Shows up on Air Tahiti Nui's website for $200 + but not able to purchase.

Fare class: VTEST

Also available from WAS, etc for more according to FC

VTEST? Strange fare basis - but definitely checking it out - thanks for the heads up!

Can't seem to find outbound availability...

Actually, fare basis seems to be YTEST, not VTEST.

I think they only fly 2x weekly JFK-PPT, so that could be part of the availability issues. Potentially a fun morning for FTers? ;)

Can't seem to find outbound availability...

You can find return availability? When?

The VTEST basis is unlike all their others. I wonder if it is a dummy code set up solely to gauge the FT's reaction, and stands for Vulture Test. :)

FC also list JFK-SYD for 590+

haven't yet found a bookable flight, but the rate does show up. thanks for the heads up--and fun--regardless. i'll keep trying...

You can find return availability? When?

The VTEST basis is unlike all their others. I wonder if it is a dummy code set up solely to gauge the FT's reaction, and stands for Vulture Test. :)

Saw flights exist on return - didn't check fare class availabiliyt...

Yes VTEST is funny, but with fare codes HOWNY and HOWNLA seen on other fares JFK-PPT maybe they are fond of cutesy names.

In my hands, all JFK-PPT,SYD flights on all fares codes are locked up right now, possibly a sign that this is/was real.

If it possibly exists, it's not on Orbitz yet. Tried a 7-day trip in a 30 day range both in Nov and mid Jan-Feb

Expedia has nothing yet either.

This could be a veeeeery interesting day indeed!

This is interesting... Last night I got a FC alert for Chicago-Papeete for $580...Thinking this was a pretty low price, I went to FC, but it was gone this morning, and prices were around $1400. Hopefully not the case with the JFK-PPT price ('cause $200 sounds really nice!).

Also, unfortunately, Air Tahiti Nui earns no miles with NWA.

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Any particular timeframe for which people are looking? I'm not seeing that fare class...

Looking for anything past April '08

Yes VTEST is funny, but with fare codes HOWNY and HOWNLA seen on other fares JFK-PPT maybe they are fond of cutesy names.

In my hands, all JFK-PPT,SYD flights on all fares codes are locked up right now, possibly a sign that this is/was real.

F1ART - another cutesy generic IATA fare basis code name :D

Anticipating a great fare to PPT ;) the next hour or two might be interesting

This would be MEGA!

I'll look it up, but off the top of your heads, do any of you know if Air Tahiti Nui earns miles on other airlines?

This would be MEGA!

I'll look it up, but off the top of your heads, do any of you know if Air Tahiti Nui earns miles on other airlines?

Some fares are good with American Airlines, but not toward status:

Eligible Air Tahiti Nui Fare Classes*
Class of Service Purchased Fares Booked In: Mileage Accrual Percentage
Economy Class Y, M, K, H, T, L 100%
Business Class D, J 100% + 25% bonus
First Class P 100% + 50% bonus
American Airlines and/or Air Tahiti Nui reserve the right to change the eligible fare classes at any time without notice.



http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/ViewMileageProgramsPartnerDetail.jhtml?fileName=ai rTahitiNui.xml&repositoryName=AAdvantagePartnersContentRepository&repositoryId=16019181&itemDescriptor=AAdvantagePartnersContent

Just an overall FYI.. though the fare may be good, please bear in mind that the currency used there is pegged to the Euro, not the dollar and that the islands were not always a good deal to start.

My parents went in 2000 at the height of the USD strength and it was expensive.

No mile on NW, redeem only.

This would be MEGA!

I'll look it up, but off the top of your heads, do any of you know if Air Tahiti Nui earns miles on other airlines?

You can earn AA miles:


Air Tahiti Nui



Earning AAdvantage Miles | Using AAdvantage Miles | Contact Information | Missing Mileage Credit
Earning AAdvantage Miles
Effective August 1, 2006, earn a minimum of 500 AAdvantage miles each time you purchase and fly on a published eligible fare ticket on Air Tahiti Nui. Cooperative service flights operated by carriers other than American Airlines may not be eligible for mileage accrual.

