Midwest Airlines Midwest Miles (Pre-Alignment) - Delta/Midwest partnership ends June 7, 2010

According to Delta's website, the partnership with Midwest will terminate on June 7, 2010. After that date, you will no longer be able to earn SkyMiles on Midwest operated flights or Midwest Miles on Delta operated flights.

There is currently no word on what, if anything, will happen to the codeshare agreement (that was seperate from the expanded frequent flier alliance).

This move surprises me a great deal. For starters, Bryan Bedford has mentioned his desire to join a larger airline alliance, specifically SkyTeam, in some capacity. With the frequent flier agreement out the window, I seriously doubt this will happen (at least with SkyTeam). I would also think that Delta would like to maintain pressure on a key rival in what was a very strong market for Northwest.

Does this mean that a larger relationship with AirTran may materialize? Bedford has said that Republic would need to chose between Delta and AirTran in 2010.

This whole Midwest/Frontier/Republic/Delta/AirTran story line gets stranger and stranger every day. Whatever happens, no one can say this has been an uneventful journey.

This is bad - way bad. Another sign that the end is near for YX. :td::td:

The big question remains on what will happen to the codeshare.

Blue - good catch on this. ^

The big question remains on what will happen to the codeshare.

Blue - good catch on this. ^

+1

Remember when YX was FF partners with AA, in between the two periods with NW?

Something major is going to happen and I heard April 13th is going to be a big day for Republic. Of course, this is rumor and I have no direct source to back it up. AirTran must want some sort of relationship with Republic....Otherwise they would have left the Frontier FF agreement a long time ago.

Dang...that is a blow. I wonder if they could not come to an agreement, or if other partnerships are looming, or if Delta flat out decided no, or what. I'm sure Blue is hoping for a UA link?? :-)

Although the link with Frontier replaces most of Delta's penetration west, there are still quite a few destinations east and south which Delta brought to the table.

Dang...that is a blow. I wonder if they could not come to an agreement, or if other partnerships are looming, or if Delta flat out decided no, or what. I'm sure Blue is hoping for a UA link?? :-)

Although the link with Frontier replaces most of Delta's penetration west, there are still quite a few destinations east and south which Delta brought to the table.

Needless to say, what about international routes?

Needless to say, what about international routes?

Absolutely. I was thinking more about earning miles versus spending them (although DL international could earn you YX miles, too) and about being able to earn miles when domestic travel took you places that were not on the YX/F9 map. But having a partner with broader award possibilities is not insignificant.

Damn! It will mean less YX travel for me. In fact, it will mean very little YX travel for me.

Does this mean that KLM is gone, too?

Perhaps MostlyAir can advise.

I'm sure Blue is hoping for a UA link?? :-)



Would that really be so bad :D

Perhaps Lufthansa will swoop in and take an ownership stake in Republic (a la JetBlue), thus opening the door for the branded operations to become part of Star Alliance. Lufthansa seems to be on an empire building mission these days.

One can dream, right???

As flyYX mentioned, something is up. I wonder just how big April 13th will be. Besides the new name, will there be some kind of blockbuster announcement?

Would that really be so bad :D
One can dream, right???


I would be a second one very happy with that. But when you think of it who is left but UA and the Star Alliance? I highly doubt that YX would head back to AA and One World.

Needless to say in this day and age, it would be very hard for Republic to try and go it alone without some sort of a tie up that gave YX fliers international routes -either to earn or redeem miles. Granted, that has not been talked about but it has some serious implications.

Needless to say in this day and age, it would be very hard for Republic to try and go it alone without some sort of a tie up that gave YX fliers international routes -either to earn or redeem miles. Granted, that has not been talked about but it has some serious implications.

The discounters...Southwest, AirTran, JetBlue, Spirit...have very limited or no large international partners. However this is something which Midwest had as an advantage over them.

Separate from the large partnerships with NW/DL and AA, Midwest has over the years had FF ties with airlines like SAS, Virgin Atlantic, Swissair, Air Jamaica and a few others. This sort of thing could happen without entering a big-airline program or entering one of the alliances. But having a few assorted foreign carrier tie-ins is nowhere near as good as reciprocity with a large US domesitc+international carrier.

