oneworld - AONE3 ex CGK for review

I am planning an AONE3, looking to maximise QF status credits and miles and enjoy long haul First. Current plan is
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-SJO-DFW-ORD-JFK-HKGx-CGK
which gives 43804 miles according to mileage monkey. All sectors are in A class except LHR-IST and MIA-SJO. Does anyone have any comments or improvements? Thanks in advance.

Don't rely on F on regional CX - it's liable to disappear randomly through equipment changes or it simply being pulled from the route.

I assume this is in the northern winter so you can't go to ANC.

LHR-SFO-MIA is 155 miles longer than LHR-LAX-MIA.

DFW-SJU-JFK is 2219 miles better than DFW-ORD-JFK

I am planning an AONE3, looking to maximise QF status credits and miles and enjoy long haul First. Current plan is
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-MIA-SJO-DFW-ORD-JFK-HKGx-CGK
which gives 43804 miles according to mileage monkey. All sectors are in A class except LHR-IST and MIA-SJO. Does anyone have any comments or improvements? Thanks in advance.No FC on MIA-SJO.

The UK government will thank you for the APD payments. Can you turn one of the longhaul LHR connections into a transit?

DFW-SJU-JFK is 2219 miles better than DFW-ORD-JFKAgain, only J offered on Caribbean routes, so no A on either segment. DFW-ORD-JFK will yield more QF SCs than DFW-SJU-JFK.

Well OK, but far more miles, and Caribbean J is the same seats and more or less the same service as domestic F, so it comes down to whether SCs or miles are more important (the OP specified both).

Well OK, but far more miles, and Caribbean J is the same seats and more or less the same service as domestic F, so it comes down to whether SCs or miles are more important (the OP specified both).

Which leads me to wonder what are the maximised 6 sectors in NA on a DONEX in summer when ANC is available and winter when it isn't. Maximised on the one hand for miles and on the other for status credits.

Which leads me to wonder what are the maximised 6 sectors in NA on a DONEX in summer when ANC is available and winter when it isn't. Maximised on the one hand for miles and on the other for status credits.This thread may help:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld/674445-mileage-maximising-6-oneworld-explorer-segments-north-america.html

Thanks everyone. Miles are probably more important than status credits as I should have more than enough to get to platinum with the trip.
Have changed routing to CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-SFO-MIA-SJO-DFW-SJU-JFK-HKGx-CGK
now 46,187 miles according to mileage monkey.

Do you really want to maximize miles? This doesn't make too much sense with QFF usually.

Here is another idea:

CGK-HKG-KIX-HKG-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-AUA-LAX-DFW-JFK-HKG-CGK

46686 miles and 2260 SCs compared to 46187 miles and 2170SCs.

The advantage of this itinerary is CX F YVR-JFK. Some of those flights are seasonal so it depends on when you actually go (with the critical one being AUA-LAX).

Also consider that it is good to maximize SCs. A it is possible to use them between years so you get WP for two years but also because you want to get LTG. And 6 or 7 of those beasts will get you there.

Do you really want to maximize miles? This doesn't make too much sense with QFF usually.

Here is another idea:

CGK-HKG-KIX-HKG-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-AUA-LAX-DFW-JFK-HKG-CGK

46686 miles and 2260 SCs compared to 46187 miles and 2170SCs.

The advantage of this itinerary is CX F YVR-JFK. Some of those flights are seasonal so it depends on when you actually go (with the critical one being AUA-LAX).

Also consider that it is good to maximize SCs. A it is possible to use them between years so you get WP for two years but also because you want to get LTG. And 6 or 7 of those beasts will get you there.Depending on who one speaks with at the AA RTW desk, they might balk at ticketing an itinerary without an AA transoceanic segment.

JFK-HKG could be booked on AA codeshare to get around that "problem"

Is there a direct flight between JFK-AUA??

Depending on who one speaks with at the AA RTW desk, they might balk at ticketing an itinerary without an AA transoceanic segment.

