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econprof
Oct 5, 09, 3:51 pm
Hi... I'm a LH Senator (*G) and will be flying for the first time on SQ FRA->JFK at the end of the month.

Are there any benefits of being *G on SQ? Better seating, perhaps? I'm used to the exit row on LH, so this would be nice.

Thanks for any info you can provide.


kt74
Oct 5, 09, 4:34 pm
Star Gold benefits are listed here (http://www.staralliance.com/en/benefits/frequent-flyer/gold-silver-status/), and SQ adheres to all of them (even the priority baggage handling!)

Is better seating a *G benefit? If so, you'd better tell *A to update its website... Never mind, you can guarantee an exit row seat in advance by paying for a Preferred Seat (http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/general/help/booking/PreferredSeats.jsp)

If you are a regular LH traveller, additional (free!) benefits of SQ include one extra inch of seat pitch and seat back AVOD on all 747s, flip down foot rests, amenity kits and amenities in the lavatories, 100% credit on all mileage earning fares, call bells that are answered almost instantaneously, that sort of thing...

Enjoy your flight!

:rolleyes:

Guy Betsy
Oct 5, 09, 4:57 pm
..100% credit on all mileage earning fares, call bells that are answered almost instantaneously, that sort of thing...

Enjoy your flight!

:rolleyes:

Note that some fares do not earn any mileage at all, on any FFP!

Extra benefits on board as a *G?

Nope.


BKKROP
Oct 5, 09, 5:20 pm
Hi econprof, the main advantage of being gold and travelling away from your normal carrier is that as a *A Gold you have access to the lounges, even if travelling in Y and you can take a friend/ wife/ husband in with you. The Singapore lounges are the best there in Asia and you will love them, but on board, most of the perks are given to carrier airlines FFs, just the way it is everywhere, regards bkkrop

9V-SIA
Oct 5, 09, 5:31 pm
Let's not forget:
Priority line when checking in
More allowance (20 kg) for bags
Priority tags

Black Hawk
Oct 5, 09, 5:54 pm
Hello friends,

Am transitting through SIN later this year. Will arrive SIN on Air Asia early in the morning and my SQ flight departs at night.

Is there anyway that I can check in my baggage with SQ early so that I can get to visit the city during the day?

Many thanks in advance!:-:

trooper
Oct 5, 09, 6:01 pm
SQ seem quite keen to extend the published benefits to *Golds... but you ARE restricted to their "*G lounges.".. no entry to the "proper SQ" ones..

In SIN you'll get into the SATS Premier Lounge which is just OK....

Before the Preferred seating charge came in I was offered an exit row on the 380 by the check in agent in SYD.... the flight was pretty empty and I assume it was just a nice gesture to a *G. From now on I'll happily pay the $$ for those seats...

Guy Betsy
Oct 5, 09, 8:14 pm
Hello friends,

Am transitting through SIN later this year. Will arrive SIN on Air Asia early in the morning and my SQ flight departs at night.

Is there anyway that I can check in my baggage with SQ early so that I can get to visit the city during the day?

Many thanks in advance!:-:

Yes you may. Find out which terminal your flight is departing from and go there to do "early check-in".

Then you may either take a cab or the subway to the city.

Black Hawk
Oct 6, 09, 8:27 am
It's just like the city centre check-in facility in HKG.:p

jpatokal
Oct 6, 09, 9:10 am
SQ seem quite keen to extend the published benefits to *Golds... but you ARE restricted to their "*G lounges.".. no entry to the "proper SQ" ones.. In SIN you'll get into the SATS Premier Lounge which is just OK....
The OP's flying to/from FRA, so he'll use the Krisflyer Gold Lounge in T3 instead.

I'm one of many who think that there just isn't all that much difference between the "proper SQ" (SilverKris) and "*G" (Premier/KF Gold) lounges, and that the "non-proper" ones are at times even better (gasp!), but many electrons have been spilled on this topic already...

But yes, once in the air, *G gets you absolutely nothing. :td:

kt74
Oct 6, 09, 4:20 pm
Note that some fares do not earn any mileage at all, on any FFP!

That's why I said "100% on mileage earning fares" ;) - as opposed to 50% or 25% or whatever you get on discounted LH fares

But yes, once in the air, *G gets you absolutely nothing. :td:

Did I miss something here? Why is that a ":td:"? Since UA abolished *G access to E+, I didn't think *Gs got anything on any *A airline in the air, so why should SQ be any different?

Shareholder
Oct 6, 09, 7:20 pm
SFA...nada...you're just another peon relegated to the back of the bus. You can't even get into the real SQ lounges, just he pseudo ones, though they'll let you check in with the business crowd.

jjpb3
Oct 7, 09, 6:39 am
Did I miss something here? Why is that a ":td:"? Since UA abolished *G access to E+, I didn't think *Gs got anything on any *A airline in the air, so why should SQ be any different?
The same thought occurs to me when I read posts like the one you quoted. :) What exactly are *G entitled to across the alliance "once in the air"?

jpatokal
Oct 9, 09, 5:44 am
Did I miss something here? Why is that a ":td:"? Since UA abolished *G access to E+, I didn't think *Gs got anything on any *A airline in the air, so why should SQ be any different?
Most airlines op-up their *Gs every now and then, but SQ makes a point of avoiding this as much as possible.

kt74
Oct 9, 09, 9:21 am
Most airlines op-up their *Gs every now and then, but SQ makes a point of avoiding this as much as possible.

Correction. Your post should read:
"Most airlines op-up ... every now and then, but SQ makes a point of avoiding this as much as possible."

If SQ doesn't op-up (which stands for "operational upgrade" - duh, like, for "operational" reasons), then how can it op-up *Gs?

jpatokal
Oct 12, 09, 5:01 am
Correction. Your post should read:
"Most airlines op-up ... every now and then, but SQ makes a point of avoiding this as much as possible."

If SQ doesn't op-up (which stands for "operational upgrade" - duh, like, for "operational" reasons), then how can it op-up *Gs?

Nope. Every airline, including SQ, tries avoid op-ups as much as possible, yet they still do them when they have to (= economy overbooked, space in business). At most *A airlines, *Gs are at or near the top of the queue when this happens; but on SQ, the PPS system ensures that a mere *G is around 4 rungs down the ladder and thus has very low odds of getting lucky.

KACommuter
Oct 12, 09, 9:53 am
Nope. Every airline, including SQ, tries avoid op-ups as much as possible, yet they still do them when they have to (= economy overbooked, space in business). At most *A airlines, *Gs are at or near the top of the queue when this happens; but on SQ, the PPS system ensures that a mere *G is around 4 rungs down the ladder and thus has very low odds of getting lucky.

I suspect you mean every non-US airline :-).

Re: *G position in the queue, 50,000 miles a year is not special enough to get very high priority in a world where many premium passengers regularly clock 200,000+ miles p.a. So it's not surprising that SQ has PPS, PPS Solitaire etc. on top of *G. CX is similar - Gold is at 60,000 miles, Diamond at 120,000, and there is a Diamond+ for the top 1% of Diamond.

Curious59
Oct 18, 09, 10:59 am
I am a CX G and also SQ G. My experience is that CX treats their G a bit better. Of my 7-8 years as a SQ G, only ever been given one op-up, i.e. once ONLY in 7 years, does that say something?

Yet I get an op-up from CX around once every 3-4 flights. When taking Dragon Air (their subsidy for flights to China), the cabin manager even comes to my Y seat and said welcome on board nearly everytime. Just some little thing that make one feel a bit more important than treatment by SQ.

In SQ, a G is no body...... I once asked at Changi counter why my colleague on the same fight got upgraded while he was not even a KF member and yet I was not upgraded. The answer given by the lady is that "you are four ranks down and do not even hope"..... she was so rude. Reminiscient of how they see a G member.

dannybhoy
Oct 19, 09, 1:10 pm
I am a CX G and also SQ G. My experience is that CX treats their G a bit better. Of my 7-8 years as a SQ G, only ever been given one op-up, i.e. once ONLY in 7 years, does that say something?

Yet I get an op-up from CX around once every 3-4 flights. When taking Dragon Air (their subsidy for flights to China), the cabin manager even comes to my Y seat and said welcome on board nearly everytime. Just some little thing that make one feel a bit more important than treatment by SQ.

In SQ, a G is no body...... I once asked at Changi counter why my colleague on the same fight got upgraded while he was not even a KF member and yet I was not upgraded. The answer given by the lady is that "you are four ranks down and do not even hope"..... she was so rude. Reminiscient of how they see a G member.

Old tired story. I was PPS for 5 years and never got an op-up on an SQ flight. When I flew Y as PPS, I never got the elusive exit row seat or the even more mythical blocked off seat beside mine. I usually didn't get the "Mr Bhoy" personal greeting either.

With the post Aug 2007 enhancements to PPS, I reckon it's good enough being KF Gold anyway. The really critical (for me) bennies are already in Gold - pan-Alliance privileges in lounge access, priority boarding and extra baggage. SQ waitlist priority is/was nice but on work related travel, if my employer needed me to be on an SQ flight, he has ways to make sure that I would be on that flight, regardless of KF status. As for op-ups, if I didn't get them as PPS, I don't think I lost much by being mere Gold.



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