MilesBuzz! - 100,000 miles for new BA Chase VISA




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j3brooklyn
Nov 4, 09, 3:24 pm
From the NYTimes: (http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/the-best-credit-card-signup-bonus-ever/?hp)

As Gary Leff reported in his View from the Wing blog, British Airways and Chase Card Services will soon be offering 100,000 miles to people who sign up for the British Airways Visa Signature card, possibly the most lucrative credit card sign-up bonus ever and equivalent to two round-trip coach tickets from North America to London.

Generally, the best one can get by signing up for similar cards is 25,000 miles, though targeted offerings have occasionally gone a bit higher.

New cardholders will receive a bonus of 100,000 British Airways miles — 50,000 miles after their first purchase and another 50,000 after spending at least $2,000 in the first three months. The bonus will first be available Friday to existing members of the British Airways frequent flier program and will be open to a broader audience Nov. 16.

Existing card holders will also get new benefits including earning 1.25 miles for every $1 spent and 2.5 miles for every $1 spent on British Airways travel, up 25 percent from previous earning levels. They will also receive a companion redemption voucher for a trans-Atlantic flight if they spend $30,000 a year on the card. Those who sign-up for the card will also automatically become members of the airline’s frequent flier program, known as Executive Club.


Apply using this link: http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/br...ays/hp_postpin LINK NO LONGER VALID

New application link courtesy of RedSox: https://applynow.chase.com/FlexAppWeb/renderApp.do?SPID=CQ7K&CELL=6R8Y&AFFID=&CLICK=&CID=&PROMO=DF01&MKID=&MSC=

To determine if your application has been approved: dial 800-945-2006, wait for the prompt and then press "#", the "1", then enter your SSN. It may take 48 hours or more for approval; until then you'll get a message saying you'll receive notification in the mail in 7-10 days. If you already have a chase.com account, your BA VISA will appear online as soon as it is approved. If it seems to be taking a long time (or you're just impatient), you can call 888-270-2127 to speak to a human. Some FTers with multiple Chase cards have found their approval to be on hold; when they called in their credit limit was reallocated or they were given the option of closing a card and then received approval during the call.

You have 93 days from APPROVAL (not application, not receipt of the card, not activation) to spend the $2000.

There are reports that the $75 annual fee has been waived for some people.

If you are new to BA, here are some useful links courtesy of christianj:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/721790-read-first-ultimate-ba-guide.html#post8172633

This part specifically covers spending miles and the part on Partner awards is listed at the bottom:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/8172633-post14.html


ajnaro
Nov 4, 09, 7:11 pm
From the NYTimes: (http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/the-best-credit-card-signup-bonus-ever/?hp)

As Gary Leff reported in his View from the Wing blog, British Airways and Chase Card Services will soon be offering 100,000 miles to people who sign up for the British Airways Visa Signature card, possibly the most lucrative credit card sign-up bonus ever and equivalent to two round-trip coach tickets from North America to London.



Is there a link to apply for this? I can't find anything like this sign-up bonus online!

chewy3
Nov 4, 09, 7:14 pm
According to the article, it is open for signups on Friday.


beckoa
Nov 4, 09, 7:38 pm
WOW!

This could be what I've been waiting for... wonder if there will be any other bennies... plus the annual fee :eek: :p

GuyverII
Nov 4, 09, 7:40 pm
Drum roll....

abcx
Nov 4, 09, 7:43 pm
So what does this get you? And how much do taxes and "fees" run on BA? Don't trust them too much after the BOM debacle.

yuel
Nov 4, 09, 7:53 pm
Are there any bonus promotions for enrolling in the EC

gleff
Nov 4, 09, 7:58 pm
Here's the scoop.

$75 annual fee
50,000 miles with first purchase
50,000 miles after $2k in spend within 3 months
1.25 miles per dollar

And the best benefit aside from the signup bonus: every year that you spend $30k on the card you get a certificate for a free companion award redemption.

Now, BA has family accounts. So if 2 people get this card that's $200k miles in bonuses after $4k in spend.

Put $30k total spend on one of the cards and $2k on the other, and you earn 240,000 total miles plus a free companion.

That would buy you (2) first class award tickets from the US to, say, Dubai...

Now you will pay some decent taxes on awards, a business class award from the US to Europe runs ~ US$350 IIRC. But this is still a pretty phenomenal deal. I wouldn't put more than $30k a year on the card, but it sure seems worth putting the $30k there..

stevens397
Nov 4, 09, 8:18 pm
So should I cancel my existing BA card immediately? Or should I keep it and get one for my wife?

tanzaniancane
Nov 4, 09, 8:21 pm
Wow this is one heck of an offer ^

beckoa
Nov 4, 09, 8:52 pm
Here's the scoop.

$75 annual fee
50,000 miles with first purchase
50,000 miles after $2k in spend within 3 months
1.25 miles per dollar

And the best benefit aside from the signup bonus: every year that you spend $30k on the card you get a certificate for a free companion award redemption.

Now, BA has family accounts. So if 2 people get this card that's $200k miles in bonuses after $4k in spend.

Put $30k total spend on one of the cards and $2k on the other, and you earn 240,000 total miles plus a free companion.

That would buy you (2) first class award tickets from the US to, say, Dubai...

Now you will pay some decent taxes on awards, a business class award from the US to Europe runs ~ US$350 IIRC. But this is still a pretty phenomenal deal. I wouldn't put more than $30k a year on the card, but it sure seems worth putting the $30k there..

Thanks gleff for the scoop :cool: ^

Now if they bring back the dollar coins :p this could work out well ^

The companion cert... does this work in conjunction with award tickets?

Mr. Bean
Nov 4, 09, 8:54 pm
nice. taxes/fuel surcharges apply on awards, i think. might get more bang for upgrades. wonder if they charge the same fees for partner redemptions.

Cha-cha-cha
Nov 4, 09, 8:55 pm
[QUOTE]
And the best benefit aside from the signup bonus: every year that you spend $30k on the card you get a certificate for a free companion award redemption.
/QUOTE]

I don't know about that. A lot of these companion fare deals only apply to the most expensive tickets in the class -- often fare you have to buy to get the "free" companion ticket is a non-discount fare that costs more than twice as much as you'd pay just buying two discount tickets in that class. I don't know the details of the BA offer, but I'd check into this before getting too excited about this particular feature.

chewy3
Nov 4, 09, 8:57 pm
[QUOTE]
And the best benefit aside from the signup bonus: every year that you spend $30k on the card you get a certificate for a free companion award redemption.
/QUOTE]

I don't know about that. A lot of these companion fare deals only apply to the most expensive tickets in the class -- often fare you have to buy to get the "free" companion ticket is a non-discount fare that costs more than twice as much as you'd pay just buying two discount tickets in that class. I don't know the details of the BA offer, but I'd check into this before getting too excited about this particular feature.

No, it's an award companion ticket - i.e. redeem for one BA award and get another free for a companion.

gleff
Nov 4, 09, 9:19 pm
The companion cert... does this work in conjunction with award tickets?
It works ONLY in conjunction with an award ticket. It's 2 award tickets for the price of one. ^

gleff
Nov 4, 09, 9:20 pm
So should I cancel my existing BA card immediately? Or should I keep it and get one for my wife?

Well, the wife will definitely want one. ^

But I have a question in to the execs at Chase on whether someone that has had a BA Visa in the past can re-apply now for this card and earn the signup bonus.

That aside, you don't need to cancel your existing card and get a new one for the companion award benefit -- that's something that all BA Visa cards issued by Chase will have.

I'm just trying to find out whethere there's any way a past cardholder can get that 100k bonus!!

Mr. Bean
Nov 4, 09, 9:21 pm
IIRC, 100,000 BA miles gets a oneworld award (up to 20,000 miles) (in Y, but that's still pretty good).

dldkjones
Nov 4, 09, 9:24 pm
It works ONLY in conjunction with an award ticket. It's 2 award tickets for the price of one. ^

and for any class of service too.^^

Mr. Bean
Nov 4, 09, 9:29 pm
and for any class of service too.^^

does it work for partner metal or only BA metal?

nwa330
Nov 4, 09, 10:35 pm
I'm all over this promotion. Both my wife and I. A couple of coin purchases and off to Dubai I go. I've been out of the mile game for a while but these last few month have secured free travel for the next couple of years with all the promotions out there.

Looks like BA will get me to Dubia

CO crdeit card, debit card, checking account, mileathon, 50k in coins should get me to Europe 3 times

Delta has racked up another 150k. maybe 1 domestic ticket with them. (mile devaluation)

30000 SPG point 3-7 nights hotel.

Keep these promotions coming.

thepla
Nov 4, 09, 10:44 pm
Delta has racked up another 150k. maybe 1 domestic ticket with them. (mile devaluation)



You really think there are many "MED" awards to only spend 150K?

nwa330
Nov 4, 09, 10:53 pm
Not sure what MED is but Delta wards are a joke now. Good luck using them.

thepla
Nov 4, 09, 11:00 pm
Not sure what MED is but Delta wards are a joke now. Good luck using them.

MED is for Medium award level. I was joking about how difficult they are to acquire.

tmcneill
Nov 4, 09, 11:14 pm
does it work for partner metal or only BA metal?

Redemption Flights and Redemption Vouchers may only be used for flights on British Airways mainline service, which have a BA prefixed flight number. Travel on franchise, codeshare or alliance airlines is not permitted.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/RED1TRAV2/public/en_us

abcx
Nov 4, 09, 11:19 pm
Redemption Flights and Redemption Vouchers may only be used for flights on British Airways mainline service, which have a BA prefixed flight number. Travel on franchise, codeshare or alliance airlines is not permitted.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/RED1TRAV2/public/en_us

Hmm. That certainly dilutes the value of the 2 for 1 voucher. BA will hit you with hundreds of dollars in fuel surcharges. For example, IIRC, the YQ on flights US-DEL is around 400. So even with these miles, a Y ticket to India will cost you about $600 (incl. taxes and the card fee). Normal coach probably runs around a few hundred dollars more with better availability and routing options and no award booking hassle. No thanks, BA.

I might still get the card but only because the 100k can be used on OneWorld carriers like AA which does not have a YQ. Terrible redemption value (100k for coach upto 20k miles flown like in this US-DEL example), but makes a long-haul ticket about $200 incl. all taxes and card fees which is a decent deal.

Happy
Nov 4, 09, 11:31 pm
[QUOTE=abcx;12769996]
I might still get the card but only because the 100k can be used on OneWorld carriers like AA which does not have a YQ. Terrible redemption value (100k for coach upto 20k miles flown like in this US-DEL example), but makes a long-haul ticket about $200 incl. all taxes and card fees which is a decent deal.[/QUOT

Why would it be terrible redemption value for the 20K miles flown OW award?

It is the same as AA's, 100K in Y, 130K in J and 180K in F.

Though I suspect the tax / fee would be much lower using AA miles.

abcx
Nov 4, 09, 11:35 pm
[QUOTE=abcx;12769996]
I might still get the card but only because the 100k can be used on OneWorld carriers like AA which does not have a YQ. Terrible redemption value (100k for coach upto 20k miles flown like in this US-DEL example), but makes a long-haul ticket about $200 incl. all taxes and card fees which is a decent deal.[/QUOT

Why would it be terrible redemption value for the 20K miles flown OW award?

It is the same as AA's, 100K in Y, 130K in J and 180K in F.

Though I suspect the tax / fee would be much lower using AA miles.

I was comparing to *A's 80k award. That's why I said terrible. Of course, if you compare to DL, then I'm sure this is a bargain. Also, shouldn't tax and fees be the same whether you're using AA or BA miles to book awards on AA?

Happy
Nov 4, 09, 11:44 pm
[QUOTE=abcx;12770027]

I was comparing to *A's 80k award. That's why I said terrible. Of course, if you compare to DL, then I'm sure this is a bargain. Also, shouldn't tax and fees be the same whether you're using AA or BA miles to book awards on AA?

