I'm surprised how old some of these threads are getting and how little info is available for Disney World. So I though I would start a thread where we can communicate the secrets of Disney World.
We've been to Disney World and Orlando Area twice. First time October 08 (18 nights) and August 09 (9 nights). We had a rental car this first trip because we didn't know our way around, so having a vehicle provided the most flexible means of travel. Second trip, we squeeked it in just before school and got the Meal Plan free with our package.. so we flew in, jumped on the bus with the three of us plus Grandma, and just stayed at Disney World park the whole time.
Some Secrets I've learned at Disney World..
Hard to get into Restaurants you need to book in advance (some even 90 days in advance) by phone reservations
Le Cellier Steak House - Epcot Pavilion
Chef Mickey's - Contemporary Resort (Character Dining)
Disney World Castle - Magic Kingdom (get a free photo - Princess Character Dining - Dine in the only Disney Castle World you can dine in)
Mickey's Back Yard Barbecue - Fort Wilderness Resort (Character Dining in a Camp Like Setting)
Garden Grill - Epcot (Mickey Mouse Character Dining)
Princess Akershus - Norway Pavilion Epcot (get a free photo -Princess Character Dining.. must do if you have daughter(s))
Ohanas - Polynesian Resort
1900 Park Fare - Grand Floridian Resort (get a photo, but must pay $30 - Princess Character Dining)
Yak & Yetis - Animal Kingdom
I would recommend a trip where you do everything else, before staying at Disney World.. This is why..
First, if you rent a vehicle, its pretty much useless when you stay at Disney World because of the bus systems, boats, and trains available. Plus save money on the rental car.. so rental, gas, and insurance no charge.
.. then you would probably ask.. "I just got off the plane, and got into a rental car, now I'm stuck with a rental car, so how on earth am I to save $$$ by staying at Disney World not having a rental car?" Well, first off, get off the plane, get into the rental car, and stay at a hotel of choice in Orlando.. do your stuff.. like Universal Studios, Cape Caneveral, Sea World, Water Parks, etc.. once you're done, drive back to MCO, drop off your car.. You'll have booked your Disney World hotel, inclusive of free transfer to your Disney World hotel.. jump on the Disney World Transfer Bus.. they'll drop you off at your hotel.. budda boom, budda ching.. save money on rental vehicle, while at Disney World.. get free transfer to Disney World.. and take advantage of Disney's all inclusive packages and options. You'll then ask, "Why stay at the resort?" Which now continues to the second reason to stay at Disney World..
Second, stay at Disney World Hotel, and get tickets with Meal Plan, and package inclusions, and possibly up to $750 gift card (deals fluctuate depending on time of year). Again, there is full transportation system to take you to and from anywhere in Disney World when you stay at a Disney World Resort Hotel. Disney tickets are not cheap.. you usually can only get a few bucks off if you tried. But, adding the Meal Plan (generally 30% off of meals everywhere you go), and access to parks early and late (depending on the day certain parks are open early and late), you will have a focused fun time with the family.. to boot with the gift card promo (of if you choose, discount on your hotel room).. it will be a nice relaxing time, saving money not having a rental.
Alot of the restaurants are hard to book and expensive.. but when you have the meal plan, you can go anywhere there is Disney Dining, and usually save a good dollar. I listed the hard to get into restaurants.. so be sure to book ahead because the good restaurants fill up fast.. and the good restaurants doesn't cost any more than the mediocre restaurants.. Its all about working their system. Usually most restaurants require one credit.. the castle lunch/supper requires two credits.. so look at the pricings of the menu and decide where you want to eat before hand (i.e. Italian restaurant at Magic Kingdom average meal is $15 to $18, but Crystal Palace for Supper is $34.99 approximately per person, and uses one dining credit.. or lunch at Fort Wilderness Campground restaurant $12 to $14, or supper at Le Cellier $35 to $40 for just the entree, plus appetizer, drink, a value of $50 pp.. one dining credit. Mickey's Back yard BBQ $35, vs Magic Kingdom Castle $60.. 2 dining credits). Like I said shop around and get the best bang for the buck.. and the restaurants representing good value will generally booked up fast. That's how you can tell.
Well, I hope that many more secrets by other FTers will pop up. Our family may be going down again next year.. this time I would like to get three weeks in at Orlando.
Some Secrets I've Learned in Orlando
Don't buy tickets at the stall for non-Disney attractions. Usually, each hotel has a concierge selling tickets and you can get discounted tickets there or at various third party kiosks. If you got an extra dead day, and you've got 2.5 hours to burn.. just do a time share presentation (ugh!), but literally we did that the first time, and it was drawn out, but we got tickets, and ticket packages pretty much 40% off.. You can still get ticket deals through third parties, so its still better than going buying at the kiosks. For Example, with these resellers, a 7 day Universal Pass is cheaper than a 1 day Universal Pass (if memory serve me correctly).. and package deals to multiple attractions will save you even more. Want to save money on tickets and have a little bit of extra time.. then check out third party reseller, see what they can offer you.
Lots of dining options throughout Orlando's International Blvd.. Gosh, this Pizza Buffet was $5.95 all you can eat pasta and pizza. Ponderosa and Sizzlers seems to have unbelievable cheap meal prices, and you never walk away hungry.
Conclusion
Rent a car and do your stuff around Orlando before heading to Disney.. Disney World will be the climax of your trip, and really should be last to make it most memorable. Get the 10 day pass and pretty much the same price as a 4 day pass (about $3 per day difference).. its the best deal.. and staying at the Resorts will get you discounted rooms or Disney Gift Card, discounted meals, early park access, and all of the package inclusions.. and ultimately no worries having to other stuff in between.:)
Crazyhotelguy
May 15, 10, 4:29 pm
I'm surprised how old some of these threads are getting and how little info is available for Disney World. So I though I would start a thread where we can communicate the secrets of Disney World.
Hard to get into Restaurants you need to book in advance (some even 90 days in advance) by phone reservations
Le Cellier - Epcot Pavilion
Chef Mickey's - Contemporary Resort
Disney World Castle - Magic Kingdom (get a free photo)
Mickey's Back Yard Barbecue - Fort Wilderness Resort
Garden Grill - Epcot
Princess Akershus - Norway Pavilion Epcot (get a free photo)
Ohanas - Polynesian Resort
1900 Park Fare - Grand Floridian Resort (get a photo, but must pay $30)
I would recommend a trip where you do everything else, before staying at Disney World.. This is why..
First, if you rent a vehicle, its pretty much useless when you stay at Disney World because of the bus systems, boats, and trains available. Plus save money on the rental car.. so rental, gas, and insurance no charge.