Eligible Air Tahiti Nui Fare Classes*
Class of Service Purchased Fares Booked In: Mileage Accrual Percentage
Economy Class Y, M, K, H, T, L 100%
Business Class D, J 100% + 25% bonus
First Class P 100% + 50% bonus
American Airlines and/or Air Tahiti Nui reserve the right to change the eligible fare classes at any time without notice.

just found a $100 fare (basis YTEST) and the $200 still shows as VTEST...but still not bookable....yet?

just found a $100 fare (basis YTEST) and the $200 still shows as VTEST...but still not bookable....yet?

Yeah, I see it on the Air Tahiti Nui Web site but not bookable.

Yeah, I see it on the Air Tahiti Nui Web site but not bookable.

What dates did you use to pull it up on their website?

Yeah, I see it on the Air Tahiti Nui Web site but not bookable.

But neither is the $1293 fare that shows up below the $100-$200 fares. I was checking flexible dates in April.

Anyone with GDS access seeing it loaded? My most recent load is at 8:07 EDT and it doesn't show YTEST or VTEST anymore. Perhaps pulled after the alert went out?

What dates did you use to pull it up on their website?

I tried Nov. 22 returning the 29 for example.

I'm just not finding anything in '08... : (

Anyone with GDS access seeing it loaded? My most recent load is at 8:07 EDT and it doesn't show YTEST or VTEST anymore. Perhaps pulled after the alert went out?

The fare code did say yTEST, after all. Is it possible that they just loaded the fare temporarily to test out their system? Hope not.

I cannot find it. Its coming up with mega bucks fare. Now I have to go out to work....I'm going to have to bring my laptop and keep going to Starbucks or Panera's to keep checking. I want in on this....

i'm using dates in jan/feb/march, about a week, and using the flexible date feature. works fine, unless you try to book it. ;) i did try going through to booking the $1200 fare, and got the same 'no flights available' message, but had some success with the $1400 fare finding an outbound on jan 9th, but no return.

Okay, if you want to "see" the fare, here it is:

http://www.farecompare.com/flights/-TN/-JFK/-PPT/schedule.html?travelDate=20080315

I can't find it on TN's site yet, though.

I cant see it on EF either.
But from what I see JTEST and ZTEST I would think would book into business

Anything that sounds too good to be true...it probably is.

from the Air Thaiti Nui website, but not bokable (Nov 2-22):

New York-Kennedy , NY , US to Papeete , PF
Options tarifaires demandées

sélectionner Adulte: 100.00 USD = 100.00 USD + taxes/frais supplémentaires
afficher les règles tarifaires Base tarifaire : YTEST
Air Tahiti Nui
Cliquez sur sélectionner pour visualiser les vols disponibles avec ce tarif.

sélectionner Adulte: 200.00 USD = 200.00 USD + taxes/frais supplémentaires
afficher les règles tarifaires Base tarifaire : VTEST
Air Tahiti Nui
Cliquez sur sélectionner pour visualiser les vols disponibles avec ce tarif.

I cant see it on EF either.
But from what I see JTEST and ZTEST I would think would book into business

Off of FC, it appears that JTEST is about $900.

But one has to wonder... A fare called "test" is unlikely to ever be bookable!

Off of FC, it appears that JTEST is about $900.

But one has to wonder... A fare called "test" is unlikely to ever be bookable!

My thoughts exactly. Wondering if they are doing some testing to see if any "filters" or services are picking this up and alerting them about their fare "mistake".

Now it says on AT site that the system encountered an error and tells me to return to the home page.

