I have been offered a position in Europe but I have a dog that I refuse to check in cargo and I can't leave her behind. I have looked into charter flights and they run $50,000 from NY to Continental Europe (if you're flexible with timing). Without flexible timing, it costs more. The planes hold 10-12 people. If anyone is interested in looking into this with me (with a pet or without with friends) let me know as I can't afford the charter on my own. Thanks!

Have you ever thought about taking it with you on a boat? This will take you about 5 days in total and should be way cheaper.

Which European country are you moving to - the UK for example imposes severe restrictions on how pets can enter the country

I have been offered a position in Europe but I have a dog that I refuse to check in cargo
It's really not going to have a lasting impact on the dog. I brought my dog to Moscow and back, in the hold, and he was fine. We took the nonstop DL flight JFK-SVO on the way there, nonstop SU SVO-JFK on the way back. I believe the return flight is something like 11.5 hours, with the outbound a little shorter. If you can do the transatlantic as a nonstop, you should be OK. I wouldn't do connections, but you sound like you can afford a night or two of stopovers.

perhaps you could buy a single seat >
http://www.businessjetseats.com/

potentially facing same issue. have 2 english bulldogs and they need to be in the cabin (even if i wanted to put them in cargo, i couldnt bc of breathing issues)

mm94065, have you considered the Queen Mary 2? It offers kennels on all TA sailings from NY to Southhampton. Then it shouldn't be all that hard to get to your destination. Certainly a lot cheaper than chartering a jet!:eek:

mm94065, have you considered the Queen Mary 2? It offers kennels on all TA sailings from NY to Southhampton. Then it shouldn't be all that hard to get to your destination. Certainly a lot cheaper than chartering a jet!:eek:

Does any cruise line allow you to keep your dog in your cabin?

Does any cruise line allow you to keep your dog in your cabin?


Doubtful. However, the QM2 has a grassy area where the attendant walks the dogs and guests are allowed to visit the dogs, at least according to their website. I had looked into it when the QE2 was sailing TA.

I think mm94065 meant (when he/she said in the cabin) was in the airplane pressurized cabin because bulldogs have the pushed in face that can cause breathing problems if they are kept in th cargo hold. This wouldn't be a problem at sea, obviously, because no pressurization required!:D

I think mm94065 meant (when he/she said in the cabin) was in the airplane pressurized cabin because bulldogs have the pushed in face that can cause breathing problems if they are kept in th cargo hold. This wouldn't be a problem at sea, obviously, because no pressurization required!:DI'm almost certain that the whole cargo compartment is pressurised as well.

I'm almost certain that the whole cargo compartment is pressurised as well.
It most certainly is. Bulldogs do have breathing issues in general, but being in the cargo hold would be exactly like being in the cabin.

It most certainly is. Bulldogs do have breathing issues in general, but being in the cargo hold would be exactly like being in the cabin.

I should have been clearer that the baggage compartment is supposed to be pressurized but it most certainly is not exactly like being in the cabin. There are temperature changes, light and air issues. That's exactly why airlines like JAL refuse cargo transport of bulldogs and other similar breeds. Other airlines refuse transport of them when the temperature is over 85 degrees.

Here is what the Humane Society says about air transport of push nosed breeds:

"Don't ever ship pug-nosed animals such as Pekingese, Bulldogs, or Persians in the cargo holds. These breeds have short nasal passages that leave them especially vulnerable to oxygen deprivation and heat stroke."

I should have been clearer that the baggage compartment is supposed to be pressurized but it most certainly is not exactly like being in the cabin. There are temperature changes, light and air issues. That's exactly why airlines like JAL refuse cargo transport of bulldogs and other similar breeds. Other airlines refuse transport of them when the temperature is over 85 degrees.

Here is what the Humane Society says about air transport of push nosed breeds:

"Don't ever ship pug-nosed animals such as Pekingese, Bulldogs, or Persians in the cargo holds. These breeds have short nasal passages that leave them especially vulnerable to oxygen deprivation and heat stroke."

I have a black pug. He is also in great danger of flying. Poor thing gets out of breath just going on a short car ride. Some breeds just can not travel and other arrangements have to be made. I baby sat for a neighbor's Pomeranian for one month when she recently traveled to Japan. Best to look for a friendly neighbor than an alternative means of transportation.

There are temperature changes, light and air issues. That's exactly why airlines like JAL refuse cargo transport of bulldogs and other similar breeds. Other airlines refuse transport of them when the temperature is over 85 degrees.
Interesting, I did not know that. Well, one more great reason to own a mutt!

Does any cruise line allow you to keep your dog in your cabin?

No. Agree with the QM2 suggestion if you must bring your dog. $50,000 is a lot of money!

mm94065, have you considered the Queen Mary 2? It offers kennels on all TA sailings from NY to Southhampton. Then it shouldn't be all that hard to get to your destination. Certainly a lot cheaper than chartering a jet!:eek:

yes the QM2 has a fancy kennel and its a good solution. only problem is it only sails to southhampton in the UK and a few times per year to Hamburg in Germany. Unless you have rabbies vaccination and blood test 6months in advance you cant enter the UK. also there are no cruises in the winter time. so unless you travel by early november, the next cruise isnt until mid april of 2009...getting a seat in a chartered plane (with dog in the cabin) gives much more flexibility in terms of timing (and ofcourse its much more expensive)...

I have been offered a position in Europe but I have a dog that I refuse to check in cargo and I can't leave her behind. ......

Where do you want to go?
How big is the dog?

Friends of mine bring their dog with them in the cabin flying RSW-DUS-RSW with LTU (Air Berlin). I have seen dogs in the cabin also with DeBA (Berlin-FRA), Condor.

yes the QM2 has a fancy kennel and its a good solution. only problem is it only sails to southhampton in the UK and a few times per year to Hamburg in Germany. Unless you have rabbies vaccination and blood test 6months in advance you cant enter the UK. also there are no cruises in the winter time. so unless you travel by early november, the next cruise isnt until mid april of 2009...getting a seat in a chartered plane (with dog in the cabin) gives much more flexibility in terms of timing (and ofcourse its much more expensive)...
And if you wish to fly onward from the UK, then your dog has to go as cargo anyway - the CAA doesn't let animals be shipped in the cabin, unless on domestic trips for guide dogs.

And if you wish to fly onward from the UK, then your dog has to go as cargo anyway - the CAA doesn't let animals be shipped in the cabin, unless on domestic trips for guide dogs.

Yes, but you can take the dog on most trains in Europe. Unfortunately, the exception is Eurostar which is obviously the easiest way to get from London to the continent. However, it's not impossible. Check out this webpage, approximately middle of the page for information on how to travel Europe and have your dog with you and not in cargo.

http://www.seat61.com/Europe.htm

I think it's a realistic option. Otherwise, I would just rent a car.

Making sure that the rental company is aware that you wish to take it out the country since most British rental cars are not allowed to be taken out of the country (I've looked into it once, the rates become eye-watering if you want to take them to France :eek: )

And if you wish to fly onward from the UK, then your dog has to go as cargo anyway - the CAA doesn't let animals be shipped in the cabin, unless on domestic trips for guide dogs.

How about your "sheep"?:rolleyes:

The World Dog Show is in Stockholm June 30 - July 6. Here is a company that is offering chartered flights for the dogs from Newark for $2199 including 6 nights in Stockholm. They may do air only.

http://www.dogshowtravel.com/world2008.htm