This better put to bed the misinformed folks who claim that Midwest "will only end up as a feeder for Delta"...yadda yadda.

Anyway, here's my off the wall prediction: Midwest becomes a short-haul feeder for AirTran in Milwaukee, the A319s go back to flying the Frontier routes, FL handles all the long-haul MKE flying, and F9/FL keep and expand their FF partnership to a full code-share.

Having feed from YX, combined with the FL MKE network, would create quite the fortress and allow both carriers more pricing power in MKE.

There are probably a thousand holes in my scenario, but I figured I'd throw it out there in light of the Delta partnership cancellation.

Bryan Bedford certainly wouldn't be as opposed to this as Tim Hoeksema would.

Anyway, here's my off the wall prediction: Midwest becomes a short-haul feeder for AirTran in Milwaukee, the A319s go back to flying the Frontier routes, FL handles all the long-haul MKE flying, and F9/FL keep and expand their FF partnership to a full code-share.

How does your scenario fit with the just announced purchase of the "C" series from Bombardier? If this is the scenario, then why would Midwest be reintroducing routes like SAN, SFO and SEA from MKE? In your scenario do you see an expansion in DEN by F9, for instance DEN to BOS?

How does your scenario fit with the just announced purchase of the "C" series from Bombardier? If this is the scenario, then why would Midwest be reintroducing routes like SAN, SFO and SEA from MKE? In your scenario do you see an expansion in DEN by F9, for instance DEN to BOS?

Yes, there are holes in my scenario. It's possible that the C-series could be used for long-haul DEN flying to eventually replace the Airbus aircraft, which could be sold or otherwise retired. The C-series can carry comparable loads with a lot less fuel burn.

Certainly both YX and FL are trying to determine ways to stop the bleeding and more dominate the MKE market. Midwest could remain to feed FL in MKE and F9 in DEN, and codeshare between the three carriers.

Again, these are all far-out guesses in my own head. I could be way off base. But stranger things have happened. Just look at how YX and F9 got to where they are today!

Anyway, here's my off the wall prediction

Allow me to take your prediction a lot further.

Picture this....

On April 13th, executives and employees from Republic along with assorted members of the media and various dignitaries gather at the Midwest Airlines Hangar in Milwaukee for the official unveiling of the new brand.

There is noticeable excitement in the room as everyone mingles, enjoys all of the free food/alcohol, and reminisces about the glory days of both Midwest and Frontier.

Finally, the long anticipated moment arrives. The doors to the hangar slowly open and an aircraft begins to appear. There is noticeable gasping from the members of the audience as the plane comes into full view. Something is very, very wrong.

The Airbus A320 is painted in the AirTran livery but has a badger on the tail. Bryan Bedford is waving to the stunned crowd from one side of the cockpit windows; Bob Forano is doing the same from the other.

Both executives quickly emerge from the plane and rush to the podium. As the crowd goes silent, Bedford announces that AirTran has acquired Republic and will fold the branded operations under the AirTran banner. All aircraft will have animals on the tails. Chocolate chip cookies will be served on all flights.

The animals and cookies have been saved. AirTran finally gets its northern hub in MKE virtually uncontested. New headaches emerge for United and Southwest in Denver. Delta doesn't know what to do at this point.

Perhaps MostlyAir can advise.

What Mostly Air knows and what Mostly Air is willing to talk about are two different things.

Yes, there are holes in my scenario. It's possible that the C-series could be used for long-haul DEN flying to eventually replace the Airbus aircraft, which could be sold or otherwise retired. The C-series can carry comparable loads with a lot less fuel burn.

Certainly both YX and FL are trying to determine ways to stop the bleeding and more dominate the MKE market. Midwest could remain to feed FL in MKE and F9 in DEN, and codeshare between the three carriers.

Again, these are all far-out guesses in my own head. I could be way off base. But stranger things have happened. Just look at how YX and F9 got to where they are today!