Edit: apparently it just times out on the fare selection page. the fare is still showing after i go through the process again (btw, I'm looking at the labor day weekend of '08)

My thoughts exactly. Wondering if they are doing some testing to see if any "filters" or services are picking this up and alerting them about their fare "mistake".

but then why fill out all the fare rules?

fare rules


The following rules apply

Fare rules for: NYC to PPT

BLACKOUT_DATES: NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. DAY/TIME: NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. RESERVATION/TICKETING: CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 MONTH AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. WARNING ALL TICKET DEADLINES CAN BE OVERRULED AT ANY TIME BY REVENUE MANAGEMENT. ALL RESERVATIONS MADE WITHOUT TICKET NUMBER CAN BE CANCELLED AT ANY TIME BY THE CARRIER. MINIMUM_STAY: NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. MAXIMUM_STAY: NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. SEASONALITY: NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLIGHTS: IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5600 THROUGH 8399 DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 3742 DL FLIGHTS 5700 THROUGH 5957 DL FLIGHTS 6513 THROUGH 7649 DL FLIGHTS 7750 THROUGH 9999 NW FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 9999 US FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 8799. SURCHARGES: NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. PENALTIES: CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXCEPTIONS - FULL REFUND IN CASE OF REFUSAL OF TRAVEL DOCUMENTS OF THE PASSENGER OR AN ACCOMPANYING IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER AS EVIDENCED BY WRITTEN ADVICE FROM GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES. ---- FOR NO-SHOW ON DAY OF DEPARTURE - REFUND THE FARE PAID LESS USD300. AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 500.00. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE NONREFUNDABLE AMOUNT MAY BE USED AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENT OF ANY FARE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE HAVE BEEN MET. NO DOWNGRADES PERMITTED. ---- IF REISSUED TICKET SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED ORIGINAL PENALTY OF ORIGINAL TICKET WILL APPLY. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REVALIDATION. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. REROUTING AND FARE DOWNGRADING NOT PERMITTED. ---- AT ANYTIME THIS FARE MAY BE USED AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENTOF ANY FARE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE ASSESSED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE HAVE BEEN MET. IF REISSUED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED ORIGINAL PENALTY OF ORIGINAL TICKET WILL APPLY. BLACKOUT DATES FOR OUTBOUND FLIGHTS: NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. MISC: NO PROVISIONS APPLY. TICKET RESTRICTIONS: NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

Maybe they are testing to see how capative of an audience they have.

All these XTEST fares are probably nothing more than what their names say, tests not intended to be ever bookable.

probably right that they're not bookable, but this will make for a fun wednesday morning ...

All these XTEST fares are probably nothing more than what their names say, tests not intended to be ever bookable.

It's a trap! Run for your lives! :cool:

only thing I can think is they book into a non-existent fare bucket

I'm getting the same for Sydney to Los Angeles on farecompare.

Fare Code:YTEST
412 USD Coach RT

Fare Code:JTEST
825 USD Business RT

Didn't check to see dates or if it is bookable.

Cheers.

probably right that they're not bookable, but this will make for a fun wednesday morning ...

It's Thursday morning!

It's Thursday morning!

+5 Points for the sting of that one. :)

only thing I can think is they book into a non-existent fare bucket

On a non-existent plane.:D

Still makes for a fun morning.

but then why fill out all the fare rules?
...

Probably a form or format they are required to file? Who knows, as far as I can tell, it's pretty suspicious to me.

I recall reading that article re. Michelle Peluso and Travelocity how they actively flag fare issues and also work with the vendor to minimize on a repeat of the PPT fiasco. This may be a a test after reading that? :confused:

I feel an April Fools joke from the folks in Pepetee

I feel an April Fools joke from the folks in Pepetee

One that came via a message in a bottle.

but then why fill out all the fare rules?