You are comparing apple to orange. The OW award is DIFFERENT from the All-Airlines award. The Star A's 80K is the equivalent to AA's All-Airlines award which is 90K in Y, (45K oneway) higher than 80K for Star A, but lower than 100K for OW award.

OW award is a unique award for AA - there is no equivalent.
The rules are totally different from the more well-understood All-Airlines award.

abcx
Nov 4, 09, 11:49 pm
[QUOTE=abcx;12770044]

You are comparing apple to orange. The OW award is DIFFERENT from the All-Airlines award. The Star A's 80K is the equivalent to AA's All-Airlines award which is 90K in Y, (45K oneway) higher than 80K for Star A, but lower than 100K for OW award.

OW award is a unique award for AA - there is no equivalent.
The rules are totally different from the more well-understood All-Airlines award.

Hmm. I see. How much would redeeming BA miles for AA only tickets cost me US-Europe/South Asia/Australia? This page (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecredeemprtnrinfo/public/en_gb) wants me to call BA. :( I imagine it would be cheaper than the oneworld two partner airlines/three airlines one of which is BA awards?

mrpickles
Nov 4, 09, 11:52 pm
It works ONLY in conjunction with an award ticket. It's 2 award tickets for the price of one. ^

details here www.ba.com/redeemfor1travelfor2
just got a brochure in the mail

Family account works; anyone at the same household they merge the miles into one account.

And if you cancel the trip more than 24 hours prior to departure the free companion reward certificate is redeposited.

Boghopper
Nov 4, 09, 11:54 pm
So should I cancel my existing BA card immediately? Or should I keep it and get one for my wife?

I'll be it's only for new cardmembers.

Kalboz
Nov 5, 09, 12:00 am
Sign me up ... any promotional codes available to join BA's Executive Club?

Mr. Bean
Nov 5, 09, 12:19 am
I might still get the card but only because the 100k can be used on OneWorld carriers like AA which does not have a YQ. Terrible redemption value (100k for coach upto 20k miles flown like in this US-DEL example), but makes a long-haul ticket about $200 incl. all taxes and card fees which is a decent deal.

Why would it be terrible redemption value for the 20K miles flown OW award?

It is the same as AA's, 100K in Y, 130K in J and 180K in F.

Though I suspect the tax / fee would be much lower using AA miles.

For BA, the J award is 2X the Y award. So 200K BA miles for 20,000 mile OW award (instead of 130K AA). F is 3X (300K BA vs. 180K AA).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/multicarrier/public/en_us

The real value in the OW award (IMO) is because of unlimited stopovers + 1 open jaw, up to 16 segments.

I don't think BA can charge YQ for partner routes (unless the partner themselves charges one), since it's not booked as a codeshare or anything. But I may be wrong :o

jbalmuth
Nov 5, 09, 12:20 am
Redemption Flights and Redemption Vouchers may only be used for flights on British Airways mainline service, which have a BA prefixed flight number. Travel on franchise, codeshare or alliance airlines is not permitted.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/RED1TRAV2/public/en_us

For those of us located on the east coast, the next sentence is also a problematic restriction:

"All travel must originate in and return to the US."

If all you wanted was a pair of BA J or F seats from LHR to CPT, MRU, or DEL etc., this offer won't work for you. [From NYC one can almost always find a cheap, paid TATL flight on AA, CO or DL that costs significantly less than what BA charges for fuel surcharges alone. To also spend a lot of miles for the TATL --- in addition to high fuel surcharges --- is typically not a good use of BA mles]

Mr. Bean
Nov 5, 09, 12:31 am
For those of us located on the east coast, the next sentence is also a problematic restriction:

"All travel must originate in and return to the US."

If all you wanted was a pair of BA J or F seats from LHR to CPT, MRU, or DEL etc., this offer won't work for you. [From NYC one can almost always find a cheap, paid TATL flight on AA, CO or DL that costs significantly less than what BA charges for fuel surcharges alone. To also spend a lot of miles for the TATL --- in addition to high fuel surcharges --- is typically not a good use of BA mles]

And even if there is partner availability, I think BA will put you on their own metal if it's available (and subsequently charging you their extra fees).

That's why the oneworld award seems like the best deal to me, unless you're pooling multiple of these bonuses together for a longhaul F/J award. You get to at least choose the metal you fly on.

gleff
Nov 5, 09, 5:52 am
The value in the card is the free companion award, that requires BA metal, and there the value is in premium class travel.. leverage it the way I described above, 2 people get the card and pool miles via a household account... one hits the minimum spend for the voucher.. 240k miles 2 ppl fly F US-LHR-DXB. Crazy, considering it's only $32k in total spend on a credit card to get that. ^

Or 1 person could get the card, put $40k in spend on it, hit 150k miles and 2 people fly say LAX-LHR in F.

mia
Nov 5, 09, 6:57 am
There is already a thread in the BA forum discussing the 2-for-1 voucher and other changes to the card.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1004128-ba-chase-visa-signature-card-usa-increased-mileage-earnings.html

Mike1625
Nov 5, 09, 7:53 am
This is a big time win for me. I live in Tampa, and Tampa's only non-stop to Eurpoe is BA to Gatwick. It kills me that my AA miles won't work on the flight, and I have thought about trying to rack up BA miles just to redeem for that award, so Mrs. Mike1625 can have a non-stop (where I have grown used to looking for out of the way stops as often as possible).

mikeef
Nov 5, 09, 8:05 am
How do I household accounts? I have a BAEC account and my wife doesn't. Does she need to sign up for an account and then we combine them?

Mike

mia
Nov 5, 09, 8:51 am
I household accounts?

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecterms/public/en_us

Scroll down to Section 16, Household Accounts

mikeef
Nov 5, 09, 9:11 am
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecterms/public/en_us

Scroll down to Section 16, Household Accounts

:)

Mike

JudyJFLA
Nov 5, 09, 9:56 am
This always happens. Get the card, then a better offer comes along. Will they allow a second card or are all of we early adopters out of luck on this offer?

JudyJFLA

guv1976
Nov 5, 09, 10:01 am
If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?

Edited to add: BAEC has advised that flying first class on AA, even on a two-class aircraft, requires redemption at the first class award level, which would be 105,000 BAEC miles for NYC-Hawaii on AA. But en route stopovers, at connecting points along the "most direct routing," are free and unlimited.

aaron1262
Nov 5, 09, 10:03 am
knowing BA's wonderful standards..they will probably cancel the miles bonus once you sign up for the card...just because they can. :rolleyes: leaving you with a card you don't need or necessarily want and no "free" trip if you can even call it that.

GuyverII
Nov 5, 09, 10:35 am
If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?

Hmmm...anyone confirm this?

josephstern
Nov 5, 09, 10:40 am
I just converted my account to a household account to include my wife. No reason to add my kids for now, as far as I can see.

So hopefully we'll each get cards, get some coins, and get our 200K miles and some companion tickets. Looks pretty good!

As an aside, I don't think I've ever flown BA, but considering my one and only trip on RyanAir, I'd be more than happy to patronize their rival.

doubled79
Nov 5, 09, 11:12 am
I'm in for the offer. Thanks, Gary!

But can I redeem BA miles from MCI or IND. Or do I have to go to ORD or another airport where they fly out of? I looked at the BA online booking tool and MCI or IND were not listed as options.

That would reduce the value of my award. Also, any idea on the taxes on an F award to Europe?

Thanks!

adamak
Nov 5, 09, 11:19 am
Last year I redeemed JFK-LHR-JNB in J, and taxes were $1k. Still worth it though, IMHO.

I am looking forward to this, esp T&C. I hope they have a long signup windows. I just applied my AA and don't want another credit pull in a week.

mia
Nov 5, 09, 11:24 am
any idea on the taxes on an F award to Europe?

Look here...

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ba6.jsp/seccharge/public/en_gb

Kibison
Nov 5, 09, 11:30 am
I have had five of these BA cards over the last four years and I have gotten the sign-up bonus every time EXCEPT the last time, in May, 2009. They sent me a letter with my new card saying I would not qualify since I was a previous card holder.

So, I cancelled the last card to avoid the $75 annual fee.

I am certain existing or past recipients of this card will not qualify for the bonus miles.

yanxfann
Nov 5, 09, 12:17 pm
I guess that I'm unlike most other FT'ers in that all of the 3M+ frequent flyer miles that I've redeemed in the past 20 years have been for coach "saver" type travel, zero for Business or First. Of those miles approx 200K have been BA - mostly from Diners Club redemptions - of which all have been redeemed for use on AA metal for travel from east of the Mississippi to Hawaii (taxes have always been less than $20 roundtrip). I see this particular Chase BA Visa promo as an easy way to get almost 3 coach roundtrips - or 6 one-ways - to Hawaii for only $75, personally I don't even care about the free companion award redemption as I don't anticipate ever setting foot on BA metal.

maracle
Nov 5, 09, 12:20 pm
If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?

I'd be interested to know the situation with partners as well. If I understand the BA site, I can fly North America to South America for only 40k miles? For example I'd be interested in Detroit to Buenos Aires on AA...it would only be 40k AA miles on "offpeak" dates, which are rather limited...otherwise 60k.

However I've also tried searching on BA's site for award travel on AA and it's hard to find anything. Even dates where I can see on AA's site that there are 20k offpeak fares available they don't necessarily come up on BA - it wants to put me half on AA and half on LAN, which then costs quite a bit more miles.

Any advice on this? How does inventory work when trying to redeem BA miles on partners (not through oneworld awards)?

gleff
Nov 5, 09, 12:33 pm
I am certain existing or past recipients of this card will not qualify for the bonus miles.
I'm assuming not as well, but I did receive a commitment to have this question answered.

yuel
Nov 5, 09, 12:36 pm
if i am correct the fuel surcharge for economy usa to europe award ticket is $107 or $141 depending on # of hrs, each way or rt?

adlibitum
Nov 5, 09, 12:38 pm
I'm also wondering how easy it is to redeem, in my case on BA metal. We're looking for 2-4 SFO-LHR roundtrips for the family next year. Anyone have experience redeeming in economy with BA miles?

cupps
Nov 5, 09, 1:03 pm
Thanks for posting this great card offer. Saw the mention about household accounts. Would'nt you want to wait until after both of you have applied for a card to change to household accounts? I presume if you are all under one account that you would then only be able to apply for one card. Just want to make sure I maximize the opportunity.

mia
Nov 5, 09, 1:10 pm
Anyone have experience redeeming in economy with BA miles?

I don't think past performance will be a good indicator because BA is (potentially) flooding North America with miles. It isn't only this 100,000 mile bonus, they have also increased the earnings on the card by 25% from 1 to 1.25 miles per dollar. BA miles are also offered through any Chase card which participates in Ultimate Rewards, as well as the Amazon VISA,

In addition BA has announced their intention to join American Express Membership Rewards. The relative importance of MR redemptions is hard to judge because many business travellers have corporate cards linked to the program and no option to use another program.

This is on top of the existing ability to earn BA miles thorough Starwood Preferred Guest, one credit card issue by Bank of America (Merrill+ VISA) and one charge card issued by Citi (Diners Club Mastercard).

mia
Nov 5, 09, 1:15 pm
...household accounts....if you are all under one account...

The Household Account does not replace each member's separate BAEC account, it merely links them together for redemption purposes. Each member still has a separate frequent flyer number and account balance. When we transfer miles from Amazon, Chase Freedom, Diners Club or Starwood the miles are credited to an individual account.

adlibitum
Nov 5, 09, 1:25 pm
I don't think past performance will be a good indicator because BA is (potentially) flooding North America with miles. It isn't only this 100,000 mile bonus, they have also increased the earnings on the card by 20% from 1 to 1.25 miles per dollar. BA miles are also offered through any Chase card which participates in Ultimate Rewards, as well as the Amazon VISA,

In addition BA has announced their intention to join American Express Membership Rewards. The relative importance of MR redemptions is hard to judge because many business travellers have corporate cards linked to the program and no option to use another program.

This is on top of the existing ability to earn BA miles thorough Starwood Preferred Guest, one credit card issue by Bank of America (Merrill+ VISA) and one charge card issued by Citi (Diners Club Mastercard).