It would not suprise me one bit that FL decides the C-series is the replace aircraft for their current fleet of B717's.

Well, Well, Well - it's great to be right

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/midwest-airlines-midwest-miles/1047380-republic-present-raymond-james-airline-conference.html

My Post #27 1 1/2 months ago -

Interesting article flyYX, thanks for posting. It does include some intriguing discussion about the future of the code shares Delta/Midwest, Frontier/Air Tran.

It never occured to me that one possibility would be for Republic to dump the Delta codeshare in favor of the Air Tran code share.

Now an expanded Air Tran/Frontier/Midwest/Republic codeshare, that could be a powerful combination. Peachtree avenue would p** its pants.

One can spout all the most meaningless facts and statistics one wants about Midwest, but in the end we see old Hazelrah was right :D

Allow me to take your prediction a lot further.

Picture this....

On April 13th, executives and employees from Republic along with assorted members of the media and various dignitaries gather at the Midwest Airlines Hangar in Milwaukee for the official unveiling of the new brand.

There is noticeable excitement in the room as everyone mingles, enjoys all of the free food/alcohol, and reminisces about the glory days of both Midwest and Frontier.

Finally, the long anticipated moment arrives. The doors to the hangar slowly open and an aircraft begins to appear. There is noticeable gasping from the members of the audience as the plane comes into full view. Something is very, very wrong.

The Airbus A320 is painted in the AirTran livery but has a badger on the tail. Bryan Bedford is waving to the stunned crowd from one side of the cockpit windows; Bob Forano is doing the same from the other.

Both executives quickly emerge from the plane and rush to the podium. As the crowd goes silent, Bedford announces that AirTran has acquired Republic and will fold the branded operations under the AirTran banner. All aircraft will have animals on the tails. Chocolate chip cookies will be served on all flights.

The animals and cookies have been saved. AirTran finally gets its northern hub in MKE virtually uncontested. New headaches emerge for United and Southwest in Denver. Delta doesn't know what to do at this point.

I have to admit, I can see this happening... I didn't want to put my neck on the line but Republic having something like a 49% ownership in branded flying with Airtan at 51% probably would make sense.

Well, Well, Well - it's great to be right



With all due respect, none of us know if Republic will enter into a codeshare agreement with AirTran.

Bryan Bedford could have something entirely different up his sleeve. He has talked extensively about joining an alliance.

An established alliance brings some enormous benefits that AirTran simply can't deliver (the ability to earn/redeem miles on partner carriers, lounge access, access to a global route network, etc.).

Republic could always have a codeshare with AirTran and join an alliance as a regional member.

I guess we'll find out what the plan is in the coming weeks.

I have a need for a surgical screenings in SDF and called DL to burn some miles. Nothing in the YX inventory was showing online and the same was true for their computers. I was told there was no relationship with YX. After ten minutes on hold, I'm going to SDF in a week on YX with DL miles. Hmmmmm.

Ouch! That will really eliminate my partner and me as Midwest passengers. We are MSN-based DL GM, and decide for each trip between DL out of MSN or YX/YX* out of MKE. We never consider the other carriers. Without a DL FF agreement, forget it. I hope BB knows what he's doing, b/c there is a lot of YX/DL cross-loyalty in Wisconsin, esp among business travelers. Then again, maybe he's made the decision to go after the leisure travelers.

Either way, it won't matter to me much anymore how Midwest (or whatever brand it is) does.

We have a single MSN-LGA nonstop on DL*. Could we possibly see some DL* flights to the East Coast out of MKE in the future, esp as the DL LGA hub beefs up?

What if this is just the sign that Midwest Miles program will be ending around June when Frontier and Midwest combine frequent flyer programs? We know that this is going to happen and it is entirely probable that they may not name the combined program Midwest Miles or Early Returns. Delta may have just jumped the gun in "ending" the partnership with "Midwest Miles" and they will begin a partnership with the new program.

