Hyatt Gold Passport - Points or Miles

I did 6 stays in HP, HSS the last couple of weeks and I have registered to earn 2500 bonus miles after 2 stays with United and I am registered for the FFN. I have registered for miles instead of points for my stays so that I can make use of the 2500 bonus miles after 2 stays plus 500 miles for each stay.As a new Diamond member, whenever I check in the hotel, I am offered 500 bonus points too (or a fruit bowl, which I always decline). I am also getting 1000 G1 bonus points.

I am getting 452 as my base points + 1000 G1 points + 500 points + 136 other bonus points (I guess it is from Mastercard promotion I registered) = 1636 bonus points; Total Amount = 2088 points. For other stays, I am receiving 4013 points (395+3618) and 4046 points (420+3626), because during one of the stays at HSS - my DVD player didn't work and they gave me 2000/2500 bonus points as an apology. .

Since I've opted for airline miles (considering the big 2500 United miles/2 stays and 500 miles for each stay = 3500 miles after every 2 stays), I am willing to let go the lower points eg. 2088 points and convert to miles and earn 500 miles/each stay (thus ignoring my 1000 G1 points and 500 Diamond member bonus points). I am okay for 500 miles Vs 2088 points.

But the other higher points eg. 4046 and 4013 points are bigger in my opinion and I am confused whether to earn bonus miles or points? If I take miles, I just get 500 miles Vs 4046 points. Which is advisable to do? I can only earn 3500 United miles before Oct 31st. Kindly advise.

If you are not a 1K, and would just get the 2500 bonus miles for every 2 stays, I would opt for the points instead of miles. 2500 miles isn't that attractive and can be obtained quite easily through various ways.

On the other hand, if you are a 1K, you get 5000 bonus miles for every stay + 2500 bonus miles for every 2 stays. In this case, I would go for the miles.

The points are much more valuable than 500 UA miles (miles worth maybe $10 at most). Auckland, for instance, is 5,000 points per night and you'd be pretty close to a free stay there with 4,000 points, or halfway to a free stay in Perth which is 8,000 points a night (or SFO which is 8,000 points). 500 UA miles, by comparison, doesn't get you close to anything.

Also, the 136 points you questioned is your Diamond 30% bonus on the 452 base points. By chance you're not a 1K and missing out on the 5,000 mile 1K bonus per stay?

List of Hyatt award categories (http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp)

Tom enjoying my 1BR suite at the Grand Hyatt in Seattle tonight

I find hotel points in general to be more valuable than airline miles. That's why I switched all my purchases (or at least for those vendors who take Amex) from my MP Visa to my Starwood Amex.

The points are much more valuable than 500 UA miles (miles worth maybe $10 at most). Auckland, for instance, is 5,000 points per night and you'd be pretty close to a free stay there with 4,000 points, or halfway to a free stay in Perth which is 8,000 points a night (or SFO which is 8,000 points). 500 UA miles, by comparison, doesn't get you close to anything.

Also, the 136 points you questioned is your Diamond 30% bonus on the 452 base points. By chance you're not a 1K and missing out on the 5,000 mile 1K bonus per stay?

List of Hyatt award categories (http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp)

Tom enjoying my 1BR suite at the Grand Hyatt in Seattle tonight

Thanks for clarification on the 30% bonus points. I am not a 1K (I guess you have to have 100,000 United Miles I guess). But I will have 7 free nights by end of this month from FFN. I know 500 UA miles is nothing but it is 3500 miles per 2 stay actually (2500 miles/2 stay + 500 miles/ each stay) that is too tempting and I have 14 stays = 7 *3500 miles = 24500 miles though. What you say?

Enjoy your night stay at Seattle, hope it is not raining.

If you are not a 1K, and would just get the 2500 bonus miles for every 2 stays, I would opt for the points instead of miles. 2500 miles isn't that attractive and can be obtained quite easily through various ways.

On the other hand, if you are a 1K, you get 5000 bonus miles for every stay + 2500 bonus miles for every 2 stays. In this case, I would go for the miles.

Your advise is quite contrary to each other. I am not a 1K (I guess you have to have 100,000 United Miles I guess). It is 3500 miles per 2 stay actually (2500 miles/2 stay + 500 miles/ each stay). You want me to opt for point then?

I will have 7 free nights by end of this month from FFN. I know 500 UA miles is of no good value but it is 3500 miles per 2 stay actually (2500 miles/2 stay + 500 miles/ each stay) that is too tempting and I have 14 stays = 7 *3500 miles = 24500 United miles through Hyatt stays alone. What you say?