Never had this problem so far and in theory they should ticket any itinerary.

Is there a direct flight between JFK-AUA??

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK]
AUA Aruba Reina Beatrix AW
TUE 17 Nov 2009 - 24 Nov 2009

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------
AA 679 JFK 07:25 AUA 13:15 757 0 -2--56- 04:50 8 - 20 Nov 19 Dec Tue 17 Nov

Thanks for all the help. here is the latest
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-SJO-DFW-JFK-HKGx-CGK
The next problem is ticketing. Is the online booking tool the best or should I use the AA RTW desk? I'm confused re the " Paying for an ex-CGK DONE3 in Aus " thread. Thanks

Thanks for all the help. here is the latest
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-SJO-DFW-JFK-HKGx-CGK
The next problem is ticketing. Is the online booking tool the best or should I use the AA RTW desk? I'm confused re the " Paying for an ex-CGK DONE3 in Aus " thread. Thanks

You are only using 15 of the 16 segments allowed.

I have now used the 16 segments :
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-SJO-DFW-MIA-JFK-HKGx-CGK
So do I now ring the AA RTW desk, pay for the ticket with my Australian amex and they issue an E ticket?

I have now used the 16 segments :
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-SJO-DFW-MIA-JFK-HKGx-CGK
So do I now ring the AA RTW desk, pay for the ticket with my Australian amex and they issue an E ticket?No. Ring the RTW desk and have them set up the itinerary and assign it a PNR. They will need to send it off to their rates/tariff department (Dublin) where the wizards will compute taxes and fuel fines, etc. The RTW desk should have the final number in ~24 hours but it can vary.

Once you have the price and the PNR you will need to contact an AA office in Indonesia (or a travel agent) in order to arrange for payment using your credit card. They may want a fax of the credit card front/back, or they may want a wire transfer, depending on local policy. The ticket has to be issued in Indonesia.

As a "control" or for comparison purposes, meanwhile you could put your itinerary into the Oneworld Explorer booking tool and see what the final number is. I think everyone who frequents this board would like to know the variance between the robotic fare and the AA fare.

Once you have the price and the PNR you will need to contact an AA office in Indonesia (or a travel agent) in order to arrange for payment using your credit card. They may want a fax of the credit card front/back, or they may want a wire transfer, depending on local policy. The ticket has to be issued in Indonesia.Well, maybe - have we had a definitive answer on the "Issue in Aus at ex-Indonesia price because there is no ex-Aus AONE3 price" question? Must be worth a call to AA Australia to see if they'd do it.

I am now totally at the end of my tether!!!
I have spoken to FIVE different agents at the RTW desk in Dallas and they are refusing to book the itinerary
CGK-HKG-KIX-HKGx-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-YVR-JFK-MIA-SJO-DFW-JFK-HKGx-CGK
They are all saying I can only have 1 stopover in the continent of origin , despite my stating the rules

"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to begin or return from your international travel of which a maximum of 1 stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin."

They seem to be confusing country with continent. I asked one agent to speak to a supervisor and the supervisor confirmed what the agent said. !!!!
(despite it being fully validated on the oneworld site)

So, giving up I decided to book online and pay the extra fuel taxes and got to the point of payment and couldn't pay for the ticket with AMEX, they only take Visa, Mastercard or Diners. My Visa limit is not high enough to pay for 2 AONE tickets.

I'm ready to throw the whole thing out the window. Any suggestions ?

Prepay your Visa card would be the obvious one - you can take your Visa card into positive balance without a problem.

Although I am really quite surprised about the AA desk - I have never had a problem with them. The rule is absolutely clear so I can't see how they can refuse. I wonder if the reall problem is no over-water AA flights in there?

Christep, you are brilliant! Loaded up my Visa card and it is booked.
With regard to the RTW desk, I didn't get past the Asia sectors before they rejected it. I was told that after CGK-HKG I had to go straight to LHR.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.