...and those of the other parks too. Count on it! It will be a matter of weeks (or days).
The _Banking_Scot
Aug 5, 10, 3:56 pm
" it's a dear world after all!" ( repeat ad nauseam):D
Regards
TBS
Ancien Maestro
Aug 5, 10, 11:11 pm
Sounds like standard price increases happening annually.. Does anyone know if the increase is the same for a ten day pass?
Mary2e
Aug 6, 10, 9:53 am
The increases are across the board, from single day tickets all the way up to annual passes.
CHIC SILBER
Aug 6, 10, 10:00 am
Many local stories talk about the numbers being down
and more & more competition from Universal & Busch
Seems like a strange time to ding em & dang em
Mary2e
Aug 6, 10, 10:05 am
The numbers are down. I've made 4 or 5 trips down in the last year and while the parks are still busy and crowded during certain times, it's not what is used to be.
I see more and more people bringing their own food and souvenirs don't seem to be selling quite as much. They've also been running some discount promotions the likes I've never seen before, though they have let up recently.
robtking
Aug 7, 10, 3:42 pm
Sounds like standard price increases happening annually.. Does anyone know if the increase is the same for a ten day pass?
Park Hopper Addition to ANY ticket remains the same ($54)
No Expiration Option to add to a 10-day now is $213.
Not trying to defend the mouse or anything, but the price increase hasn't occurred every August like people say, and their resort prices have significantly gone down in the past year.
CHIC SILBER
Aug 7, 10, 7:27 pm
" it's a dear world after all!" ( repeat ad nauseam):D TBS
I think you mean "it's a small world after all"
Possibly the best known lyric in the whole wide world
Mary2e
Aug 8, 10, 7:38 am
Not trying to defend the mouse or anything, but the price increase hasn't occurred every August like people say, and their resort prices have significantly gone down in the past year.Actually, they have, at least for the last 4 or 5 years. I'm sure if I look, one of the disney fan sites will have the historical prices.
As well, the resort prices go up every single year. They are discounting more now, but the prices are still higher this year than last year if you can't get or qualify for one of those discounts.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 11, 10, 8:44 pm
Numbers are down.. sounds like a great time to go. This year a bit of write off, we're thinking of making the trip down to Disney World again next year. My brother and his family is going to Disneyland for ten days. Which begs the question, what can you do for ten days at Disneyland? I guess, there are non Disneyland attractions.
Mary2e
Aug 12, 10, 7:23 am
Numbers may be down, but they're not offering the discounts they did when you went 2 years ago. They were practically giving away the shop then.
Right now, the best deal for many people except those staying in the least expensive hotels, is the 40% off room rates at deluxe resorts. This discount has been around for a good part of the year and is being offered until 10/2, unless they extend it again.
There's not a whole lot to do at Disneyland for 10 days, but there are other attractions in the LA area, such as Universal.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 12, 10, 10:01 am
Mary2e.. that's amazing you've been down to Disney World 4 or 5 times this year. You go there like I go to Fairmont Hotels. Do you go for a break? With kids?
August 09, we went with the free meal plan in a Fort Wilderness Cabin.. 3 adults, one child.. great deal. I remembered you mentioned it wasn't that great of a deal though.. so I must of missed the deal.. the loss leader deal. October 08, we stayed on International Blvd at Crowne Plaza, so I missed the deal then too, because we didn't stay on the Resort.. what sort of deal or discounts were they offering back then?
Mary2e
Aug 12, 10, 10:35 am
I don't think I've been down that much this year... maybe 3 times, but the year is young. I go down for a quick break. The last trip was only to go see the Main Street Electrical parade before it left... now it's not leaving. We usually will do a week there at some point in the year. But I don't work there, like you, or a family member, works for Fairmont :D ;)
The best deals are for the free dining IF you stay in a value resort and have a couple of kids. The dining plan is no longer the deal it used to be. Even Disney is now saying you can save "up to 20%. Not worth it in my book.
The good deals from 2 years ago were for "stay 4 nights/get 7" which also included a gift card.. I forgot how much.
They also offered a $500 gift card at some point.
If you're looking for bargains... you're not going to find many, and again, the cheapest you could do it for is a value resort.