Does that mean it will be harder to redeem with so many more miles out there, or would they open more inventory?

luv2ctheworld
Nov 5, 09, 1:26 pm
Look here...

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ba6.jsp/seccharge/public/en_gb

Wow... those fuel surcharges can get mighty steep!

abcx
Nov 5, 09, 1:41 pm
You are comparing apple to orange. The OW award is DIFFERENT from the All-Airlines award. The Star A's 80K is the equivalent to AA's All-Airlines award which is 90K in Y, (45K oneway) higher than 80K for Star A, but lower than 100K for OW award.

OW award is a unique award for AA - there is no equivalent.
The rules are totally different from the more well-understood All-Airlines award.



Hmm. I see. How much would redeeming BA miles for AA only tickets cost me US-Europe/South Asia/Australia? This page (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecredeemprtnrinfo/public/en_gb) wants me to call BA. :( I imagine it would be cheaper than the oneworld two partner airlines/three airlines one of which is BA awards?

Anyone have an answer to my question above?

Thanks

Mr. Bean
Nov 5, 09, 2:47 pm
Anyone have an answer to my question above?

Thanks

For one thing, you can't redeem BA miles for AA TATL and AA does not fly its own metal to Australia.

For South Asia, AA only flies to DEL. I don't know the rate that BA would charge for that.

If you live on the west coast, you might consider an OW award instead and going TPAC (AA/CX/JL combos), then compare to what BA quotes you for flying AA TATL to India.

philemer
Nov 5, 09, 4:05 pm
The offer is now on the BA website. Click on "Executive Club" and then "News and offers" and then the picture of the Visa card. I'm glad the US Mint coin deal isn't completely dead yet.

RedSox
Nov 5, 09, 4:16 pm
Here is a direct link.

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

Here's the bad news.

This one-time bonus offer is valid only for first-time cardmembers with new accounts. Existing cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer.

rrgg
Nov 5, 09, 4:20 pm
I logged in at BA.com but didn't see any indication of when the limited time offer will end. Was that noted in the original email?

tanzaniancane
Nov 5, 09, 4:29 pm
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This one-time bonus offer is valid only for first-time cardmembers with new accounts. Existing cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer.

Quick question if anyone has ideas about this - does this mean any previous chase account makes one ineligible or just a previous chase account with a BA credit card? Just trying to figure out what they mean by cardmember vs account. Thanks!

RedSox
Nov 5, 09, 4:33 pm
Quick question if anyone has ideas about this - does this mean any previous chase account makes one ineligible or just a previous chase account with a BA credit card? Just trying to figure out what they mean by cardmember vs account. Thanks!

It would be pretty dirty if it was any existing account, but I understand your caution. I would have to go with a BA associated Chase card.

PedroNY
Nov 5, 09, 4:49 pm
thank you for the post, it is very very exciting.

is this offer live? i heard it would be live on Friday for BA customers and in two weeks for non-BA customers.

Does anyone know what agency Chase credit card pull will be hitting (Experian, Equifax, TransUnion)? I am on the East Coast (NJ/NY) if that matters.

Thank you,

PedroNY

jkoenig51
Nov 5, 09, 4:53 pm
I am in florida and its equifax,same as citi.I have alot of equifax pulls and this will kill my citi churing

mikeef
Nov 5, 09, 4:54 pm
It won't let me erase a second cardholder. Grr.

Mike

j3brooklyn
Nov 5, 09, 4:59 pm
Applied using the link supplied above. After submitting my info I got a new window:
REQUEST COMPLETE
Your credit card application certificate has been received and we will be sending you a response via US Mail within 15 days

Hope this is what others are getting.

nic3456
Nov 5, 09, 5:02 pm
Applied using the link supplied above. After submitting my info I got a new window:
REQUEST COMPLETE
Your credit card application certificate has been received and we will be sending you a response via US Mail within 15 days

Hope this is what others are getting.

That's the message I got....I also just realized I applied for the Chase Sapphire 4 months ago. Saw on another board something about 1 app per 6 months with Chase? Nothing in the terms so I hope I'm ok.

mikeef
Nov 5, 09, 5:03 pm
Applied using the link supplied above. After submitting my info I got a new window:
REQUEST COMPLETE
Your credit card application certificate has been received and we will be sending you a response via US Mail within 15 days

Hope this is what others are getting.

Ditto.

Mike

justind
Nov 5, 09, 5:07 pm
Could someone supply a link to the page, I'm getting nothing following the click on "executive club" "news and offers route" Thanks.

--JD

j3brooklyn
Nov 5, 09, 5:10 pm
Could someone supply a link to the page, I'm getting nothing following the click on "executive club" "news and offers route" Thanks.

--JD

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

josephstern
Nov 5, 09, 5:26 pm
Got the same page after completing my app.

I have Debix, so I should be getting a call on my "special phone number" asking for my "special passphrase" to allow access to my credit file.

brasov02
Nov 5, 09, 5:45 pm
Trying to look for an excuse to go for the card but so far no luck. BA is not useful out of PDX not to mention the exorbitant fuel charges even if it were. How about any transfer opportunities? Can you transfer BA miles into any hotel programs like you can with AA? I would definitely go for the card if that was the case but I haven't found any such opportunities...

christianj
Nov 5, 09, 6:05 pm
Just applied and also got the 15 day response after I completed the application. Not usually one to jump on most CC offers but I just could not pass this up since BA flies out of all three airports that I use for international flights (BWI, PHL and IAD).

Could someone supply a link to the page, I'm getting nothing following the click on "executive club" "news and offers route" Thanks.--JD I would think that you have to be logged into your account since the offer is currently only supposed to be open for current Executive Club members.

CMHFlyerOH
Nov 5, 09, 6:23 pm
One concern I do have is in the terms:

"1 You will first be considered for a Visa Signature card. If you do not qualify for that product, you will automatically be considered for a Visa Platinum card, which has different fees, benefits, and credit availability. For pricing details, please see Pricing & Terms. For benefits details, please read your credit card benefits materials which will be mailed after your account is established."

Chase has the same sort of clause with the Chase United Mileage Plus Visa card--and back in college when I applied for a 20,000 mile bonus offer for the Signature card, I was given the Platinum card--and the bonus as well.


Any experiences with Chase and the BA Executive Club Visa in this regard? In the event that someone is denied the Signature card but approved for the Platinum card, will he/she still receive the 100,000 bonus and the companion certificate (with $30,000 in spending)?

guv1976
Nov 5, 09, 6:36 pm
Trying to look for an excuse to go for the card but so far no luck. BA is not useful out of PDX not to mention the exorbitant fuel charges even if it were. How about any transfer opportunities? Can you transfer BA miles into any hotel programs like you can with AA? I would definitely go for the card if that was the case but I haven't found any such opportunities...

How about just using the 100,000 BA miles for award travel on AA and/or AS?

brasov02
Nov 5, 09, 7:10 pm
How about just using the 100,000 BA miles for award travel on AA and/or AS?

It sounds like, with what others have said, BA doesn't give you many, if any, options for non-BA metal. If I knew I had a good chance of getting some cheap AA award I would definitely go for it. So is there some trick to getting an AA, or AS award via the BA booking? My BA learning curve here is pretty much a flat line thus far...

abcx
Nov 5, 09, 7:15 pm
It sounds like, with what others have said, BA doesn't give you many, if any, options for non-BA metal. If I knew I had a good chance of getting some cheap AA award I would definitely go for it. So is there some trick to getting an AA, or AS award via the BA booking? My BA learning curve here is pretty much a flat line thus far...

I'm not a BA expert, but it seems that you can redeem for the (overpriced) oneworld award even if BA metal awards are available. It would be nice if someone can confirm this. Also, can you get non-TATL AA metal awards if BA metal is available? Is pricing for this different from the oneworld awards?

GUWonder
Nov 5, 09, 7:30 pm
I'm not a BA expert, but it seems that you can redeem for the (overpriced) oneworld award even if BA metal awards are available. It would be nice if someone can confirm this. Also, can you get non-TATL AA metal awards if BA metal is available? Is pricing for this different from the oneworld awards?

For example, IB-only and AY-only award tickets for US-Europe travel from Zone ABC to Zone XYZ price out the same in miles as they would if on a BA-only US-Europe award tickets for Zone ABC-Zone XYZ trip.

GUWonder
Nov 5, 09, 7:32 pm
It sounds like, with what others have said, BA doesn't give you many, if any, options for non-BA metal. If I knew I had a good chance of getting some cheap AA award I would definitely go for it. So is there some trick to getting an AA, or AS award via the BA booking? My BA learning curve here is pretty much a flat line thus far...

I've used BA miles for award travel between the US and South America on AA-only and LA-only itineraries.

bennytma
Nov 5, 09, 7:39 pm
I've used BA miles for award travel between the US and South America on AA-only and LA-only itineraries.

I have as well. BA availability on AA tends to be similar to whats shown on AA.com although I haven't been able to get BA to ticket convoluted routings that AA would (e.g. JFK-DFW-MIA-SSA). Also its worth noting that BA change/redeposit fees for award tickets are much less than for awards using AA miles.

GUWonder
Nov 5, 09, 7:42 pm
I have as well. BA availability on AA tends to be similar to whats shown on AA.com although I haven't been able to get BA to ticket convoluted routings that AA would (e.g. JFK-DFW-MIA-SSA). Also its worth noting that BA change/redeposit fees for award tickets are much less than for awards using AA miles.

... and no rapid redemption fee for booking awards on short notice either. [Just make sure to book your award travel at least one full business day (or maybe two) before your desired date of departure.]

chewy3
Nov 5, 09, 7:43 pm
A good use of BA miles is 100k in J NA to East Asia or 150k in F (can fly CX, JL or AA) or South America 80k in J or 120k in F (LA or AA)

philemer
Nov 5, 09, 7:44 pm
Trying to look for an excuse to go for the card but so far no luck. BA is not useful out of PDX not to mention the exorbitant fuel charges even if it were. How about any transfer opportunities? Can you transfer BA miles into any hotel programs like you can with AA? I would definitely go for the card if that was the case but I haven't found any such opportunities...

pdx-sea-lhr and return. Fees & taxes look to be about $166. Add the annual c.c. fee and it looks like a good deal. Or use on AA & AS. Of course, you could just churn the CITI AA card and get 30K miles a month with no c.c. fees. :)

abcx
Nov 5, 09, 7:59 pm
For example, IB-only and AY-only award tickets for US-Europe travel from Zone ABC to Zone XYZ price out the same in miles as they would if on a BA-only US-Europe award tickets for Zone ABC-Zone XYZ trip.

Does BA let you redeem for other airlines even if there is BA metal available?

GUWonder
Nov 5, 09, 8:17 pm
Does BA let you redeem for other airlines even if there is BA metal available?

Yes.

ansatzjp
Nov 5, 09, 8:26 pm
Sign me up ... any promotional codes available to join BA's Executive Club?

I am also curious about this.

Mr. Bean
Nov 5, 09, 8:30 pm
Yes.

*Partner airlines will be offered where British Airways is not available on the requested date or does not fly the route.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecspendlanding/public/en_us

Online at least, it won't show the partner availability unless there is no BA metal available. Not sure if calling is different.

Kalboz
Nov 5, 09, 9:50 pm
related article on Bloomberg: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601208&sid=aU6lxatzjriM

The miles, worth a round-trip transatlantic flight, will be awarded to customers who spend $2,000 on the co-branded British Airways Signature Visa cards within the first three months, according to a statement. Credit-card issuers including American Express Co. have sweetened their rewards programs, even after lenders said federal regulations enacted in May could squeeze profit, increase costs and prompt them to scale back incentives.

jbalmuth
Nov 5, 09, 10:14 pm
A good use of BA miles is 100k in J NA to East Asia or 150k in F (can fly CX, JL or AA) or South America 80k in J or 120k in F (LA or AA)

Two of the best uses of BA miles:

RT to S. America in J on LAN for 80k (permits a free enroute stopover in each direction; note that Easter Island is a valid S. America destination),

One-way positioning flights in F on CX to Asia for 75K.