I've heard a rumor that the cookies and direct tv are out, but I find that hard to believe. There is so much coming out of the rumor mill we are better off just waiting until April 13

I have to admit, I can see this happening... I didn't want to put my neck on the line but Republic having something like a 49% ownership in branded flying with Airtan at 51% probably would make sense.

I doubt the anticipated "announcement" has anything to do with increased customer service or rebranding (he's had almost two years to develop a brand but can't commit-something else is going on). It's all about money. Selling the YX operation to FL relieves BB of integrating YX crews (bump and flush costs) and gives FL what they wanted all along... YX's MKE infrastructure. A subsequent partnership, FL in the east, F9 in the west, makes sense.

I don't think BB really ever anticipated acquiring both YX and F9. He acted quickly without thinking through the tertiary consequences. Dumping one brand allows BB to focus on developing the other. YX integration would begin again with FL negotiations, but I anticipate being much smoother since FL is hiring and merged YX crews (mostly captains) are already typed in FL's primary aircraft.

BB is in over his head. Dumping YX is the easy way out, allowing him to discard a brand he had plans for, but ruined. This scenario also allows FL to truly become MKE's new hometown airline, YX crews and all...

Picture this....

On April 13th, executives and employees from Republic along with assorted members of the media and various dignitaries gather at the Midwest Airlines Hangar in Milwaukee for the official unveiling of the new brand.

There is noticeable excitement in the room as everyone mingles, enjoys all of the free food/alcohol, and reminisces about the glory days of both Midwest and Frontier.

Finally, the long anticipated moment arrives. The doors to the hangar slowly open and an aircraft begins to appear. There is noticeable gasping from the members of the audience as the plane comes into full view. Something is very, very wrong.

The Airbus A320 is painted in the AirTran livery but has a badger on the tail. Bryan Bedford is waving to the stunned crowd from one side of the cockpit windows; Bob Forano is doing the same from the other.

Both executives quickly emerge from the plane and rush to the podium. As the crowd goes silent, Bedford announces that AirTran has acquired Republic and will fold the branded operations under the AirTran banner. All aircraft will have animals on the tails. Chocolate chip cookies will be served on all flights.

The animals and cookies have been saved. AirTran finally gets its northern hub in MKE virtually uncontested. New headaches emerge for United and Southwest in Denver. Delta doesn't know what to do at this point.

Blue, is any of your scenario based on information you have heard from employees of any of the concerned parties, or merely your own speculation? We know that you have a couple of pipelines.

No matter what happens, the FL annual shareholders' meeting, which, by the way, will be held in May in Milwaukee, should be very interesting.

I believe that the FF agreement between YX and DL allows for award travel on the partner carrier booked by the June 2010 cut-off date, for travel completed within one year of the booking date.

Blue, is any of your scenario based on information you have heard from employees of any of the concerned parties, or merely your own speculation? We know that you have a couple of pipelines.

No matter what happens, the FL annual shareholders' meeting, which, by the way, will be held in May in Milwaukee, should be very interesting..

The scenario I made up about AirTran buying Republic was meant to be a joke and nothing more. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I have been told (which has also been confirmed by Republic in the media) that the new brand will be announced on April 13th. Apparently this includes the introduction of a single name.

As for AirTran's annual meeting, I'm sure they'll try and generate some news but I wouldn't expect fireworks. Annual meetings are generally very boring affairs.

The scenario I made up about AirTran buying Republic was meant to be a joke and nothing more. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

I have been told (which has also been confirmed by Republic in the media) that the new brand will be announced on April 13th. Apparently this includes the introduction of a single name.

As for AirTran's annual meeting, I'm sure they'll try and generate some news but I wouldn't expect fireworks. Annual meetings are generally very boring affairs.

I did realize that there was a lot of tongue-in-cheek, but, when reading posts by others, maybe a bit of foretelling, as well. Perhaps the FF partnership with FL will be expanded.

The dissolution of the partnership with DL is not proving to be very popular, at least until information about a new partnership (hopefully,there is one in the works) is released, maybe as part of the April announcement.

