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kyklin
Apr 15, 99, 12:26 pm
Very interesting article... a good piece by Ms. Brannigan

April 15, 1999
Page One Feature
Tired Delta Crew Diverts Flight,
Blames Cramped New Berths
By MARTHA BRANNIGAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


Just how tired were Delta Air Lines Capt. Roscoe McMillan and his crew last Wednesday when he diverted his Atlanta-to-Tokyo flight to Portland, Ore., and called it a day?

Too tired, in his judgment, based on more than 30 years as a Delta pilot, to continue safely with the 14-hour journey to Narita International Airport, according to what the captain told Delta officials. The problem: Two of the other pilots couldn't sleep in the aircraft's controversial new berths, and based on earlier experience, Capt. McMillan figured he couldn't either.

"The captain felt the crew had not had satisfactory rest," says Bill Berry, a Delta spokesman.

An Uncommon Reason

Delta management, however, isn't so sure. Mr. Berry says this is the first time a pilot has diverted a flight because of the new beds, which Delta began installing in December on its long-haul McDonnell Douglas MD-11s. And while flights are sometimes cut short when bad weather or other delays eat up the pilots' legal flying time, Mr. Berry says he is unaware of any diversions caused when a captain pronounced himself or his crew too tired to finish the job.

But Capt. McMillan, who has a perfect flying record and a reputation for being outspoken, has been campaigning against the bunks from the start. In a recent posting on the pilots' union's private Web site, he wrote of the new setup: "I think it stinks."

He isn't a lone crusader. Delta pilots who fly the planes, backed by their union, hate the new type of bunk, which they have dubbed "the coffin." This replaces "the condo," -- pilot parlance for the more comfortable and spacious precursor. Since the switch, union officials say they have received a litany of complaints from MD-11 pilots that the new bunks impair their on-board rest. No other U.S. passenger carrier uses the newer type.

Delta adopted the new berths as part of a redesign of its international service, scrapping First Class and reconfiguring its long-range jets with an upgraded Business Elite class. Among other things, the new bunks allow for more seats, which Delta says will translate into $40 million in additional revenue from the five altered planes over the next five years.

Whatever the beds' benefits, the Air Line Pilots Association has filed a grievance against Delta over them and has lodged a complaint with the Federal Aviation Administration that they don't meet federal guidelines. (The FAA hasn't yet ruled on the complaint.)

Delta says that the beds don't pose a safety problem and that it has offered to make substantial changes to address pilots' concerns. Meanwhile, Delta is itself investigating the incident on Flight 55. If the airline determines that it was a union stunt rather than a safety decision, Capt. McMillan, who is 59 years old and is scheduled to retire in 11 months, could be dismissed.

A CEO Out of Sorts

Leo F. Mullin, Delta's chief executive officer, is furious and has registered his displeasure with the union chief. After all, 110 passengers on Flight 55 were inconvenienced for several hours, as were passengers on Flight 51, Portland to Tokyo, which was held up to accommodate the Atlanta passengers.

There's no doubt that the FAA considers tired pilots a safety hazard. Pilots aren't allowed to fly more than eight hours without rest. Sleeping quarters are required on all flights of 12 hours or more, and such flights use double crews so two pilots can fly the plane while two rest.

That was the setup on Flight 55 out of Atlanta on April 7. The crew included Capt. McMillan and his first officer, Randy Young, plus a relief crew, Capt. Bob Pfister and his first officer, Steve Petroski. The jet left the gate at 10:47 a.m. All four men worked the cockpit until the plane reached cruising altitude. Around noon, the two relief pilots slipped back to Business Class to eat and then catch some shut-eye.

Before they could turn in, though, the off-duty pilots had to engage in a process that many pilots complain is humiliating and time consuming: assembling their berths. Located in view of the front passenger cabin, just behind the left front door of the cockpit, the double compartment pulls out like a telescope from a space that once housed a lavatory. Once fully extended and locked in place, the bunks block the left front door of the aircraft -- a concern to some pilots.

The upper bunk stretches 6 feet 11 inches, while the bottom is 6 feet 5 inches. Both are roughly 30 inches wide and are fitted with slim leather mattresses and pillows. Before they can insert themselves into their bunks, the pilots must hang 2-inch-thick noise-deadening drapes that attach to the ceiling and wrap around the unit. The whole process takes as long as 20 minutes.

