Mileage Run Discussion - (Phantom fare) CO: $6 on Fare Compare

Is this some kind of mistake?


Newark, NJ
New York-All Airports, NY
CO
YACOPFRE
$6
$48
18 miles
$2.6667
+More

I believe these are fares for U.S. Helicopter segments, which I believe ceased operations.

Maybe that's the Amtrak fare? LOL

How much is one way? $3? A little more then subway.

No matter how it works this is not MR worthy :p

266cpm

No matter how it works this is not MR worthy :p

266cpm

Whats cpm on Subway?

Amtrak is still expensive,
NJtransit sounds good..:-)

Maybe that's the Amtrak fare? LOL

can I upgrade?

Im in for 13. ^

:D

If this is a CO fare, does it count as a segment??

No matter how it works this is not MR worthy :p

266cpm

but, elites get 500 minimum and with 2x, that's 2000 for $48, roundtrip ;)

EDIT: it's a Y-fare (lol) so add bonuses for that, too

It's a Y fare, so it's obviously in coach. Or on CoachUSA bus to Newark Airport:
http://www.coachusa.com/ss.airport.asp :)

Someone can probably grab the fare rules from KVS or ExpertFlyer ? :)

If this is the subway, when I get off after 1 stop instead of taking the whole trip, is it still called a "FD"?

Someone can probably grab the fare rules from KVS or ExpertFlyer ? :)

Someone could, but there are currently no [helicopter] flights you can use with these fares:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - DotRes: NYC-EWR/CO/YACOPFRE/6 USD] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

DAY_TIME : NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

SEASONALITY : NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

FLIGHT_APPLICATION : THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO JRB
AIRPORT.
OR
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO TSS
AIRPORT.

ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : NO ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

MINIMUM_STAY : NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

MAXIMUM_STAY : NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

STOPOVERS : NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT
AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 4 HOURS.

TRANSFERS : UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED. - SURFACE AT FARE BREAK
AND EMBEDDED SECTORS PERMITTED EXCEPT FOR PRICING UNITS
WITHIN/BETWEEN US AND CANADA - INCLUDING PR/USV1 -
SURFACE AT FARE BREAK IS NOT PERMITTED.

COMBINATIONS : SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS/
MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS REQUIRED WITH CO
INTERNATIONAL/DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE NOT WITH ANY YACOPFRE/YACOPSPL
TYPE FARES.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Y-/F-/A-/C-/J- TYPE
FARES.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
EFD-HOU EFD-IAH HOU-IAH IAD-DCA LGA-JFK
MDW-ORD

BLACKOUT_DATES : NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

SURCHARGES : NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01SEP09 AND ON/
BEFORE 15JAN10.

SALES_RESTRICTIONS : FARE RULE
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE. TO PURCHASE OR
RESELL THIS TICKET FROM/TO ANY ENTITY OTHER THAN
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES INC. OR ITS AUTHORIZED AGENTS
IS NOT PERMITTED. PASSENGERS WILL BE ASKED FOR
PHOTO I.D. AT TIME OF FLIGHT CHECK-IN. IF THE
NAME ON THE TICKET AND THE PASSENGERS I.D. DO NOT
MATCH THE PASSENGER WILL BE REQUIRED TO SURRENDER
THE TICKET AND PURCHASE THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
THE DEPARTING FLIGHT.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES
TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

PENALTIES : FARE RULE
CHANGES

CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A. UNUSED TICKETS ARE FULLY REFUNDABLE.
B. THE UNUSED PORTION OF A PARTIALLY USED TICKET
IS REFUNDABLE TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT.
WHEN ROUND TRIP FARES WERE ORIGINALLY USED - TO
DETERMINE THE REFUND - REPRICE THE ORIGINAL
OUTBOUND AS A OW FARE USING CURRENT REFUNDABLE
OW FARES. ANY RESIDUAL WILL BE REFUNDED TO THE
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT.

CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SECTION 1 - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS -
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT
VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY
BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF CO INTERNATIONAL FARES
A. REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TICKET
WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE
MET -
1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS
2. SAME FARE ON THE 1ST COMPONENT IS USED
3. CO FARES ARE USED
4. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS
ARE MET
6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN
BOOKING DATE KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND
RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT
OR-
B. REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
ARE MET -
1. CO FARES ARE USED
2. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN
BOOKING DATE KNOWN
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE
TO DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND
RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT
OR-
C. REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING
CODE CHANGES PERMITTED
PROVIDED THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS ARE MET -
1. NO CHANGE IN FARE BREAKS
2. CO FARES ARE USED
3. PROVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RESERVATIONS
REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING DATE KNOWN
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE
TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND
RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT
OR -
D. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT - ANY
REMAINING AMOUNT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
SECTION 2 - PARTIALLY USED TICKETS -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT
VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS
MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF CO INTERNATIONAL
FARES
A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN
EFFECT TODAY
A1. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
PROVIDED THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS ARE MET -
1. NO CHANGE TO THE FARE BREAKS UP TO THE
FIRST CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO
FURTHER POINT
3. CO FARES ARE USED
4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS
ARE MET
6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN
BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE
TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND
RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT
OR -
B. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING FARES IN
EFFECT WHEN THE TICKET WAS ISSUED
B1. UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USING
CURRENTLY TICKETED FARES
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
ARE MET -
1. NO CHANGE TO THE FARE BREAKS
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO A
FURTHER POINT
3. CO FARES ARE USED
4. PRIVATE FARE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS
ARE MET
6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN
BOOKING DATE IS KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT
DATE TO DEPARTURE OF THE JOURNEY
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE REFUND
RESIDUAL THE ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA
ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT
OR -
C. CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT - ANY
REMAINING AMOUNT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CANCELLATIONS

PER TICKET CHARGE USD 150.00 FOR LOST TICKET.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY
PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S.
GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169.

HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - /-REFUNDABLE-/
- IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
CHARGE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.

TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.

MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : NORMAL FARES
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/COACH/OFF
PEAK COACH CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE ALSO APPLIES TO JOINT TRANSPORTATION.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
SEATS ARE LIMITED.
VIA B/H/K/L/Q/V TYPE FARES WITHIN THE CONT. U.S.
SEATS ARE LIMITED.

As this fare doesn't appear to be bookable, I'll mark this thread as a Phantom Fare. Should someone find the fare bookable (assuming those helicopters start flying again), please contact a moderator, and we will update the thread title.

--jpdx, MR Moderator

Helicopters? I thought they could only seat a few passengers... hardly profitable!

FareCompare often has non existent fares. When I look for AA MR material on http://www.farecompare.com/search/flyertalk.html , I often see it list fares much lower than what I can find on aa.com.

It's as if they were working with data from a couple of months ago or something.

FareCompare is a joke. I used to use them all the time a few years back. Today, they just have fictional fares. Useless.

By the way, despite claims otherwise by airline personnel. It is possible to fly between JFK-EWR. I did it a couple of months back. The booking agents said it was impossible but then I gave them a route with flight numbers and they said they didn't know you could do that.

Helicopters? I thought they could only seat a few passengers... hardly profitable!

Maybe that's why US Helicopter has ceased operations. :-: ;)

By the way, despite claims otherwise by airline personnel. It is possible to fly between JFK-EWR. I did it a couple of months back. The booking agents said it was impossible but then I gave them a route with flight numbers and they said they didn't know you could do that.
Sure, it is possible, but what is the fare construct? JFK-EWR or JFK-ZZZ-EWR?