.. then you would probably ask.. "I just got off the plane, and got into a rental car, now I'm stuck with a rental car, so how on earth am I to save $$$ by staying at Disney World not having a rental car?" Well, first off, get off the plane, get into the rental car, and stay at a hotel of choice in Orlando.. do your stuff.. like Universal Studios, Cape Caneveral, Sea World, Water Parks, etc.. once you're done, drive back to MCO, drop off your car.. You'll have booked your Disney World hotel, inclusive of free transfer to your Disney World hotel.. jump on the Disney World Transfer Bus.. they'll drop you off at your hotel.. budda boom, budda ching.. save money on rental vehicle, while at Disney World.. get free transfer to Disney World.. and take advantage of Disney's all inclusive packages and options. You'll then ask, "Why stay at the resort?" Which now continues to the second reason to stay at Disney World..
Second, stay at Disney World Hotel, and get tickets with Meal Plan, and package inclusions, and possibly up to $750 gift card (deals fluctuate depending on time of year). Again, there is full transportation system to take you to and from anywhere in Disney World when you stay at a Disney World Resort Hotel. Disney tickets are not cheap.. you usually can only get a few bucks off if you tried. But, adding the Meal Plan (generally 30% off of meals everywhere you go), and access to parks early and late (depending on the day certain parks are open early and late), you will have a focused fun time with the family.. to boot with the gift card promo (of if you choose, discount on your hotel room).. it will be a nice relaxing time, saving money to boo.
Ok...... I agree we need more up to date data, but living 7 miles from Mickey, I have to say that I have some difference of opinion.
Of the restaurants mentioned, Ohana is the only one worth fighting for. (in my opinion)
Le CellIer would be a good option as well.
Chef Mickeys if you have little ones.
Have not done 1900 Park Fare, but Victoria &Alberts is worth a try for sure....
Avoid the Castle, as it is not really worth the expense. The Garden Grill is a bit overrated as well... Try Trail's End at Ft Wilderness. Also Boma at Animal Kingdom is very good. Cat Cora's place is pretty good. Try Morocco at Epcot...
I advise a car if you do not want the mouse to hold you captive. While there is Disney transport, it only takes you to Disney properties. Unless you do the dining plan , this could get costly.... Also, you will find that menus from one Disney restaurant to another begin to run together.
Also the lines for buses to the resorts can be long at peak hours...
Ancien Maestro
May 15, 10, 4:49 pm
Ok...... I agree we need more up to date data, but living 7 miles from Mickey, I have to say that I have some difference of opinion.
Of the restaurants mentioned, Ohana is the only one worth fighting for. (in my opinion)
Le CellIer would be a good option as well.
Chef Mickeys if you have little ones.
Have not done 1900 Park Fare, but Victoria &Alberts is worth a try for sure....
Avoid the Castle, as it is not really worth the expense. The Garden Grill is a bit overrated as well... Try Trail's End at Ft Wilderness. Also Boma at Animal Kingdom is very good. Cat Cora's place is pretty good. Try Morocco at Epcot...
I advise a car if you do not want the mouse to hold you captive. While there is Disney transport, it only takes you to Disney properties. Unless you do the dining plan , this could get costly.... Also, you will find that menus from one Disney restaurant to another begin to run together.
Also the lines for buses to the resorts can be long at peak hours...
So why is Ohana's worth fighting for?.. It was impossible for us to get in last time. I hear its one of the hardest to get into.
We've done Le Cellier.. great!.. Princess Akershus.. free princess picture and princess character dining.. great! Castle.. Our most memorable and best meal at Disney period.. free picture with princess.. but, yes only with the Dining Plan requiring 2 credits.. pricey if you pay for it.. but having done the castle.. I will definitely book the castle for each of our upcoming trips.. after all the only castle in the world you can dine in.. Awesome!
Trail's End.. cheap if you're paying.. not good value at all if you're on the dining plan.. it would be cheaper just to pay it outright and save your credits say for the castle.
I recommend the Garden Grill because it is Mickey Mouse Character Dining. Food is the same as the pub in Magic Kingdom though.. Takes one dining credit.. Besides, if you're travelling and coming off of the plane, you want to see Mickey!
BOMA I've heard is good, but located in one of the hotels (if memory serves me correctly), and not actually in Animal Kingdom.. so will be a bit of a logistical walk.. with kids and valuable time at Disney lost.. may not be ideal for families with little ones (we've got a 4 year old and a 4 month old. Yak & Yeti's is good.. hard to reserve, but lots of walk up room.
Morocco quick serve wasn't all that great.. I was excited, but walking out of there was not at all impressed. My wife hated it.. said she almost go sick eating.. too bad, I was excited to go to Morocco. Best quick serve restaurant we liked is the Japanese quick serve.
Cat Cora's is new.. Iron Woman chef I've heard.. How was your experience?
Crazyhotelguy
May 15, 10, 8:39 pm
So why is Ohana's worth fighting for?.. It was impossible for us to get in last time. I hear its one of the hardest to get into.
We've done Le Cellier.. great!.. Princess Akershus.. free princess picture and princess character dining.. great! Castle.. Our most memorable and best meal at Disney period.. free picture with princess.. but, yes only with the Dining Plan requiring 2 credits.. pricey if you pay for it.. but having done the castle.. I will definitely book the castle for each of our upcoming trips.. after all the only castle in the world you can dine in.. Awesome!
Trail's End.. cheap if you're paying.. not good value at all if you're on the dining plan.. it would be cheaper just to pay it outright and save your credits say for the castle.
I recommend the Garden Grill because it is Mickey Mouse Character Dining. Food is the same as the pub in Magic Kingdom though.. Takes one dining credit.. Besides, if you're travelling and coming off of the plane, you want to see Mickey!
BOMA I've heard is good, but located in one of the hotels (if memory serves me correctly), and not actually in Animal Kingdom.. so will be a bit of a logistical walk.. with kids and valuable time at Disney lost.. may not be ideal for families with little ones (we've got a 4 year old and a 4 month old. Yak & Yeti's is good.. hard to reserve, but lots of walk up room.
Morocco quick serve wasn't all that great.. I was excited, but walking out of there was not at all impressed. My wife hated it.. said she almost go sick eating.. too bad, I was excited to go to Morocco. Best quick serve restaurant we liked is the Japanese quick serve.
Cat Cora's is new.. Iron Woman chef I've heard.. How was your experience?
Ok, sorry for my disorganization... Typing on Iphone instead of pc. Bear with me.
I can see two perspectives here. Dining plan vs. No dining plan.
With the dining plan, some of the above mentioned are not bad. Garden Grill , aside from characters is really not worth all of the hoopla. Catfish, chicken, green beans, and potatoes. I believe there was some other stuff. Nothing really special for the price.
