Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners) - Status on ticket if miles credited to other FFP?
Scoojitsu
Nov 2, 09, 4:18 am
I will make SEN at the end of this year. Thinking about switching to another FFP after that.
Will my tickets/boarding passes still read SEN if I have them credit the miles to another program?
As far as I could see, this is what they look at when upgrading people. An advantage I don't wanna lose obviously. If this is a problem, can I book the tickets with my SEN number and then change it afterwards to another FFP?
I will make SEN at the end of this year. Thinking about switching to another FFP after that.
Will my tickets/boarding passes still read SEN if I have them credit the miles to another program?
As far as I could see, this is what they look at when upgrading people. An advantage I don't wanna lose obviously. If this is a problem, can I book the tickets with my SEN number and then change it afterwards to another FFP?
Theoretically you can enjoy the status of one FFP while crediting to another. In reality that holds for a few, well defined *A privileges only though, and not all agents can deal with it.
You will definitely sacrifice your mythical op-up priority. You could however wait until the very last second and then switch FFPs right there at the gate, preferably after you received such an elusive op-up.
As for boarding and seat assignment: simply do the former with your SENile card and the latter as a SEN.
You could however wait until the very last second and then switch FFPs right there at the gate, preferably after you received such an elusive op-up.
Gate agents are quite busy and reluctant to change FFP at the gate. In addition, a change will often be entered with error and no miles will post. Then you have the problem with retro credit of miles when your BP reads SEN but you are trying to collect miles at other FFP...
Sorry, but this strategy will often fail.
Rambuster
Nov 2, 09, 6:14 am
Gate agents are quite busy and reluctant to change FFP at the gate. In addition, a change will often be entered with error and no miles will post. Then you have the problem with retro credit of miles when your BP reads SEN but you are trying to collect miles at other FFP...
Sorry, but this strategy will often fail.
There is also a high risk that the miles will end up in the wrong program.
Then you have the problem with retro credit of miles when your BP reads SEN but you are trying to collect miles at other FFP...
Why should it have SEN if the FFP number was changed?
..Sorry, but this strategy will often fail.
Did you try this? I do these things all the time and had the grumpy and vicious GAs - as recently in HKG - but I always got my miles.
fradoc
Nov 2, 09, 11:12 am
Gate agents are quite busy and reluctant to change FFP at the gate. In addition, a change will often be entered with error and no miles will post. Then you have the problem with retro credit of miles when your BP reads SEN but you are trying to collect miles at other FFP...
Sorry, but this strategy will often fail.
There is also a high risk that the miles will end up in the wrong program.
The aforementioned problem forced me to take an unnecessary FRA-DUS to cross the theshold to SEN- :rolleyes: because miles were credited to UA MP.
UA has for pax profiles two status variables. One is called FQTV, the other FQTS. FQTV decides where the miles are accrued, FQTS decides about your status in the system. It is totally dependent on the agent's skills and willingness. Often they even do not know about the two status fields in their mask (FQTWT-F???).
I do not know how LH handles the issue (probably a protestant "either-or") but it is at least worth to ask. The best place to do this would be in a lounge in a quiet moment.
Starting from scratch in another FFP definitely sucks (low priority during irrops, last meal choice etc. :td:).
Scoojitsu
Nov 7, 09, 8:02 am
I have had another thought and with it a few questions.
If my goal is to be *G for as long as possible (after I stop doing flights some time in 2010 and stop earning miles b/c of that) would the following be possible?
I would do flights without any FF# given for the bookings to be able to have them retro credited to the FFP of my choice. Once I got 40k I would sign up for OZ's FFP and put in the past couple flights for retro credit.
Would my reference date be the one of the first flight I used or the one of my signup date?
To follow up on this, (as I don't know when exactly I will stop earning miles) I could start crediting the first flight to M&M when I cross the 40k threshold, keep doing this until I know the date, always keeping 40k miles of uncredited flights to be able to put them OZ when the time has come. Feasible? Anyone understand my problem at all? I know it must be confusing. :)
Thanks for your help!
..I would do flights without any FF# given for the bookings to be able to have them retro credited to the FFP of my choice...
There are generally quite a few rules which limit retrocredit. The most famour one being that you need to be a member of the FFP when you take the actual flights. So be sure to register timely with Oz. All modern databases to further time-stamp their entries and the correct human error with sweeps ... meaning that the flights will count exactly at the dates they were flown, not when you credited them. They might briefly contribute to the current status but only up to the next sweep of the system.
Guy Betsy
Nov 7, 09, 11:54 pm
There is a slight problem with the Amadeus computer in that it retains the original FFP even though a change has been made later, especially if the agent just replaces the current segment with a new FFP instead of deleting the entire FFP record of the old number.
Your BP might read another FFP but your miles might still end up with LH.