Most partner flights need to be booked by phone, as you can't book an enroute stopover on a partner airline online, and many partner cities, including IPC, don't appear as valid choices online. That's not really a problem, as ba.com is hardly bug-free, and there's no penalty for changing ticketed partner redemption dates/flights by phone. Indeed, ime, BAEC seems to have more/better access to LA inventory than you can get from LA directly....

RedSox
Nov 5, 09, 10:15 pm
If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?


I believe this would cost you 105k BA miles for a partner award, 3 x 35k for first. A business class award would be 70k miles but even on a 2-class AC it would be considered a first award. I tried to book (as an exercise) a J award from JFK to HNL but the only availability was either in Y at 35k or F at 105k.

nwa330
Nov 5, 09, 10:32 pm
My wife and I just signed up. Where should we go?

MCO-EZE, HKG, SYD DXB or 2 European vacation?

Really excited about this promotion. Offers like this don't come around often. I'm leaning on J class to EZE.

flyupfront
Nov 5, 09, 10:42 pm
pdx-sea-lhr and return. Fees & taxes look to be about $166. Add the annual c.c. fee and it looks like a good deal. Or use on AA & AS. Of course, you could just churn the CITI AA card and get 30K miles a month with no c.c. fees. :)

How do you churn 30k miles a month?

jdrumm95
Nov 5, 09, 10:51 pm
Applied using the link supplied above. After submitting my info I got a new window:
REQUEST COMPLETE
Your credit card application certificate has been received and we will be sending you a response via US Mail within 15 days

Hope this is what others are getting.

Same here, never had any account with Chase at all

jdrumm95
Nov 5, 09, 10:54 pm
from the offer page:
"You will first be considered for a Visa Signature card. If you do not qualify for that product, you will automatically be considered for a Visa Platinum card, which has different fees, benefits, and credit availability. For pricing details, please see Pricing & Terms. For benefits details, please read your credit card benefits materials which will be mailed after your account is established."

I assume this means if you are only approved for the Platinum card then you will not get the goodies we are all wanting?

Mr. Bean
Nov 5, 09, 11:35 pm
Two of the best uses of BA miles:

RT to S. America in J on LAN for 80k (permits a free enroute stopover in each direction; note that Easter Island is a valid S. America destination),

One-way positioning flights in F on CX to Asia for 75K.

Most partner flights need to be booked by phone, as you can't book an enroute stopover on a partner airline online, and many partner cities, including IPC, don't appear as valid choices online. That's not really a problem, as ba.com is hardly bug-free, and there's no penalty for changing ticketed partner redemption dates/flights by phone. Indeed, ime, BAEC seems to have more/better access to LA inventory than you can get from LA directly....

The Easter Island redemption is a great use of the miles ^

jpdx
Nov 6, 09, 12:08 am
Note that there's no immediate credit report pull. Iow, this is not a good time to use the pull-minimizing technique of applying for several Chase cards at the same time (if you use that technique in this case, you might get approved for your PC/UA/CO card(s) immediately, and then denied for the BA card when they process the application).

Noodlesz
Nov 6, 09, 12:36 am
A good use of BA miles is 100k in J NA to East Asia or 150k in F (can fly CX, JL or AA) or South America 80k in J or 120k in F (LA or AA)

Is this roundtrip? Doesn't specifically say on the BA site, just 'trip'
50,000 RT between Asia and NA is fantastic. Usually it's 60-70K RT for most programs.

abcx
Nov 6, 09, 1:02 am
Two of the best uses of BA miles:

RT to S. America in J on LAN for 80k (permits a free enroute stopover in each direction; note that Easter Island is a valid S. America destination),

Does LAN have fuel surcharges? That sounds like a great deal.

abcx
Nov 6, 09, 1:46 am
Two of the best uses of BA miles:

RT to S. America in J on LAN for 80k (permits a free enroute stopover in each direction; note that Easter Island is a valid S. America destination), I did some more research and this is actually a great idea. LAN has no YQ and this routes through Lima and Santiago anyway. So take two stopovers and see all that S. America has to offer. :)

Someone on SD also mentioned that you can redeem these for 4 AA domestic flights? Is that true? That's not terrible either...unfortunately AA does not offer awards to Alaska (at least on their website) which I have found offer the best redemption value for domestic awards.

decibel08
Nov 6, 09, 2:22 am
i've never had anything to do with BA but this offer was too good to refuse. i'm sure i'll find a use for 100k BA miles even if it is to send someone else across the pond or out to hawaii.

^

friedice
Nov 6, 09, 2:51 am
Anyone has any idea how long this offer will last? It says it's limited-time offer and I can't apply for another 3-4 months due to that Chase 1 card every 6 months policy.

johnnybgood3
Nov 6, 09, 3:03 am
So having received the Chase UA signup bonus will disqualify me?

atwnsw2
Nov 6, 09, 6:06 am
I can't find the link to 100k miles offer.

Would somebody point me in the right direction?

Thanks

GUWonder
Nov 6, 09, 6:13 am
I can't find the link to 100k miles offer.

Would somebody point me in the right direction?

Thanks

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

nyc325
Nov 6, 09, 6:17 am
I did some more research and this is actually a great idea. LAN has no YQ and this routes through Lima and Santiago anyway. So take two stopovers and see all that S. America has to offer. :)

Someone on SD also mentioned that you can redeem these for 4 AA domestic flights? Is that true? That's not terrible either...unfortunately AA does not offer awards to Alaska (at least on their website) which I have found offer the best redemption value for domestic awards.

AA might not offer flights to Alaska, but Alaska Airlines sure does and they're a BA partner too!

Anyone yet have a direct link to the 100K specific application? I'm still only seeing the 30,000 one.

GUWonder
Nov 6, 09, 6:21 am
AA might not offer flights to Alaska, but Alaska Airlines sure does and they're a BA partner too!

Anyone yet have a direct link to the 100K specific application? I'm still only seeing the 30,000 one.
It's online now:

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

xp0
Nov 6, 09, 6:30 am
On and off reader for a long time now (Although I seemed to have been absent during all the good stuff! Until now!) Figured it was finally time to start being active around these parts.

Quick question ... How do we sign up for the household accounts? I want to sign my wife up but have the ability to combine the points? (That is what you can do with household accounts, correct?) Also I thought I ready that you can only sign up 1 household account per 6 months? So I can have my brother sign up for household account and be linked to us either, can I?

GUWonder
Nov 6, 09, 6:42 am
On and off reader for a long time now (Although I seemed to have been absent during all the good stuff! Until now!) Figured it was finally time to start being active around these parts.

Quick question ... How do we sign up for the household accounts? I want to sign my wife up but have the ability to combine the points? (That is what you can do with household accounts, correct?) Also I thought I ready that you can only sign up 1 household account per 6 months? So I can have my brother sign up for household account and be linked to us either, can I?

Welcome to posting on FT.

You can sign up for household accounts using the form on BA's website after you have created the individual BA Executive Club program accounts for yourself and the members of your household who share the same address on file with BA.

You are limited to how many members may be part of a household account, and changes to it may be limited too. Also, household account redemptions may still be limited to bookings made in the name of the members who are part of the household account.

Household accounts pool the miles from the individual accounts for purposes of redeeming the miles, thus allowing you to combine miles you earn with miles your wife earns when attempting to redeem miles for a ticket.

guv1976
Nov 6, 09, 6:55 am
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8703e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)

If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?


I believe this would cost you 105k BA miles for a partner award, 3 x 35k for first. A business class award would be 70k miles but even on a 2-class AC it would be considered a first award. I tried to book (as an exercise) a J award from JFK to HNL but the only availability was either in Y at 35k or F at 105k.

That contradicts what an Executive Club rep told me. Try booking out of LGA, which does not offer 3-class aircraft, and see if that changes things. (AA offers some domestic 3-class service out of JFK.)

gpapadop
Nov 6, 09, 6:56 am
I got a Chase Sony Card on 11/5/09 & a Continental CC on 10/20/09 (along with two Continental debit cards linked to two new Continental Chase checking accounts). So, to continue my perfect cc streak, do I apply for this one now?

Will this have any effect on my regular Citibank AA cc churning? (so far so good there, but starting to get worried).

guv1976
Nov 6, 09, 6:57 am
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8703e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)


Two of the best uses of BA miles:

RT to S. America in J on LAN for 80k (permits a free enroute stopover in each direction; note that Easter Island is a valid S. America destination),

Are you sure that you're permitted only one stopover in each direction?

yanxfann
Nov 6, 09, 7:03 am
1. Someone on SD also mentioned that you can redeem these for 4 AA domestic flights? Is that true? That's not terrible either...

2. unfortunately AA does not offer awards to Alaska (at least on their website) which I have found offer the best redemption value for domestic awards.

1. Yes, 100K BA will get you four saver AA domestic R/T's @ 25K miles each, see this (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/partnertable/public/en_us) and click on "North America".

2. Yes AA does indeed offer awards to Alaska on their website, see here (http://www.aa.com/pubcontent/en_US/disclaimers/free-ticket-award-chart.jsp) where it says "§ Continental U.S. includes Alaska" and "§§ North America is defined as the U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, The Bahamas, and the Caribbean." In turn BA miles can be used on AA metal for travel to Alaska at the domestic mileage requirement rate. FYI keep in mind that for years BA has allowed redemptions for one-way travel at half of the R/T mileage requirement (they allowed this long before DL, AA and other US airlines recently jumped on the bandwagon).

mikeef
Nov 6, 09, 7:26 am
from the offer page:
"You will first be considered for a Visa Signature card. If you do not qualify for that product, you will automatically be considered for a Visa Platinum card, which has different fees, benefits, and credit availability. For pricing details, please see Pricing & Terms. For benefits details, please read your credit card benefits materials which will be mailed after your account is established."

I assume this means if you are only approved for the Platinum card then you will not get the goodies we are all wanting?

That's my assumption. No chicken, no check-in.

Mike

IMH
Nov 6, 09, 7:50 am
Note that there's no immediate credit report pull.

There was for me, or if not "immediate" then within a couple of hours. I applied yesterday evening and today Experian shows a pull dated yesterday.

nyc325
Nov 6, 09, 7:52 am
It's online now:

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

GUWonder - You've posted this a bunch of times for those of us who have been asking for the official link. Thank you!!! for your patience and for the generous sharing of knowledge and expertise!

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 8:22 am
from the offer page:
"You will first be considered for a Visa Signature card. If you do not qualify for that product, you will automatically be considered for a Visa Platinum card, which has different fees, benefits, and credit availability. For pricing details, please see Pricing & Terms. For benefits details, please read your credit card benefits materials which will be mailed after your account is established."

I assume this means if you are only approved for the Platinum card then you will not get the goodies we are all wanting?

That's my assumption. No chicken, no check-in.

Mike

My bold..

I read that differently. I would argue (not with you:p) that the miles are a bonus to the offer, not a benefit. I have seen other offers that clearly state that if you are not approved for xx card you will be considered for xy card and the bonus offer is listed in the T&C because it's different. However with any banking offer, YMMV.

xp0
Nov 6, 09, 8:50 am
Thanks for the answer. After reading the British Airways Household Account information it seems pretty solid. Up to 6 people can accumulate miles together in the household so if My wife, brother, and I all sign up as living in our house that could be 300,000 miles right off the bat. Seems like a good deal to me!

*edit*
Do anyone know if I then later cancel my wife's CC ... do all those miles get wiped out of the "pooled" miles of the household account or do I get to keep them? Id hate to sign us both up .... then start only using one of the cards and cancel the other only to loose 100,000 of those miles.