Ohana is our favorite. It is the experience and the food. Kind of lke a Texas De Brazil, but with Polynesian flair. A must do. Try to get a window table around firework time...
Boma is at Animal Kingdom Lodge. Sorry, forgot to add Lodge earlier. It is a buffet and easily accessible by bus or car.
Narcousse is at the Grand Floridian. Another good find.
I cannot speak for Morrocco Quick Serve, but the regular sit down is very good. The Belly Dancer is great....
Chefs De France is average and good in a pinch.
I really liked the Rose and Crown at the United Kingdom (Epcot)
trail's End is a Disney Bargain....
We did not care for the San Angel Inn (Mexico) at Epcot. However there is a new tequilla bar there that is pretty cool.
We did not care for Wave at the Contemporary. Menu is so near so many other restaurants on property.
Cat Cora's was pretty nice. It is on the Boardwalk. Try the whole fish special. You will get the "whole" fish.
Victoria & Alberts at the Grand Floridian us very nice. Much more of an adult place, but a must do, if you are into that sort of thing...
Crazyhotelguy
May 15, 10, 8:48 pm
One other note... We did the luau and were not really impressed. It was ok, but have heard the one at Sea World is a better bargain. The night we went to.Disney's, the fire juggler caught some things on the stage on fire. The place filled with smoke and we were pretty much run out of the area. Another night, i was told by a friend that the twirler very nearly lost his loin cloth. (why did we miss that night?)
dining plan is the absolute best way to do Disney. I am a little less critical when I am on the plan as opposed to paying for some meals. It is perspective.
Ancien Maestro
May 16, 10, 1:59 am
One other note... We did the luau and were not really impressed. It was ok, but have heard the one at Sea World is a better bargain. The night we went to.Disney's, the fire juggler caught some things on the stage on fire. The place filled with smoke and we were pretty much run out of the area. Another night, i was told by a friend that the twirler very nearly lost his loin cloth. (why did we miss that night?)
:D:D:D That is totally funny! Actually, guy that's crazy!:D
Garden Grill though basic.. I forgot to add its all you care to eat.. with Mickey, Chip & Dale, and Goofy.
Luau takes two credits and was sold out when we went.. not that we tried to go.. my wife isn't into luaus.. it was pulling teeth when we did one at the Big Island.. she made me cancel Kona Village Luau because she didn't want to go.. that's how bad she hates luaus.. but considering we had fantastic dining 22 nights b/w Big Island and Maui last month.
On the Dining Plan.. its' all about maxing out value.. getting the ceiling's worth.. For Example, why do a quick serve for $5, when you can get the chicken and ribs for $12.. Its' reverse economics when you're dealing with credits as opposed to paying.
For example, Crystal Palace for lunch is $17.99 and takes one credit.. but Crystal Palace for Supper is like $35.99 and still takes one credit as well. So if I'm paying, I'll pay for lunch since its' like the same buffet.. but if I'm on the meal plan, go for Supper because its almost twice as much.
I would have to agree with Trail's End being a great bargain. In terms of not so great values for dining credit.. Mickey's Back Yard BBQ is like $35.99 and takes two credits.. while you can go to the castle for like $62 or $65 and it takes two credits.. so might as well pay for the BBQ, and save the credits say for Hoop De Doo, Luau, or Castle which takes two credits. Le Cellier only takes one credit and I ordered a steak for supper for like $42.99, only one credit.. so I ordered another steak at the same sit down. But the good value restaurants are booked up sometimes 90 days in advance.. that would include Ohanas.
I didn't see the sit down restaurant for Morocco's.. is it behind?.. I looked all around the pavilion and really didn't find the sit down restaurant.
toomanybooks
May 16, 10, 6:57 am
We've been to The World about 12 times since 2002.
I'm a big guy and I eat a lot (way too much), but I found the regular Dining Plan to be too much food. It was WAY WAY overkill for my wife. The top-level plan (about $70 a day per person, 3 sit-downs) would have about killed us. I don't see how people can eat that much, especially in the warmer months. I'd have to nap 3 times a day, like a lizard.
We found that large parts of our trip were devoted to dining, worrying about dining, making sure we had reservations, making sure we had time to get around, leaving things we wanted to do because we had to make our meal (and then backtracking), sitting in restaurants, keeping track of credits, etc. It just wasn't worth it to us. We much prefer to do it on-the-fly to a degree.
For us, trying to get the "best deal" all the time was less important than other things. Just because some entree is priced at $30 doesn't make it worth it, or better than one for $12.
Plus we wanted to go to some off-site restaurants for a change of scenery (and food) and did not want to double-pay.
And we always get a rental car, because Orlando is one of the cheapest places in the country to rent cars (usually). I've sometimes had it down to around $12 a day, virtually nothing when you consider what you are paying for several people for the trip. We save enough on drinks by going to Wal-Mart to pay for the rental. $5.50 for a crummy beer in The World? $2.50 for bottled water? $14 for godawful wine? Gimme a break.
The Disney bus service is pretty good, but you still wait. Quite a bit sometimes, especially at day's end. This partially depends on what time of year you go and which resorts you are staying in. Value resorts are of course the worst in this regard. And not every location is served directly by every other; it's a modified hub-and-spoke system and can take a long time to take certain routes.
Of course, YMMV. There are no best answers for everyone.
Crazyhotelguy
May 16, 10, 7:31 am
We've been to The World about 12 times since 2002.
I'm a big guy and I eat a lot (way too much), but I found the regular Dining Plan to be too much food. It was WAY WAY overkill for my wife. The top-level plan (about $70 a day per person, 3 sit-downs) would have about killed us. I don't see how people can eat that much, especially in the warmer months. I'd have to nap 3 times a day, like a lizard.
We found that large parts of our trip were devoted to dining, worrying about dining, making sure we had reservations, making sure we had time to get around, leaving things we wanted to do because we had to make our meal (and then backtracking), sitting in restaurants, keeping track of credits, etc. It just wasn't worth it to us. We much prefer to do it on-the-fly to a degree.
For us, trying to get the "best deal" all the time was less important than other things. Just because some entree is priced at $30 doesn't make it worth it, or better than one for $12.
Plus we wanted to go to some off-site restaurants for a change of scenery (and food) and did not want to double-pay.
And we always get a rental car, because Orlando is one of the cheapest places in the country to rent cars (usually). I've sometimes had it down to around $12 a day, virtually nothing when you consider what you are paying for several people for the trip. We save enough on drinks by going to Wal-Mart to pay for the rental. $5.50 for a crummy beer in The World? $2.50 for bottled water? $14 for godawful wine? Gimme a break.