With the new maintenance base and reservation center at MKE, I don't think that this is a short-term commitment for Republic.

What if this is just the sign that Midwest Miles program will be ending around June when Frontier and Midwest combine frequent flyer programs? We know that this is going to happen and it is entirely probable that they may not name the combined program Midwest Miles or Early Returns. Delta may have just jumped the gun in "ending" the partnership with "Midwest Miles" and they will begin a partnership with the new program.

All signs indicate the Delta partnership is dead.

According to some employees, Bedford stated at a recent town hall meeting that Delta was willing to expand the codeshare and frequent flier agreement as long as the Frontier route structure was excluded. Bedford rightly told Delta that they had to accept all or nothing. Apparently, Delta walked.

As further evidence that there will be no expanded partnership, Delta has excluded employee travel perks on both Midwest and Frontier.

I don't see Frontier as a threat, but Delta seems to feel differently. There has been a lot of bad blood between the two airlines over the years and Delta continues to hold a grudge. It's no easy to forgive and forget in the airline business.

There are other options available to Republic and I wonder what, if anything, they will unveil.

BB is in over his head. Dumping YX is the easy way out, allowing him to discard a brand he had plans for, but ruined. This scenario also allows FL to truly become MKE's new hometown airline, YX crews and all...

Midwest's MKE operation does not have anything Airtran wants it doens't already have. It has grown organically and has plenty of gates to increase their flights out of MKE. If Midwest still had 717's I could see this thought having some tread but since they don't there really isn't anything they could take from Midwest at this point. What aircraft are the YX crews supposed to fly? I thought they were not acquiring any aircraft until next year.

All signs indicate the Delta partnership is dead.

According to some employees, Bedford stated at a recent town hall meeting that Delta was willing to expand the codeshare and frequent flier agreement as long as the Frontier route structure was excluded. Bedford rightly told Delta that they had to accept all or nothing. Apparently, Delta walked.

As further evidence that there will be no expanded partnership, Delta has excluded employee travel perks on both Midwest and Frontier.

I don't see Frontier as a threat, but Delta seems to feel differently. There has been a lot of bad blood between the two airlines over the years and Delta continues to hold a grudge. It's no easy to forgive and forget in the airline business.

There are other options available to Republic and I wonder what, if anything, they will unveil.

If Frontier agrees to not add any flights out of SLC or other major markets of Delta's I don't see a problem.

Technically there is no more Midwest employees, thus the travel benefits for Midwest employees ended on Jan 1. They are all Frontier or Republic depending on their position. Until Frontier and Delta, along with other airlines, have an agreement for travel perks, employees who still work in MKE for Midwest (or other cities) will not be able to take advantage of travel perks for Delta or other carriers.

All signs indicate the Delta partnership is dead.


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If this pans out - and signs are this direction - I'll definitely miss YX. I grant its just a shell of its former self but your BCC is one of the best clubs in the business.

If BB doesn't have a equal replacement FF program alliance for his new airline this is going to be his BIGGEST mistake.

BB may not be the smartest cookie in the jar.

Midwest's MKE operation does not have anything Airtran wants it doens't already have. It has grown organically and has plenty of gates to increase their flights out of MKE.



Oh, yeah? Is this why on Thursday I saw all their gates occupied and three additional AirTran 737s parked out on the ramp waiting for gates to open up?

I actually think they need additional gates at MKE...maybe not for regular service, but perhaps during irrops.

Oh, yeah? Is this why on Thursday I saw all their gates occupied and three additional AirTran 737s parked out on the ramp waiting for gates to open up?

I actually think they need additional gates at MKE...maybe not for regular service, but perhaps during irrops.

How many gates are open in concourse E? Have MKE officials move US Airways to E or provide ground boarding for one or so of the Skywest flights (not sure if this is possible, just a thought). With persuasion I'm sure Airtran could be able to increase their gates. They could have purchased gates in concourse D when Midwest cut back their flights and Midwest was not paying MKE for their gates.