Thanks!

adamak
Nov 6, 09, 9:03 am
Should I wait or jump in? I applied for 2 AA cards in the past 2 months. Already 2 pulls.

trm2
Nov 6, 09, 9:12 am
Can someone tell me why I shouldn't do this? I'm not worried about credit or a pull. 100k miles for next to nothing?

chewy3
Nov 6, 09, 9:19 am
My guess is that they are offering such an amazing bonus because BA is in financial trouble so they agreed to sell a large amount of miles to Chase on the cheap.

mia
Nov 6, 09, 9:25 am
...miles are a bonus to the offer, not a benefit.

Agreed, most card issuers draw a distinction between rewards (tied to spending) and benefits (inherent in the card). The distinction is blurred at the margins when there are benefits tied to spending thresholds, but this seems unambiguous.

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 9:31 am
Should I wait or jump in? I applied for 2 AA cards in the past 2 months. Already 2 pulls.

It says it's a limited time offer but has no expiration date.

I also got 2-Citi AA cards about 2-3 months ago but have solid credit.

However, approval standards can be a moving target, so if denied for any reason I'll call Chase underwriting and ask them to reallocate a credit line from one of my existing cards and more than likely they will approve.

The other outcome could be: declined Mr. RedSox, and oh...and by the way we reduced the CL on your Chase Rewards card from 45k to $500. Thank you for doing business with Chase.

yosithezet
Nov 6, 09, 9:37 am
Anything special we should know about redemption for those of us without status on BA? Should it be easy to use these miles for say a CX flight?

manuvns
Nov 6, 09, 10:02 am
regarding the fuel surcharge listed on the page . Is it one way or round trip ?
I was looking at fuel surahcarge on India ticket . It says

4For Economy tickets originating USA/Canada to India (via London) the surcharge is USD 182.
For Economy tickets originating India to USA/Canada (via London) the surcharge is USD 157.

dnfuss
Nov 6, 09, 10:03 am
Just went on BA website and this promotion still does not appear.

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 10:23 am
Just went on BA website and this promotion still does not appear.

It's in the Executive Club section under News and Offers. You will need to sign in to BA to see it.

Or you can save that step and use this link.

http://www.mychasecreditcards.com/britishairways/hp_postpin

sanchari
Nov 6, 09, 10:25 am
Just submitted an app & a page that said "response within 15-30 days via us mail" appeared .

Consistent with what others are seeing ?

whynotgo
Nov 6, 09, 10:28 am
Just submitted an app & a page that said "response within 15-30 days via us mail" appeared .

Consistent with what others are seeing ?

I just got the response. I also am curious if others are getting this response. Did anyone get immediate approval?

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 10:36 am
Just submitted an app & a page that said "response within 15-30 days via us mail" appeared .

Consistent with what others are seeing ?


Welcome to FT.

Yes, this is consistent with what others are reporting.

sat45
Nov 6, 09, 10:44 am
Hi,
I stumbled across thos board and I love it. This is my first post.

After reading the pages, I applied for this card with additional card member as my wife. But now I realise that...family pool is not an additional card member. So, can I call and cancel my wife's additional card and then apply for her on her own and then merge. Will this cause any issues?

I also don't understand Y, S, YG, etc, etc segment terminology you guys are using. Anywhere to learn them.. :)

Also, Do we have to pay the $75 for this year, even though we hvae barely 2 months left in this year. Or is this pro-rated?

sanchari
Nov 6, 09, 10:47 am
Hi,
I stumbled across thos board and I love it. This is my first post.

After reading the pages, I applied for this card with additional card member as my wife. But now I realise that...family pool is not an additional card member. So, can I call and cancel my wife's additional card and then apply for her on her own and then merge. Will this cause any issues?

I also don't understand Y, S, YG, etc, etc segment terminology you guys are using. Anywhere to learn them.. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_class_codes

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 11:00 am
Hi,
I stumbled across thos board and I love it. This is my first post.

After reading the pages, I applied for this card with additional card member as my wife. But now I realise that...family pool is not an additional card member. So, can I call and cancel my wife's additional card and then apply for her on her own and then merge. Will this cause any issues?

I also don't understand Y, S, YG, etc, etc segment terminology you guys are using. Anywhere to learn them.. :)

Welcome to FT.

You can still apply for a separate card for your wife. The additional card member is an authorized user based on your account, not a co-applicant.

The best place I can offer for learning is to start here.

http://www.flyertalk.com/newuser/

whynotgo
Nov 6, 09, 11:01 am
Hi,

Also, Do we have to pay the $75 for this year, even though we hvae barely 2 months left in this year. Or is this pro-rated?

sat45,

Welcome to Flyertalk! Sometimes the jargon can become overwhelming but your case is simple.

Try this link (by the way I found it by Googling, (british airways fare codes), "Google is your friend".

http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php/Booking_Classes_%28BA%29

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 11:02 am
Hi,
I stumbled across thos board and I love it. This is my first post.

After reading the pages, I applied for this card with additional card member as my wife. But now I realise that...family pool is not an additional card member. So, can I call and cancel my wife's additional card and then apply for her on her own and then merge. Will this cause any issues?

I also don't understand Y, S, YG, etc, etc segment terminology you guys are using. Anywhere to learn them.. :)

Also, Do we have to pay the $75 for this year, even though we hvae barely 2 months left in this year. Or is this pro-rated?


It's a 12 month period from your card anniversary.

mia
Nov 6, 09, 11:22 am
pay the $75 for this year, even though we hvae barely 2 months left in this year. Or is this pro-rated?

Credit card annual fees are not calculated on a calendar year basis. You be billed $75 now, and this fee will recur each year in November.

jamienbaker
Nov 6, 09, 11:56 am
Anything special we should know about redemption for those of us without status on BA? Should it be easy to use these miles for say a CX flight?

It was for me yesterday, got 3 JFK-HKG-DPS award seats for passengers with no status.

lucky9876coins
Nov 6, 09, 11:56 am
So I've found some threads which indicate that one can only apply for a Chase card every six months. I applied for one in July, so I guess I'll have to wait. Any practical experience that would suggest otherwise?

This is one heck of an offer!^

jamienbaker
Nov 6, 09, 11:58 am
Anything special we should know about redemption for those of us without status on BA? Should it be easy to use these miles for say a CX flight?

...though I should add BA miles can only be spent on household members, so if your plan is to gift a trip to a colleague (for example), they'd have to live with you. Flame me if this has recently changed...

Grasshopper
Nov 6, 09, 12:09 pm
FYI - duck and cover due to incoming newbies. This is getting big pub on SlickDeals and I'm assuming other deal websites, so anticipate a bunch of new traffic on the site. Everyone be nice now. ;)

H/T to the OP and thanks for all the info.

elshagon
Nov 6, 09, 12:24 pm
Slickdeals newbie here :D one quick question: I'm a nonmember to the Executive Club, must I wait until November 16 to sign up or has it worked for anyone using the link provided? I'm looking forward to using this forum and can't believe I just found it!

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 12:32 pm
Slickdeals newbie here :D one quick question: I'm a nonmember to the Executive Club, must I wait until November 16 to sign up or has it worked for anyone using the link provided? I'm looking forward to using this forum and can't believe I just found it!

Welcome.

You can sign up for EC right now if you want. But, by using the link and applying, Chase will automatically sign you up for a EC account.

ChiTownAbs
Nov 6, 09, 12:33 pm
Question: My next overseas trip will probably be somewhere in the Pacific region -- is it mandatory to fly on BA metal or is there a partner I could fly with for the same amount of miles?

mikeef
Nov 6, 09, 1:01 pm
...though I should add BA miles can only be spent on household members, so if your plan is to gift a trip to a colleague (for example), they'd have to live with you. Flame me if this has recently changed...

How many people are living with you now? ;)

Mike

CalvaryMike
Nov 6, 09, 1:03 pm
FYI - duck and cover due to incoming newbies. This is getting big pub on SlickDeals and I'm assuming other deal websites, so anticipate a bunch of new traffic on the site. Everyone be nice now. ;)

H/T to the OP and thanks for all the info.
Yup, just wait until this hits FatWallet! A matter of minutes. Yikes!

rrgg
Nov 6, 09, 1:07 pm
This is a great offer if you get the 2-for-1 voucher, but it will help to review the BA award chart before making assumptions about the value of 100k miles alone. There are good values, but also expensive ones you might not expect. For example, US-SYD is 140k in economy. First class US-Europe is 150k-180k. Also look at the distance-based award charts.

RedSox
Nov 6, 09, 1:10 pm
Yup, just wait until this hits FatWallet! A matter of minutes. Yikes!

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/964868/

GuyverII
Nov 6, 09, 1:12 pm
It's over. Run for the hills...

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 1:20 pm
Holy carp, I just choked and about spilled my coffee over this thread.

The missus and I have both now applied. I remember a DL Amex promo from '01 or so that netted about 75k miles for $10k in spending. 100k for $2k is eye-popping.

Once again, thank you fellow FlyerTalkers. :) I received the 15-30 day thing too, but I have no reason to believe that Chase would deny either of us a Visa.

abcx
Nov 6, 09, 1:24 pm
Just applied. Now just hoping it gets approved.

aaron1262
Nov 6, 09, 1:28 pm
i just took a look at the award charts. it might be a typo..but under the BA + one other airline chart it's 50K in Y from NA to S. America. US-LHR-GRU for 100K in J? :D that would be a sweet deal if you don't mind the flying.

mrx900
Nov 6, 09, 1:31 pm
A lot of people from FW and SD will be applying w/o knowing the caveats to credit limits, credit scores, and simply basing their whole experience from others postings from the site. 100K on BA doesnt exactly do a lot of damage. A previous member stated, that you need at least 150 to cross the pond in C ..

Defly watch the potholes when going into this deal.

adamak
Nov 6, 09, 1:31 pm
Moderator should split this into 2 threads : cc related questions and how to redeem. And possibly create sticky / FAQ on first page.

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 1:38 pm
i just took a look at the award charts. it might be a typo..but under the BA + one other airline chart it's 50K in Y from NA to S. America. US-LHR-GRU for 100K in J? :D that would be a sweet deal if you don't mind the flying.

Stopover allowed? :D Torn between a vacation in Europe or South America this year??? How 'bout both!! ^

mia
Nov 6, 09, 1:41 pm
need at least 150 to cross the pond in C ..


:confused: Transatlantic business class requires 100,000 miles, roundtrip. Calculator here...

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecredeemcalculator/public/en_us

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 1:42 pm
100K on BA doesnt exactly do a lot of damage. A previous member stated, that you need at least 150 to cross the pond in C ..

Defly watch the potholes when going into this deal.

True, BA has some different sweet spots than the typical US program, but if I'm approved I look at it like this: would I buy 100k BA for $75 + 2000 Starpoints? Heck yeah! :cool:

In 2011 or 2012, our whole family will be going to Lancaster for a couple weeks. Since the joys of C are lost on the kiddos, we might actually use those 50k Y awards.

yosithezet
Nov 6, 09, 1:44 pm
It was for me yesterday, got 3 JFK-HKG-DPS award seats for passengers with no status.

Great. Now to figure out how many miles it takes to go DEL-BKK on CX. I poked around the redemption part of BA's website but it wasn't all that straightforward. Kept routing me through LHR.

josephstern
Nov 6, 09, 1:46 pm
The Chase website is surprisingly cheesy. They use graphics with text in them (so they can't be copied or indexed?) and they use really low quality JPEGs for those, so they're pretty blurry. For a major financial company, the whole experience is not one of comfort, to me.

Pretty much every other website I use in the financial world looks much, much better. What's going on over there? Doesn't inspire confidence.

abcx
Nov 6, 09, 1:47 pm
The Chase website is surprisingly cheesy. They use graphics with text in them (so they can't be copied or indexed?) and they use really low quality JPEGs for those, so they're pretty blurry. For a major financial company, the whole experience is not one of comfort, to me.

Pretty much every other website I use in the financial world looks much, much better. What's going on over there? Doesn't inspire confidence.

It's one of the stronger banks. Relax.

josephstern
Nov 6, 09, 1:49 pm
I'm not concerned, and I've done plenty of business with Chase over the years. I'm just surprised that their webmasters don't see a problem.

