing to the blocked unsecured US sites for the hotel search part of the transaction.

I presume if I wanted to use Choice Hotels (non-Scandinavia) in Europe I had to use a different URL? (How confusing, I can use the same URL for every other hotel program worldwide if it has implemented their rewards program worldwide, but I need a different URL to access Choice Privileges in the UK than in the US???)

... At any rate, if it is intentional blocking, Access Denied is still a horribly unfriendly way to do it. If their point is that you should use a different URL in Europe, they should show a redirect page or at least a page with a link to the right URL!

AnneSommer
Aug 29, 10, 1:15 pm
Hello

@sdsearch There Websites/Homepage , where you find Proxy from all over the world. f.e. here http://www.samair.ru/proxy/type-09.htm. Then you choose a manual connection to the Internet and put the proxy there.

But you have to try, which works the best for you. And while you can access a site like Choicehotels.com fine, you could have problems to post in a forum (with html).

Anne

starflyer
Aug 29, 10, 3:50 pm
Still getting the Access Denied error message when trying to access from outside the US. I find it quite hard to believe this is intended functionality.

AnneSommer
Aug 29, 10, 4:10 pm
Still getting the Access Denied error message when trying to access from outside the US. I find it quite hard to believe this is intended functionality.


Hello

But this happens indeed. For example you can`t watch Clips/previews on CBS.com with a Non US Proxy/IP. The Same for some clips on YouTube. On YouTube you get a message like "This clip is not available for your region".

And with a US IP you can access the site. If this is on purpose for Choice hotels(.com) or not ? We will see. I have send a email to customer service.

I will post the anwser here till Tuesday, if I have already the anwser then. I will leave for our vacation on Wednesday. So it might take longer.

Anne

sdsearch
Aug 30, 10, 9:34 am
On YouTube you get a message like "This clip is not available for your region".

Whatever your opinion of the lockout itself, the YouTube message you cited sounds user friendly and understable. (The problem is that your doing something you cannot do in your region, and it explains that.)

If Choice wants to lock out the .com versions of their website from use overseas, I would understand that, but I don't understand why the horribly cryptic "Access Denied" (with no explanation of the likes YouTube gives), and even more importantly -- since you can access a Choice website over there, just not this one -- no explanation of what is the right site to use.

In fact, ideally, if they don't want you to access the .com at all, there should be no message at all, just a URL redirect to the website they do want you to acess.

However: You should be able to use a Choice Privileges website of some sort even when traveling in an area where Choice Privilieges is burn-only (like Scandinavia). You shouldn't be forced to use only the most local (in that case, Choice Hotels Scandinavia website), since then you can't earn Choice Privilieges points on reservations you make there. (Choice Hotels Scandinavia has a separate program called Choice Club.)

Also, even if Rodeway Inn, etc, don't exist outside of the US, you should be able to make reservations at a Rodeway Inn in the US from outside the US. But you can't do that with www.rodewayinn.com (which Choice will throw you to the moment you pick a Rodeway Inn hotel, since only rodewayinn.com can show you the rooms at one), so is there a European version of the Roedeway Inn website (and every other US-only brand Choice hotels webiste)?

starflyer
Aug 30, 10, 9:54 am
Got a message from Customer Service that they're aware of the problem but don't have an estimate as to when it will be fixed. Nothing in their reply suggested that this was intentional behavior to restrict site access.

starflyer
Aug 31, 10, 6:57 am
Access from outside the US appears to be working now.



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