"It's like the Three Stooges putting up a doll house," says Delta Capt. Bud Musser, chairman of the international safety committee for the pilots' union. "It's free entertainment for Business Class passengers."

Certainly, it's a far cry from the days of "the condo," a comparatively expansive two-bed rectangular unit in the center of the Business Class cabin, 5 feet 1 1/2 inches wide, 6 feet 8 inches long and 6 feet 11 inches high. No assembly required. And pilots could stand inside and put on their pajamas before reclining on comfortable bunks. A light, unavailable in the new bunks, told them when the lavatory was occupied.

On Flight 55, the pilots changed into their sleepwear in the cockpit, stepped into the Business Class cabin, and tucked themselves in. Toilets in the lavatory a few feet away flushed. Bells and alarms from the cockpit throbbed through the less-than-soundproof curtains. A buzzer sounded each time a cockpit door opened. The beverage carts clanged and bumped one end of the unit. After about 2 1/2 hours, the pilots returned to the cockpit and told Capt. McMillan they hadn't gotten any sleep.

Language Barriers

Capt. McMillan, who is a little over 6 feet tall and of medium build and who had flown this route before, was skeptical he would do any better when his break came. By this time, the aircraft was over northern Canada and headed over the North Pole. Capt. McMillan asked whether the crew thought they would be at the top of their game in 10 more hours, when they would be dealing with Russian and Japanese air-traffic controllers whose English isn't always perfect.

That's when Capt. McMillan called a Delta dispatcher to say the crew was too tired to complete the trip and was planning to divert. At first, the puzzled dispatcher misunderstood. Speaking in sky code, he asked the captain if he was being hijacked. Capt. McMillan reiterated that the crew was fatigued.

Capt. McMillan and the dispatcher decided that the plane should land in Portland, where Delta could put the passengers on another flight to Tokyo. Over the loudspeakers, Capt. McMillan broke the news to the 110 passengers, who had completed the first of their journey's three scheduled food-and-beverage services. Because of the "configuration" of the airplane that day, he told them, they were unable to continue to Tokyo.

The plane landed in Portland at 3:26 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time, seven hours and 39 minutes after leaving Atlanta. The passengers were directed to Flight 51, held over from its scheduled 1:05 departure. The crew spent the night in a Portland hotel and returned to Atlanta on Thursday.

On Friday, Capt. McMillan and the rest of the crew were summoned to explain the matter to several members of Delta management, including two chief pilots and Capt. Michael J. Quiello, system manager of international operations for Delta.

A 'Premeditated' Act?

After the pilots, who took along a couple of union representatives, told their story, the managers questioned whether Capt. McMillan had "premeditated" his move. That notion could derive from his previous complaints about the beds on the pilots' union's Web site. Of the reverse Narita-to-Atlanta flight, he has written: "This trip snatches the diurnal cycles of the best of us through a knot hole. You are tired anyway, but if you can't sleep on board, then fatigue will paralyze you."

And recounting a colleague's experience on that route, he wrote: "Had I been in charge, had the leg been longer than 12 hours, had weather and possible delays been involved, and had there been a crew member who could not sleep as there obviously was this day, then I would have stopped in Portland or some other place short of the destination."

The union is standing by Capt. McMillan. "He made his decision based on the safety of the flight and the belief that the crew members were not adequately rested," says Karen McGuffey, a union spokeswoman.

Even Delta's Capt. Quiello, who is part of the team scrutinizing the incident, acknowledges that the decision in such situations is ultimately the pilot's. "We trust our captains implicitly," he says, "until we have reason not to."


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steve100
Apr 15, 99, 3:47 pm
What an interesting story - thank you for taking the time to post it.

Personally, I applaud the Captain of that Delta flight for standing up for he believes in. Perhaps it was a bit unfair to the passengers, but perhaps some good will come out of it.

Matt Wald
Apr 15, 99, 4:26 pm
All I can say is: I hope those poor passengers got all their miles for ATL-North Pole-SEA-NRT!!!!!!!!!!


Catman
Apr 15, 99, 7:20 pm
It's is brave the captain had the courage to speak up. Delta should just let him finish out his time and then retire and LEAVE HIM ALONE.

WOuld Delta had preferred the captain to pass out over the Pacific?

One of my first flights on American -- we were flying around for six hours over Pittsburgh and then landed then the crew said "Our contract says we worked passed the number of hours to be considered in healthy and safe order." So the passengers were grounded.