Even at 3,500 UA miles per 2 stays, compared to as many at 8,000 Hyatt points for 2 stays, the value is not there for the miles. Figure those UA miles at a high range of 2 cents each are worth $70 (some would use a value of 1.5 cents which makes them worth $53). 8,000 Hyatt points per 2 stays, if you're able to get at least 4,000 a night with promos, can easily be worth over $100. I have some stays in Melbourne, Australia, where the property is 12,000 points a night or $300. In that case 4,000 points ends up being worth $100. Figure out where you want to redeem the Hyatt points and you can assign your own value there. You can assign a similar value to your 25,000 UA miles depending where you intend to spend them. If you're going to use those miles on a very expensive trip you might be able to make the case the miles have more value to you.

I did 6 stays in HP, HSS the last couple of weeks and I have registered to earn 2500 bonus miles after 2 stays with United and I am registered for the FFN. I have registered for miles instead of points for my stays so that I can make use of the 2500 bonus miles after 2 stays plus 500 miles for each stay.As a new Diamond member, whenever I check in the hotel, I am offered 500 bonus points too (or a fruit bowl, which I always decline). I am also getting 1000 G1 bonus points.

I am getting 452 as my base points + 1000 G1 points + 500 points + 136 other bonus points (I guess it is from Mastercard promotion I registered) = 1636 bonus points; Total Amount = 2088 points. For other stays, I am receiving 4013 points (395+3618) and 4046 points (420+3626), because during one of the stays at HSS - my DVD player didn't work and they gave me 2000/2500 bonus points as an apology. .

Since I've opted for airline miles (considering the big 2500 United miles/2 stays and 500 miles for each stay = 3500 miles after every 2 stays), I am willing to let go the lower points eg. 2088 points and convert to miles and earn 500 miles/each stay (thus ignoring my 1000 G1 points and 500 Diamond member bonus points). I am okay for 500 miles Vs 2088 points.

But the other higher points eg. 4046 and 4013 points are bigger in my opinion and I am confused whether to earn bonus miles or points? If I take miles, I just get 500 miles Vs 4046 points. Which is advisable to do? I can only earn 3500 United miles before Oct 31st. Kindly advise.

The 2000/2500 apology points should NOT be taken away even if you chose to earn miles. Also, you will earn 500 Diamond amenity even if you chose to earn miles. Most agents just don't know how to post it :rolleyes:

I have elected to take UA miles instead of Hyatt GP points as well for my past stays since September 1, but only because of the Hyatt GP/UAMP 1K offer of 5K UA miles per stay (http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/aa/offer1.jsp?me02_mbr_src=UA15K). It is combinable with the 2.5K miles for every 2nd stay, the 500 base miles per stay, and the 1W Diamond amenity (500/1000 HGP points depending on the property). That's a lot of miles, and my stays have been frequent because of FFN.

The offer only goes until 10/31 however, so after this week it's back to Hyatt points!

Cross-posting is not allowed on FT. As you started this exact thread in the Hyatt Forum, I will move it there and it can be combined with your original one.

iluv2fly
Moderator, UA

The 2000/2500 apology points should NOT be taken away even if you chose to earn miles. Also, you will earn 500 Diamond amenity even if you chose to earn miles. Most agents just don't know how to post it :rolleyes:

Are you sure? The CSR lady after Looking into my points told I will be getting only 500 miles/stay. That will be good, as I can still get points and miles parallely. How do you request them and make them understand about 500 amenity points and apology points?

Are you sure? The CSR lady after Looking into my points told I will be getting only 500 miles/stay. That will be good, as I can still get points and miles parallely. How do you request them and make them understand about 500 amenity points and apology points?

If the apology points is posted separately in your account, it won't go away if you convert to miles. The amenity points is an ongoing battle since most CSRs don't know how to post them separately from the stay itself.

What should I do/ say to get the apology bonus points and the 500 amenesty bonus points correctly? Any one has success in doing this before?

Everyone has to decide what they want to earn but for me, I would take the hotel points I would elect to keep the two 4000+ stays as points even if you change the first several to miles or if I needed miles I would take a combination of the two, since you CAN switch between points and miles for every stay.


In your first post you list that you can only earn it till October 31'st this is not the case. The October date is only for the 1K promotion that you don't qualify for, unless that is your own personal deadline for earning. If you are doing 500 miles per stay and then the bonus 2,500 for every two stays it is till December 31'st you can earn it by the promo terms.

http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/aa/offer1.jsp?me02_mbr_src=09UA4

If you do decide to switch to miles, the CS may not know how to give you the diamond 500 and the apology points for those two stays with the broken dvd player even if technically they should do it, so you will either have to be patient and explain it or accept that you may forfeit them if you change those two to miles.



my estimate on your points (my opinion only)

assuming the 14 stays you mention.
3,500 x 7 = 24,500 miles plus 7 nights to be used by end of march.