fare rules


The following rules apply

Fare rules for: NYC to PPT

BLACKOUT_DATES: NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. DAY/TIME: NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. RESERVATION/TICKETING: CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 MONTH AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. WARNING ALL TICKET DEADLINES CAN BE OVERRULED AT ANY TIME BY REVENUE MANAGEMENT. ALL RESERVATIONS MADE WITHOUT TICKET NUMBER CAN BE CANCELLED AT ANY TIME BY THE CARRIER. MINIMUM_STAY: NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. MAXIMUM_STAY: NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. SEASONALITY: NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. FLIGHTS: IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5600 THROUGH 8399 DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 3742 DL FLIGHTS 5700 THROUGH 5957 DL FLIGHTS 6513 THROUGH 7649 DL FLIGHTS 7750 THROUGH 9999 NW FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 9999 US FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 8799. SURCHARGES: NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. PENALTIES: CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXCEPTIONS - FULL REFUND IN CASE OF REFUSAL OF TRAVEL DOCUMENTS OF THE PASSENGER OR AN ACCOMPANYING IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER AS EVIDENCED BY WRITTEN ADVICE FROM GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES. ---- FOR NO-SHOW ON DAY OF DEPARTURE - REFUND THE FARE PAID LESS USD300. AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 500.00. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE NONREFUNDABLE AMOUNT MAY BE USED AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENT OF ANY FARE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE HAVE BEEN MET. NO DOWNGRADES PERMITTED. ---- IF REISSUED TICKET SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED ORIGINAL PENALTY OF ORIGINAL TICKET WILL APPLY. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REVALIDATION. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. REROUTING AND FARE DOWNGRADING NOT PERMITTED. ---- AT ANYTIME THIS FARE MAY BE USED AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENTOF ANY FARE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE ASSESSED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE HAVE BEEN MET. IF REISSUED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED ORIGINAL PENALTY OF ORIGINAL TICKET WILL APPLY. BLACKOUT DATES FOR OUTBOUND FLIGHTS: NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. MISC: NO PROVISIONS APPLY. TICKET RESTRICTIONS: NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

Enforced database consistency rules or defaulting?

Perhaps we should encourage reporting on farecompare deals only after they are provably bookable. That's the rule I've been following personally for quite a while. FC reports about a half dozen mis-hits for every one I find truely bookable. And I've been ignoring anything with "TEST" in it.

And yes, based on trending the last several years, I'm betting that most airlines or consulting services are automatically scanning the databases, based on ppm, and finding mistake fares quicker/before they are released. It's so easy to find suspect fares much lower than normal based on ppm in a database... it's what we do.. but they can scan/do it via robots easily. ( Or even check realtime at the point of data entry of a new fare).

A good competitive analysis marketing department could easily leverage their tools to catch these before they are published.

One that came via a message in a bottle.

from 1988 :)

A good competitive analysis marketing department could easily leverage their tools to catch these before they are published.

Unless they happen to be Alitalia! :D

Enforced database consistency rules or defaulting?

Perhaps we should encourage reporting on farecompare deals only after they are provably bookable. That's the rule I've been following personally for quite a while. FC reports about a half dozen mis-hits for every one I find truely bookable. And I've been ignoring anything with "TEST" in it.


Good policy, methinks. Discussion of a deal seen on FC only before it is loaded could help alert folks who would want to prevent our travels. Only this one was already on airtahitinui.com, meaning it made it out of the gate. Sometimes a little community problem solving might help in these circumstances. This one truly would have been sweet.

For discussion's sake, I had never seen a TEST fare before so maybe someone could help us understand this as it seems it has been seen commonly by some.

Unless they happen to be Alitalia! :D

or United :)

Here I am in the NW worldclub awaiting my flight to MCO for the OGG trip and logged on to see this thread. My heart almost stopped. Then I saw it is not bookable :mad:. Oh well, I probably really could not have afforded another trip this year either time or money-wise.

John

Oh well, I probably really could not have afforded another trip this year either time or money-wise.Getting to French Polynesia really isn't the major expense of a vacation there, fwiw ;)

Getting to French Polynesia really isn't the major expense of a vacation there, fwiw ;)

Short of getting a misprice at a Sheraton in Tahiti perhaps. ;) I've been around here long enough to recall that one. :D

Damn it!!!!.

common TN show us some LOVE'IN

its weird bcs im not able to even purchase a real ticket from their website...

You mean the NAN fiasco.