The Disney bus service is pretty good, but you still wait. Quite a bit sometimes, especially at day's end. This partially depends on what time of year you go and which resorts you are staying in. Value resorts are of course the worst in this regard. And not every location is served directly by every other; it's a modified hub-and-spoke system and can take a long time to take certain routes.
Of course, YMMV. There are no best answers for everyone.
Lots of good points... The dining plan has changed a bit and now operates more on credits, but you make valid points about time and quantity...
We eat two meals a day at the parks. Late breakfast/early lunch and Dinner. The quick serve option includes Entree, dessert, and drink. Value wise, it is great, but it is a lot of food, and I am a bigger guy, with a big boy appetite. I think this is why we like the dining plan...
That said, I am with you on the rental. I am biased by the fact I live here and often I would prefer the tourists take a taxi and not clog up I4, but if I were coming down, I would want a car...
Ancien Maestro
May 16, 10, 12:08 pm
IMO.. top tier three sit down meals is overkill as well. We went on the one quick serve, one sit down, and one snack to be plenty enough. Offers flexibility. We found that if you find an inexpensive restaurant option that you want to eat at, but not necessarily want to use the credit for.. then pay for it.. and stock up dining credits to where its most useful for.
I'm a big boy too.. 6'5" 265 lbs.. I was satisfied. Don't want to get too much more big.. just satisfied.
What's with Disney World and big kids like us.. This dining plan attracts us like flies.:D
I must be missing these rental deals, cause to rent a mini van would have cost me $350US lowest price during the summer we went. When we went it costs us like $700US for the mini van for 18 nights.. and I checked all of the reputable rental places and couldn't find anything cheaper for a minivan.
The transfer option from the airport was great.^ If we do it again, rent the car and do all the stuff.. drop it off at the airport.. get transferred to Disney World and focus on less hassles. Our family did that last time.. and it was a breath of fresh air not renting the minivan.. we've always rented something on alll other vacations.. found it quite relaxing and a bit of a money saver.^
Crazyhotelguy
May 16, 10, 4:33 pm
IMO.. top tier three sit down meals is overkill as well. We went on the one quick serve, one sit down, and one snack to be plenty enough. Offers flexibility. We found that if you find an inexpensive restaurant option that you want to eat at, but not necessarily want to use the credit for.. then pay for it.. and stock up dining credits to where its most useful for.
I'm a big boy too.. 6'5" 265 lbs.. I was satisfied. Don't want to get too much more big.. just satisfied.
What's with Disney World and big kids like us.. This dining plan attracts us like flies.:D
I must be missing these rental deals, cause to rent a mini van would have cost me $350US lowest price during the summer we went. When we went it costs us like $700US for the mini van for 18 nights.. and I checked all of the reputable rental places and couldn't find anything cheaper for a minivan.
The transfer option from the airport was great.^ If we do it again, rent the car and do all the stuff.. drop it off at the airport.. get transferred to Disney World and focus on less hassles. Our family did that last time.. and it was a breath of fresh air not renting the minivan.. we've always rented something on alll other vacations.. found it quite relaxing and a bit of a money saver.^
If you limit yourself to a minivan, you are probably not going to find the best deal. Hotwire or PL, or even choosing a Full size would open up the deals, if there are 4 or less. YMMV.
Ancien Maestro
May 16, 10, 4:54 pm
If you limit yourself to a minivan, you are probably not going to find the best deal. Hotwire or PL, or even choosing a Full size would open up the deals, if there are 4 or less. YMMV.
Wifey insists on a minivan.. It was like a $100 a day at the Big Island.. but i got a 15 day rental down to $800. With a family and small kids, minivan is the way to go.^ But, the companies jam you for it.. We actually had an upgraded 2010 Toyotal Sienna LE, so was worth the bucks in Orlando.. All the bells and whistles.. but yeah, quite expensive to rent.:cool:
Ancien Maestro
May 17, 10, 7:21 pm
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toomanybooks
May 18, 10, 6:26 am
I must be missing these rental deals, cause to rent a mini van would have cost me $350US lowest price during the summer we went. When we went it costs us like $700US for the mini van for 18 nights.. and I checked all of the reputable rental places and couldn't find anything cheaper for a minivan.
I usually start at www.southwest.com looking for car deals. Not sure why, but I often do best there. Sometimes I have to go to the websites of the individual car companies.
Remember sometimes coupons can stack on top of Sam's Club or Costco or other discounts. Don't forget Entertainment Book coupons.
Weekend specials are worth watching, too.
At the Chicago seminar FT DO in October (see link in my signature) you could meet guys who are the real experts at this stuff. They rent cars all the time for $10 a day all-in or less, and still get the free weekends and top elite in every program.
Ancien Maestro
May 18, 10, 9:07 am
I usually start at www.southwest.com looking for car deals. Not sure why, but I often do best there. Sometimes I have to go to the websites of the individual car companies.
Remember sometimes coupons can stack on top of Sam's Club or Costco or other discounts. Don't forget Entertainment Book coupons.
Weekend specials are worth watching, too.
At the Chicago seminar FT DO in October (see link in my signature) you could meet guys who are the real experts at this stuff. They rent cars all the time for $10 a day all-in or less, and still get the free weekends and top elite in every program.
Good tips!^ The costco one I've not tried yet since I'm a member already.. I've tried Entertainment, Quicksilver online.. seems the best minivan deals MCO is at Alamo. Will try southwest.com too.. we'll probably head up to Orlando next year before Junior turns 2.
thegeneral
May 24, 10, 8:58 am
We actually had an upgraded 2010 Toyotal Sienna LE
Upgraded to include not reporting safety issues, ignoring safety issues and upgraded braking/acceleration? As someone who travels with Hertz every week, they're 'upgrading' people into Toyotas now because Toyota has had to keep their sales figures up. They've started dumping inventory into the rental companies.
You might want to think about going with a reliable company next time. Either that or take a hammer with you so you can escape the car if it suddenly accelerates into a body of water.
PDILLM
May 31, 10, 7:43 am
Upgraded to include not reporting safety issues, ignoring safety issues and upgraded braking/acceleration? As someone who travels with Hertz every week, they're 'upgrading' people into Toyotas now because Toyota has had to keep their sales figures up. They've started dumping inventory into the rental companies.
You might want to think about going with a reliable company next time. Either that or take a hammer with you so you can escape the car if it suddenly accelerates into a body of water.
Is it ratings season already? :p
Ancien Maestro
Jun 2, 10, 12:35 am
Upgraded to include not reporting safety issues, ignoring safety issues and upgraded braking/acceleration? As someone who travels with Hertz every week, they're 'upgrading' people into Toyotas now because Toyota has had to keep their sales figures up. They've started dumping inventory into the rental companies.