I've often said it's cheaper to go to Hawaii for a week than to spend it in Disney, and I have the records to prove it :)
I just finished helping a friend with his reservation, and he's getting the best deal out there - 40% off his deluxe room only and will be paying for food and tickets as he uses them.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 12, 10, 2:01 pm
Lots of FTers think I'm an employee.. quite funny.. I wish that was the case as we would have taken advantage of NFAF some 8 years now.. 225 nights at a Fairmont over that time. Got lots of connections to employees, but no family or anything working at hotels.. employees get 50% off food.. better than NFAF rates on rooms. The reason we stay at Fairmonts is because they have a monopoly on iconic hotels in BC and Alberta.. we know managers at various hotels, and we always stay in a nice spacious one bedroom suite. So if you're up this way, pm reservation# and I can get you free upgrades at Banff, Chateau Lake Louise, and Hotel MacDonald.
I remember the gift card deal, but I didn't remember it combined, so yeah that would have been the farm..^ Being first time there Oct 08, we thought for flexibility to stay off the resort because we thought it was a tourist trap.. didn't look into, but maybe should of.
Mary2e
Aug 12, 10, 2:21 pm
It IS a tourist trap. We all know it.
Where else would you be charged 5 star prices and get, at best, 3 star rooms and services? :D :D :D
Thank you for the offer... Banff is on the list of places to see!
Ancien Maestro
Aug 13, 10, 7:24 pm
The hotel manager put our family up in a 1,200 sq ft specialty suite this last time out to Banff Springs, with a 600 sq ft balcony.. had two nights free nights out of five , and we ended up getting six massages, 2 for 1 golf twilight golf round, private room for family friends at Banffshire Club no charge.. unreal deals.:D
We have to do Disney because of the kids.. Mary2e, I noticed you on Hawaii threads as well as Orlando.. How often do you go up, and where do you stay?
We've done Big Island/Maui for the past 7 years, about once a year.. I get free flights there on Aeroplan/United Miles, and Fairmont Hotels give out a pretty good deal, plus we have suite upgrade certificates that gets us an ocean view one bedroom suite backing on the golf course at Fairmont Orchid on Big Island, and free night certificates and upgrades for an ocean view one bedroom suite at Fairmont Kea Lani. That's been a draw for our family.
For Disney, we get there on miles as well.. so a no brainer to go to Disney World as its the same amount of points to fly to Florida as it is to fly to California. We'll head up next year right before my 7 month old turns 2.
Mary2e
Aug 14, 10, 8:55 am
We generally go to Hawaii twice a year and stay on both Oahu and Kauai. We don't change islands during the trip, so we have to go twice to visit our two favorite islands.:) We always stay at a Hyatt, and we save our points and upgrade certificates for suites in Kauai.
Since we're both Hyatt Diamonds, it simply doesn't pay for us to stay elsewhere, since we get upgrades and lounge access.
I'm currently saving points with Hilton to get to the Big Island for a a week. But it's going to be tough giving up all Hyatt bennies :)
Ancien Maestro
Aug 14, 10, 5:44 pm
Money not obviously the issue, its quite a long plane ride from the east coast to Hawaii, my guess is its' about 9 or 10 hours.. twice a year, I don't know how you do it.
Funny that you do Kauai and Oahu.. we do Big Island and Maui because of the Fairmonts, and the great deals we get there.. There is a Hyatt on Maui in the Ka'anapali area you should try out. My son's classmates' grand parents just stayed there over spring break, and apparently its very nice.. so definitely if you can, use a suite upgrade to Hyatt's concierge level.. you'll enjoy it. Or maybe you've been..
We actually are finding that staying longer and hopping both islands is a treat.. year's past we would just stay one island and fly back.. hopping two islands is convenient especially with our 7 1/2 hour flights back home, we end up staying longer and relaxing a bit more.. breaking it up seems like another vacation in itself.
Between Hawaii and Disney, probably that'll take up most of the time.. but funny we both, as well as many others, enjoy visiting Disney Parks and State of Hawaii.. Two of America's most toured destinations.
Mary2e
Aug 15, 10, 7:52 am
[QUOTE=Ancien Maestro;14482122]Money not obviously the issue, its quite a long plane ride from the east coast to Hawaii, my guess is its' about 9 or 10 hours.. twice a year, I don't know how you do it.
I've been on FT a loooong time, so I've learned how to do it without breaking the bank. Lately we've been fortunate enough to do it in BF. Yes, it is 10 hours going and 9 coming back.
Funny that you do Kauai and Oahu.. we do Big Island and Maui because of the Fairmonts, and the great deals we get there.. There is a Hyatt on Maui in the Ka'anapali area you should try out. My son's classmates' grand parents just stayed there over spring break, and apparently its very nice.. so definitely if you can, use a suite upgrade to Hyatt's concierge level.. you'll enjoy it. Or maybe you've been..We've been to all the islands and like Maui the least. As well, the Maui property is the least "compliant" of the chain for Diamonds. We did get an upgrade, but others have not. Upgrade to club level is a standard diamond benefit. I could pay and use a suite upgrade, but we'd rather save them for places we like better.