My view is that there is only a fraction of the Midwest they wanted to aquire and what is left may not be worth the hassle. They've lasted this long and if the Midwest name is going away, they may want to see what happens with that.

All signs indicate the Delta partnership is dead.

According to some employees, Bedford stated at a recent town hall meeting that Delta was willing to expand the codeshare and frequent flier agreement as long as the Frontier route structure was excluded. Bedford rightly told Delta that they had to accept all or nothing. Apparently, Delta walked..

Logically, one would have to assume that the status quo relationship was not working out for either Republic or Delta or not working out for both.

Here's my two cents: Republic wanted to expand the codeshare relationship, and Delta said no.

Getting the NW pilots and the Delta pilots integrated was no small achievement. Its one of the things Delta management did right in the merger.

Why risk the relative labor peace that Delta has with its pilots for an expanded relationship with Republic, not much in it for Delta and a lot of downside?

How many gates are open in concourse E? Have MKE officials move US Airways to E or provide ground boarding for one or so of the Skywest flights (not sure if this is possible, just a thought). With persuasion I'm sure Airtran could be able to increase their gates. They could have purchased gates in concourse D when Midwest cut back their flights and Midwest was not paying MKE for their gates.

My view is that there is only a fraction of the Midwest they wanted to aquire and what is left may not be worth the hassle. They've lasted this long and if the Midwest name is going away, they may want to see what happens with that.

Part of Midwest's former Skyway/Midwest Connect space was reallocated to Southwest. Frontier was also moved from Concourse C to Concourse D, and Delta went from C to E, to consolidate with the NW gates.

It might be nice to put CO and UA together, in light of their code share. If that happens, that would free up two more gates on C. Perhaps DL could give up a gate or two on E for that purpose. After all, does NW/DL really need six gates? Especially since they are only serving their hubs from MKE?

Right now, FL has 8 (or 9) gates on C, depending on whether you count C17, which they sometimes use for parking. But C18/C19 would give them the entire hammerhead of C and a total of 11 gates, which could help immensely during bad operational days.

Logically, one would have to assume that the status quo relationship was not working out for either Republic or Delta or not working out for both.

Here's my two cents: Republic wanted to expand the codeshare relationship, and Delta said no.

Getting the NW pilots and the Delta pilots integrated was no small achievement. Its one of the things Delta management did right in the merger.

Why risk the relative labor peace that Delta has with its pilots for an expanded relationship with Republic, not much in it for Delta and a lot of downside?

+1

After all, does NW/DL really need six gates? Especially since they are only serving their hubs from MKE?

From what I see, yes. All seem busy at peak times.

From what I see, yes. All seem busy at peak times.

Unless I am mistaken, DL only serves the following daily nonstop markets from MKE:

MSP, ATL, CVG, MEM, DTW

Unless they're operating hourly flights to any of these cities (which we know they're not), one would think they'd be able to get the job done with 4, maybe 5 gates max. Their utilization needs to be improved.

It might be nice for UA and AC to come over to Concourse E to be with CO. I'd think an extra gate or two (from DL) for CO would make this move possible.

Unless I am mistaken, DL only serves the following daily nonstop markets from MKE:

MSP, ATL, CVG, MEM, DTW

Unless they're operating hourly flights to any of these cities (which we know they're not), one would think they'd be able to get the job done with 4, maybe 5 gates max. Their utilization needs to be improved.

It might be nice for UA and AC to come over to Concourse E to be with CO. I'd think an extra gate or two (from DL) for CO would make this move possible.

Since they are all trying to hit the hub banks in those respective markets, the utilization is what it is. Jambed at peak times. Empty later. Flying at off peak times is a non-starter I am sure.

UA can come ahead, anyway, since gates 60 and 61 are mostly vacant.

The take on the issue from The Cranky Flier's Brett Snyder, posted on BNET:

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/10005452/republics-midwest-airlines-brand-cuts-ties-with-delta/

The take on the issue from The Cranky Flier's Brett Snyder, posted on BNET:

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/10005452/republics-midwest-airlines-brand-cuts-ties-with-delta/

I read through the article and one important item needs to be resolved (maybe it has but I might have missed it), the relationship terminates in June - is that for just earning or earning AND redeeming miles on Delta?

