JAL Mileage Bank - oneworld sapphire without flying for JGC c/c holders

Has this been posted?

Beginning April 1, 2010, JL says it will give oneworld sapphire status to JGC members with no elite qualifying miles. Previously, 20,000 EQM (fly-on points) was required to qualify sapphire. A JGC member with no EQM used to get oneworld ruby status.

For Japan-based members, JGC (JAL Global Club) status can be attained after you log enough EQM to be oneworld sapphire (50,000 fly-on points, for instance) and apply for a JGC credit card with an annual fee of at least 10,500 yen.

JL is effectively matching NH, which gives Star Alliance Gold to its SuperFlyer members even if they have no flight activity. SuperFlyer, like JGC, can be attained after you mark 50,000 EQM and apply for an ANA SuperFlyer credit card.

In Japanese:

http://www.jal.co.jp/jalmile/jgc/oneworld.html

Wow, this is great news! So even though I'm flying ANA exclusively this year to get SFC, I can still have oneworld Sapphire status next year when I switch back to JAL!

^^^

English version here: http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/jgc/oneworld.html

So NYCBunny didn't have to take the extra flight to keep his OW Sapphire status :p

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH :mad:


While I'm happy to read this, but damn I spent that morning and wasted 170 to keep my status :P

Oh well, now I can say I've had the pleasure of flying ITM to HND, and the fun of riding an airport limo from Osaka station to ITM :P

English version here: http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/jgc/oneworld.html

So NYCBunny didn't have to take the extra flight to keep his OW Sapphire status :p

Actually I take that back :P

I would have needed that flight from ITM to HND to hit my 4 flights on JAL metal to keep JGC status :P

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH :mad:


While I'm happy to read this, but damn I spent that morning and wasted 170 to keep my status :P

Oh well, now I can say I've had the pleasure of flying ITM to HND, and the fun of riding an airport limo from Osaka station to ITM :P

Actually I take that back :P

I would have needed that flight from ITM to HND to hit my 4 flights on JAL metal to keep JGC status :P

NO...that requirement has been lifted too. The 4 flights are required for JMB status...

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH :mad:


While I'm happy to read this, but damn I spent that morning and wasted 170 to keep my status :P

And the miles you spent on award redemption :p

Another nail in the coffin for my CX MPC membership.

Another nail in the coffin for my CX MPC membership.

If JAL survives...

Now I worry about JGC will get discontinued. How realistic is this, fly 50,000 miles for a year and then mid-level elite for life (as long as you keep the JALCard or pay the 5,000 miles renewal for overseas members).

Now there's even less incentive to accumulate 20,000 FOPs a year. JGC members might just fly less or bank miles on other accounts, e.g. AA...I wish JAL had at least kept the 4 JAL Group flights requirements for OW Sapphire status :( I hate to see sth like AA members go accumulate 50,000 FOPs a year with 4 JAL flights, then only fly on AA afterwards and use JGC for lounge access on domestic flights (AA elites have to pay for lounge access if they are flying domestically).

Wooohoooo more benefits. Yay maybe JALPAK I will decide to fly the dAArkside :D

With effect 4/1/2010 i'm a lifetime *G and OW Sapphire with only paying the creditcard fee :D

Wooohoooo more benefits. Yay maybe JALPAK I will decide to fly the dAArkside :D

With effect 4/1/2010 i'm a lifetime *G and OW Sapphire with only paying the creditcard fee :D

I hate both the dAArkside and the darkside...

I hate both the dAArkside and the darkside...

you don't need to fly AA so often do you?

I know you won't fly NH so :D

Anyways this gives me a change to use the WING and the PIER in HKG next time I fly CX :)

Maybe this will stop me from flying NH after all. But with OW not allowing extra baggage limits and priority bags (CX does this even though they have to) I almost had to pay for extra baggage once. :td:

you don't need to fly AA so often do you?

I know you won't fly NH so :D

Anyways this gives me a change to use the WING and the PIER in HKG next time I fly CX :)

Maybe this will stop me from flying NH after all. But with OW not allowing extra baggage limits and priority bags (CX does this even though they have to) I almost had to pay for extra baggage once. :td:

Well you will get the extra baggage and priority bags if you fly on JAL :p

I am not planning to fly on NH any time soon even though once in a while that though comes to me but I still stay loyal so far :p

Don't get me started on AA. I have to fly on AA when I fly domestically in the US. Last time I flew with them, they cancelled my flight because the pilot didn't bother to show up for work :mad: And the flight on the next day got delayed due to lavatory problem (the previous flight was delayed due to weather radar) :mad:

But anyways, I hate seeing JAL picking up the tabs for lounge access for people who have no intention to fly on JAL at all. If you think about it, switch to JMB for a year to attain JGC membership, then you are set for life and don't have to pay for the admiral club. That's not a bad deal. They only have to earn 5,000 miles on JAL.

One benefit though.

As a NH SFC you get 50%(bonus for NH metal) if you completely lose status.

As a JL JGC you get 35%(bonus for JL metal) if you competely lose status.

So now it's really tough to chose which airline to fly. Almost everything is identical.

If you are flying between the USA-XXX on JL you get 4 bags on NH you get 3 bags. If it is by weight you get 20+20.

One benefit though.

As a NH SFC you get 50%(bonus for NH metal) if you completely lose status.

As a JL JGC you get 35%(bonus for JL metal) if you competely lose status.

So now it's really tough to chose which airline to fly. Almost everything is identical.

If you are flying between the USA-XXX on JL you get 4 bags on NH you get 3 bags. If it is by weight you get 20+20.

Overseas non-Japanese resident JGC members don't get the 35% bonus because we don't qualify for the JALCard :mad: But at least we qualify for JGC . For NH SFC, you can't even qualify if you don't have a Japanese bank account :td:

This might be a positive, albeit short term profiteering route for JL. Firstly JL and NH is now matched vis-a-vis to attract NH defectors to JL. Secondly, JL would get lots of business for people wishing to qualify for JGC and lock in their OW Sapphire. JL might have to pick up the lounge tabs but think of the short term income it can generate. OW FFPs tend to have strong home/regional bias as frequent flyers are more likely to stick to their home carrier's FFP, so I'm not that worried about AA people taking advantage of this.

For the long term, if it gets out of hand, JL can axe these benefits or raise the requirements easily, as it's not set in stone like 1MM/2MM mile lifetime status on AA. Nobody said this is going to be a permanent OW Sapphire status ;)

This might be a positive, albeit short term profiteering route for JL. Firstly JL and NH is now matched vis-a-vis to attract NH defectors to JL. Secondly, JL would get lots of business for people wishing to qualify for JGC and lock in their OW Sapphire. JL might have to pick up the lounge tabs but think of the short term income it can generate.

For the long term, if it gets out of hand, JL can axe these benefits or raise the requirements easily, as it's not set in stone like 1MM/2MM mile lifetime status on AA. Nobody said this is going to be a permanent OW Sapphire status ;)

that's exactly what I am worry about. Don't make the short term profit at the loyal customers' expense :( I hate to see JGC get axed in the future

that's exactly what I am worry about. Don't make the short term profit at the loyal customers' expense :( I hate to see JGC get axed in the future

Doubt they will axe JGC altogether as this is JMB's flagship feature, but maybe reintroducing OW Ruby status for non-fliers, or making it harder to qualify to JGC, say 80,000 - 100,000 miles, which makes more sense for an elite circle of FFs.

We are already locked in to JGC anyways ;)

Doubt they will axe JGC altogether as this is JMB's flagship feature, but maybe reintroducing OW Ruby status for non-fliers, or making it harder to qualify to JGC, say 80,000 - 100,000 miles, which makes more sense for an elite circle of FFs.

We are already locked in to JGC anyways ;)

Or they will start kicking people out the program. They can choose not to renew us if we don't fly enough, say 50,000 miles :(

Now since many people will be locked into both JGC and SFC.

Now it's time to find a way to secure ScaryTeam status without much effort :D

In the short run we will probably see more customers flock to JL, but since a lot of contracts with JAL have moved over to ANA. Let's see if this move will attract more passengers.

Now since many people will be locked into both JGC and SFC.

Now it's time to find a way to secure ScaryTeam status without much effort :D

In the short run we will probably see more customers flock to JL, but since a lot of contracts with JAL have moved over to ANA. Let's see if this move will attract more passengers.

I would rather be a non-elite JAL/ANA flyer than a ScaryTeam elite :p

Actually not too many people will lock into SFC. Only those with Japan bank account can do so :( While with JGC, anyone can.

Or they will start kicking people out the program. They can choose not to renew us if we don't fly enough, say 50,000 miles :(

I highly doubt this will happen.

JGC status hasn't changed much. My mom and dad has been JGC since 96. Back in 1996 you can join the FOP to get JGC. So back then you can fly a total of 50000FOP spilt up with the family! :cool:

Actually, one of my biggest fears if JAL goes under is that both JGC and SFC will get terminated. JGC will die if JAL dies, and once JGC is gone, ANA will have no reason to maintain SFC to remain competitive.

As long as both JAL and ANA exist and continue to compete, there will be enormous pressure on both airlines to maintain the JGC and SFC programs.

If one or both airlines ever does decide to alter their program, I hope that instead of complete termination they just raise the requirement. Maybe something like 20,000 EQMs per year to keep the status, or let existing members pay a fee every year to keep the status.

let existing members pay a fee every year to keep the status.

This is what Japan (which I am) based members do to keep status.

I have to pay a yearly fee of roughly 10000-15000yen(for each) to maintain JGC and SFC. This fee comes from the credit card. If you have gold cards it will cost extra.

This is what Japan (which I am) based members do to keep status.

I have to pay a yearly fee of roughly 10000-15000yen(for each) to maintain JGC and SFC. This fee comes from the credit card. If you have gold cards it will cost extra.

I pay the same amount for credit card in the US (USD 70 for credit card fee, USD30 for JAL Family Account) every year but I still have to pay for renewal fee if I don't fly 25,000 FOPs/10 JAL flights...also no flight bonuses for us...

I don't mind paying even USD200 per year to get those benefits :rolleyes:

This is what Japan (which I am) based members do to keep status.

I have to pay a yearly fee of roughly 10000-15000yen(for each) to maintain JGC and SFC. This fee comes from the credit card. If you have gold cards it will cost extra.

Yes, I pay that fee for JGC too. But I don't really consider that an extra fee for JGC status. Many airline credit cards charge annual fees anyway, so it's not like we're paying much more for the JGC membership.

I was thinking that if JL and NH ever considered terminating the JGC and SFC programs, I would rather see them just impose an extra annual fee or moderate mileage requirement to keep the status. I'd be willing to pay significantly more than the current fee of 10,000 Yen for JGC status...

Nah, that part was fine. I always go there for New Year's and since I was unemployed at the time I had no choice, but to use miles.

The good news is I'm finally back and fully employed again!. Next month I'm looking to go back to Japan for Hanami, and start back on my quest to get back to JGC Sapphire again. Or at least JGC Ruby :p

And the miles you spent on award redemption :p

I'm surprised they lowered the bar to maintain JGC/OW Sapphire.

I thought if anything they would up the ante to kick out "freeloaders"

But I have noticed now a few things about JAL Japanese PAX, and Futami or others located in Japan please feel free to chime in. I've noticed on the domestic flights that almost everyone has either a JAL Card of some type, and lots see to be taking advantage of those services that come with it (upgrades, Lounge Usage, boarding, etc).

Whereas on International flights most of the Japanese PAX in C or F are older Elite PAX, or familys with JFC and elite status. I've sat next to a few gentlemen who are say 50+ years of age and they all had JGC tags that were high status colors while flying C recently.

My opinion after flying domestic now, is that everyone in Japan via credit cards or promotions is an Elite practically.

I agree with NYCBunny that domestic flying usually has high number of elites.

For example the other day when I flew HND-ITM I was on the waitlist for Class J. I had waiting number 25(I was the last to clear)! When I went to the galley and saw the manifest, almost every single passenger in class J was an elite of some sort.

Most people in Japan now have JAL or ANA cards to rack up miles to fly for free some where!

I agree with NYCBunny that domestic flying usually has high number of elites.

For example the other day when I flew HND-ITM I was on the waitlist for Class J. I had waiting number 25(I was the last to clear)! When I went to the galley and saw the manifest, almost every single passenger in class J was an elite of some sort.

Most people in Japan now have JAL or ANA cards to rack up miles to fly for free some where!

But you are flying a popular business route makes. Other flights should be better, say HND-GAJ :p

Whereas on International flights most of the Japanese PAX in C or F are older Elite PAX, or familys with JFC and elite status. I've sat next to a few gentlemen who are say 50+ years of age and they all had JGC tags that were high status colors while flying C recently.

How can you tell the passenger has JFC?

JGC Tags on their carry-on. They were much nicer looking than my black ones ;)

How can you tell the passenger has JFC?

JGC Tags on their carry-on. They were much nicer looking than my black ones ;)

They have a nicer looking one for JFC? JFC stands for JAL Family Club right? I don't think there's one in Japan. Isn't that an overseas program?

They have a nicer looking one for JFC? JFC stands for JAL Family Club right? I don't think there's one in Japan. Isn't that an overseas program?

There is no JAL Family Club in Japan, but since Dec 2009. They have allowed JAL card holders to combine their mileage for free ^. So you don't need to move your address overseas to do the JFC anymore :p

The darkside NH is allowing us to do this starting April 2010 ^

There is no JAL Family Club in Japan, but since Dec 2009. They have allowed JAL card holders to combine their mileage for free ^. So you don't need to move your address overseas to do the JFC anymore :p

The darkside NH is allowing us to do this starting April 2010 ^

I know I am a JFC member but I got no special tag. Maybe NYCBunny meant the green/brown/black JGC tags he saw not JFC tags. And this bring me back to my original question, how did he identify a JFC member :) The only way I can identify one is if I look at their JFC card (or JMB card if they applied both together)...are there really other ways to do so?

There is no JAL Family Club in Japan, but since Dec 2009. They have allowed JAL card holders to combine their mileage for free ^. So you don't need to move your address overseas to do the JFC anymore :p
^

This has been great for my family. It saves us a lot of money on trips to/from the states. (I live in Nagoya.) I have been wanting to get JGC status for a while, but don't travel quite enough to get the miles. :(

Maybe someday.

You can Identify JAL JGC fliers

Under 250000 miles is the normal tag
250000-499999 miles is a green tag
500000-749999 miles is a red tag
750000-999999 miles is a brown tag
1000000+ is black tag and there is no more after that

This has been great for my family. It saves us a lot of money on trips to/from the states. (I live in Nagoya.) I have been wanting to get JGC status for a while, but don't travel quite enough to get the miles. :(

Maybe someday.

Depending on how many miles you travel in one year I would actually make an effort to Mileage Run to get to 50000pp and apply for the JGC. Once you get JGC (if you have the ability to make a Japanese Credit Card) it would be a lifetime benefit(until the rules change). Also you can make your wife/husband/kids(over 18) they all become JGC members(just make supplemetary cards) and from April 1st they will all have OW Sapphire status.

You can Identify JAL JGC fliers

Under 250000 miles is the normal tag
250000-499999 miles is a green tag
500000-749999 miles is a red tag
750000-999999 miles is a brown tag
1000000+ is black tag and there is no more after that

I know...but I was asking for ways to identify JFC (JAL Family Club) members...now that I looked at the keyboard for the first time today...i guess NYCBunny probably mistyped JGC as JFC...didn't realize 'G' is just right next to 'F' until now :p

From what I read online, I believe these miles are different from the ones credited to your accounts. Correct me if I am wrong, these are all international flights miles. For each of the eligible international flight, you will get 100% sector miles credited to your lifetime mile balance. To qualify by taking domestic flights, you will have to take certain number of sectors...

Also you can make your wife/husband/kids(over 18) they all become JGC members(just make supplemetary cards)

One more reason for me to envy those who live in Japan :(

Depending on how many miles you travel in one year I would actually make an effort to Mileage Run to get to 50000pp and apply for the JGC. Once you get JGC (if you have the ability to make a Japanese Credit Card) it would be a lifetime benefit(until the rules change). Also you can make your wife/husband/kids(over 18) they all become JGC members(just make supplemetary cards) and from April 1st they will all have OW Sapphire status.

Wow, I didn't know I could get the whole family included! That's a great incentive to do a lot of traveling this year. :D

btw, nice blog JALpak.

From what I read online, I believe these miles are different from the ones credited to your accounts. Correct me if I am wrong, these are all international flights miles. For each of the eligible international flight, you will get 100% sector miles credited to your lifetime mile balance. To qualify by taking domestic flights, you will have to take certain number of sectors...

The mile part only counts for International. Yes they credit you 100% sector miles. Even if you flew C or F you still only get 100%. So it's the same if you flew on the cheapest of cheap tickets still 100% no matter what. FYI awards don't count.

Domestic wise I forget the numbers. But to get the black tag it's 1250sectors (this one i know)
I'm not sure about the rest, but this is my guestimate
1000 sectors for brown
750 sectors for red
500 sectors for green

The mile part only counts for International. Yes they credit you 100% sector miles. Even if you flew C or F you still only get 100%. So it's the same if you flew on the cheapest of cheap tickets still 100% no matter what. FYI awards don't count.

Domestic wise I forget the numbers. But to get the black tag it's 1250sectors (this one i know)
I'm not sure about the rest, but this is my guestimate
1000 sectors for brown
750 sectors for red
500 sectors for green

You mixed up the color. It should be 750 sectors/500K miles= brown, 1000 sectors/750K miles = red :D And it should be cheapest tickets that are eligible for mileage accumulation will give you 100% miles (international) or 1 sector (domestic).

Do you know if they only count JAL operated flights?

Do you know if they only count JAL operated flights?

Any JAL flight in Japan including all those JAL subsidiary companies. JEX, JTA, etc.. (dun remember off my head) they all count! 1 sector each ^

Actually it was my bad. I thought you said JGC, I misread it.

I mean JFC because I see ex-pat families that live in NYC (or families with one Japanese parent) and have seen them showing JFC card at check-in or in the lounge. Also when you have 3 kids and you're going back to your furusato for shougatsu, I can't imagine you wouldn't have JFC :P

I thought you meant how can I tell the guy next to me in C was JGC :D

They have a nicer looking one for JFC? JFC stands for JAL Family Club right? I don't think there's one in Japan. Isn't that an overseas program?

If anyone really wants to know I can pull the info from the JGC community off of Mixi. They have all the rundowns, plus pictures of the tags.

The mile part only counts for International. Yes they credit you 100% sector miles. Even if you flew C or F you still only get 100%. So it's the same if you flew on the cheapest of cheap tickets still 100% no matter what. FYI awards don't count.

Domestic wise I forget the numbers. But to get the black tag it's 1250sectors (this one i know)
I'm not sure about the rest, but this is my guestimate
1000 sectors for brown
750 sectors for red
500 sectors for green

If anyone really wants to know I can pull the info from the JGC community off of Mixi. They have all the rundowns, plus pictures of the tags.

please do so ^

please do so ^

You can see the pictures here: http://blogari.zaq.ne.jp/to3033/article/1112/
and the rules in Japanese here: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rurumimi3/50823026.html

The part I am confused about is this

特典航空券でのご搭乗は、国際線・国内線ともに対象外とさせていただいております。また、ワンワールド加盟 航空会社便のご搭乗も対象となりませんので、予めご了承くださいますようお願い申し上げます。

I know first part is about award tickets are not eligible. But what about the Oneworld part? :confused:

If anyone really wants to know I can pull the info from the JGC community off of Mixi. They have all the rundowns, plus pictures of the tags.

Didn't know there's a JGC community. Is there one on facebook too? Should we create one :D

You can see the pictures here: http://blogari.zaq.ne.jp/to3033/article/1112/
and the rules in Japanese here: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rurumimi3/50823026.html

The part I am confused about is this



I know first part is about award tickets are not eligible. But what about the Oneworld part? :confused:

Award tickets + One World flights are NOT eligible!(do not count towards the JGC total) Clear enough ;)? :D

Award tickets + One World flights are NOT eligible!(do not count towards the JGC total) Clear enough ;)? :D

Thanks! Good to have someone who knows Japanese better than Google :D

Thanks! Good to have someone who knows Japanese better than Google :D

対象外 and 対象となりませんので

basically.. these two say NOT eligible, but in two different ways. :D

Hope google translation will still help you though :D

対象外 and 対象となりませんので

basically.. these two say NOT eligible, but in two different ways. :D

Hope google translation will still help you though :D

THey are not helping...this is their translation which is obviously wrong...

Award tickets are boarding at the international and domestic We have chosen to exempt them together. In addition, it must also be boarding flights with oneworld member airlines, thank you in advance for you for your note.

please do so ^

青色　　　ＪＧＣ入会時にもらえるタグ
**You receive Blue Tags when you enter JGC
緑色　　　国際２５万マイル、もしくは国内５００回搭乗
** If you fly 250,000 International miles, or 500 domestic flights you receive Green Tags
茶色　　　国際５０万マイル、もしくは国内７５０回搭乗
** If you fly 500,000 International miles, or 750 domestic flights you receive Brown Tags
ワイン色　国際７５万マイル、もしくは国内１０００回搭乗
** If you fly 750,000 International miles, or 1000 domestic flights you receive Wine colored Tags
黒色　　　国際１００万マイル、もしくは国内１２５０回搭乗
** If you fly 1,000,000 International miles, or 1,250 domestic flights you receive black tags.

Please note all tags are leather.

http://mixi.jp/view_bbs.pl?comm_id=73257&page=1&id=1141222

That's the thread on the Mixi JGC community's thread.

If someone can tell me how to upload pics on to here I'll post photos of the tags.

It's an interesting thread, too (if you can read Japanese) lots of cute quick stories and lots of questions answered by long time JGC members. There's a few black tags floating around.

I cancelled my mixi account a couple months ago. Don't feel like signing up again :p

I cancelled my mixi account a couple months ago. Don't feel like signing up again :p

And I can't sign up because it asks for cellphone email...

And I can't sign up because it asks for cellphone email...

I wish you can use my cell addy, but then the problem is that I will know all your secrets :D Plus if i wanted to sign up again myself i won't be able to. :(

And I can't sign up because it asks for cellphone email...

Yes, unfortunately Mixi won't allow you to sign up anymore unless you have a Japanese cell phone e-mail.

I got in a few years before they implemented it, so this 外国人 is grandfathered in.

I joined JAL mileage bank a few years ago to check for award ticket availability. How does this membership compare to JGC?

I joined JAL mileage bank a few years ago to check for award ticket availability. How does this membership compare to JGC?

JGC is an invitation only club exclusive for JAL frequent flyers. Sorry you can't join as an AA EXP!

Award tickets + One World flights are NOT eligible!(do not count towards the JGC total) Clear enough ;)? :D

How about JAL codeshares operated by other carriers? Will those miles count?

How about JAL codeshares operated by other carriers? Will those miles count?

Based on that blog that was linked in the previous page doesn't seem like it. The guy flys out of KIX where there aren't any more JAL metal international flights

Based on that blog that was linked in the previous page doesn't seem like it. The guy flys out of KIX where there aren't any more JAL metal international flights

There is still KIX-BKK which survives the cuts

Too bad I was thinking of routing through KIX and took the KIX-HKG codeshare. Since that won't help on my lifetime miles, NRT/HND-HKG is my only choice :(

I am slightly confused
If I sign up can I get the saphire status immediately? I only plan to fly once or twice with JAL but I have TONS of BA flights in Y and this lounge access would help!

You have to attain JMB first, then apply for JGC, after that if you holding that specific Credit Card (which requires annual fee) then you can keep it as long as you want (given that you continues to hold that card)

For oversea member your only option is to pay miles.

You have to attain JMB first, then apply for JGC, after that if you holding that specific Credit Card (which requires annual fee) then you can keep it as long as you want (given that you continues to hold that card)

For oversea member your only option is to pay miles.

You mean, you have to attain JMB Sapphire first. Starting from scratch.

青色　　　ＪＧＣ入会時にもらえるタグ
**You receive Blue Tags when you enter JGC
緑色　　　国際２５万マイル、もしくは国内５００回搭乗
** If you fly 250,000 International miles, or 500 domestic flights you receive Green Tags
茶色　　　国際５０万マイル、もしくは国内７５０回搭乗
** If you fly 500,000 International miles, or 750 domestic flights you receive Brown Tags
ワイン色　国際７５万マイル、もしくは国内１０００回搭乗
** If you fly 750,000 International miles, or 1000 domestic flights you receive Wine colored Tags
黒色　　　国際１００万マイル、もしくは国内１２５０回搭乗
** If you fly 1,000,000 International miles, or 1,250 domestic flights you receive black tags.

Please note all tags are leather.

http://mixi.jp/view_bbs.pl?comm_id=73257&page=1&id=1141222

That's the thread on the Mixi JGC community's thread.

If someone can tell me how to upload pics on to here I'll post photos of the tags.

It's an interesting thread, too (if you can read Japanese) lots of cute quick stories and lots of questions answered by long time JGC members. There's a few black tags floating around.

Do you actually get any benefits from gaining this mileage apart from a leather tag?

Overseas non-Japanese resident JGC members don't get the 35% bonus because we don't qualify for the JALCard :mad: But at least we qualify for JGC . For NH SFC, you can't even qualify if you don't have a Japanese bank account :td:

This is so typical of Japanese culture but I am surprised JGC is allowed for A) foreigners living in Japan, and B) People living overseas

Those two things right there are amazing in themselves. I guess the whole statement that they both keep these programs to be in competition with each other does not hold up as foreigners living overseas cannot apply for SFC.

Strange that no one has mentioned this but I think the first thing they might axe for JGC is the foreign members living overseas (Yes that is you JALPak) as they do not need to compete with NH on this front.

Do you actually get any benefits from gaining this mileage apart from a leather tag?



This is so typical of Japanese culture but I am surprised JGC is allowed for A) foreigners living in Japan, and B) People living overseas

Those two things right there are amazing in themselves. I guess the whole statement that they both keep these programs to be in competition with each other does not hold up as foreigners living overseas cannot apply for SFC.

Strange that no one has mentioned this but I think the first thing they might axe for JGC is the foreign members living overseas (Yes that is you JALPak) as they do not need to compete with NH on this front.

They should just axe the entire program or at least raise the invitation requirement (Yes that's you Simmo)! They should at least raise this to 250K lifetime miles on JAL so this club is for true JAL experienced flyers. Let's be honest this is pretty ridiculous. One family member attains JGC, entire family (well up to certain number of members) enjoys OW Sapphire :o

They should just axe the entire program or at least raise the invitation requirement (Yes that's you Simmo)! They should at least raise this to 250K lifetime miles on JAL so this club is for true JAL experienced flyers. Let's be honest this is pretty ridiculous. One family member attains JGC, entire family (well up to certain number of members) enjoys OW Sapphire :o

Nah. If they want to stop Americans from taking advantage of this program with the ATI coming up and keep it Japanese as is very typical behaviour in Japan, I think they can solve that very easily by stopping foreigners from joining who do not reside in Japan. Realistically I would think that would be the first step. Look at Mixi now with only people who have mobile email address allowed to sign up. (I was grandfathered too on this one but got an email address if i ever want to sign up again)

I agree it is pretty ridiculous and i am not sure who came up with the idea but it's available at the moment so make the most of it!

I think you know that most airline branded credit cards in Japan give you a lot of the benefits for a domestic flyer and international flyer as having elite status with business class check in, same discounts as elites, lounge access domestically and some international places like Hawaii. Whilst I realise it is not the same respects it is very similar for your average punter.

How many airline Otaku's really want to spend a lot of money on getting this benefit? I bet there are not that many. I still think half those salary men that get Sapphire status do not even apply for JGC as they cannot be bother or do not understand it.

Slight OT but will ask it anyway

I am waiting for my bosses status to change online to JGC. Will he receive a new JMB number or will it remain the same? Thoughts?

Slight OT but will ask it anyway

I am waiting for my bosses status to change online to JGC. Will he receive a new JMB number or will it remain the same? Thoughts?

JAL keeps the number the same.

ANA will change the number every single time you get a new card(only time they won't change is when your credit card expires and they send you a new one).

JAL keeps the number the same.

ANA will change the number every single time you get a new card(only time they won't change is when your credit card expires and they send you a new one).

I rang up and sussed it out and you are right. Somehow is status is still the same online but they think they will somehow get a welcome kit to him in 2 weeks from today. Incredible if you ask me.

I rang up and sussed it out and you are right. Somehow is status is still the same online but they think they will somehow get a welcome kit to him in 2 weeks from today. Incredible if you ask me.

huh what's so incredible about this? :confused:

huh what's so incredible about this? :confused:

Most airlines take about 4 weeks or more for the welcome kit to arrive after they issue it yet JAL is claiming they will have it in 2 weeks and it was requested today.

Most airlines take about 4 weeks or more for the welcome kit to arrive after they issue it yet JAL is claiming they will have it in 2 weeks and it was requested today.

It's just a booklet with his new card. The luggage tag is probably not included and would be sent separately.

Most airlines take about 4 weeks or more for the welcome kit to arrive after they issue it yet JAL is claiming they will have it in 2 weeks and it was requested today.

Well, ANA sent me my kits less than 2 weeks after I crossed each status threshold. I crossed the Bronze threshold on October 14th and had my kit by October 28th. I made Platinum on October 31st and had my kit in only 12 days or so. The status was reflected even faster online -- 2 days after crossing the relevant threshold.

I got my SFC card about 10 or 12 days after sending the request. (But I already had an ANA credit card, so I didn't have to undergo the credit check.)

I don't remember how long it took me to get my JAL status or JGC card. That was almost 7 years ago.

Well, ANA sent me my kits less than 2 weeks after I crossed each status threshold. I crossed the Bronze threshold on October 14th and had my kit by October 28th. I made Platinum on October 31st and had my kit in only 12 days or so. The status was reflected even faster online -- 2 days after crossing the relevant threshold.

I got my SFC card about 10 or 12 days after sending the request. (But I already had an ANA credit card, so I didn't have to undergo the credit check.)

I don't remember how long it took me to get my JAL status or JGC card. That was almost 7 years ago.

Just logged into his account now and he is JGC even with the OW Sapphire logo too. If only it was this easy for me to get it.

Saw a new campaign 12.02 too
* JGC会員の皆さま限定プラン！東急ホテルズが最大50％引きになります！

The ten million dollar question is whether or not is he too late for this ......

Information for JAL Global Club members
The 2011 JAL Calendar and Desk Diary which you prefer to receive are scheduled to be sent to your address registered with JMB in the middle of December, 2010.

Tried to get him a lounge authority letter to be sure he will not encounter any problems on his flight with JAL coming up in 5 days in lieu of not having this card as he is crediting to CX but using JGC for lounge and I do not want him to have any problems.

This is next to impossible to get a hold of and caused major problems. They seems to just want to let me know when he can get lounge access rather than give me a fax or letter for lounge access. It would seem this is pretty standard and i cannot understand why this caused so many issues for them. I have got this many times from other airlines before.

In the end I had to pull my boss out of a meeting to talk to some lady who just put him on hold for 10 minutes and said they would call him back.

Guess i shall find out tomorrow how this goes.....

Also found out calling up the English line then putting in JMB and Pin for JGC will put your through to their Japanese speaking staff.

Just logged into his account now and he is JGC even with the OW Sapphire logo too. If only it was this easy for me to get it.


I first thought you were talking about Unimatrix One and I was like :confused:


The ten million dollar question is whether or not is he too late for this
Information for JAL Global Club members
The 2011 JAL Calendar and Desk Diary which you prefer to receive are scheduled to be sent to your address registered with JMB in the middle of December, 2010.

More of a 1000 yen question perhaps :p

Just logged into his account now and he is JGC even with the OW Sapphire logo too. If only it was this easy for me to get it.

Saw a new campaign 12.02 too
* JGC会員の皆さま限定プラン！東急ホテルズが最大50％引きになります！

The ten million dollar question is whether or not is he too late for this ......

YES too late

Not sure how they pulled it off but he got his JGC card today. Produced and in his hand in 3 working days. Very impressive.

wow! he must be a super duper VIP guy or you hit it off with the person with whom you were arranging the card :p

does it look like he gets the calendar & diary?

wow! he must be a super duper VIP guy or you hit it off with the person with whom you were arranging the card :p

does it look like he gets the calendar & diary?

That's what i figured. I guess it's all about who you know not what you know. He left for Australia this morning on QF as CX were way too expensive for this last minute booking. I shall get him to check though.

I heard QF seats suck, they don't go full flat.
Oh and also they have engine trouble in mid air :p

I heard QF seats suck, they don't go full flat.
Oh and also they have engine trouble in mid air :p

I avoid QF if I can. I would take CX over QF. It tells how bad they are :p So does his boarding pass now has OW Sapphire instead of Ruby?