2088 points x12= 25,056 + 4013 + 4046 = 33,115. This can get some really good rooms that are higher value than the air ticket and also 7 nights to use by end of March.

http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp

or you can do any amount of stays for miles and then do some for points, example is 8 stays for miles (4x 3500=14,000) and 6 for points or whatever combination works for you.

I will switch to miles when there are no G* bonuses and a lower rate by for all others I choose points, but again you are the only one who can decide what you want to earn.

enjoy your stays :)

Everyone has to decide what they want to earn but for me, I would take the hotel points I would elect to keep the two 4000+ stays as points even if you change the first several to miles or if I needed miles I would take a combination of the two, since you CAN switch between points and miles for every stay.


In your first post you list that you can only earn it till October 31'st this is not the case. The October date is only for the 1K promotion that you don't qualify for, unless that is your own personal deadline for earning. If you are doing 500 miles per stay and then the bonus 2,500 for every two stays it is till December 31'st you can earn it by the promo terms.

http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/aa/offer1.jsp?me02_mbr_src=09UA4

Thanks a lot for your advise. It was very useful. Need to rethink abt switching to points.
If you do decide to switch to miles, the CS may not know how to give you the diamond 500 and the apology points for those two stays with the broken dvd player even if technically they should do it, so you will either have to be patient and explain it or accept that you may forfeit them if you change those two to miles.



my estimate on your points (my opinion only)

assuming the 14 stays you mention.
3,500 x 7 = 24,500 miles plus 7 nights to be used by end of march.

2088 points x12= 25,056 + 4013 + 4046 = 33,115. This can get some really good rooms that are higher value than the air ticket and also 7 nights to use by end of March.

http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp

or you can do any amount of stays for miles and then do some for points, example is 8 stays for miles (4x 3500=14,000) and 6 for points or whatever combination works for you.

I will switch to miles when there are no G* bonuses and a lower rate by for all others I choose points, but again you are the only one who can decide what you want to earn.

enjoy your stays :)

On the other hand, if you are a 1K, you get 5000 bonus miles for every stay.

Until the end of October only @:-)

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Thanks for clarification on the 30% bonus points. I am not a 1K (I guess you have to have 100,000 United Miles I guess). But I will have 7 free nights by end of this month from FFN. I know 500 UA miles is nothing but it is 3500 miles per 2 stay actually (2500 miles/2 stay + 500 miles/ each stay) that is too tempting and I have 14 stays = 7 *3500 miles = 24500 miles though. What you say?

Enjoy your night stay at Seattle, hope it is not raining.

I, the Platinum member, would do the following calculation with stays of around 100 USD each

A: 3500 UA plus 6000 Hyatt
Each two stays = 2500 UA miles (1 x 2500)
Each two stays = 1000 UA miles (2 x 500)
Each two stays = 6000 Hyatt points (the next big thing)

versus

B: 7150 Hyatt
Each two stays = 1150 Hyatt points (2 x 575)
Each two stays = 6000 Hyatt points (the next big thing)

Conclusion: You better chose United miles than points if you decide to chose the 3000 points per stay option

everyone's situation is different, since I collect on Delta, I don't value miles that high, ;) but if they did choose the 3000 I can understand the collecting of miles since they would have had a ton of points. kay_jay states they will have 7 free nights earned so they opted for FFN nights not the 3000 points per stay after 2'nd.

reading the first few posts, I think that they thought they had to elect all their stays had to to be either points or miles, so they were trying to decide which was best. They can switch between points and miles without affecting the promo and can choose miles for the lower earning stays and then get points for the higher point stays or whatever works best for them.