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 1:49 pm
The Chase website is surprisingly cheesy. They use graphics with text in them (so they can't be copied or indexed?) and they use really low quality JPEGs for those, so they're pretty blurry. For a major financial company, the whole experience is not one of comfort, to me.

Pretty much every other website I use in the financial world looks much, much better. What's going on over there? Doesn't inspire confidence.

Chase is a major bank - I use them for my Marriott and United cards already. The points post correctly and I have never had any problems with them. There are certainly a lot of complaints here and elsewhere about them, but I don't think any are related to either their rewards cards not working or fear of the bank dissolving. I've also had one of my car loans get sold to them. As far as I know, they are strong and weren't one of the banks on the brink of collapse during the recent recession.

FlyingToFly
Nov 6, 09, 1:51 pm
True, BA has some different sweet spots than the typical US program, but if I'm approved I look at it like this: would I buy 100k BA for $75 + 2000 Starpoints? Heck yeah! :cool:

100k BA = $75 + 2000 SPG? How does that work? Please forgive me if I missed the instructions on a previous page.

x8mrxjohn8x
Nov 6, 09, 1:53 pm
First time posting, but long time reader.

If you merge your account, for example, merge 3 people's account into one and cancel 2 of them, would the 2 lose the 200,000 points, or would it remain in the account?

FlyingToFly
Nov 6, 09, 1:57 pm
First time posting, but long time reader.

If you merge your account, for example, merge 3 people's account into one and cancel 2 of them, would the 2 lose the 200,000 points, or would it remain in the account?

Why would you want to cancel the 2 accounts? If you are adding your spouse or child, you may simply leave the accounts dormant until they come in handy at a future date.

GUWonder
Nov 6, 09, 1:57 pm
Great. Now to figure out how many miles it takes to go DEL-BKK on CX. I poked around the redemption part of BA's website but it wasn't all that straightforward. Kept routing me through LHR.

40k in coach, 80k in business roundtrip IIRC -- it's not the way I would consider using them.

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 2:00 pm
100k BA = $75 + 2000 SPG? How does that work? Please forgive me if I missed the instructions on a previous page.

That was in response to an earlier question of what 100,000 BA miles is worth...somewhat suggesting that 100,000 miles on a different carrier would be worth more.

I'm basically saying that I don't know much about BA beyond what I've read on FT, but I'm happy to pay one annual fee and direct $2,000 of spending onto this card to find out. :)

Even if I later learn that these miles are hard to use and the taxes associated with them are high, I still didn't risk much to get them. Worst case: they get redeemed for two lousy coach tickets to Manchester in an off-peak month...

x8mrxjohn8x
Nov 6, 09, 2:00 pm
I was planning on canceling so I wouldn't have to pay the $75 annual fees after the first year.

pinniped
Nov 6, 09, 2:03 pm
I was planning on canceling so I wouldn't have to pay the $75 annual fees after the first year.

Usually, the biggest bonus offers hit you upfront with an annual fee. I know Amex hit me with $75 or $85 on Day 1 when I was starting that $10k for 75k DL run.

If this one effectively waives that until the 12-month mark, the offer is even juicier than I previously thought. @:-)

IMH
Nov 6, 09, 2:06 pm
If you merge your account, for example, merge 3 people's account into one and cancel 2 of them, would the 2 lose the 200,000 points, or would it remain in the account?

You can't "merge" accounts belonging to different people. You can link them to form a household account. The individual accounts continue to exist. Closing one of them with miles in it would mean forfeiting those miles. For more details:

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecterms/public/en_us

Scroll down to Section 16, Household Accounts

yanxfann
Nov 6, 09, 2:06 pm
Yup, just wait until this hits FatWallet! A matter of minutes. Yikes!

A bit off topic but since FW was mentioned I want to give my two cents worth: As a longtime user of FT I guess I got spoiled a bit as to how civil and polite this place normally is. My experience with FatWallet was the complete opposite, I generally view it as being it as being rude and vicious - basically a complete downer. I refuse to even look at FT anymore as any genuinely good deal that's posted there is almost guaranteed to also be posted on SlickDeals and I've found the people on SD to be much nicer to deal with.

x8mrxjohn8x
Nov 6, 09, 2:07 pm
Thanks

iahphx
Nov 6, 09, 2:11 pm
I guess the first thing is getting approved. Citi is suddenly denying folks credit cards for little or no reason, so we'll see with Chase. I don't think I or my wife have applied for any type of card with them in the past year, so I'd guess we'll be OK.

Once we get the cards, it seems like a no-brainer to spend the $2k. There seem to be plenty of opportunties to earn good rewards without having to pay BA's crazy fuel surcharges.

The next question becomes whether to shoot for the 30k spend for the companion ticket. I'm currently thinking "no." First, as I understand it, the companion ticket is only good on BA metal -- which means you have to pay the nasty surcharges. So the "free" ticket is going to cost at least a couple hundred dollars, right? Also, I don't know about you guys, but 30k would be the vast majority of my household's credit card spending in a year. Other than hauling coins to the bank, is there any practical way to get this spend without, um, spending the 30k? I hear rumors that there are other strategies.

Astrophsx
Nov 6, 09, 2:13 pm
I was wondering if you can upgrade from a Platinum Chase Visa to the BA card? This way there might not be a pull on your credit?

I had talked to a CSR from Amex one time about going from a regular amex to the Delta gold card vs. Delta gold card to Delta Platinum, and they said neither had a hard pull on your credit, that they were considered upgrades since you would be paying a yearly fee.

gpapadop
Nov 6, 09, 2:15 pm
I got a Chase Sony Card on 11/5/09 & a Continental CC on 10/20/09 (along with two Continental debit cards linked to two new Continental Chase checking accounts). So, to continue my perfect cc streak, do I apply for this one now?

Will this have any effect on my regular Citibank AA cc churning? (so far so good there, but starting to get worried).

FlyingToFly
Nov 6, 09, 2:16 pm
If a large number of people get approved for this offer, it may be extremely difficult to snag award seats in the coming year.

josephstern
Nov 6, 09, 2:17 pm
If a large number of people get approved for this offer, it may be extremely difficult to snag award seats in the coming year.

Probably true on BA, but by the time you get to the partner level, I doubt you'd be able to notice the difference.

pgary
Nov 6, 09, 2:19 pm
Although I have way too many miles on other airlines, this deal appears to be great, but only if I can store the miles for awhile just in case I might have future use for them. So, what is British Air's miles expiration policy?

Thanks..

abcx
Nov 6, 09, 2:22 pm
Although I have way too many miles on other airlines, this deal appears to be great, but only if I can store the miles for awhile just in case I might have future use for them. So, what is British Air's miles expiration policy?

Thanks..

3 years.

mikeef
Nov 6, 09, 2:22 pm
Once we get the cards, it seems like a no-brainer to spend the $2k.


Is it Unamerican to buy Presidential coins with a British Airways cc? :D

Mike

pgary
Nov 6, 09, 2:28 pm
3 years.

Is that three years from the posting of miles, or three years from an activity on the account (like the policies of U.S. based airlines)?

Thanks.

IMH
Nov 6, 09, 3:02 pm
Is that three years from the posting of miles, or three years from an activity on the account (like the policies of U.S. based airlines)?

Three years from activity:

12.3. If a Member has not earned or redeemed Mileage for 36 consecutive months, all Mileage that has accrued to that date will expire.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecterms/public/en_us

mia
Nov 6, 09, 3:18 pm
100k BA = $75 + 2000 SPG? How does that work?

I understand the reference to mean diverting $2,000 spending from Starwood American Express card to BA VISA.

jk1joel
Nov 6, 09, 3:37 pm
Does anybody know how strict Chase is about hard pulls? I have 7 in the last 12 months of which 4 are in the last 6 months. It seems like Citi's policy (while somewhat YMMV) is well known - 7 hard pulls in the last 6 months, but I don't know about Chase.

broadwayblue
Nov 6, 09, 3:39 pm
Just read the thread...considering taking the plunge. Being that I am not currently a member of BA's FF program do I need to sign up for an account first, or will they create one for me when I apply for the card. Thanks.

Thunderroad
Nov 6, 09, 3:45 pm
I believe there's some language in the offer (or somewhere) to the effect that non-members can't sign up for the cc offer until Nov. 16. But it takes five minutes to become a member of the BA exec club and get the membership number; then you can apply online for the card.

If you wait until after Nov. 16, I'm pretty sure you get a BA # automatically assigned to you, but perhaps others can confirm.

jdrumm95
Nov 6, 09, 3:45 pm
Does anybody know how strict Chase is about hard pulls? I have 7 in the last 12 months of which 4 are in the last 6 months. It seems like Citi's policy (while somewhat YMMV) is well known - 7 hard pulls in the last 6 months, but I don't know about Chase.

Read the thread, this has been addressed about 10 times already

jdrumm95
Nov 6, 09, 3:47 pm
I believe there's some language in the offer (or somewhere) to the effect that non-members can't sign up for the cc offer until Nov. 16. But it takes five minutes to become a member of the BA exec club and get the membership number; then you can apply online for the card.

It allowed me to sign up and stated if I didn't have a membership one would be created upon approval of the card

broadwayblue
Nov 6, 09, 3:47 pm
I believe there's some language in the offer (or somewhere) to the effect that non-members can't sign up for the cc offer until Nov. 16. But it takes five minutes to become a member of the BA exec club and get the membership number; then you can apply online for the card.

Gotcha, thanks.

luv2ctheworld
Nov 6, 09, 3:49 pm
With the amount of traffic and probable applications Chase is going to get from this offer, I'm thinking they can be pretty selective with whom they will give a credit card to... and I wonder how this impacts BA's redemption chances now that so many free miles are being offered per person.

jk1joel
Nov 6, 09, 3:54 pm
Read the thread, this has been addressed about 10 times already

Care to point me to the 10 posts in this thread that address this? I saw zero. I read the whole thing before I asked, and I just re-read it again, and while I see people talking about whether or not it is worth a pull, I didn't see anyone answering my question (which is how many pulls Chase allows before a denial). I googled it too, but 10 minutes of googling turned nothing up.

eireman
Nov 6, 09, 4:39 pm
I know early on folks were wondering what was the deadline for this application.

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but FYI, it is Nov 30,2009

jumpdogjump
Nov 6, 09, 5:32 pm
...and where's the matching 100k Business card application? :D
Just admit it, you were all thinking the same thing.

QL_714
Nov 6, 09, 6:01 pm
Yup, just wait until this hits FatWallet! A matter of minutes. Yikes!Now you know how FW felt when the coin thread hit here!!!:D
Can't we all just get along!!!

Thunderroad
Nov 6, 09, 7:16 pm
I know early on folks were wondering what was the deadline for this application.

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but FYI, it is Nov 30,2009

Wow. That's a pretty small window of opportunity. I guess this offer has something to do with BA generating some short-term revenue out of selling miles to Chase????

philemer
Nov 6, 09, 7:21 pm
Does anybody know how strict Chase is about hard pulls? I have 7 in the last 12 months of which 4 are in the last 6 months. It seems like Citi's policy (while somewhat YMMV) is well known - 7 hard pulls in the last 6 months, but I don't know about Chase.

I don't think Chase has a set policy like CITI but that's a guess. I was turned down for a Chase Marriott card in 2008 shortly after I had applied for, and received, my third Chase branded card w/in two months. Their reason was that I had applied for too many Chase cards. No mention of total number of pulls (I had 5 or 6 hard pulls in the two months before I was denied).

You can probably find more info on Chase by searching on the "Other Credit Card Programs" forum.

jdrumm95
Nov 6, 09, 7:35 pm
Care to point me to the 10 posts in this thread that address this? I saw zero. I read the whole thing before I asked, and I just re-read it again, and while I see people talking about whether or not it is worth a pull, I didn't see anyone answering my question (which is how many pulls Chase allows before a denial). I googled it too, but 10 minutes of googling turned nothing up.

My apologies, guess different forums running together, apparently I must have read that on another forum.