Initially I was furious but after learning of what could happen maybe I should have been thankful.

I notice also on some of teh U-A pacific flights the crew sleeps in a section between business and coach with big signs saying "Crew resting, be quiet or talk low." Of course most passengers ignore it.

JayJ
Apr 16, 99, 2:12 am
This incident has messed up Delta's asian flight schedule. Today I flew Delta MCO/ATL/PDX/SEA. The ATL/PDX flt was suppose to be a MD-11 with the new Business Elite seats. The gate agent in MCO confirmed this when I checked in. Upon arrive in ATL, my flt to PDX was on a old L1011. It seems they have decided to use the L1011 from ATL to PDX. If you are flying form ATL to ***, your one-stop flt has turned into a plane change in PDX. Just another reason to fly less on Delta.

Hong Kong Flyer
Apr 16, 99, 2:36 am
I spend enough time in the air that I consider safety to be a significant concern. However, this sounds like yet another example of the coddled pilots whining in a fashion that would make even the most spoiled child blush. These guys make $150,000+ per year and only work 6 days a month. You would think they could stay awake for 10 hours per day.



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Cheers,
HKF

Craig6z
Apr 16, 99, 7:13 am
Amen, HKF.

jamiel
Apr 16, 99, 6:59 pm
I'm not so sure I agree, HKF--I have this image of a pop-top camper that the pilot has to rig up (I'll grant that I've never seen this apparatus) that I'm not sure would be either comfortable or private.

Celestar340
Apr 18, 99, 10:14 am
It's times like this when I wonder if unions are controlling the airlines....look what happened last summer to Air Canada, Northwest and then American. Not to mention, Air France (always), Alitalia and even dare I say, BA?

In Asia, we have our share of problems too. Cathay Pacific has one of the strongest unions in the Asia-Pacific region and so does Philippine Airlines (but then look at the state of its management). True, unions may be protecting their workers but in the end the fare paying passenger suffers.

Reminds of an incident about maybe 10 years or so ago when some pilots threatened a strike over at Singapore Airlines. The talk of strike loomed so much over the horizon that the then Prime Minister of Singapore stepped in and threatened to disband the entire company and then rehire new pilots altogether. Something he said which could be done overnight. No strike. No problems. No more complaints.

jamiel
Apr 18, 99, 10:30 am
3% unemployment is making everyone rambunctious!

Hong Kong Flyer
Apr 18, 99, 8:31 pm
"True, unions may be protecting their workers but in the end the fare paying passenger suffers."

I am sure the workers are very grateful. Let's ask the employees of Pan Am, Eastern, PAL, Braniff, etc., etc.

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Cheers,
HKF

mmgm
Apr 19, 99, 10:58 pm
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have trouble sleeping on a plane.
After a 12 hour flight without sleep, I don't feel safe driving a car, let alone trying to land a plane if problems developed.

Hong Kong Flyer
Apr 19, 99, 11:33 pm
I realize that many people have difficulty sleeping on planes, but most people are able to sleep in a business class seat. Some hardy souls can even sleep in coach! If a long haul pilot is the sort of person who cannot, by nature, take a nap in a flat 6'11" bunk it may be time for him to seek alternative employment.

In any event, being awake for 12 hours should not constitute sleep deprivation for anyone out of infancy.

My interpretation of this article is that the pilots do not like the "indignity" of having to make their own beds.

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Cheers,
HKF

[This message has been edited by Hong Kong Flyer (edited 04-19-99).]

philforest
Apr 20, 99, 10:26 am
HongKongFlyer: You're willing to entrust your life to this guy who says he's not capable of flying?

Hammertoad
Apr 20, 99, 10:45 am
Gee, I wonder how the pilots of the B-2's do it. 15 hours over, drop your bombs, 15 hours back. Nothing so nice as a pop-up-camper nor even a pup tent to ease themselves into sleep. (Oh yeah, don't forget the mid-air refuelings that are also required).

Cheers,

'toad

Catman
Apr 20, 99, 11:47 am
For the B-two bomber pilots: they earn triple sleeping miles and QUADRUPLE SNORING POINTS which they cash in when they land. I guess all they do is simply "Crash" and head off to dream land when they're done.

But I guess they work 30 hours in the air 8 hours sawing wood!

Hong Kong Flyer
Apr 20, 99, 11:54 am
Philforest:

I am not trying to be combative (ha ha). My point was that someone who cannot stay awake for 12 hours should not be a long haul pilot. There is no reason that person could fly not the SFO-LAX route.