We actually are finding that staying longer and hopping both islands is a treat.. year's past we would just stay one island and fly back.. hopping two islands is convenient especially with our 7 1/2 hour flights back home, we end up staying longer and relaxing a bit more.. breaking it up seems like another vacation in itself.We prefer more trips rather than staying for 2 weeks.
Between Hawaii and Disney, probably that'll take up most of the time.. but funny we both, as well as many others, enjoy visiting Disney Parks and State of Hawaii.. Two of America's most toured destinations.We've got a bit more vacation time this year, so we're not going to Disney for that week, and looking around for somewhere else to go. We will be back in Kauai this Nov. We go to those 2 places because it's now easy for us - no brainer vacations with little to no planning needed.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 15, 10, 1:49 pm
I agree.. Maui is more commercialized.. we love the Wailea area because it seems like Heaven on Earth.. hence Kea Lani, means Heavenly White in Aloha. We like the Big Island because we can pay the lowest price in the hotel and get a double size one bedroom suite backing onto the course and overlooking the ocean.. Likewise, this is a no-brainer as well, with lots of room to wiggle. Big Island is eco diverse with interesting volcanic activity.. lots to do. We like doing the Four Seasons Hualalai Surf, Sands and Stars.. $86 pp, all you can eat lobster, sushi, sashimi, steak, ribs, etc.. One of the Best meals we've ever had.
Sorry, still a bit green here.. what does BF mean?
Edit: Ok.. I think Best Friend.. sorry, I'm a bit stale.:)
Being self employed, we take time off when we want as well.. my wife has been asking to stay at home to set up the house, and with an infant child we'll probably just hang out at home until December. Probably BI/Maui next year, and Disney.. we're still trying to determine where to go Spring Break and Summer.. It would be interesting to hit Disney World Christmas week though!
Mary2e
Aug 15, 10, 8:01 pm
I call Maui a suburb of Southern CA. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you're looking for. We're not :)
BF = Business First (on CO)
It is NOT interesting to hit Disney Christmas week. It's a nightmare. I just talked someone out of it. It's the single busiest week of the year with prices to match. The lines are really long. We did NYE one year and it was enough and we didn't go into the parks on that day at all. If you want to see Disney at Christmas, go in early Dec.
As for spring break, at particularly the week before and after Easter - well, that's the second & third busiest weeks.
The best time to go - climate & crowd wise... Oct and May, as long as you stay away from the Columbus Day holiday in Oct and memorial Day in May. You might have no waits at all and the weather is almost perfect.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 15, 10, 9:54 pm
Sorry bout the BF.. yeah I'm definitely green.. but trying.:)
My 4 year old is in a top rated private school.. so pulling him out for the slow times would be pretty difficult since he needs to keep up with his homework.. plus we were quite fortunate to get him into the school, and happy to say that he is doing quite well. So we're left with Christmas/New Years, Spring Break, and Summer.. to go to Disney World.
I was able to pull off Spring Break vacation booking on Miles for the entire family, and getting less than 2 benjamins per night at the Orchid.. and scoring the double sized suite.. Top it all off a week in Wailea.. Not impossible to book, but yeah, it was tough, but got it done.. 22 nights of bliss.:)
Being Hyatt Diamond members.. Do you and your husband qualify the traditional way, or with some help.. like Amex Platinum?
Mary2e
Aug 16, 10, 7:20 am
We qualify the traditional way. Both of us are diamonds this year.
toomanybooks
Aug 17, 10, 3:42 pm
It is NOT interesting to hit Disney Christmas week. It's a nightmare. I just talked someone out of it. It's the single busiest week of the year with prices to match. The lines are really long.
I tell people about the godawful crowds at certain times of year, and they scoff. "Oh, how bad could it be?"
I show them this video and tell them, "This bad.":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSKCvAF6TnQ
Try fighting that for 12 hours a day, while paying top prices.
Mary2e
Aug 18, 10, 8:05 am
Yeah, too bad EVERYONE thinks "gee, it would be nice to be at Disney for Christmas"
NOT :D ;)
Ancien Maestro
Aug 18, 10, 1:55 pm
:D.. got a great hotel deal in Hawaii Christmas break.. getting there is the problem @ $2,000 pp. I'm considering Disney World but staying off site.. I assume that Disney doesn't have the meal plan going on during Christmas week.