You might want to think about going with a reliable company next time. Either that or take a hammer with you so you can escape the car if it suddenly accelerates into a body of water.
Maybe the rental rates on the Siennas have gone down lately.:D We only go in minivans, Siennas still the preference. I think all Toyotas have been recalled except Sienna for acceleration issues for some reason. They did a recall on the rusting spare tire wiring, but not for acceleration issues.
Don't know whats worse.. Caravan back doors with popping open, Sienna spare tire mechanism/radiator leak recall, or Firestones blowing up.:rolleyes:
withatwist
Jun 27, 10, 4:08 am
I'm trying to think of some "secrets" for you all here. Unused dining plan credits have no value so redeem them all before the end of your trip. This one is actually more of a secret...If you have table service meals left over at the end of your trip they can be exchanged for snacks. 1 meal = 4 snacks...but it doesn't work the other way around :( You'll likely only be able to redeem them at your resort, since not every location knows how to do this, and it may even require a manager's assistance, but its better than letting your money go to waste.
Ancien Maestro
Jul 21, 10, 9:40 pm
If you got in the heat, plan your park visit around first thing in the morning, take a break in the afternoon (pool or nap at the hotel), then return for the evening.
Your body and the kids will survive many more days if you do this strategy.
Also, make a sitdown meal for lunch. Save money and enjoy the a/c during the heat moreso than the evening/dinner meal.
I agree that doing the sitdown meal for lunch is the way to go.. in air conditioning and taking a break from the heat during the day.. Other strategies we found that worked is to do inside attractions for most of afternoon, and breaking for a nice ice cream snack in the middle of the afternoon.. also sitting in front of water fans does the trick..
withatwist
Jul 22, 10, 1:23 am
Another tip to beat the heat.. Stop by Club Cool at Epcot for free samples of Coke products from around the world. You can go in and drink as much as you'd like. Be sure to try the "Beverly" ;)
mikew99
Jul 22, 10, 11:21 am
If you got in the heat, plan your park visit around first thing in the morning, take a break in the afternoon (pool or nap at the hotel), then return for the evening.
This has been my favorite Disney strategy for years, and I can't emphasize enough how much of a difference it makes for my visits!
It can be a struggle for me to get there right at opening, but the lines are shorter and the weather is cooler. I leave around 2 pm, when the park is busy and lines are long, and the sun is bearing down. I go have lunch and a nap or movie. I return around 6 pm, when people who have been there all day are exhausted and start to leave, and the sun starts setting so it cools off a bit. Much more tolerable than trying to tackle it all in one shot.
robtking
Aug 7, 10, 3:48 pm
Yak & Yeti is sup-par on their porition for their price. Boma is definatley superior.
Staying Feb-March or in the Fall is definatley better, as the traffic in the park is FAR FAR less, meaning less lines for attractions, reservations, and you can usually grab a great discount on the resorts if you book during those times!
Ancien Maestro
Aug 11, 10, 8:58 pm
For the meal plan, Yak & Yeti was not bad.. hard to get a reservation.. but walk up traffic seems to get tables pronto.. of course we were observing best value for meal credits and we liked the atmosphere at Y&Y. Had a Boma reservation, I think we let it go because it wan't actually in the theme park (can't remember if this was the reason).
ZeppoX
Aug 19, 10, 11:36 am
We go annually with our little one -- not so little any more but still buys into the magic.
I have to agree with those who skip the dining plan because they perceive it as too much food and too much trouble.
We consistently spend less dining on our own than we would have spent on the dining plan (though right now there is a free dining plan promo). And we like the flexibility to make our own choices -- as in, we have leftovers in the fridge, let's cancel our reservation for tonight.
The thread says "secrets," and here's two, though really not-so-secret.
The secondary restaurants in the deluxe resorts, such as Kona Cafe in the Polynesian, are often overlooked, especially by first-time visitors. If not trying to max out the "value" of the dining plan, these places offer great dinners for somewhat less. (That said, Coral Reef in Epcot is a must every time we visit.)
We try to book the last seating of lunch or the first seating of dinner when we go to high-end places such as Coral Reef, or a character meal. That puts our big meal of the day around 3 or 4 p.m., and this seems to be a more likely time to get in than traditional meal times. We've also found that having dinner at that time works out well for our other activities, such as enjoying the theme parks after dark.
Ancien Maestro
Aug 19, 10, 5:30 pm
Honk.. How do you find reconciling DW with beliefs.. for some years, my wife was a bit weary of the magic stuff.. but over the years we just figured that the actual word meant having a good feeling and a nice time with the family.
Flews
Oct 12, 10, 6:40 am
We're going early December. I can't believe how hard it is to book dinner and/or breakfast reservations.
With the exception of one "non-Mickey" breakfast place at Disney Studios, can't find anything available for character dining. Our first time for our 2.5 year-old-twins. Guess we'll just have to 'bump' into Mickey when we're out and about!
Cheers,
flyerwife
Oct 13, 10, 3:44 pm
Flews,
Are you trying to book through the on-line reservation system? You should check it EVERY day; be flexible with your times, and dare I say, you might even try to book a table for 5 and then when you show up, tell them you are a party of just 4. You'd be amazed at what works ;)
Orlando Vic
Oct 13, 10, 5:48 pm
Since we are revealing WDW secrets, I'm going to give you a good one. In fact I have only shared it with a few close friends before. If you are having difficulty getting a reservation at one of the better restaurants (e.g. Artist Point, California Grill, etc) online or by using the phone number 407-WDW-DINE, there is one person who has the power (and I mean power) to override the Advance Dining Reservation system. At each hotel restaurant (possibly others too) there is a person called the "Guest Services Manager" who can literally work magic for you. The trouble is that their names are not public knowledge and their phone numbers are unlisted. To call the Guest Services Manager at X restaurant, I would call the hotel and ask to be connected to the Guest Services Manager at that Restaurant. They will not reveal the name or the number, but the GSM will, if you get through to them.
The various WDW resort numbers are not hard to find. I easily found these: http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/contact.htm
Flews
Oct 15, 10, 8:30 am
Thanks for these tips! I shall try them and report back.
I also thought I might call Disney the day my $4500 payment is due (next week) and suggest I am having second thoughts because I can't even get my kids a booking for a simple breakfast with Mickey for that price! I expect a supervisor might be able to work some 'magic' - a la the suggestion above about speaking to a guest service manager - if they thought I was going to pull the plug over such an easily delivered perk...
Thanks again.
