Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners) - Face to fave with a non-rev in the jump seat for 12 hours - acceptable?




ivoryboi
Nov 3, 09, 2:46 pm
Hi,

I am writing on behalf of my partner who flew yesterday FRA-BKK. We are both UA 1K members and *A gold and fly LH infrequently.

Yesterday, he asked and was given an emergency exit aisle seat and was appreciative. Right before boarding a non-revenue employee was seated in the jump seat directly opposite, face to face and knee to knee for the entire 12+ hour flight, making for a very uncomfortable trip.

Is this common practice on LH? Does this sound acceptable, or is it even allowed?

I would appreciate any comments on how to address this with LH.

Many thanks!
:)


Rambuster
Nov 3, 09, 3:05 pm
Sounds very strange indeed !
Looks like they were once again completely oversold...
I'd write to LH asking for an explanation?

Olip
Nov 3, 09, 3:43 pm
Where exactly was that seat? Which row and Y, C or F?

I don't think that there are any crew seats on a LH 744 that close to the passenger that it would be "knee to knee" and uncomfortable.


sentom
Nov 3, 09, 4:51 pm
I don't think that there are any crew seats on a LH 744 that close to the passenger that it would be "knee to knee" and uncomfortable.

in C and F i think its impossible, in Y both pax would have to be extremely tall...

DownUnderFlyer
Nov 3, 09, 6:56 pm
in C and F i think its impossible, in Y both pax would have to be extremely tall...

Maybe not knee to knee but even in F I would find it uncomfortable if someone would be looking at me all the time. If I'd like such a thing I'd fly BA.

mamb0
Nov 3, 09, 9:18 pm
Maybe not knee to knee but even in F I would find it uncomfortable if someone would be looking at me all the time. If I'd like such a thing I'd fly BA.

or BAhn

Felixberlin
Nov 3, 09, 9:27 pm
Hi,

I am writing on behalf of my partner who flew yesterday FRA-BKK. We are both UA 1K members and *A gold and fly LH infrequently.

Yesterday, he asked and was given an emergency exit aisle seat and was appreciative. Right before boarding a non-revenue employee was seated in the jump seat directly opposite, face to face and knee to knee for the entire 12+ hour flight, making for a very uncomfortable trip.

Is this common practice on LH? Does this sound acceptable, or is it even allowed?

I would appreciate any comments on how to address this with LH.

Many thanks!
:)

In my memory there is a decent amount of space between the exit row and the jumpseat and while it may be irritating to have somebody staring at you, on a nightflight I wouldn't mind too much.

Think of it that way: This seat certainly still was preferable to about 300 others on the same flight ^

(And to put things into perspective: As a *G on UA I got adapted to expect nothing, considering myself happy if not being squeezed into a middle seat)

vbroucek
Nov 3, 09, 9:37 pm
Think of it that way: This seat certainly still was preferable to about 300 others on the same flight ^


I will second this opinion, although I have now got used to C and F and do not remember how much space there is...;)

vbroucek
Nov 3, 09, 9:38 pm
or BAhn

Or C class on the new UA 744 config... That was the ONLY thing my wife and I did not like - people basically facing us all the time...

heramato
Nov 3, 09, 9:42 pm
Maybe not knee to knee but even in F I would find it uncomfortable if someone would be looking at me all the time. If I'd like such a thing I'd fly BA.

:D

weero
Nov 3, 09, 11:49 pm
..We are both UA 1K members and *A gold and fly LH infrequently...
If that wasn't a strong hint to keep it that way ;) ...

Sounds like something LH would do. My last longhaul in LH Y is a decent while ago but I still remember it vividly. First I was taken away my exit row seat for "someone who needs it for medical reason" :rolleyes: and then the last minute - probably by the hands of the same malicious GA - the seatblock was overwritten and an extremely hyperactive child is squeezed next to me who I could not even yell at because neither it nor its mother did speak any language I can express myself in :( .

So I guess your partner was just really lucky.

moeve
Nov 4, 09, 2:07 am
If in Y tell him to stop griping - he was more comfortable than most others on this flight. Sorry he gets no sympathy from me.

Longlegs
Nov 4, 09, 2:51 am
He was asked before and agreed about the "emergency seat" right? So where is the problem?

erik123
Nov 4, 09, 12:32 pm
I had this once from BKK on KLM in C and I told them it wasn't acceptable - they offloaded the nonrev.

If you are paying a premium fare it is not OK in my book and the crew should have realized this - I'd ask for compensation.

azmmza
Nov 4, 09, 12:54 pm
I could not even yell at because neither it nor its mother did speak any language I can express myself in

It???

whiskey_sk
Nov 4, 09, 4:43 pm
It???

obviously he was unable/unwilling to determine the gender of the child, plus it makes no difference in the scenario described...

Ari
Nov 4, 09, 5:48 pm
Maybe not knee to knee but even in F I would find it uncomfortable if someone would be looking at me all the time. If I'd like such a thing I'd fly BA.

I think I would feel compelled to chat with that person . . . after a few minutes of that, the non-rev will wish s/he wasn't on that flight! :D

azmmza
Nov 4, 09, 7:03 pm
you could use the person in the jumpseats legs as a footrest or as a table for your laptop

im sure they would get the hint

as to the OP i would think that this is not acceptable even for a LCC let alone a major European airline

weero
Nov 5, 09, 1:00 am
It???
Yes - that jolting, noisy blob of biomass.

weero
Nov 5, 09, 1:03 am
I think I would feel compelled to chat with that person . . . after a few minutes of that, the non-rev will wish s/he wasn't on that flight! :D
I thought that too. Knee to knee with the average LH flying employee doesn't sound like punishment at all. I'd pay for that in many scenarios.
..as to the OP i would think that this is not acceptable even for a LCC let alone a major European airline
Based on? It's an exit row. With a jump seat mounted in it. I think that having a pax next to you is a bigger intrusion than what the OP's pal experienced.

Jgish
Nov 5, 09, 2:36 am
This situation would entirely depend on just whom LH has decided to park across from me ;)



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