Some poking around on expert flyer shows many zeroed-out flights in 2008. Perhaps they are doing some diagnostic work on an error fare detection system.

Some poking around on expert flyer shows many zeroed-out flights in 2008. Perhaps they are doing some diagnostic work on an error fare detection system.

I share the suspicions of others: Farecompare sells an alert product for misfiled fares and this is a test of that system (or some competitor).

I am sure the IT, marketing and revenue teams are all very interested in this thread and are looking for the troublemakers. So, to them I say, I AM SPARTACUS! :D

Short of getting a misprice at a Sheraton in Tahiti perhaps. ;) I've been around here long enough to recall that one. :D

Bora Bora Nui wasn't honored, though. But folks got a bunch of Starpoints when the hotel sent out a note to everyone that booked without utilizing the bcc: field (violating SPG's privacy policy).

Some folks will remember the amazing airfare deals ex-PPT, though, about 2 1/2 years ago... :D

This is mostly OT - is there anyway on FC to set a price difference threshold for alerts? I get a ton each day, and most are just 20-30 lower in price so I tend to ignore them

BTW didnt TN stop their JFK-PPT non-stop?

Some poking around on expert flyer shows many zeroed-out flights in 2008. Perhaps they are doing some diagnostic work on an error fare detection system.

That thought crossed my mind early on. Whether this test is in conjunction with Travelocity or someone else is secondary to the concern about the impact of collusion targetting future great fare deals.

Seeing $400 +++ SYD-JFK, but alas like the others not bookable.

Can't even pull the rules up on any of my sites, or see it listed anywhere else but on the TN website.

You mean the NAN fiasco.

Does it in the end mean that we cannot book the "deal"?

Does it in the end mean that we cannot book the "deal"?

Yes

Does it in the end mean that we cannot book the "deal"?

ALSO JFK-PPT N/S DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE......

ALSO JFK-PPT N/S DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE......

Too sad :eek: I was never on Power Point Islands.

...Nevermind!

Anything that sounds too good to be true...it probably is.

You haven't been on FT very long, have you?

You haven't been on FT very long, have you?

That's right. FT is where the dreams come true.

Too sad :eek: I was never on Power Point Islands.

I heard its not compatible with others and that it crashes a lot :D

That's right. FT is where the dreams come true.

When you wish upon a star,
Low cost flights are for you and me,
Biz class Jumbos are our specialties,
But just remember this one time,
Please don't call up to the airlines,
While the deal is in play.

(Sung to When you wish upon a star)

When you wish upon a star,
Low cost flights are for you and me,
Biz class Jumbos are our specialties,
But just remember this one time,
Please don't call up to the airlines,
While the deal is in play.

(Sung to When you wish upon a star)

This is the ONE time I think calling the airlines and bugging them to book this fare since everyone can see it would create a stir for their rez agents. That or they'll already know about it and say, "We're sorry, but we are testing a new fare alert system and these fares were to see if anyone would respond." :mad:

Why? Just to mess back at them :p

This is the ONE time I think calling the airlines and bugging them to book this fare since everyone can see it would create a stir for their rez agents. That or they'll already know about it and say, "We're sorry, but we are testing a new fare alert system and these fares were to see if anyone would respond." :mad:

Why? Just to mess back at them :p

good idea. Who is going to make the call and see what they say...all of us?

good idea. Who is going to make the call and see what they say...all of us?

:mad:Who called and ruined this deal too?;);) (to be taken in jest, I assure you)

Doesn't seem to have any trouble at all booking me into the $5000 fare (for 2). How odd - lol:D

Doesn't seem to have any trouble at all booking me into the $5000 fare. How odd - lol:D

How many did you book??;)

Dang. If this were bookable I might have been able to afford another vacation.

P.S. ^ for the powerpoint reference.

good idea. Who is going to make the call and see what they say...all of us?

Sure, that's the point... to inundate their people so that the NEXT time they release a cheapo fare, it should be available to actually book online, and you won't hear a PEEP out of any of us (well, I hope) :D

I think the people at the reservation center would at least appreciate that (yes, I know, it's very twisted and perverse and false logic here) :p

The airline is SO BADLY and POORLy managed that it wouldn't suprise me that they would sell seats on their flights at that price !!!
You must know that TN's right hand has absolutely no idea what the left hand is doing and doesn't even know if there is a left or right foot !!!
They are having tons of problems with their aircrafts as of now... apparently 2 planes have gone tech and there is a crew stuck in AKL... Their 5 day trip ended being an 8 day one !!!
Also worth knowing... I have friends who checked in as nonrevs in LAX for a flight to PPT and were told that everything was fine and 2 hours before the plane was supposed to land in LAX from CDG they were told that they can't go as the flight actually never left CDG !!! How can they not know that their plane was stuck in CDG ???
Anyway, I'm happy that the fare doesn't exist as that poor airline really doesn't to bleed more money as is... Remember that they are at their 15th capital injection and have been flying for now 8 or 9 years...
hmmmmm....

I took them from lax-ppt a few weeks ago - both flights left 60-90 minutes late which was a pain though they seemed to feel it was normal ... the interiors were nice though - newish airbuses

The airline is SO BADLY and POORLy managed that it wouldn't suprise me that they would sell seats on their flights at that price !!!
You must know that TN's right hand has absolutely no idea what the left hand is doing and doesn't even know if there is a left or right foot !!!
They are having tons of problems with their aircrafts as of now... apparently 2 planes have gone tech and there is a crew stuck in AKL... Their 5 day trip ended being an 8 day one !!!
Also worth knowing... I have friends who checked in as nonrevs in LAX for a flight to PPT and were told that everything was fine and 2 hours before the plane was supposed to land in LAX from CDG they were told that they can't go as the flight actually never left CDG !!! How can they not know that their plane was stuck in CDG ???
Anyway, I'm happy that the fare doesn't exist as that poor airline really doesn't to bleed more money as is... Remember that they are at their 15th capital injection and have been flying for now 8 or 9 years...
hmmmmm....

keep in mind that TN is essentially owned by the govt of France, which owns a majority stake in AF/KLM.

BTW, your country is unreal and go every yr. Spectacular place.

They also have a perennial problem of crew members smuggling drugs back with them to Tahiti.

So, it would seem, the airline has more than its share of woes. But I love Tahiti -- haven't been back since CO abandoned the route many, many yaers ago. I'd take a chance on a low fare. But, alas, it seems not to be.

PSYFLYER...

no offence but you should verify your facts... Air Tahiti Nui is not owned by the government of France but by the tahitian one.
France owns 18% of Air France making it a private company.

I'm glad you love our country and I hope you'll come and visit us again !!!

JACKSONSFO,

I know what you're saying... flightstats shows that from july thru sept 2007 only 46% of the flights were on-time and 29% were excessively late ! 2% of the flights were cancelled !!! So it is not surprising that they feel it is normal !!!
The interior colour sceme is very bright and brings you to the tropics very early indeed !

PSYFLYER...

no offence but you should verify your facts... Air Tahiti Nui is not owned by the government of France but by the tahitian one.
France owns 18% of Air France making it a private company.

I'm glad you love our country and I hope you'll come and visit us again !!!

JACKSONSFO,

I know what you're saying... flightstats shows that from july thru sept 2007 only 46% of the flights were on-time and 29% were excessively late ! 2% of the flights were cancelled !!! So it is not surprising that they feel it is normal !!!
The interior colour sceme is very bright and brings you to the tropics very early indeed !
I said effectively. The stake is owned by a subsidiary directly owned by the government of France, not FP. FP is a colony, you should verify your facts.
Also, AF/KLM has three major shareholders the first is the French governemnt which is around 15%, the second is a trust created by the dutch-franco alliance group which is owned and splitted by netherland and france. The third is a consortium of countries of which france owns over 50%. The gov't of France owns over 35% directly of AF/KLM and virtually 100% of TN.

check your facts. MARURU ROA!!

I think that you are now stepping on eggs. DO NOT call my country a colony of France ! We are what we call in french a Pays d'Outre-Mer meaning that we have an actual autonomy within France. France doesn't rule Tahiti. We have our own, currency, our own flag, our own institution, our own president, our own parliament.
Further calling us a colony is very derogatory and unacceptable !
Now back to Air France/KLM... 18 % are own by the french state, 14% by the employees, 1% auto control, and the rest is floating market. France doesn't own a single share of Air Tahiti Nui either.

I think that you are now stepping on eggs. DO NOT call my country a colony of France ! We are what we call in french a Pays d'Outre-Mer meaning that we have an actual autonomy within France. France doesn't rule Tahiti. We have our own, currency, our own flag, our own institution, our own president, our own parliament.
Further calling us a colony is very derogatory and unacceptable !
Now back to Air France/KLM... 18 % are own by the french state, 14% by the employees, 1% auto control, and the rest is floating market. France doesn't own a single share of Air Tahiti Nui either.

OK THEN... The facts i already told them. Im sure a simple google search will show you, and perhaps you can learn something. Colony is what FP is to France, and its not derogatory its just a fact. Nonetheless the vanilla island resembles nothing like France ;) my favorite place in the south pacific.:)

ETA: about AF/KLM again the facts I laid out are correct +/-. AF/KLM has more preferred stock outstanding on a ROE ratio basis than their common. This is ONLY bcs of the involvement of the French government being a major stockholder so not to impose or neglect free-sky agreements that might not conform with EU protocols. Again, look it up, this information is readily available.

I just did a very generic google query and check it out with your own eyes:
http://www.isber.ucsb.edu/~blewalker/french_poly_research.htm

How about I was born and grew up in that "colony" !!! I don't need to google anything as I know French Polynesia ! Have you got any idea about the politics in Tahiti or not ??? Can you tell me why we are not part of the European Union eventho we are a french TERRITORY ?

Can you tell me why we are not part of the European Union eventho we are a french TERRITORY ?

I suspect it has a little bit to do with the fact that you're not in Europe.

As for the fare, sorry to see it's not bookable. Getting to French Polynesia on the cheap is very useful because staying there is definitely not.

How about I was born and grew up in that "colony" !!! I don't need to google anything as I know French Polynesia ! Have you got any idea about the politics in Tahiti or not ??? Can you tell me why we are not part of the European Union eventho we are a french TERRITORY ?

for obvious reasons your not part of the EU. What I cant tell you and perhaps you could, is why the French were allowed to test in mururoa...

You know what ??? I as a tahitian born french citizen of 33 who lived most of his life on that island will let you "win". Because you read something on google doesn't make you an expert... After reading the search you sent me I had to laugh really... most of what is written is not real, didn't happen or failed... Why don't you go and get me something that was written or researched by a tahitian person and not a foreigner...

This is a bogus fare. As you can tell by the fare basis, they're obviously testing something.

Plus, the fare was filed with conflicting fare rules that would make it impossible to actually price in the GDS. I'm presuming this was intentional to satisfy whatever testing they needed to accomplish.

e.g.03 RES/TKTG - RES MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE
DPTR OF FIRST SGMT. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO LATER
THAN 7 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 30 DAYS AFTER
RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING THIS
RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED.
------- RES MUST BE MADE NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS ‡
MD«
BEFORE DPTR OF FIRST SGMT. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO ‡
EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 3 DAYS
AFTER RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING
THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED.
and
12 TICKET RESTRICTIONS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED: ‡
BY TN ‡
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED:
BY TFP
TICKETS MUST NOT BE ISSUED:
BY PTA
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED

The strange thing is that they are actually testing this in the live system. The GDSes have many test partitions for exactly this type of thing. This is probably the first time I've ever seen such a thing.

Very interesting indeed.

The tests were done in Moruroa because in those days we WERE ruled by a french governor.
In 1984, a law implemented a first autonomy status. The Polynesian Territory could establish distinctive “national” symbols (like a flag and an anthem) to take place next to the French Republic emblems. The Territory’s executive chief was the President of the Government of French Polynesia. But the real autonomy was only finalized on January 24th, 2000.

Today, the French Polynesian Assembly adopts “laws” in more important sectors and not only administrative acts. French Polynesia is now a member of international organizations and has its own representation in foreign states.
This new overseas country’s (called in French a "POM" - Pays d’Outre-Mer) personality is characterized by a dual status

The French government : It remains in charge of the national defence, the maintain of the established order, the matters of nationality and immigration, justice, higher education, research, visual communication and currency. It is represented locally by a High-Commissioner who is responsible of the established order, the respect of the public freedom, and individual & collective rights.

The Territory government : All other sectors not listed above are directly under the responsibility of the French Polynesian government or can be transferred to it (local administration, primary and secondary education, taxes, foreign exchanges, prices...).

You know what ??? I as a tahitian born french citizen of 33 who lived most of his life on that island will let you "win". Because you read something on google doesn't make you an expert... After reading the search you sent me I had to laugh really... most of what is written is not real, didn't happen or failed... Why don't you go and get me something that was written or researched by a tahitian person and not a foreigner...

not looking to win and I appreciate FP 10000 times more than france.

Looking forward to come to your beautiful country once again. There is no place like vanilla island in this world. Ia Orana

SAT Lawyer,

I understand that we are not in Europe but why are Reunion Island, Martinique and Guadeloupe part of Europe when they are in the Indian Ocean and the Carribean ?

More info about the statute of French Polynesia

http://www.tahiti.com/english-version/about-tahiti/gen-resources/govmt-tahiti.htm

Anyway... We are all glad you guys would love to come to our islands wether on TN, AF, SB, HA NZ or LA !

Ia orana ia otou paatoa Ia orana te mau hoa here i to tatou fenua here no Tahiti !

Anyway... We are all glad you guys would love to come to our islands wether on TN, AF, SB, HA NZ or LA !

Ia orana ia otou paatoa Ia orana te mau hoa here i to tatou fenua here no Tahiti !

People are still adjusting to the idea of how POMs are not DOM-TOMs. :D

sorry, off topic deleting post
Bob

why would this discussion turned into a shouting match debating nationality? Go to a history forum if so desired.

The airline is SO BADLY and POORLy managed that it wouldn't suprise me that they would sell seats on their flights at that price !!!
You must know that TN's right hand has absolutely no idea what the left hand is doing and doesn't even know if there is a left or right foot !!!
They are having tons of problems with their aircrafts as of now... apparently 2 planes have gone tech and there is a crew stuck in AKL... Their 5 day trip ended being an 8 day one !!!
Also worth knowing... I have friends who checked in as nonrevs in LAX for a flight to PPT and were told that everything was fine and 2 hours before the plane was supposed to land in LAX from CDG they were told that they can't go as the flight actually never left CDG !!! How can they not know that their plane was stuck in CDG ???
Anyway, I'm happy that the fare doesn't exist as that poor airline really doesn't to bleed more money as is... Remember that they are at their 15th capital injection and have been flying for now 8 or 9 years...
hmmmmm....

this is the definition of a rambling post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, namely a cheap fare.

this is the definition of a rambling post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, namely a cheap fare.

You can say that again! ^

I have friends who checked in as nonrevs in LAX for a flight to PPT and were told that everything was fine and 2 hours before the plane was supposed to land in LAX from CDG they were told that they can't go as the flight actually never left CDG !!! How can they not know that their plane was stuck in CDG ???

This happened to me on ... QF. Plane left LAX 7 hours late but no one in SYD was aware of this. Spent a nice summer day in SYD when I could have been out in Sydney.

Because this fare turned out not to be bookable, any discussion will not be related to actually executing this routing, so any residual discussion is more appropriate in 'MR Discussion'!