According to it less than 7 hard pulls in last 6 - 8 months should be ok

tanzaniancane
Nov 6, 09, 8:54 pm
This might be one of the sillier questions I have asked on this board. How does one find out their BAEC number? I have a BA Exec Club account from a couple of years ago. I have my email login and can log in with no problem but cannot see my number anywhere. I searched my email as well and none of my BA emails have the number either... Can someone please help? :eek:

Middle_Seat
Nov 6, 09, 10:10 pm
... How does one find out their BAEC number? I have a BA Exec Club account from a couple of years ago....
Call them on the phone?

tpat
Nov 6, 09, 10:18 pm
I know early on folks were wondering what was the deadline for this application.

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but FYI, it is Nov 30,2009

Could you please show us where this deadline is stated? Thanks.

ffI
Nov 6, 09, 11:28 pm
It works ONLY in conjunction with an award ticket. It's 2 award tickets for the price of one. ^

For this alone gleff, you get my vote for talkboard!^:p

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 12:16 am
I was wondering if you can upgrade from a Platinum Chase Visa to the BA card? This way there might not be a pull on your credit?

I had talked to a CSR from Amex one time about going from a regular amex to the Delta gold card vs. Delta gold card to Delta Platinum, and they said neither had a hard pull on your credit, that they were considered upgrades since you would be paying a yearly fee.

I'm sure you could convert Platinum Visa to a BA co-branded card but would you get the bonus miles? If you try this approach with Chase, please report back as to what they say. Thanks.

kay_jay
Nov 7, 09, 2:24 am
A bit off topic but since FW was mentioned I want to give my two cents worth: As a longtime user of FT I guess I got spoiled a bit as to how civil and polite this place normally is. My experience with FatWallet was the complete opposite, I generally view it as being it as being rude and vicious - basically a complete downer. I refuse to even look at FT anymore as any genuinely good deal that's posted there is almost guaranteed to also be posted on SlickDeals and I've found the people on SD to be much nicer to deal with.

I completely agree with that. Fatwallet is totally rude, esp. In the travel and finance forum. They think they know everything and they also think by acting rude, they control the newbies. No wonder SD got popular than FW in the last few years. Sorry FW we don't ignore you, but we don't post anything, we are silent observers.

zink88
Nov 7, 09, 8:13 am
I've never earned/used BA miles. My wife and I have earned a ton of AA miles from Citi credit card churns over the last 18 months and already have two major trips planned next year.

This looks like an offer too good to refuse, but I don't see us using the miles for more than a year from now. Since the window to get in on this appears to be limited, what is the Chase/BA policy if we open the card accounts, earn the 100,000 miles each and then close the card accounts 11 months later to avoid the following year fees? Will we lose the 200,000 BA miles similar to how Citi takes away unused TYP if you close the affiliated credit card?

If so, is there a no fee Chase card tied into BA that we could switch to at the end of the first year to keep from losing the miles?

freeflyin
Nov 7, 09, 8:40 am
Does anybody know how strict Chase is about hard pulls? I have 7 in the last 12 months of which 4 are in the last 6 months. It seems like Citi's policy (while somewhat YMMV) is well known - 7 hard pulls in the last 6 months, but I don't know about Chase.


I don't know if they have a fixed number of pulls allowed,but I am sure they are tightening their requirements.

I was recently rejected for a Citi card after churning for the last year or so. Last week I applied for a Chase card and did not get instant approval for the first time and 10 days later it is not showing on my profile yet. I am assuming i will be getting a rejection letter in the mail on this one.

As a data point, my FICO is in the 800 range and utilization is below 10%.

This BA offer almost looks too good to be true,but I am not going to try..it's not worth another pull,since I am sure I will not be approved.

christianj
Nov 7, 09, 8:47 am
Could you please show us where this deadline is stated? Thanks.
Not sure where the other poster saw the date but it was listed on the email I got from BA announcing the CC.

Here' a cut and paste of the actual terminology from the email:
Apply today.
Your application will be pre-populated with your name and address for your convenience.. Apply before November 30, 2009, to take advantage of this amazing opportunity to earn enough BA Miles for 2 transatlantic reward flights.

Speculation on the BA board is that this deal is happening to generate some short term cash by selling miles to Chase at a low price since BA just posted bad results. This would explain the short application window.

I also anticipate that a lot of people that might apply for this card will actually not get it. The application and offer specifically give Chase/BA a way out by saying you may get the Plat. Card if you do not qualify for this offer. With credit as tight as it is, I think they will be pretty selective and that will upset those rejected and cause lots of complaining to follow in this thread.

dustenm
Nov 7, 09, 9:57 am
Does anyone know how hard it is to just get a ticket within the USA using these miles?

beachmiles
Nov 7, 09, 10:02 am
Since the window to get in on this appears to be limited, what is the Chase/BA policy if we open the card accounts, earn the 100,000 miles each and then close the card accounts 11 months later to avoid the following year fees? Will we lose the 200,000 BA miles similar to how Citi takes away unused TYP if you close the affiliated credit card?

?

I have closed a lot of Citi Cards, and they have not taken away the TYP>

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 10:17 am
Not sure where the other poster saw the date but it was listed on the email I got from BA announcing the CC.

Here' a cut and paste of the actual terminology from the email:
Apply today.
Your application will be pre-populated with your name and address for your convenience.. Apply before November 30, 2009, to take advantage of this amazing opportunity to earn enough BA Miles for 2 transatlantic reward flights.

Speculation on the BA board is that this deal is happening to generate some short term cash by selling miles to Chase at a low price since BA just posted bad results. This would explain the short application window.

I also anticipate that a lot of people that might apply for this card will actually not get it. The application and offer specifically give Chase/BA a way out by saying you may get the Plat. Card if you do not qualify for this offer. With credit as tight as it is, I think they will be pretty selective and that will upset those rejected and cause lots of complaining to follow in this thread.


The fees and benefits may differ from the Visa Signature Card and the Platinum Card but the bonus miles offered in conjunction with this offer appear to be the same across the board. So it doesn't matter which card you get, you should get the miles.

If Chase pulls a fast one and declines you for the BA Visa Signature Card and approves you for a non BA co-branded card, you wouldn't get the miles.

However in the fine print it says: "You will first be considered for a Visa Signature card. If you do not qualify for that product, you will automatically be considered for a Visa Platinum card, which has different fees, benefits, and credit availability. For pricing details, please see Pricing & Terms. For benefits details, please read your credit card benefits materials which will be mailed after your account is established."

If this section said BA Visa Signature card and Visa Platinum card (without the BA designation) I could see some concern.

The language that bothers me is in the Pricing & Fees that says. "Replying to this offer: If you omit any information on the form, we may deny your request for an account. If applicable, Chase cardmembers who currently have or have had a Chase credit card in any Rewards Program associated with this offer or have received a similar bonus offer, may not be eligible for a second Chase credit card in the same Rewards Program, or for any bonus offer. Chase cardmembers currently receiving promotional pricing, or Chase cardmembers with a history of only using their current or prior Chase card for promotional pricing offers, are not eligible for a second Chase credit card with promotional pricing. You must have a valid permanent home address within the 50 United States or the District of Columbia. The information about the costs of the card described in this form is accurate as of 12/22/2008. This information may have changed after that date. To find out what may have changed, write to us at Cardmember Service, P.O. Box 15043, Wilmington, DE 19850-5043."


This exclusionary clause isn't new but it sounds like it's aimed at UA Card churners (not guilty) or 0% BT'ers (big time guilty).

The bottom line is, Chase can deny you credit for any reason and you can stop doing business with Chase anytime you please. (I don't mean you in particular, I mean customers in general :p)

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 10:27 am
Does anyone know how hard it is to just get a ticket within the USA using these miles?


Try for yourself. Go here (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecspendlanding/public/en_us) and click on "Make award booking" then log into your BAEC account.

Choose some dates, and cities and search. On the next page you'll get a message that says:British Airways does not fly all or part of this route. Your options are:

Select another route
Include our partners in the availability search

Click on "include partners"

You should be able to search different time frames to get an idea of availability to the destinations you are interested in.

teammjs
Nov 7, 09, 12:50 pm
OK, for the impatient (like me), here's an auto application status to check the application status:

800-945-2006

then press #, the 1, then enter your SSN.

What's interesting, is that on two family aps done yesterday, one message says "you'll receive a letter in 7-10 days" and the other says "we will notify you in writing in 14 days". Makes me wonder if their is a preliminary bias, and one's good and the other isn't!


My experience with Chase having used this number for several 0% APR cards in the past, is they will update the status as soon as it's known, so call every day and you don't need to talk to a human.

Please note what the SPECIFIC message says during review, and let us know if you get the card or rejected later, so we can get some data points.

NOTE: I started her ten years ago, then migrated most of my time to FW Finance. I absolutely agree, this place is nicer LOL!

Roberteyewhy
Nov 7, 09, 12:53 pm
Correct me if I am wrong. If I am approved for this offer and I fulfill the requirements I would, if available, be able to fly FROM HI to the continental US via AA?

Thanks,
Robert

broadwayblue
Nov 7, 09, 1:00 pm
Correct me if I am wrong. If I am approved for this offer and I fulfill the requirements I would, if available, be able to fly FROM HI to the continental US via AA?

Thanks,
Robert

Yes, AA is a OneWorld member and therefore you can use BA miles to fly on that route with AA metal.

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 1:08 pm
Correct me if I am wrong. If I am approved for this offer and I fulfill the requirements I would, if available, be able to fly FROM HI to the continental US via AA?

Thanks,
Robert

Yes.

35k miles Coach
105k miles First

pjpoker
Nov 7, 09, 1:17 pm
I got the "We will contact you in writing in approximately 2 weeks"
I have about a 750 credit score last I checked...no problem getting Amex Gold Rewards or Platinum Rewards for me, but last Chase card I applied for I got a letter asking me to send something into them for further review so I just trashed it.

OK, for the impatient (like me), here's an auto application status to check the application status:

800-945-2006

then press #, the 1, then enter your SSN.

What's interesting, is that on two family aps done yesterday, one message says "you'll receive a letter in 7-10 days" and the other says "we will notify you in writing in 14 days". Makes me wonder if their is a preliminary bias, and one's good and the other isn't!


My experience with Chase having used this number for several 0% APR cards in the past, is they will update the status as soon as it's known, so call every day and you don't need to talk to a human.

Please note what the SPECIFIC message says during review, and let us know if you get the card or rejected later, so we can get some data points.

NOTE: I started her ten years ago, then migrated most of my time to FW Finance. I absolutely agree, this place is nicer LOL!

Roberteyewhy
Nov 7, 09, 1:18 pm
Thanks broadwayblue and RedSox.:)

abcx
Nov 7, 09, 1:19 pm
I got 7-10 biz days.

broadwayblue
Nov 7, 09, 1:19 pm
Yes.

35k miles Coach
105k miles First

Wow, pretty crappy deal for First. Far better value with AA miles (45 Coach/75 First.) I've flown up front with AA to Hawaii several times, and while NGBC is nice, I certainly don't think it's worth 3 times the miles. Guess the secret is to be aware of the various redemption requirements among the partners and book accordingly.

Roberteyewhy
Nov 7, 09, 1:21 pm
Wow, pretty crappy deal for First. Far better value with AA miles (45 Coach/75 First.) I've flown up front with AA to Hawaii several times, and while NGBC is nice, I certainly don't think it's worth 3 times the miles. Guess the secret is to be aware of the various redemption requirements among the various partners and book accordingly.

I was thinking the same thing! Triple the amount for First.:eek:

Roberteyewhy
Nov 7, 09, 1:33 pm
Another question. Is anyone using the "Do you have a Chase online User ID and Password?" or just filling out the app? Which would give a better chance of receiving an approval or does it not matter?

Thanks,
Robert

abcx
Nov 7, 09, 1:34 pm
Try for yourself. Go here (http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ecspendlanding/public/en_us) and click on "Make award booking" then log into your BAEC account.

Choose some dates, and cities and search. On the next page you'll get a message that says:British Airways does not fly all or part of this route. Your options are:

Select another route
Include our partners in the availability search

Click on "include partners"

You should be able to search different time frames to get an idea of availability to the destinations you are interested in.