Cheers,
Mary2e
Oct 15, 10, 2:39 pm
You can try, but there's no way they can do anything for you at the reservations number. Keep in mind that they probably will sell your room if you cancel, and $4500 doesn't go very far at Disney. It is not an easily delivered perk. Even with a reservation there is a line to get in and they don't take walk-ups at all.
I was on their top of the line package which included every activity and meal imaginable, cost about $6k for 2 people without admissions, had access to their special planning concierges who made reservations for me, and still wasn't able to get a few of my requests.
You have to realize that eating at Chef Mickeys is the second most popular meal in Disney. The most popular is having breakfast in the castle with the Princesses. Both sell out as soon as reservations open.
You can try to call daily at around 7am EDT to see if anything opened up overnight. I also had breakfast with Mickey at 11:20am, which is their last sitting.
You might also want to try dinner at Chef Mickey's - but it's also very tough to get.
Your best option is to call daily and be flexible with your dates and times.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 15, 10, 2:51 pm
Mary2e.. are you the Mary that runs the www.mousesavers.com website?
Regarding Mickey Character meals (double check if these restaurants still have Mickey coming around, because Liberty Tree Tavern at MK no longer offers Mickey).. Try Garden Grill at Epcot, and Mickey's Back Yard BBQ.
Mary2e
Oct 15, 10, 3:05 pm
Nope, that's not me.
Mickey's BBQ is a few evenings a week and has Mickey & chip & Dale. At last check, the Garden Grill did not have Mickey, but I haven't eaten there in a while. Both only offer dinner.
Mickey is a VERY hard ticket to get. He's only around for Breakfast and Dinner. At least the princesses are around in 2 restaurants for 3 meals :)
You can check to see what meals Mickey will show up at by using the dining reservation tool at disneyworld.com. You can search by character meals, and perhaps even character. I'm not 100% sure, but at least you will see all of them in one place and read the descriptions.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 15, 10, 8:27 pm
I know Liberty Tree Tavern at MK no longer has any character dining which previously included Mickey. Garden Grill last year had Mickey, Goofy, and Chip & Dale.. they still have Chip & Dale, so that'll have to be checked on if Mickey is still there.. I know a couple of years ago, Disney wasn't advertising Mickey on their website, and that's still the case.. We've dined at Garden Grill in Oct 08.. and last year Mickey was there at Garden Grill as well making his rounds.
Donald's Safari Breakfast at Tusker House Animal Kingdom has Donald Duck, Daisy Duck, Goofy and Mickey.. but only for breakfast.
Cape May Cafe at Disney's Beach Club Resort has a character breakfast.. they are advertising Mickey's picture on the website at www.disneyworld.com .. one can only assume that Mickey is in this as well.
We did Mickey's Backyard BBQ August 09.. IMO, don't use the Disney Dining Plan on this as it takes 2 credits.. just pay for the ticket as it was around $37 pp, around the cut off for 1 credit. Mickey's Backyard BBQ had Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse.
We managed to book New Years day at Chef Mickey's.. we will try this out.. I see availability for lunch, although we booked supper. Is it better for lunch or for supper at Chef Mickey's? Mary2e, anything special ever go on New Year's day, or pretty much the same show?
EDIT: I found a reservation for 2 at Cinderella Castle at Magic Kingdom on Christmas Day.. it was too tempting not to take.. so we booked and prepaid 2 adults.. Plus we'll have our 5 year old and 1 year old with us.. do you think that this will be a problem at minimum having them sit on our lap, or getting an extra chair around the small table (assuming they may not have an appropriate table for 4)? Christmas Day will be a zoo and we're probably not going to want to stand, so may as well have a long drawn out Christmas Supper in the castle.. at least hoping this'll work.
Mary2e
Oct 16, 10, 9:33 am
We managed to book New Years day at Chef Mickey's.. we will try this out.. I see availability for lunch, although we booked supper. Is it better for lunch or for supper at Chef Mickey's? Mary2e, anything special ever go on New Year's day, or pretty much the same show?
Haven't a clue :) But if they're opening for lunch, that means they're expecting huge crowds :) Perhaps they only do it for the holidays. I would get there at least 30 minutes prior to your reservations, as you normally have to wait about 15 minutes anyway.
EDIT: I found a reservation for 2 at Cinderella Castle at Magic Kingdom on Christmas Day.. it was too tempting not to take.. so we booked and prepaid 2 adults.. Plus we'll have our 5 year old and 1 year old with us.. do you think that this will be a problem at minimum having them sit on our lap, or getting an extra chair around the small table (assuming they may not have an appropriate table for 4)? Christmas Day will be a zoo and we're probably not going to want to stand, so may as well have a long drawn out Christmas Supper in the castle.. at least hoping this'll work.You better call on this - they may want to charge you for the 5 year old, and also have to know if they need a highchair or extra chair. If you booked for 2 people, they will give you a small table for 2 and it will be very difficult for you to fit 4 people, even if 2 of them are small - and the tables are close together.
I know you feel you got a big bonus by scoring a reservation, but you are most likely going to have problems OR will have to wait longer until a larger table is available.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 17, 10, 4:08 pm
Thanks Mary2e.. called in yesterday and talked to a Grandma working over the reservations line.. she said would keep the reservation and try to work it out at Cinderella's Royal Table front desk on location. The chances of the frond desk refusing small children on Christmas day is slim.
I fully expect to pay for the 5 year old on the add.. for sure. We are at the castle on Christmas eve as well celebration my youngest child's 1 year old birthday, and have paid for the 5 year old's meal already as we managed to get a reservation for 4 lunch time. Just on Christmas day there was only a table for 2 available, so I jumped on it hoping to work it out to pay for the 5 year old when we get there.
Counting on Christmas Day to be a zoo.. so long as we're in and off of our feet, it will be a big bonus.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 17, 10, 4:09 pm
Use Fast Pass and Parent Swap in Conjunction.. Depending on the Ride, Double the Fun
Talking to a Grandma handling the reservation line, and she confirmed this tip. If both parents get a Fast Pass and a Parent Swap pass, it can be used in conjunction.. so the following strategy she has used in the past for attractions at Disney World, and I will give it a shot when we arrive this December. Please note: subject to verification and comments by disboard.com members
Scenario One..
Both parents obtain Fast Passes.. and both parents obtain a Parent Swap Pass. First parent goes in and rides the attraction, comes out and hands over a Parent Swap Ticket.. the second parent goes in and rides the attraction. The second parent comes out and goes in again with the fast pass, comes out hands over to the first parent a parent swap ticket. The first parent goes in and rides the attraction. Result.. 4 fast pass rides instead of 2.
Scenario Two..