[This message has been edited by Hong Kong Flyer (edited 04-20-99).]

Hammertoad
Apr 20, 99, 12:36 pm
Not exactly, Cat. Methinks they get the added bonus of sitting through a thorough de-briefing, then the mandatory round o' drinks at the O club to celebrate a (hopefully) successufl mission!

What gets me is that most of those Delta pilots (indeed, most commerical pilots) learned to fly in the military and were expected and required to be able to handle those long missions. Those that couldn't washed out and now drive Greyhounds for a living. Bottom line is these guys are spoiled and if that Delta pilot is a reservist he better hope he doesn't get called up to reinforce the troops.

Just my opinion.

Cheers,

'toad

philforest
Apr 20, 99, 3:45 pm
No, 'toad, HE shouldn't hope he doesn't get called up. WE should hope he doesn't get called up. My earlier post was directed at the thought that we shouldn't want to entrust our lives to someone who isn't confident he can protect them. If he really thought he wasn't able to fly, he was right in setting it down. And Delta would be right in never letting him take it up again.

Comicwoman
Apr 20, 99, 4:02 pm
Not having all the facts never stopped me from adding my two pence (I like to keep FT international).

Many if not most military pilots are in their 20s or early 30s. For those of us past that age, we know that an individual has more energy at that age. And if a B-2 pilot falls asleep over the ocean, there are not 300 behind him. The military is willing to take different risks than civilians.

The airlines let pilots bid for flights based on their seniority. Perhaps the most senior pilots should not be doing the trans-ocean flying.

I for one am glad to be a civilian. The idea of flying (as a passenger) on a canvas seat hoping the ground crew chained that tank into place properly for twenty hours and NOT getting airmiles would be too much for me to handle.

countryboy
Apr 20, 99, 7:45 pm
Perhaps I am more gullible than most, but
with all the "souls" riding in one of those
fragile airborne carriages, I am inclined to give the pilot the benefit of the doubt - he acted on an issue he felt was verrrrrrrrrry
important. A case of poor judgment? I do not know, but sometimes it takes something like that to shake things up. Will he suffer unplesant consequences, my guess is ..yes.

Will his act bring about an improved situation for the pilots? I do hope so.

You know, if the airlines really cared about
safety, they would not allow the crowding
of more passengers into too small seats and aisles..and the gosh awful loading of the overhead bins with all kinds of metal
carts. So which passenger is able to draw
attention to the conditions on the planes?

He/she would be locked up for a disturbance
which should not even be needed.

girlflies
Apr 20, 99, 10:08 pm
Only 3 reasons the plane is on the ground.

1. Somethin wrong with the plane.
2. Somethin wrong with the weather.
3. Somethin wrong with the pilot.

In any of those events, I'd rather be sittin on the ground wishin I was in the air, than sittin in the air, whishin I was on the ground.

kyklin
Apr 21, 99, 10:12 am
Comicwoman: I would want the senior pilots to do the trans-oceanic (at at least trans- Pacific) flying. There was another WSJ article posted some weeks ago about an UA near crash (oxymoronic since a plane either crashes or does not crash? Need help with English here, Mr. Merry!) because most pilots lack the experiences in flying 747s, the plane most used for trans-Pacific routes.

I think in this case, the pilot is making more of a statement rather than actually physically tired. Four people flying a route that is on auto-pilot most of the time does not seem too taxing, IMHO.

philforest
Apr 21, 99, 10:22 am
Girlflies:
I'm with you!!!!!

philforest
Apr 21, 99, 10:26 am
OMNI:
The Pilot: "We've reached our cruising altitude now, and I'm turning off the seat belt sign. I'm switching to autopilot, too, so I can come back there and visit with all of you for the rest of the flight."

Beckles
Apr 21, 99, 10:33 am
kyklin ~ Just to clear that up, the problem UA is having is not necessarily because their pilots are "inexperienced" (they're not a bunch of 25 year old pilots), but with the 747's on long international routes with two crews, the each pilot would only get to take off and land once or twice every few months, meaning that they just weren't doing it enough to maintain proficiency. UA is going to be doing more simulator training to make up for this shortcoming.

kyklin
Apr 21, 99, 10:52 am
In a way, I agree with you, Beckles. I do not think they are "25 year olds" either since the trans-Pacific is one of the cushier routes assigned to higher ranking pilots.