I hope everyone giving their opinions helped and would love to know how this turned out for the OP

I, the Platinum member, would do the following calculation with stays of around 100 USD each

A: 3500 UA plus 6000 Hyatt
Each two stays = 2500 UA miles (1 x 2500)
Each two stays = 1000 UA miles (2 x 500)
Each two stays = 6000 Hyatt points (the next big thing)

versus

B: 7150 Hyatt
Each two stays = 1150 Hyatt points (2 x 575)
Each two stays = 6000 Hyatt points (the next big thing)

Conclusion: You better chose United miles than points if you decide to chose the 3000 points per stay option


Thanks a lot for the calculations and advise. In my case, by having Diamond status and free nights. I am not in a hurry to earn points right now. Rather I'd go for miles as I am few thousand miles short of a free travel ticket. I can use this during the Christmas/Thanksgiving time. After 12/31, I may probably think about earning more points with Hyatt. But I am going to keep anything >4000 points as I can see the value of it. Thanks everyone.

everyone's situation is different, since I collect on Delta, I don't value miles that high, ;) but if they did choose the 3000 I can understand the collecting of miles since they would have had a ton of points. kay_jay states they will have 7 free nights earned so they opted for FFN nights not the 3000 points per stay after 2'nd.

reading the first few posts, I think that they thought they had to elect all their stays had to to be either points or miles, so they were trying to decide which was best. They can switch between points and miles without affecting the promo and can choose miles for the lower earning stays and then get points for the higher point stays or whatever works best for them.

I hope everyone giving their opinions helped and would love to know how this turned out for the OP


Yeah I will have 7 free nights by tomorrow. Will keep anything > 4000 points and will go for miles <4000 points. Need airline miles > the need for a free hotel stay.

I am new to Hyatt Gold Passport, so forgive me for asking :o I have the Platinum trial membership and will be staying at a Hyatt hotel for three nights in a couple of weeks. I am wondering if I should go with the points or the miles? United has a 2,500 miles (plus the regular 500 miles, I assume), so that would be 3,000. The Hyatt points would be around 2,150 for the stay (including the G1 bonus). What would you chose? I guess it won't be possible to get the 3,000 points or the free night from the "next big thing" promotion if I don't change hotels during my stay?

You decide at check-in (http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/earning/with_hyatt.jsp;jsessionid=SXETQGFFMFQ4OCTEAGDCFFQK MQAYOIV0), if you like to earn GP points or travel partner currency.

If you choose to earn MP miles, you will earn 2.5K MP miles (http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/aa/offer1.jsp?me02_mbr_src=09UA4) for every two eligible nights (max 25K MP miles for 20 nights) plus 500 MP miles/stay. To sum up, this is 3K MP miles + 1/2 2.5K MP miles + 1/2 FFN (if you choose 3K GP bonus points after your 2nd eligible stay: you either surrender these points (http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/offers/pop-you-choose-offer-tc.jsp?wt=pop_up) or you request it from Karen).

Your options are either 2.150 GP points (your calculation) or 4.250 MP miles (if you stay another night and choose to earn MP miles).

If you like to maximize your FFNs you have to stay at a different Hyatt property on your 2nd night (eg.: 1st night: A, 2nd night: B; 3rd night: A).

You decide you either surrender these points (http://goldpassport.hyatt.com/gp/en/offers/pop-you-choose-offer-tc.jsp?wt=pop_up) or you request it from Karen).

Thanks, Smart Shopper! This is pretty interesting. However, I did not understand the last part - request it from Karen?

I can only stay three nights.
If I stay in the same property, I'll get 3K MP bonus miles and 1/2 FFN, or 2,150 points and 1/2 FFN

If I do the A-B-A option, I'll get 4K MP (plus another 3.5K is I stay another night somewher) and 1.5 FFN, or 4,311 points and 1.5 FFN, or ~7,311 points.

Which one would you go for? I guess A-B-A, but which earning option would you chose? Your opinion is greatly appreciated!

... However, I did not understand the last part - request it from Karen?!
I am thinking of this post (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12458336-post47.html).
Which earning option would you chose?
I am only a "Hotel Hoppa" if I am able to use FFNs moneywise. In your scenario I opt for GP points (the more GX bonus points, the better).

Here is the update: got all my bonus points for broken Dvd and unavailablity of airport shuttle. Rest all, I got miles and bonus miles! I didn't get the 1000 G1 points for each stay though. I can't complain, but someone here told that I will have G1 points but not the 500 amenity points even if we choose miles. How is it possible?

I didn't get the 1000 G1 points for each stay though. I can't complain, but someone here told that I will have G1 points but not the 500 amenity points even if we choose miles. How is it possible?
If you opt to earn miles you surrender GX bonus offer and you have to request (either via ermail or phonecall to CS) to add Diamond Welcome bonus points manually.

If you opt to earn miles you surrender GX bonus offer and you have to request (either via ermail or phonecall to CS) to add Diamond Welcome bonus points manually.

Thanks, have emailed GPP, lets see what happens.
The update is:
They gave me all the Diamond amenity points but no G1 points. I got 4000 amenity points, which is good.