Midwest Airlines Midwest Miles (Pre-Alignment) - Old Midwest 717 Now at Mexicana




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MostlyAir
Dec 4, 09, 4:24 pm
One of the Midwest 717's made its way to Mexicana.

Mexicana Click (subsidiary of Mexicana) (Mexico City) has painted its ex-Midwest Airlines Boeing 717-2BL N928ME (msn 55194) in the 2009 Oneworld Alliance color scheme.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/worldairlinenews/archives/186933.asp

http://worldairlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/mexicana-click-717-200-n928me-09-oneworldgrd-mex-adulr.jpg?w=500&h=353


Straight talker
Dec 4, 09, 4:50 pm
Looks like another worker replacement opportunity for Republic. Those Mexican pilots are overpaid. Send down the young Republic replacement workers. You just need to add the connect sticker.

n735
Dec 4, 09, 7:51 pm
Looks like another worker replacement opportunity for Republic. Those Mexican pilots are overpaid. Send down the young Republic replacement workers. You just need to add the connect sticker.


Very funny and true. The problem is the Mexican government would kick them back to IND.


MikeFromMKE
Dec 5, 09, 2:33 am
Wow. Again taking kicks at Republic when the 717 pilots being removed was basically out of their control. I'm pretty sure training from the 717 to an E90 is not an overnight process and that's if the unions can make their peace.

Back to the actual thread, good to see that bird found a good home.

frambusch
Dec 5, 09, 5:56 am
The 717 is actually a newer model of the old MD 80/88s that still make up a major part of the DL fleet. Not to mention the DC9 which is the same plane but even older (also still in DL service).

So the Mexicana fleet is much more modern than DL.

LOL

Daze
Dec 5, 09, 8:33 am
Looks like another worker replacement opportunity for Republic. Those Mexican pilots are overpaid. Send down the young Republic replacement workers. You just need to add the connect sticker.

Actually the "click" suffix indicates that the Mexican version of same is
already occurring.

n735
Dec 5, 09, 1:16 pm
Wow. Again taking kicks at Republic when the 717 pilots being removed was basically out of their control. I'm pretty sure training from the 717 to an E90 is not an overnight process and that's if the unions can make their peace.

Back to the actual thread, good to see that bird found a good home.


I kick Republic because they say one thing and do another...

Republic buying Midwest Airlines

MINNEAPOLIS — Republic Airways Holdings said on Tuesday it will buy Midwest Airlines, the second time in two days it has aimed to rescue an ailing airline.


Midwest has been struggling with other airlines encroaching on its hub in Milwaukee, where it is based. AirTran, which tried to buy Midwest as recently as 2007, has an extensive schedule there, and Southwest has said it plans to add flights there later this year.

As Midwest has shrunk, it has hired Republic to do much of its flying.

Republic is buying the airline from majority owner TPG Capital. Republic said it expects the deal to close in one month to six weeks.

Indianapolis-based Republic said it will replace all of Midwest’s Boeing 717s with Embraer 190s once the separate unions that represent pilots and flight attendants merge their ranks, Republic Chairman and CEO Bryan Bedford said.

On Monday Republic offered to buy Denver-based Frontier Airlines out of bankruptcy.

MikeFromMKE
Dec 5, 09, 2:12 pm
In an ideal world, that is exactly what Republic wanted. But boeing wanted its aircraft back and the unions are still at a standstill. So yet again, the unions are causing the problems.

n735
Dec 5, 09, 2:49 pm
In an ideal world, that is exactly what Republic wanted. But boeing wanted its aircraft back and the unions are still at a standstill. So yet again, the unions are causing the problems.


I heard unions were behind the financial market crashing, too.

Unions aren't the problem... America needs more middle income jobs. Why should a employee working in a factory (working hard) not make a middle income wage? Why should a CEO make 50 times the average workers wage? Why not think corporate greed is the problem?

blucys
Dec 7, 09, 11:57 am
America needs more middle income jobs. Why should a employee working in a factory (working hard) not make a middle income wage? Why should a CEO make 50 times the average workers wage? Why not think corporate greed is the problem?

Why not take Tim Hoeksma to task then, if you have that much hatred for CEO's? He seems to have been a constant through the buildup of Midwest and rode it down all the way as well.

Are you saying that the two unions are not the reason that the Midwest pilots have been furloughed? Does Bedford have any influence over either of the unions to force them to get it together? If so, what is it?

tvnwz
Dec 7, 09, 1:46 pm
I heard unions were behind the financial market crashing, too.

Unions aren't the problem... America needs more middle income jobs. Why should a employee working in a factory (working hard) not make a middle income wage?

I believe a Republic pilot flying a 175/190 with 10 years senority is making $90 an hour. that is far and above a "middle income job."

hazelrah
Dec 7, 09, 2:30 pm
Are you saying that the two unions are not the reason that the Midwest pilots have been furloughed? Does Bedford have any influence over either of the unions to force them to get it together? If so, what is it?

Do you think that Brian Bedford, or for that matter any Amercan CEO would work without a contract? The answer is no.

The tentacles go deep here my friends. Way back when when CAL was a distressed company TPG was apparently prepared to staple the CAL pilots to the bottom of Delta's seniority list in a prospective deal with Delta.

The only thing that stopped this was Gordon Bethune. So yes, CEOs do have influence. CAL, TPG, Bethune, one set of outcomes. Midwest, TPG, Republic, and Hoaeksaema, another set.

n735
Dec 7, 09, 5:55 pm
Have you ever asked how America gets most of the productive increases in the last 10 yrs?

Few campanies are growing, but CEOs have used Wall Street finance companies to merge (Frontier, Midwest, Republic) two or more businesses together.

Wall Street makes millions, CEOs make millions, duplicate employees fill the unemployment lines, productive is improved, America is more efficient... but nothing more has been made.

Just a few people get richer.



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