Email currently going out to MM Members:


Dear Midwest Miles Member:

We're writing to let you know of an upcoming change to the Midwest Miles program.

As a result of the continuing integration of the Midwest and Frontier brands, Delta Air Lines has decided to terminate its marketing relationship – including codeshare and frequent flyer partnerships – with Midwest. While the benefits of the codeshare were limited for our customers, we understand you may have some questions about the impact this change will have on the Midwest Miles program.

What this means to Midwest Miles members:
> You will no longer be able to earn mileage credit on Delta flights beginning June 7, 2010.
> You will no longer be able to redeem mileage for award travel on Delta beginning June 7, 2010. You can redeem Midwest Miles for award travel on Delta through 6 p.m., Central Time, June 6. Award tickets will be valid for one year from the date of issuance.

Please be assured that Midwest is committed to delivering the most value to our customers. We are working diligently to explore replacement options for the Delta partnership. As we continue to harmonize the Midwest and Frontier brands, you can look forward to improvements in both the scope and ease of use of our loyalty program. Additionally, Midwest and Frontier are continuing to add destinations and markets. Our combined network now offers service to more than 70 cities throughout the Americas.

Thank you for consistently choosing Midwest Airlines for your travels. We look forward to welcoming you aboard again soon. As always, we'll make every effort to provide you with "The best care in the air" every time you fly with us.

Sincerely,

Jim Reichart
Vice President of Sales, Distribution and Loyalty Programs


I hope this will help to clear up any confusion.

Email currently going out to MM Members:

As a result of the continuing integration of the Midwest and Frontier brands, Delta Air Lines has decided to terminate its marketing relationship – including codeshare and frequent flyer partnerships – with Midwest. While the benefits of the codeshare were limited for our customers, we understand you may have some questions about the impact this change will have on the Midwest Miles program.



How does the FF agreement with KLM stand?

How does the FF agreement with KLM stand?

What FF agreement did YX have with KLM? They don't have one right now.

How does the FF agreement with KLM stand?

I believe the agreement with KLM is separate from Delta/NW.

What FF agreement did YX have with KLM? They don't have one right now.

http://www.midwestairlines.com/MidwestMiles/UseMiles/RedeemMilesNorthwest.aspx?id=649

I apologize, I stand corrected. I feel like I've been through YX's site dozens of times and I never noticed that. Thanks for the link MostlyAir.

Also, it's nice having someone from within the airline posting on Flyertalk and A.net. It stops the spread of incorrect information.

I apologize, I stand corrected. I feel like I've been through YX's site dozens of times and I never noticed that. Thanks for the link MostlyAir.

Also, it's nice having someone from within the airline posting on Flyertalk and A.net. It stops the spread of incorrect information.

LOL...don't worry it's hard to find some information on the Midwest Airlines website. The KLM page is probably one of the harder things to find, unless you know where you're looking.

I always appreciated a solid answer on some questions, that's why I always like to step in and give people the correct information on FT and A.net when I can.

Delta FF link from our website, if you feel like sharing it. It's easy to find the page when you create it. :D

http://www.midwestairlines.com/MidwestMiles/MilesNews/Delta-Frequent-Flyer-Relationship.aspx

Just Received the email from Midwest:
I'm sure you all received it too

Dear Midwest Miles Member:

We're writing to let you know of an upcoming change to the Midwest Miles program.

As a result of the continuing integration of the Midwest and Frontier brands, Delta Air Lines has decided to terminate its marketing relationship – including codeshare and frequent flyer partnerships – with Midwest. While the benefits of the codeshare were limited for our customers, we understand you may have some questions about the impact this change will have on the Midwest Miles program.

