I am choosing my first *A program and Aegean seemed pretty nice, given that I am not a very frequent flyer but fly a lot during specific periods, and given that I am based in Europe.
I wasn't able to figure out from their website whether status miles can be gained also on partner airlines, or only on Aegean.
e.g. if my first flights are LHR-DME-LHR with bmi, would those miles qualify for getting to the next status?
Thank you
mahasamatman
Aug 21, 10, 1:05 pm
You get status miles on any *A carrier. Their web site details all of this.
http://en.aegeanair.com/Content.aspx?Page=442Members can earn both Tier and Award miles travelling on any Star Alliance member’s flight on an eligible fare
sbm12
Aug 21, 10, 1:59 pm
It really depends on what fare class you are booked in. Of BD-operated flights it appears that all revenue classes earn but some of the lower classes are at 50% credit.
http://en.aegeanair.com/MilesAndBonus/Content.aspx?code=winFly#bmi
Also keep in mind that BD code-shares with Transaero on some LHR-DME segments so those wouldn't earn credit.
If you have a specific operating carrier, fare and route in mind you can plug it in here (http://tools.wanderingaramean.com/Tools/Advanced_Trip_Calculator.aspx) and it should be pretty accurate in terms of what you'll earn.
eriond
Aug 22, 10, 1:38 am
A3's FFP only requires 3k EQM to qualify for *S (after the promotional 1k EQM given). However, I'm not sure if balance miles from a particular sector left over from qualifying for *S will be allowed to be used for the qualification of *G. I know BD doesn't allow that.
henry999
Aug 22, 10, 2:57 am
I'm not sure if balance miles from a particular sector left over from qualifying for *S will be allowed to be used for the qualification of *G. I know BD doesn't allow that.How can you know that? It's simply not true.
You might want to check the FAQ over on the bmi forum:
> What if I have 15,500 status miles and a 5,000 mile flight
> pushes me over the threshold [for Silver]? ... do I lose 4,500 miles?
> No. You'll get a credit for the balance which will be available
> for qualification to the next tier/requalification at Gold.
cheers,
Henry
Jetstreamster
Aug 22, 10, 3:01 pm
I cannot find Aegean Miles&Bonus while specifying my FFP on the bmi booking details... :(
If bmi is only online check-in or self check-in... how do I get my miles credited? :( :(
sbm12
Aug 22, 10, 3:59 pm
I cannot find Aegean Miles&Bonus while specifying my FFP on the bmi booking details... :(
If bmi is only online check-in or self check-in... how do I get my miles credited? :( :(Just a few options that pop into my mind:
Call BD and have it added in advance of travel
Talk to a gate agent prior to the flight
Mail it in for retro-credit
Talk to an agent in a lounge
Exiled in Express
Aug 22, 10, 10:16 pm
Trying to decide if I want to take the plunge with my minimal *A flying. Free bags are worth more than the odd award ticket I would get elsewhere.
The Aegean earning chart shows a minimum of 500 miles, is that before or after ticketing class adjustment?
Example: MSP-DEN, 680 BIS miles. T fare earns 50% of actual so that would be 340 miles. Does that then round up to 500 miles? MSP-ORD, 334 BIS miles. 50% is 167, does that round up to 500 or is the BIS number adjusted to 500 min and then the 50% is applied for 250 miles.
orudge
Aug 23, 10, 12:40 pm
Example: MSP-DEN, 680 BIS miles. T fare earns 50% of actual so that would be 340 miles. Does that then round up to 500 miles? MSP-ORD, 334 BIS miles. 50% is 167, does that round up to 500 or is the BIS number adjusted to 500 min and then the 50% is applied for 250 miles.
I believe it'd be the latter - 250 miles credited on MSP - ORD, for instance - this is the way BD and LH's programmes work, for instance. I can't say for sure though.
toyotaboy95
Aug 31, 10, 4:13 am
Does anyone know if there's a mileage bonus for Miles & Bonus Gold members?
KLouis
Aug 31, 10, 10:06 am
Does anyone know if there's a mileage bonus for Miles & Bonus Gold members?There is no bonus.
hstraf
Sep 25, 10, 10:14 pm
Be sure to read the tos. Many of the lower fare classes will receive either 50% miles or no miles at all.