Since only one Fast Pass can be obtained by each individual, maybe it would be more worthwhile if each parent obtains a fast pass to two different attractions. Attraction "A" the first parent obtains fast pass, goes in, rides, comes out and hand Parent Swap Pass to second parent.. second parent goes in and rides Attraction "A".
Then the second Parent rides via fast pass Attraction "B", comes out, hands a Parent Swap Ticket to first parent, and goes in and rides Attraction "B". Result.. 4 fast pass rides instead of 2.
Scenario Three..
I heard that if there is a child who qualifies by height depending on the attraction, the child can accompany both parents each time they go on these rides. This is subject to verification. We have a one year old accompanying us who won't qualify for anything.. so this strategy has just recently surfaced for us, because of our family situation.
EDIT: Scenario Four..
Does anyone know if Disney World hands out parent swap tickets for those in the handicapped line? If so, the benefits may accentuate.. For example, with a small child, a parent will have to wait on the sidelines, as the handicapped party goes thru. So a parent swap ticket is handed out to the parent who's babysitting when the party comes out, so that the parent babysitting can go in and enjoy the attraction.
Mary2e
Oct 17, 10, 4:24 pm
I'd be careful with that reservation on Christmas Day. While some of the agents are quite good, they don't work in parks/restaurants and haven't a clue what they're talking about.
You may end up waiting a while. Better that you call daily, at 7am EDT to see if something opens up rather than have to wait for a long time.
As well, there is no handicap line. There used to be, but non-handicapped people started getting wheelchairs just to get on the shorter lines, so Disney stopped it.
When I got stuck in a wheelchair I had to wait in line along with everyone else. They did make concessions once I got to the front, such as slowing down the moving walkways so I could get on the ride, but that was about it.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 17, 10, 8:02 pm
Thanks Mary2e.. The agent did mention to check in once or twice a day.. and I've been checking the online reservation system for Christmas supper with no luck.. except when the sitting for 2 came up, and I took it. The strategy is to continue to look for availability, but its not hopeful since its' Christmas Day.. and everyone and their dog is trying to get into the castle.. not to mention every other restaurant is sold out except maybe for the Plaza (Sandwiches, Milkshakes and such).
Our grandma was in a scooter last year (having had 5 hernia surgeries, and knee surgery) as she couldn't walk far distances. So where there was handicapped lines, the entire family went. Some lines were shorter in the Magic Kingdom .. while newer built attractions had us going into the same line. The rides at Magic Kingdom that had seperate handicapped access saved an hour+ in some of the long waits at Magic Kingdom.. i.e. Peter Pan, Small World, Snow White, etc. This December however, there is no grandma coming with us, so we'll be toughing it out like the rest.. except now having received the Parent Swap fast pass tip, the excursion should be a bit smoother throughout the 21 days we'll be at the parks.
Sorry to hear that you were in a wheelchair Mary2e.. hopefully that was just a temporary thing. You sound young and very resilient on FT.
Have you been to Disney World during Christmas/New Years before.. you've been there 50 times I understand.. how was the castle on Christmas Day?
Mary2e
Oct 18, 10, 7:55 am
Thanks Mary2e.. The agent did mention to check in once or twice a day.. and I've been checking the online reservation system for Christmas supper with no luck.. except when the sitting for 2 came up, and I took it. The strategy is to continue to look for availability, but its not hopeful since its' Christmas Day.. and everyone and their dog is trying to get into the castle.. not to mention every other restaurant is sold out except maybe for the Plaza (Sandwiches, Milkshakes and such).
Just keep trying. You never know. But I would call rather than check the online system. Or at least do a combination of both. I do know that the tables for 2 are tiny, and they're not going to appreciate you walking up with 4 people on one of their extremely busy days. You could end up waiting a long while.
Sorry to hear that you were in a wheelchair Mary2e.. hopefully that was just a temporary thing. You sound young and very resilient on FT.It was temporary. I fell off a Segway during the Wilderness Tour at Ft. Wilderness and hurt my knee. Having a wheelchair allowed us to get around without it taking forever.
Have you been to Disney World during Christmas/New Years before.. you've been there 50 times I understand.. how was the castle on Christmas Day? I was there for New Years and won't do it again. I'm not crazy enough to try Christmas as many people think they're going to be on TV during the parade so they go on that day. The parade is filmed weeks before :)
As for New Years - it was so crowded, including all the roads on the property and those surrounding it, that a normal 15 minute drive would take 45 minutes. It was that bad. This year it falls on the weekend and I imagine it's even going to be worse. We didn't even try to get into a park.
Don't say you haven't been warned. I would do whatever I really wanted to in the week before Christmas and be grateful for anything you can do around it.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 18, 10, 5:54 pm
Thanks Mary2e.. with the 21 day Ultimate Ticket, we'll probably do what we feel like and not worry too much about it.. The strategy as you've said is to hit all of the attractions before the crowd arrives and after.. Counting 9 days before Christmas, 4 days after news years eve.. So 13 full days around Christmas week.
When the crowds hit the week of Christmas Day and New Years Eve.. take it easy and enjoy the festivities, restaurants and shows that are easy enough to get into.. or go home a bit early and relax. I'm making it a point to book restaurant reservations at Magic Kingdom on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.. we'll spend New Year's Eve at Epcot, and New Years Day at Magic Kingdom.. all other days is up in the air.
Funny, I was online with the agent checking for dining reservations, and she said no availability.. At that time I typed in and searched online for reservations, and availability popped up (didn't search until after she searched, so no dining reservations locked in). The agent was quite surprised.. seems like we've got to check out both to get the complete story.
Also, my neighbors went down to Disney World for Christmas Week and loved it.. They were on the Disney Dining Plan.. and they said that they would do it again. We're going to brace ourselves.. we're also going to be realistic as well.
Ancien Maestro
Oct 21, 10, 12:57 pm
When attending Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach, its' free to park. Other websites describes free parking such as..
Although I wouldn't park in the cast members' lot, I think a discussion amongst Disney goers have been to park at the Water Parks/Downtown Disney and take the transportation to theme parks..
safetymom
Oct 21, 10, 2:35 pm
Thanks Mary2e.. called in yesterday and talked to a Grandma working over the reservations line.. she said would keep the reservation and try to work it out at Cinderella's Royal Table front desk on location. The chances of the frond desk refusing small children on Christmas day is slim.
I fully expect to pay for the 5 year old on the add.. for sure. We are at the castle on Christmas eve as well celebration my youngest child's 1 year old birthday, and have paid for the 5 year old's meal already as we managed to get a reservation for 4 lunch time. Just on Christmas day there was only a table for 2 available, so I jumped on it hoping to work it out to pay for the 5 year old when we get there.
Counting on Christmas Day to be a zoo.. so long as we're in and off of our feet, it will be a big bonus.