However, don't you think "not doing enough to maintain proficiency" is arguably the same as "inexperienced"? [From Webster's: Inexperience: lacking practical experience or training.]

[This message has been edited by kyklin (edited 04-21-99).]

Beckles
Apr 21, 99, 10:56 am
kyklin ~ I think UA 747's pilots are still the most experienced they've got overall, but the problem is recent experience. Overall they have lots of practical experience and training, but once they move to 747's in international service they just don't accrue the experience very quickly anymore!

TexasFlyer
Apr 21, 99, 11:46 pm
On a recent LAX-SYD flight on Air New Zealand (before the UA story broke), as we were beginning the landing, the purser commented that this would be a "hands on" rather than an instrument landing, because the pilot needed to do a hands-on to keep his ratings. So I guess not only is there the fact that they don't fly that often, but also that even when they do fly, the landings can be instrument. And the most experienced pilots nearing retirement are the ones who get the 747s. Historically, pay was based on the weight of the plane, because the bigger planes 50 years ago were more difficult to fly, so today the 747s get more $$$ than the 737s, even tho the big planes are easier to fly than some of the smaller ones. In the past few years, United has begun paying the 767 pilots the same as the 747s rather than having to keep training 767 pilots to take over the 747 for a year or two prior to retirement. And if you listen to the pilots, altho the money is great for the 747s, they also talk about the exhaustion. Even tho the flight may be boring and on autopilot, their mental sharpness is gone after 12-14 hours in the air and it's hard to perk up and be bright for the landing. i don't think many of us can claim to come off those flights razor sharp! And I've rarely seen ANZ crew come out of the cockpit area to "visit", so the putting it on autopilot to go visit is not really correct.

TexasFlyer
May 7, 99, 9:45 pm
May 7, 1999


Delta Upholds Pilot Sleep Decision


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Filed at 2:38 p.m. EDT

By The Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines pilots may soon be resting easier on
long flights.

The carrier said Friday it has upheld one pilot's decision to cut short a
14-hour flight to Japan because his relief pilots had trouble sleeping in
cramped quarters they dubbed ``the coffin.'' The airline also is working
on a design for a larger bunk area.

The issue became public after Capt. Roscoe McMillan landed his
MD-11 in Portland, Ore., on April 7 rather than continue on from
Atlanta to Tokyo. The 110 passengers were transferred to another flight.

Delta spokesman Bill Berry said the carrier interviewed McMillan and
other crew members as part of a standard investigation into any disrupted
flight.

``The end result is that we support the captain. He said he took the
action because he didn't think his relief pilots would be as sharp as they
should be,'' Berry said. ``He said it was based on safety concerns, and
safety comes first.''

The 59-year-old McMillan, who has more than 30 years experience with
Delta, faced a reprimand or even dismissal if the carrier's management
had decided he diverted the plane as a protest. He said he landed the
plane because the two relief crew members said they didn't get sufficient
sleep.

The pilot, due to retire in less than a year, didn't immediately return a
phone call Friday.

Berry said McMillan has continued his normal flying schedule since the
landing, and there have been no other problems on the Tokyo flight,
Delta's longest nonstop service.

Meanwhile, Delta managers have met with pilots about the sleeping
compartment and engineers have submitted drawings to manufacturers
for a larger chamber, Berry said.

The Air Line Pilots Association, representing Delta's 9,000 pilots, filed a
grievance about the sleep module. A taped phone message to its
members Friday said the grievance is still pending, but ``management has
agreed to consider alternative facilities,'' which the union will review.

The union says the snug bunk-bed units have too little room, lack privacy
and allow too much outside noise to filter in. They are located between
the cockpit and the business-class section and are blocked off by a
2-inch-thick curtain.

Delta had shrunk the MD-11 sleeping space five months ago to make
more room for higher-paying business-classpassengers. The new
modules replaced one the pilots called ``the condo'' because it was
spacious, quiet and private.

Federal regulations require airlines to provide on-board sleeping quarters
for pilots on flights of 12 hours or more. A crew of four alternates at the
controls.

Jim Hall, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, called a
unionsafety official recently to ask about the situation and dispatched an
NTSB member to Atlanta on Wednesday.

NTSB spokesman Ted Lopatkiewicz said the board hasn't taken a
position on the module but wanted to gather information on whether it
contributed to pilot fatigue.

``We have an interest in fatigue in all modes of transportation,'' he said
Friday.



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