Airlines of India - Full body scanners - Will this ever work in India, if it comes through at all?




aniruddh77
Oct 14, 09, 7:44 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8303983.stm


GUWonder
Oct 14, 09, 8:21 am
It won't work in India and it won't be allowed by the current government if the Prime Minister and Sonia Gandhi have anything to say about it. ;)

aniruddh77
Oct 14, 09, 11:37 am
I agree, but is it really as effective as they claim it to be? Better than those new back-reflection scanners?


GUWonder
Oct 15, 09, 1:20 am
MMW, backscatter x-ray, or T-ray devices, none of them identify explosives. A properly trained sniffer dog would be more effective.

Spiff
Oct 15, 09, 1:25 am
I sincerely hope that the world's largest democracy is smarter than two stupid, supposedly democratic nations, the US and the UK. :mad:

GUWonder
Oct 15, 09, 7:07 am
I don't think India is smarter than other countries with democratic elections, but it is a country that has enough people that will be up in arms -- perhaps even quite literally -- if any politician is foolish enough to try to force the Indian public to provide a naked image of their body as a condition of passage on a common carrier. [Maybe a (now deceased) Sanjay Gandhi type or his son would dare to try it, but attacks upon the body-modesty of Indians have been known to tear down and tear apart the government in India and that lesson hasn't been lost on everyone.]

.... and the bureaucrats don't have the testicular fortitude to try to push this forward even if they have the testicular fortitude to ask to have their palms greased to no end.

aniruddh77
Oct 16, 09, 1:30 am
I don't think India is smarter than other countries with democratic elections, but it is a country that has enough people that will be up in arms -- perhaps even quite literally -- if any politician is foolish enough to try to force the Indian public to provide a naked image of their body as a condition of passage on a common carrier. [Maybe a (now deceased) Sanjay Gandhi type or his son would dare to try it, but attacks upon the body-modesty of Indians have been known to tear down and tear apart the government in India and that lesson hasn't been lost on everyone.]

.... and the bureaucrats don't have the testicular fortitude to try to push this forward even if they have the testicular fortitude to ask to have their palms greased to no end.
Entirely agree... I suppose the public outcry at such travesty will be too much opposition to implement!

yensoy
Oct 18, 09, 11:34 pm
I think it won't work in India just because I think it will be too expensive. If it becomes mandatory then airports will be forced to buy them. To cut costs they will only buy 2, and when 1 fails hell will break loose.

As for the nudity part of it, won't be a problem in India because the security screening is already segregated by gender. Which is why 2 will be needed at a minimum.

GUWonder
Oct 19, 09, 1:36 am
I think it won't work in India just because I think it will be too expensive. If it becomes mandatory then airports will be forced to buy them. To cut costs they will only buy 2, and when 1 fails hell will break loose.

As for the nudity part of it, won't be a problem in India because the security screening is already segregated by gender. Which is why 2 will be needed at a minimum.

About the first paragraph above, that outcome wouldn't surprise me as it's an issue even with the WTMDs, which airport security in India often don't seem to rely upon much -- if at all -- even when they are functioning.

About the nudity part, it would be a problem even as screening is already gender segregated. A strip search or other demanded nudity of a female passenger by a female screener at an Indian airport when the screening discovers nothing contraband will not go over well at all. It will not go over well with civil society in general (especially with the highly-tabloid-like TV news coverage) and not with a large segment of the political class. India is the country where even commenting in some ways about male or female private parts in public can result in arrest and prosecution by the government.

aniruddh77
Oct 19, 09, 2:39 am
About the first paragraph above, that outcome wouldn't surprise me as it's an issue even with the WTMDs, which airport security in India often don't seem to rely upon much -- if at all -- even when they are functioning.

About the nudity part, it would be a problem even as screening is already gender segregated. A strip search or other demanded nudity of a female passenger by a female screener at an Indian airport when the screening discovers nothing contraband will not go over well at all. It will not go over well with civil society in general (especially with the highly-tabloid-like TV news coverage) and not with a large segment of the political class. India is the country where even commenting in some ways about male or female private parts in public can result in arrest and prosecution by the government.
Agree, and that's probably one of the more important reasons why this won't work in India. Of course, given the nature of the matter involved, the bureaucracy and red tape will ensure that any proposal to introduce this technology will be dragged out so much, that by the time they come to any sort of conclusion on this, the next (and hopefully better) degree of scanning technology will be available.



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