You may have to wait longer while they see if they can accomodate you. They have refused to seat extra people.
withatwist
Oct 31, 10, 3:34 am
Since we are revealing WDW secrets, I'm going to give you a good one. In fact I have only shared it with a few close friends before. If you are having difficulty getting a reservation at one of the better restaurants (e.g. Artist Point, California Grill, etc) online or by using the phone number 407-WDW-DINE, there is one person who has the power (and I mean power) to override the Advance Dining Reservation system. At each hotel restaurant (possibly others too) there is a person called the "Guest Services Manager" who can literally work magic for you. The trouble is that their names are not public knowledge and their phone numbers are unlisted. To call the Guest Services Manager at X restaurant, I would call the hotel and ask to be connected to the Guest Services Manager at that Restaurant. They will not reveal the name or the number, but the GSM will, if you get through to them.
Not a big secret here. A Guest Service Manager, or in this case Restaurant Guest Service Manager, is just your ordinary restaurant manager. Just be sure to have a valid reason for calling them. While they can "work magic" for guests, it shouldn't be assumed that just calling and saying "my kid really wants to eat here but we can't get a reservation" will get you in.
If you want to take the GSM approach, here's a better tip. Make friends with some of the managers at your favorite restaurants. After just one or two trips they will remember you. You'll be surprised how easily they can squeeze you in.
safetymom
Oct 31, 10, 6:01 am
Do you realize when you think you are calling the resort you are talking with a call center?
Mary2e
Oct 31, 10, 7:55 am
Do you realize when you think you are calling the resort you are talking with a call center?Most people don't know that, but if you ask for a specific department, they will transfer you.
I wanted to order a birthday cake for my husband and the contemporary, and was put through to room service, which handles it (for the non-special cakes).
Ancien Maestro
Oct 31, 10, 12:41 pm
Working up the ladder may help the cause.. Thanks for everyone's input.. I've hadn't had any luck finding another reservation at the Cinderella's Castle Christmas Day.. I've been checking daily and calling in once in awhile, but my assumption is that there would be the unlikelihood of being able to grab a larger table without speaking to reservations onsite. I imagine there are probably a 100,000 others trying to get in, and all of the Magic Kingdom restaurants are booked up for Christmas Supper.
At least we've got a toehold into this exclusive fold so far..^
withatwist
Nov 1, 10, 3:43 am
When you arrive at the restaurant to check-in, just inform them that instead of a party of 2 you are now 4. Happens all the time. They will accommodate you. They don't literally save a small table with your name on it. You'll just get the next available 4 top instead of 2 top.
Incidentally, when searching for reservations at restaurants that don't require prepayment try using different party sizes. If nothing is available for a party of 2, try searching for 4 or 5, and vice versa. Then just book your reservation, and when you arrive tell them you're actually only going to be 2 (or however many you have)..doesn't matter. You may have to wait a little while past your reservation time for a larger (or smaller) table to become available, but they will get your whole party seated.
Ancien Maestro
Nov 1, 10, 10:15 am
When you arrive at the restaurant to check-in, just inform them that instead of a party of 2 you are now 4. Happens all the time. They will accommodate you. They don't literally save a small table with your name on it. You'll just get the next available 4 top instead of 2 top.
Incidentally, when searching for reservations at restaurants that don't require prepayment try using different party sizes. If nothing is available for a party of 2, try searching for 4 or 5, and vice versa. Then just book your reservation, and when you arrive tell them you're actually only going to be 2 (or however many you have)..doesn't matter. You may have to wait a little while past your reservation time for a larger (or smaller) table to become available, but they will get your whole party seated.
Thanks for the heads up.. With the reservation being on Christmas Day at the castle, my wife and I are willing to sit at a table for 2 with the children on our laps.. This'll be pretty special for the kids.^
Ancien Maestro
Nov 4, 10, 10:56 pm
I was able to get friend's access to Unoffical Guide membership Cheat Sheets which outlines the best parks to visit and when, and depending on the level of crowds in any given time of year. This would include specific dates and historical levels of crowd.. Makes the visit a bit more scientific, but I guess less frustrating.
robtking
Nov 10, 10, 10:15 pm
Since we are revealing WDW secrets, I'm going to give you a good one. In fact I have only shared it with a few close friends before. If you are having difficulty getting a reservation at one of the better restaurants (e.g. Artist Point, California Grill, etc) online or by using the phone number 407-WDW-DINE, there is one person who has the power (and I mean power) to override the Advance Dining Reservation system. At each hotel restaurant (possibly others too) there is a person called the "Guest Services Manager" who can literally work magic for you. The trouble is that their names are not public knowledge and their phone numbers are unlisted. To call the Guest Services Manager at X restaurant, I would call the hotel and ask to be connected to the Guest Services Manager at that Restaurant. They will not reveal the name or the number, but the GSM will, if you get through to them.
The various WDW resort numbers are not hard to find. I easily found these: http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/contact.htm
Getting to the GSM is much easier said than done. I have a hard time speaking to them and they are my direct boss :)
Ancien Maestro
Nov 11, 10, 8:57 pm
I haven't tried yet.. I don't think I have snowball's chance in Florida, unless I'm onsite. Will try soon and report back.
Ancien Maestro
Nov 14, 10, 10:58 pm
Just loaded the Blackberry App for entire Disney World attraction wait times. Great Tool.^
Hopefully I can figure out a way around the roaming date charges by the time we get to Florida (month from today) so I can use this tool, and not get charged $1 per minute. :( Any tips to deal with Roger's Mobility roaming charges?:)
atsak
Dec 14, 10, 2:19 pm
Just loaded the Blackberry App for entire Disney World attraction wait times. Great Tool.^
Hopefully I can figure out a way around the roaming date charges by the time we get to Florida (month from today) so I can use this tool, and not get charged $1 per minute. :( Any tips to deal with Roger's Mobility roaming charges?:)
Call them first and ask for a package. They have a $10 US Roaming pack that means there's no other charges for data roaming there. This has changed markedly in the last year; Telus ate their lunch by coming out with a reasonably priced integrated data package so they had to make a more reasonable package to stay competitive.
Ancien Maestro
Dec 14, 10, 6:10 pm
Call them first and ask for a package. They have a $10 US Roaming pack that means there's no other charges for data roaming there. This has changed markedly in the last year; Telus ate their lunch by coming out with a reasonably priced integrated data package so they had to make a more reasonable package to stay competitive.
My blackberry is with Rogers.. Got the $10 Data +$1 per meg of data Package. Tracked my use, only 11 meg of data average per month. I've also got a voice roaming package - $75 for 240 minutes. Expensive, but that's the best package they've got.