What this means to Midwest Miles members:
You will no longer be able to earn mileage credit on Delta flights beginning June 7, 2010.
You will no longer be able to redeem mileage for award travel on Delta beginning June 7, 2010. You can redeem Midwest Miles for award travel on Delta through 6 p.m., Central Time, June 6. Award tickets will be valid for one year from the date of issuance.
Please be assured that Midwest is committed to delivering the most value to our customers. We are working diligently to explore replacement options for the Delta partnership. As we continue to harmonize the Midwest and Frontier brands, you can look forward to improvements in both the scope and ease of use of our loyalty program. Additionally, Midwest and Frontier are continuing to add destinations and markets. Our combined network now offers service to more than 70 cities throughout the Americas.
(continued)

I await this email with interest as based on this posting which may or may not be correct it does not say anything directly about earning Delta miles on Midwest booked flights. That is my biggest issue/question.

I await this email with interest as based on this posting which may or may not be correct it does not say anything directly about earning Delta miles on Midwest booked flights. That is my biggest issue/question.

I'm pretty confident that you will also not be able to earn Delta miles on Midwest flights.

I'm pretty confident that you will also not be able to earn Delta miles on Midwest flights.

That is confirmed by DL's website.

Well, I guess that YX's program will be similiar to Southwest unless they team up with the Star Alliance (not counting on it). Good thing I was not hoping to redeem any miles for that trip to Europe or Hawaii for that matter. :td:

Well, I guess that YX's program will be similiar to Southwest unless they team up with the Star Alliance (not counting on it). Good thing I was not hoping to redeem any miles for that trip to Europe or Hawaii for that matter.

You can still redeem on KLM, plus they stated they are working to find other partners to replace the lost Delta link.

Do you have many YX miles? I thought you don't fly them.

Well, I guess that YX's program will be similiar to Southwest unless they team up with the Star Alliance (not counting on it). Good thing I was not hoping to redeem any miles for that trip to Europe or Hawaii for that matter. :td:

I could see Republic getting a deal done with another legacy airline. I think going back to AA would probably be a good deal and if JetBlue is part of the deal it would be a big bonus! I think they missed a chance with WestJet in Canada because I hear they are going to team up with Delta. I hope the KLM deal stays too. I think KLM even sponsors some events in MKE. You never know they may even do MKE - AMS someday. :)

You can still redeem on KLM, plus they stated they are working to find other partners to replace the lost Delta link.

Do you have many YX miles? I thought you don't fly them.

True, I do not fly them as much as I had in the past, but I still have a few miles left (55K or so) that I will need to burn. Lets see what the future holds.

True, I do not fly them as much as I had in the past, but I still have a few miles left (55K or so) that I will need to burn. Lets see what the future holds.

Hopefully you find some good use for them! I have quite a few banked Delta miles that I always thought I'd sue for something good, but over the years the value essentially depreciates.

Hopefully you find some good use for them! I have quite a few banked Delta miles that I always thought I'd sue for something good, but over the years the value essentially depreciates.

Knope - Freudian slip or dyslexia? :D

Knope - Freudian slip or dyslexia? :D

ROTFLMAO! Too much cold medicine.

You never know they may even do MKE - AMS someday. :)

I would love to see Delta's response to that!

I would love to see Delta's response to that!

You snooze you lose in this industry.

No great news in Daykin's article, except the reason DL supposedly terminated the agreement. The reader comments are somewhat interesting.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/89677812.html

No great news in Daykin's article, except the reason DL supposedly terminated the agreement. The reader comments are somewhat interesting.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/89677812.html

Nice to see that Daykin is so on top of the "news". For someone that seems all gaga over YX, he sure did take his time in getting this out in the paper. Again, kudos to Blue for starting this thread and getting the real scoop.

The YX search engine has been updated to reflect the discontinuation of the partnership with Delta.

Effective with flights on or after 06/07/2010, DL flights no longer appear in the search results.

How long before we see AA flights loaded? :D:D:D

Reminder - today is the last day with DL and KLM.

http://www.midwestairlines.com/MidwestMiles/MilesNews/Delta-Frequent-Flyer-Relationship.aspx

Deadline is 1:00 PM June 6.

What will the future hold? :eek::eek: