Religious Travelers - Kosher in Venice

Does anyone have recent experience of kosher places in Venice? I have heard there is a Chabad place where shabbos meals are available. Is this correct? Which hotels are there nearby? Are there any other options?

Thanks in advance
Michael

No personal experience but http://www.jewishvenice.org/ may help you :)

Just go to the Jewish Quarter. It's quite easy to find. From the train station, go down the stairs and immediately go left. Just keep walking straight. Always straight. At the first bridge that crosses a canal, you will go over the bridge and immediately go left. Just about 20 yards after you go left you will see a Star of David painted on a wooden frame. It is a small alley. This is the entrance to the ghetto. You will find 3 or 4 restaurants and well as several antique stores, jewelry stores and the Holocaust Memorial Wall.
As for hotels in the area, there are just a few, but it is not so far from Rialto. There are significantly more choices near Rialto. I would recommend looking at www.venere.com It is quite good for finding hotels in Venice.

A few additional resources and listings:

Totally Jewish Travel (http://www.totallyjewishtravel.com/kosher_restaurants/?location_id_1=4&location_id_2=19&location_id_3=617&search_string=&cuisine=&search=1&search_button.x=33&search_button.y=10)

Shamash: The Jewish Network (http://www.shamash.org/kosher/)

Kosher In Venice.com (http://www.kosherinvenice.com/)

we ate at GamGam this past Aug.NEVER AGAIN yea it was that bad. Next time I will pay whatever it costs and eat at the other restaurant and have a proper Shabbos meal/s and atmosphere

The problem was I was traveling with someone who only wanted to eat there, I cant remember a worst Shabbos. The other restaurant has a Hotel attached to it to boot.

GamGam was a 3 ring circus and bearly enough food to put off the hunger pains

the link to Kosher in Venice that TWA884 provides in their post above mine has the link to both the other restaurant ( LaBalthazar) and the Hotel (Giardino del Ghetto). I spoke to some folks who ate there and they said they too made the mistake their 1st time in VCE and went to GamGam, and never looked back after going here after that.

GamGam might be doable during the week , but at all costs try your best to avoid them on Shabbos

we ate at GamGam this past Aug.NEVER AGAIN yea it was that bad. Next time I will pay whatever it costs and eat at the other restaurant and have a proper Shabbos meal/s and atmosphere

The problem was I was traveling with someone who only wanted to eat there, I cant remember a worst Shabbos. The other restaurant has a Hotel attached to it to boot.

GamGam was a 3 ring circus and bearly enough food to put off the hunger pains

the link to Kosher in Venice that TWA884 provides in their post above mine has the link to both the other restaurant ( LaBalthazar) and the Hotel (Giardino del Ghetto). I spoke to some folks who ate there and they said they too made the mistake their 1st time in VCE and went to GamGam, and never looked back after going here after that.

GamGam might be doable during the week , but at all costs try your best to avoid them on Shabbos

Interesting, because I ate at GamGam and loved it. But I did it during the week and not shabbat, so maybe that made a difference. Another difference was that I ordered the fish. I was with a group, so they gave us only so much meat and fish, so instead of fighting for the meat, I took the fish, and I think it was fresh. Anyways, it was delicious! But I think the restaurant is connected to Chabad. Anyways, here's the link to Chabad's information on Venice: http://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/aid/118209/jewish/Chabad-of-VeniceYeshiva-of-Venice.htm Whenever you have a question about religious (Jewish) facilities abroad, check out Chabad first.

It seems like the restaurant LE BALTHAZAR is closed or simply under a different hashgacha as the link on the page provided above says



Dear visitor,

This is to inform you that the RESTAURANT KOSHER CLUB LE BALTHAZAR is NO LONGER under the Minkowitz management, therefore you are advised that the kashrut is no longer under our responsibility and the services within art not under our responsibility.

we have nothing to do with the above mentioned RESTAURANT.

Cordially

It seems like the restaurant LE BALTHAZAR is closed or simply under a different hashgacha as the link on the page provided above says



Dear visitor,

This is to inform you that the RESTAURANT KOSHER CLUB LE BALTHAZAR is NO LONGER under the Minkowitz management, therefore you are advised that the kashrut is no longer under our responsibility and the services within art not under our responsibility.

we have nothing to do with the above mentioned RESTAURANT.

Cordially

hmm that same message is also posted on the hotel's website http://www.giardinodelghetto.com/

scary.. i have a reservation for the hotel in about 2 weeks and they are not answering the phones or email for the past week...

anyone know of any other kosher hotels in venice?

GAM GAM has amazing great food, I was there in November, shabat was a bit packed meeting new people and there was enough food for everyone, remember gam gam does not charge for shabat.

Venice is very expensive, nothing you can do about it. I just booked a room at the Hotel Palazzo Giovanelli Gran Canal for a fair price around 200/night which is not bad considering the price and what you get. The hotel seems nice and it got decent reviews. I looked at the kosher hotel in the Ghetto and personally it looked gross. The walk from the hotel to the Ghetto isn't too bad for Shabbos, so going to go with that. Any recommendations where to eat?

I was there when I was single a few years back and for me GamGam on Shabbos was fine. But my wife will not like the fact that everyone sits together Friday night. La Taverna del Ghetto would've been nice, unfortunately they do not offer Shabbos meals.

It seems like the restaurant LE BALTHAZAR is closed or simply under a different hashgacha as the link on the page provided above says



Dear visitor,

This is to inform you that the RESTAURANT KOSHER CLUB LE BALTHAZAR is NO LONGER under the Minkowitz management, therefore you are advised that the kashrut is no longer under our responsibility and the services within art not under our responsibility.

we have nothing to do with the above mentioned RESTAURANT.

Cordially

A real pity

seems from what he posted that he sold the place therefore he has nothing to do with it any longer = not being able to say if its still OK kosher wise or not.

Anyone that will be in VCE and the Ghetto would you be so kind as to stop by and let us know if the place is open and if its still kosher and by whom

A real pity

seems from what he posted that he sold the place therefore he has nothing to do with it any longer = not being able to say if its still OK kosher wise or not.

Anyone that will be in VCE and the Ghetto would you be so kind as to stop by and let us know if the place is open and if its still kosher and by whom

It's very annoying cause there's is no contact info or anyway to reach the new management to find out their hechsher and if they have Shabbos meals.

Sorry but can anyone advise if La Balthazar is actually still open?

Going to Venice for just a day so want to get planning!

Any advice on day trips to venice? (Am going from London with the other half!)

Hi, you can reach all the info about the new kosher restaurant (that will open in the middle of july) and also the new Kosher Hotel, that provides shabbat meals, here:

Kosher restaurant "Hostaria del Ghetto"

www.kosherinvenice.com
restaurant@kosherinvenice.com

Kosher House "Giardino dei Melograni"

www.pardesrimonim.net
info@pardesrimonim.net

Michael
Jvenice.org

new kosher restaurant (that will open in the middle of july)


Do you know if this will be open by July 17th?

Thanks,

GAM GAM has amazing great food, I was there in November, shabat was a bit packed meeting new people and there was enough food for everyone, remember gam gam does not charge for shabat.

:td: on Gam Gam. I think the food is pretty dreadful. Matzo ball soup is acceptable.

Does the entire restaurant have to adhere to all Kosher rules?
I am thinking of a couple of great seafood restaurants which would have delicious fish and be acceptable.
A La Testiere
Fiaschetteria Toscana

Does the entire restaurant have to adhere to all Kosher rules?
I am thinking of a couple of great seafood restaurants which would have delicious fish and be acceptable.
A La Testiere
Fiaschetteria Toscana

Yes it does.

No it does not. Just very difficult if it doesn't adhere to all kosher rules. We have weddings all the time catered out of what usually is a non-kosher kitchen.

A Jew needs to be involved in the cooking process of the fish. If there are no Jewish chefs in the kitchen, and the restaurant will not allow you to touch the food in the kitchen, then it may be impossible.

If the fish is kosher, the ingredients are kosher, the pan it is cooked in, and if enough of it is cooked by a Jew for it to be consider bishul yisrael, then it is kosher at least so far... you can still render it non-kosher from the pan till it reaches the consumers mouth.

For most people it is easier to cook at home than making sure what they eat in a non-kosher restaurant is kosher.

No it doesn't. This dish has to adhere to all the rules which is VERY difficult when the entire restaurant does not adhere to all the rules.

The fish must be kosher, the ingredients added to the fish must be kosher, the pan must be clean and kosherized, a Jew must be involved with enough of the cooking for it to be consider bishul yisrael, then the dish is kosher... yet there are still many things from the pan till the consumers mouth that could render it not kosher.

No it doesn't. This dish has to adhere to all the rules which is VERY difficult when the entire restaurant does not adhere to all the rules.

The fish must be kosher, the ingredients added to the fish must be kosher, the pan must be clean and kosherized, a Jew must be involved with enough of the cooking for it to be consider bishul yisrael, then the dish is kosher... yet there are still many things from the pan till the consumers mouth that could render it not kosher.
so practically, yes, the restaurant does have to be fully kosher.

so practically, yes, the restaurant does have to be fully kosher.

no it does not

its just they must cook a persons food differently then they do everyone elses, double wrapped , cant use their utensils especially when dealing with hot food. But they can double wrap the fish and cook it, it wont be the same but its doable albeit with alot of conditions

The safest thing is not to eat there and most places will Not agree to what must be done eg you in the kitchen watching and helping . But if by cahnce youfind a place that is willing to go along with You thenyes its possible to eat kosher fish from a non-kosher restaurant (I said fish since most people wont want to eat meat that was cooked in the same way, you can geta way with fish that way but meat wont taste the same. btw airline meals are not being cooked but are being reheated

:td: on Gam Gam. I think the food is pretty dreadful. Matzo ball soup is acceptable.

Really? I never had the soup, but I really enjoyed Gam Gam when I got the fish and another time when I had the schnitzel

Does the entire restaurant have to adhere to all Kosher rules?
I am thinking of a couple of great seafood restaurants which would have delicious fish and be acceptable.
A La Testiere
Fiaschetteria Toscana

It depends on the person's personal Kashrut observance. Simply, yes a restaurant does need to follow Kosher. As others have pointed out however, there are ways around that.