(Especially if you are flying lufthansa..)
And no Star Alliance partner flights will qualify for *any* miles, except for Lufthansa.
So... if you fly anything except Aegean or Lufthansa you will never reach even 1 mile, let alone 20k.
hstraf
Sep 25, 10, 10:20 pm
From the aegean terms of service, chapter 3 point 2 (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/Content.aspx?code=termsCond):
In order to register Miles in an Account the Member must have actually flown on the corresponding flight. Miles are earned and registered for every fare-based ticket published in the AEGEAN fare list, in accordance with the applicable Τables. No Miles are registered on free or discounted fares, on special offer fares, on barter agreements fares, or on charter flight fares. Tickets issued on a fare not included in the published AEGEAN fare list, do not earn Miles. Miles can be earned on flights performed by Aegean or Lufthansa. Miles can only be redeemed on flights performed by Aegean or Lufthansa.
So... from what I can see, only Lufthansa and Aegean flights would add to your status miles.
Has anyone flown another Star Alliance partner airline and received status miles credit with Aegean Miles&Bonus program?
KLouis
Sep 26, 10, 2:16 am
Be sure to read the tos. Many of the lower fare classes will receive either 50% miles or no miles at all.
(Especially if you are flying lufthansa..)
And no Star Alliance partner flights will qualify for *any* miles, except for Lufthansa.
So... if you fly anything except Aegean or Lufthansa you will never reach even 1 mile, let alone 20k.
You are absolutely wrong! You earn miles on all Star alliance partner airlines. It used to be the way you describe (LH only) before A3 joined *A, but this is no longer the case. You can see the conditions (fare classes) fore earning miles here:
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/Content.aspx?code=winFly
and they're very similar to what all (most) *A partner airlines do. As for their own flights, all regular flights (i.e. charter flights excluded) earn miles, even if only 200 for the cheapest fare.
KLouis
Sep 26, 10, 2:29 am
From the aegean terms of service, chapter 3 point 2 (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/Content.aspx?code=termsCond):
So... from what I can see, only Lufthansa and Aegean flights would add to your status miles.
Has anyone flown another Star Alliance partner airline and received status miles credit with Aegean Miles&Bonus program?I've lready answered in a different thread. It seems to me that A3 simply "forgot" to change the text of this after they joined *A, of which they are now a regular member. You'll notice that Star Alliance is not mentioned even once in the URL you cite. So, don't worry, you do get miles as outlined here:
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/Content.aspx?code=winFly
hstraf
Sep 26, 10, 5:08 pm
Yes and no.
Their mileage earnings allowances are pretty harsh.
Here's a real example:
Last year I flew YVR/NCE four times. I pay my own fares, so I purchased my tickets through travelocity and orbitz. Lufthansa alwasys seems to have the lowest cost, and best times, so they're the airline I used.
Only one flight was in class V, with the rest in L.
So in this case, I would have ended up with 50% miles for *one* trip... and zero for the rest.
Whereas with AC or M&M I would be granted full mileage value for all of them.
Am I missing something?
hstraf
Sep 26, 10, 5:14 pm
I agree and disagree.
The problem is that Aegean is much more restrictive about what fare classes will give you miles. I think pretty much any "discount" Lufthansa ticket purchased from orbitz or travelocity will give you zero miles.
For a real-world exampe, see this post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance/1118573-aegean-miles-bonus-status-miles-also-partners.html#post14800096)I just did in another thread.
GBM.flights
Sep 27, 10, 10:10 am
Yes and no.
Their mileage earnings allowances are pretty harsh.
Here's a real example:
Last year I flew YVR/NCE four times. I pay my own fares, so I purchased my tickets through travelocity and orbitz. Lufthansa alwasys seems to have the lowest cost, and best times, so they're the airline I used.
Only one flight was in class V, with the rest in L.
So in this case, I would have ended up with 50% miles for *one* trip... and zero for the rest.
Whereas with AC or M&M I would be granted full mileage value for all of them.
Am I missing something?
If you've been getting full mileage for LH "L" fares on AC (http://www1.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/our_partners/partner_details.do?Partner=LufthansaAirways) or M&M (http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/ch/earn/flight/offer?nodeid=2507840&l=en&cid=18003) you should consider yourself lucky and keep a low profile.
On AC you should earn 0. And on MM for the European segment 125 miles and 50% on the intercontinental portion.
Check the links I've added.
While we are at it, I challenge you to find a *A FFP that credits LH ELT fares at 100%. You can start here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-diamond-club/1105375-earning-dc-miles-lh.html) on post #4 to save some research.
Bottom line is that there are no perfect FFP's. All have positives and negatives.
Aegean seems to be up there with the best if you fly paid Business and First.
Even if you fly M, H, Q, G fares within Europe on LH it gives you more miles than on M&M itself.
On the other hand, as you've well noted, low Eco fares are pretty bad earners
So it's all a question of finding the right fit for your travel profile.
GBM
hstraf
Sep 27, 10, 10:37 am
That is very interesting. I've been getting full mileage credit with from M&M with my L class fares for the last two years. I hope they don't figure out the mistake!
KLouis
Sep 28, 10, 9:04 am
GBM.flights is absolutely correct in what he writes. For earnings on flying LH check: http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/gr/earn/flight/offer?nodeid=2507840&l=en&cid=1000254
It is indeed 50% long haul, 125 miles in Europe
Flying Lawyer
Sep 28, 10, 3:57 pm
I agree and disagree.
The problem is that Aegean is much more restrictive about what fare classes will give you miles. I think pretty much any "discount" Lufthansa ticket purchased from orbitz or travelocity will give you zero miles.
For a real-world exampe, see this post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance/1118573-aegean-miles-bonus-status-miles-also-partners.html#post14800096)I just did in another thread.
Much more restrictive than "what"? Sure, you do not get the 125 M&M miles for E, L and T class. However, you do not get miles for these booking classes on several other programms too. The other question: Has anybody ever got a card??
Aston Martin
Jan 3, 11, 4:51 am
Hello,
How many miles I get flying by LOT on route Warsaw - Poznan - Warsaw, booking class: S and T?
Thanks.
SPlDER
Jan 5, 11, 5:35 pm
Hello,
How many miles I get flying by LOT on route Warsaw - Poznan - Warsaw, booking class: S and T?
Thanks.
aprox. 90 per segment
eriond
Feb 16, 11, 9:59 am
I wonder whether the 2010 cards will expire at the end of 2012. Of course, being a "hard-core" optimist, I'd like to believe that we old M&B members (several years now) will get a *G for life membership ;) : I missed my Flying Blue Platinum for life by three years when I jumped ship a couple of years ago.
I'm only hoping that A3's FFP will never be part of M&M. :eek:
angelthe9
Sep 21, 11, 10:51 am
i am fed up with the idea of reaching gold with my Thai silver card now.
they didn't give me any miles on the flight from LAX to Boston on UNITED...
i just learned that Aegean probably has the lowest threshold for star alliance gold. damn i could have already earned it with my US-bkk trip and bkk-LHR round trip.
just a random idea...can i possibly redeem the miles which didn't accrual me miles on THAI with Aegean??
PVDtoDEL
Sep 23, 11, 2:28 am
i am fed up with the idea of reaching gold with my Thai silver card now.
they didn't give me any miles on the flight from LAX to Boston on UNITED...
i just learned that Aegean probably has the lowest threshold for star alliance gold. damn i could have already earned it with my US-bkk trip and bkk-LHR round trip.
just a random idea...can i possibly redeem the miles which didn't accrual me miles on THAI with Aegean??
Probably not - TG credits for more UA fare classes than A3..
sbm12
Sep 23, 11, 6:24 am
Probably not - TG credits for more UA fare classes than A3..
Plus it is unlikely that they will let you back-credit for a partner flight from 6 months prior to your enrollment with their program.
bemani21
Sep 29, 11, 1:41 am
I created A3 account in order to accumulate *A miles. I'm normally an OW flier but since I relocated to Thailand from NYC recently and tired of not getting anywhere with my occasional UA accumulation, I thought I'd switch to A3 which would give me *S with 1 return trip to Japan (original home) by flying SQ, UA, TG, NH, CA, or OZ. Obviously in the correct fare base in order to accumulate more miles. And of course my first choices are JL or CX but sometimes the price differences are huge.
I guess for a person who *A isn't their first choice of alliance, A3 would be a good bet since you can reach *S or *G much faster than other carriers.
But im sure some of you may disagree. :p
RudderDucky
Nov 27, 11, 3:12 am
I'm looking at flying a return trip from BUD to ORD via WAW on LOT Polish, and am confused as to how many miles one of the directions earns. The inbound to BUD books into V class which earns 50% on A3 according to their table and the the outbound to ORD books into S class, which isn't clear from the table. The mileage earnings table has "S" class in both the 50% and 25% earning areas, so I'm confused which one it is. For reference, the cost of the outbound leg in S costs about 11000Ft more than the inbound leg in V, so from this alone I'd assume that it earns 50%, but I don't want a surprise when I log into my A3 account after the flights post. Does anyone have any experience with this?
PVDtoDEL
Nov 27, 11, 3:27 am
I'm looking at flying a return trip from BUD to ORD via WAW on LOT Polish, and am confused as to how many miles one of the directions earns. The inbound to BUD books into V class which earns 50% on A3 according to their table and the the outbound to ORD books into S class, which isn't clear from the table. The mileage earnings table has "S" class in both the 50% and 25% earning areas, so I'm confused which one it is. For reference, the cost of the outbound leg in S costs about 11000Ft more than the inbound leg in V, so from this alone I'd assume that it earns 50%, but I don't want a surprise when I log into my A3 account after the flights post. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Well, firstly if you don't mind me asking - if you are a 1P, why are you crediting to A3 :confused::confused:
Your question is a good one. It's confusing. I'd assume that it earns 50%, and that the table hasn't been updated since LO changed their fare class structure. I suggest checking on ITA that the T fare is between S and V, A3 generally displays fare classes in decreasing order, so you can see which is the correct placement.
RudderDucky
Nov 27, 11, 4:03 am
Well, firstly if you don't mind me asking - if you are a 1P, why are you crediting to A3 :confused::confused:
I earned 1P when I was living in North America, but now that I'm back in Europe and back in university studying medicine, I was hoping to be able to keep some kind of *G status on the airlines because I definitely won't be able to keep up the 50k mile per year flying to keep 1P. And although I do have 1P status through 01/13, I'm afraid that A3 is going to change their rules (higher elite level requirements) during that time and make A3*G unattainable for me as well, so that's why I'm going for A3*G now.
Your question is a good one. It's confusing. I'd assume that it earns 50%, and that the table hasn't been updated since LO changed their fare class structure. I suggest checking on ITA that the T fare is between S and V, A3 generally displays fare classes in decreasing order, so you can see which is the correct placement.
Thanks for the help. I did a search for the T fare and it is not between V and S, but higher than both, meaning T>S>V. Makes me almost think that the whole table for LOT Polish might be a little off. Maybe I'll just send an email of to Aegean to figure it out. Any idea on how long they generally take to respond?
PVDtoDEL
Nov 27, 11, 4:10 am
Thanks for the help. I did a search for the T fare and it is not between V and S, but higher than both, meaning T>S>V. Makes me almost think that the whole table for LOT Polish might be a little off. Maybe I'll just send an email of to Aegean to figure it out. Any idea on how long they generally take to respond?
Regarding sending emails... They reply personally, instead of using canned messages. This is great, because they actually deal with your problem rather than some common issue that has absolutely nothing in common with your problem. The problem is that this is very time consuming, and therefore they are slow to respond.
I suggest giving them a call. Usually, the wait times aren't too bad, and they will call back internationally if they need to to answer your question in case they don't have the answer handy.
RudderDucky
Dec 4, 11, 7:40 am
So, I talked to Aegean about the earnings of LOT "S" fare class, and the representative said he had never seen anything like that, and wasn't sure, so I went ahead and sent them an email, getting a response back that the "S" class on LOT is only 25% earning, and that they need to fix their table. I ended up booking with Air Canada instead since it earns 100% in the fare class I'm booked into.