We were at Disneyland one year during Christmas week.. wonderful atmostphere. The time and setting does make it special.. Had a neighbor go down to Disney World for Christmas week, and loved it.. so will ask them about their feedback too. Thanks Mary2e.
Mary2e
Aug 18, 10, 2:03 pm
You WILL be sorry. Seriously. Particularly if you're off site. There are no discounts at all for that week, and you can't buy the meal plan if you're not staying in one of their hotels. Not that you could get a dining reservation anyway.
In addition, if the parks reach capacity, and they definitely will on NYE, you will not be able to get in. If you're on site, they say you can get into a park - it just might not be the one you want :) Traffic will be a nightmare around the property. Hotel Plaza Blvd can and will become a parking lot.
I don't know where you want to stay, but it's not going to be easy for you.
The discounts and packages they have available right now end on 12/16. They're running 40% off deluxe and DVC studios. This is the best deal you're going to find if you can go before then. If you want the meal plan, pay for it separately, or just pay for the food you're going to eat. It's not as good a deal as it was, particularly if you have to hunt to save the purported (as much as) 20% they're now claiming.
I still don't get why everyone wants to go Christmas week, when there's absolutely nothing different if you go in the weeks before - except for the crowds :D
Oh, and watch the video above to see what it will look like. If you're not a seasoned visitor and don't care if you get on a ride or eat the meal you want, you will feel like you've wasted your money - and you will have.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 18, 10, 4:19 pm
I agree with your advice.. just with our 4 year old son in a top performance private school, we have no choice to do our vacations on Christmas, Springbreak, or Summer.. so we'll see if we can tough it out by renting a house, or getting a one bedroom suite at one of the regular hotels, since there is no Fairmont in Orlando.. not too picky I guess we are. So long as I can manage a flight down to Orlando, we can hit up Universal, Water parks, Disney, etc, and eat off sight at the various restaurants. Although it was nice the last time out just to stay on the resort.. no way logistically to be able to stay at the resort and expect a holiday going during Christmas break.
Breakers Palm Beach was a nice stopover.. maybe we can do a bit of a break.. hit Cape Canaveral.. Universal.. Sea World, as well as the Disney Parks.
So its' high season.. or no vacation.. didn't do much this summer.. will probably tough it out somewhere, somehow.
Mary2e
Aug 18, 10, 8:23 pm
Not for nothing.... But a 4 ur old should be a 4 yr old and not in a top performance pre-school :)
He'll get just as much from a nice holiday as hecwill in school.
There will be crowds everywhere and you also have an infant. That's just nuts.
Take the kid out of pre school and enjoy a nice, uncrowded, relaxing vacation. For far less money
Ancien Maestro
Aug 18, 10, 9:31 pm
You are right again.. Kids should have a childhood, and that was one of my priorities was to travel a bit, and we stayed at Fairmonts quite a bit on weekend excursions so that he can have a nice childhood experience. Banff Springs is one of his favorite places, as well as Disney World, and Hawaii/Maui..
The school he attend is rated number one in Alberta from Junior Kindergarten to Grade 9, and Number four in Alberta for Grades 10 to 12. He's mastered stuff in Junior Kindergarten that Grade ones do in the public system.. so if we plug him into the public system, he'll be waiting for a couple of years before everyone of his classmates catches up. He's a bright kid, and needs the challenging environment to thrive.
One of the drawbacks is going on vacation at high times of the season.. We did a 22 nighter over spring break, which worked out well.. missed a few days of school.. 42 nights at Fairmonts so far this year, and a week at the farm.. so a pretty solid couple of months off.. plus a good number of days off during the summer and weekends. But, ideally yes, would like to go low season.. more convenient at the moment to go during the busy periods. Funny, we've generally went low season years past, but we seem to be lucking out high season this past year with my son at school..
Banff Springs was sold out over Family Day weekend and Canada Day long weekend.. very highest times so far this year, except for Christmas.. The hotel manager that I know, some how got us upgraded to the Spa Suite.. 1200 sq ft one bedroom suite, and one of two rooms in the hotel with a balcony overlooking valley view both stays. Spring Break.. sold out, but got an upgraded one bedroom suite.. hotel was full, but didn't look too busy.. hopped over to Maui, and had a fantastic time to finish off spring break. Sounds assanine, but I'm starting to get excited to book something for Christmas.. last Christmas.. specifically Christmas eve, we were in the hospital as our second son popped out.. so would be nice to get in a birthday vacation for little guy too.:)