Does BA filter partner availability or is it just that the site doesn't show all availability? I am looking for some award tickets from SFO to ANC on AS.

guv1976
Nov 7, 09, 1:36 pm
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Wow, pretty crappy deal for First. Far better value with AA miles (45 Coach/75 First.) I've flown up front with AA to Hawaii several times, and while NGBC is nice, I certainly don't think it's worth 3 times the miles. Guess the secret is to be aware of the various redemption requirements among the various partners and book accordingly.

I was thinking the same thing! Triple the amount for First.:eek:

Stay tuned. I've posted a question in the BA forum for the BAEC rep to tell us whether first class on a two-cabin AA aircraft counts as first class or business class for BAEC redemption purposes. I've also asked about the number of stopovers permitted for award travel on a partner carrier.

jimbous
Nov 7, 09, 2:09 pm
From reading here it seems that the best value of these miles is domestic US/North America travel, if you live there.

Isn't that the case?

If you get hit with $300-$400 in BA fees for a $600-$700 economy round trip to Europe plus the CC annual fee it makes more sense to go domestic.

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 2:14 pm
Does BA filter partner availability or is it just that the site doesn't show all availability? I am looking for some award tickets from SFO to ANC on AS.

Not sure. Maybe ask in the BA forum.

Are you getting this?

"British Airways and its partners do not fly this route. Please consider alternative destinations or call your Executive Club Service Centre."

I think you need to call the BAEC desk to book. Sorry I can't answer that one for you.

abcx
Nov 7, 09, 2:16 pm
Not sure. Maybe ask in the BA forum.

Are you getting this?

"British Airways and its partners do not fly this route. Please consider alternative destinations or call your Executive Club Service Centre."

I think you need to call the BAEC desk to book. Sorry I can't answer that one for you.

No, I just get no availability. Apparently, there are two booking engines on BA's site. One of them gives you this. The other one, linked earlier in this thread, looks for availability, but it doesn't match the partner's own availability. I was checking for AS as mentioned.

PhilC
Nov 7, 09, 3:24 pm
Does BA filter partner availability or is it just that the site doesn't show all availability? I am looking for some award tickets from SFO to ANC on AS.

Which airline partners can be booked on ba.com?
All the oneworld carriers are available to book on ba.com. They are American Airlines, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, Malev, Finnair, JAL including JAL affiliates, Royal Jordanian and LAN including LAN affiliates.
For bookings on Alaskan Airlines please contact your local Executive Club Service Centre.

Mr. Bean
Nov 7, 09, 3:27 pm
No, I just get no availability. Apparently, there are two booking engines on BA's site. One of them gives you this. The other one, linked earlier in this thread, looks for availability, but it doesn't match the partner's own availability. I was checking for AS as mentioned.

You could also redeem for JFK-YVR on CX for 25K :D

iahphx
Nov 7, 09, 3:39 pm
I also anticipate that a lot of people that might apply for this card will actually not get it. The application and offer specifically give Chase/BA a way out by saying you may get the Plat. Card if you do not qualify for this offer. With credit as tight as it is, I think they will be pretty selective and that will upset those rejected and cause lots of complaining to follow in this thread.

Yeah, if the banks start rejecting people who have never been rejected before -- and who have always paid their bills on time and are not deep in debt -- there's going to be complaining. As there should be.

It's one thing to limit bonuses, but to arbitrarily reject perfectly good applicants is another.

zink88
Nov 7, 09, 3:45 pm
I have closed a lot of Citi Cards, and they have not taken away the TYP>

Not to get this thread off topic, but my wife lost her unused TYP when she closed her Citi Platinum Amex card to avoid the $125 fee after the first year. It wasn't much (~ 3000) and the TYP she had earned in her account from Citi checking accounts remain (those checking accounts are still open). I figured she lost the TYP associated with the credit card because she no longer had ANY Citi card tied to TYP.

We've churned numerous AA linked Citicards over the past 18 months and have never lost any AA miles, but we've always had at least one card open with Citi that earns AA miles.

Back to my original question, is there any reason to be concerned about losing BA miles if we don't use them within the first year and close the Chase cards after ~ 11 months if we don't have ANY other Chase cards tied to BA?

jdrumm95
Nov 7, 09, 3:48 pm
OK, for the impatient (like me), here's an auto application status to check the application status:

800-945-2006

then press #, the 1, then enter your SSN.

What's interesting, is that on two family aps done yesterday, one message says "you'll receive a letter in 7-10 days" and the other says "we will notify you in writing in 14 days". Makes me wonder if their is a preliminary bias, and one's good and the other isn't!



we will notify you in writing within 2 weeks

I have a feeling that with the deluge of applications they are receiving for this offer this may be standard answer. So far in multiple forums I haven't seen anyone so far say they got an instant approval

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 4:03 pm
Not to get this thread off topic, but my wife lost her unused TYP when she closed her Citi Platinum Amex card to avoid the $125 fee after the first year. It wasn't much (~ 3000) and the TYP she had earned in her account from Citi checking accounts remain (those checking accounts are still open). I figured she lost the TYP associated with the credit card because she no longer had ANY Citi card tied to TYP.

We've churned numerous AA linked Citicards over the past 18 months and have never lost any AA miles, but we've always had at least one card open with Citi that earns AA miles.

Back to my original question, is there any reason to be concerned about losing BA miles if we don't use them within the first year and close the Chase cards after ~ 11 months if we don't have ANY other Chase cards tied to BA?

Once the miles are in your BAEC account they are out of Chase's control and they can't pull them out because you canceled your card. It's not like AMEX MR or Citi TYP where the controlling agent is the card issuer.

kay_jay
Nov 7, 09, 5:17 pm
We are in the process of buying a new house and my friends say applying for a credit card will hurt the credit score. Is that true? What are the advantages/disadvantages?
This card is very tempting though.

Mr. Bean
Nov 7, 09, 5:41 pm
we will notify you in writing within 2 weeks

I have a feeling that with the deluge of applications they are receiving for this offer this may be standard answer. So far in multiple forums I haven't seen anyone so far say they got an instant approval

"in about two weeks" is what I got.

jack5432
Nov 7, 09, 6:43 pm
Hi, I'm new here (read about this on slickdeals :) )

Simple question I have (I keep reading mixed things about this). I hope someone can clarify:
If I don't have a British Airways miles account, do I have to wait until Nov.16 to apply for the card offer? Or can I just sign up now for the BA miles account (therefore, I'm now a member) and apply for the card?

I've read both ways. If I can apply now (which I actually read in this thread), then why would anyone have to wait until Nov. 16 for anything? :confused:

thanks for clarifying!

Happy
Nov 7, 09, 7:22 pm
Once the miles are in your BAEC account they are out of Chase's control and they can't pull them out because you canceled your card. It's not like AMEX MR or Citi TYP where the controlling agent is the card issuer.

Not always true with Chase Affinity Cards. Chase has taken UA bonus away from UA account several months after awarding it, because the UA card is cancelled before 6 months have passed.

So reading the fine prints in the T&C is a must.

markf57
Nov 7, 09, 7:27 pm
In reading the BA site and using the miles calculator, I find reference to the term, "Prices are based on return journey". Do I assume that means, "round trip" in US vernacular? So a round trip economy is 50k points (plus fees) from US to zone 1? Does that also mean that a round trip on AA from US to Hawaii is 35K points for economy? And a round trip domestic AA is 25K points?

ingy
Nov 7, 09, 7:34 pm
Hi, I'm new here (read about this on slickdeals :) )

Simple question I have (I keep reading mixed things about this). I hope someone can clarify:
If I don't have a British Airways miles account, do I have to wait until Nov.16 to apply for the card offer? Or can I just sign up now for the BA miles account (therefore, I'm now a member) and apply for the card?

I've read both ways. If I can apply now (which I actually read in this thread), then why would anyone have to wait until Nov. 16 for anything? :confused:

thanks for clarifying!

After reading the terms and conditions of the offer page, there is no mention of waiting for the 16th of November. It says simply if you are not a member they will enroll you.

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 7:36 pm
We are in the process of buying a new house and my friends say applying for a credit card will hurt the credit score. Is that true? What are the advantages/disadvantages?
This card is very tempting though.

Advantage: 100k BA FF miles.^
Disadvantage: Bank/Mortgage Lender may not give you a loan.:td:

Your friend is correct that applying for additional credit will lower your FiCo score. Credit scores are pretty dynamic, relying on debt, repayment history, etc. Lenders don't like to see potential borrowers applying for additional credit before they give them a mortgage.

Under normal circumstances, you can expect to see <10 point drop in your FiCo score and it's not a big deal. You however are buying a house. My advise to you, wait until after you close on your house and apply for this card the next day if you really want it.

rrgg
Nov 7, 09, 7:41 pm
Stay tuned. I've posted a question in the BA forum for the BAEC rep to tell us whether first class on a two-cabin AA aircraft counts as first class or business class for BAEC redemption purposes.AA releases these award seats as Z just like other first awards. Since BA has to book into the same system, I'm not sure how they could do what you suggest even if they wanted to?

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 7:41 pm
In reading the BA site and using the miles calculator, I find reference to the term, "Prices are based on return journey". Do I assume that means, "round trip" in US vernacular? So a round trip economy is 50k points (plus fees) from US to zone 1? Does that also mean that a round trip on AA from US to Hawaii is 35K points for economy? And a round trip domestic AA is 25K points?

Return Journey= Round Trip

Your other numbers are correct for award redemption.

Multiply x1.5 for PE, x2 for Business x3 for First.

jack5432
Nov 7, 09, 7:54 pm
After reading the terms and conditions of the offer page, there is no mention of waiting for the 16th of November. It says simply if you are not a member they will enroll you.

Thanks for the clarification! :) That's what I figured, it just makes the whole "only members can apply befor Nov.16" line irrelevant. I just applied! (now to wait 14 days)

Happy
Nov 7, 09, 7:58 pm
...unfortunately AA does not offer awards to Alaska (at least on their website) which I have found offer the best redemption value for domestic awards.

AA does fly to ANC from DFW. May be it has become a seasonal service - therefore you are not able to find it now.

jzafar
Nov 7, 09, 8:04 pm
I had the British Airways Visa in 2006 and canceled in 2007. Does anyone know if I will be able to get the 100,000 if I get another card now?

thanks.

RedSox
Nov 7, 09, 8:35 pm
I had the British Airways Visa in 2006 and canceled in 2007. Does anyone know if I will be able to get the 100,000 if I get another card now?

thanks.

The Chase T&C say no, but YMMV.

guv1976
Nov 7, 09, 10:04 pm
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Stay tuned. I've posted a question in the BA forum for the BAEC rep to tell us whether first class on a two-cabin AA aircraft counts as first class or business class for BAEC redemption purposes.AA releases these award seats as Z just like other first awards. Since BA has to book into the same system, I'm not sure how they could do what you suggest even if they wanted to?

I'm thinking you are correct. I finally broke down and enrolled in BAEC today to try some test bookings. DFW-SNA in F came up as 75,000 miles roundtrip, and LAX-HNL in F came up as 105,000 miles. So it appears that BAEC treats AA F as F, even on two-class aircraft. It's a shame, especially since AA treats two-class F as the equivalent of J for AAdvantage award redemption, as well as for oneworld redemption. But obviously BAEC is free to set its own redemption policies. If only we could convince AA to denominate its premium cabins on domestic two-class aircraft as J instead of F. :)

broadwayblue
Nov 7, 09, 10:39 pm
quick question...are there easy ways to get activity on your BA account? in the event i won't be able to redeem these 100k miles in the next 3 years i was wondering if you can do something equivalent to redeeming a magazine subscription to extend the expiration date.

gpapadop
Nov 7, 09, 10:39 pm
Just applied for me and Chase will be sending me a response via US Mail within 15 days...on the website.

In my email it says:

Your credit card application has been received and we will be sending you a response via U.S. Mail within 15 to 30 days.



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