Does anyone know whether Jet and Air India do any status matching? Am highest level on all 3 alliances (Exec Plat on AA, Plat on KL/AF and Gold on bmi) and want to expand into other programs.
Since most of my travel is NYC-BOM, Jet and Air India make sense. Would not want to forego the status bonus miles though

Does anyone know whether Jet and Air India do any status matching? Am highest level on all 3 alliances (Exec Plat on AA, Plat on KL/AF and Gold on bmi) and want to expand into other programs.
Since most of my travel is NYC-BOM, Jet and Air India make sense. Would not want to forego the status bonus miles thoughForget AI - I doubt that they would respond, but maybe a try is in order, if you can find out where the actual FF management office is, and visit them in BOM...(maybe I should give it a go too! (but the question is why I would even want to fly AI/IC, and what does status actually do on these airlines - can anyone report??))

You can try asking 9w - they are quite strict, but may consider...I wouldn't be too hung up on the bonus miles on Jet - miles are not that valuable on their program - although they changed some sectors' mileage requirements after I protested this many times!

Let us know how you fare, by posting back here. Good luck!

I wouldn't be too hung up on the bonus miles on Jet - miles are not that valuable on their program - although they changed some sectors' mileage requirements after I protested this many times!

Tell me more! Why are miles not valuable? The whole Dynamic Tier Review concept is also vague to me. How many miles do I need for Gold and Plat status?

Tell me more! Why are miles not valuable? The whole Dynamic Tier Review concept is also vague to me. How many miles do I need for Gold and Plat status?You can review their requirements for reward tickets online and compare with other global programs.

The DTR is very good - you get bumped up quickly if you take a lot of flights in a short period of time.

Gold/Plat: I have to check, but maybe it's on the website? :confused:

@anandrag: getting status matches is thrilling, but aware that to maintain gold, you have to credit quite a bit to these airlines in the next year, so choose your programs wisely. So if you do BD, 9W and AI matches this year, you'll most likely be left with no gold card end of next year. :)

@anandrag: getting status matches is thrilling, but aware that to maintain gold, you have to credit quite a bit to these airlines in the next year, so choose your programs wisely. So if you do BD, 9W and AI matches this year, you'll most likely be left with no gold card end of next year. :)

Fair enough. I already requalified for BD Gold for additional year with J class flights to BOM and LHR from JFK. Have 2-3 more trips to Asia this year, so should be able to get good mileage on 9W as well

The DTR is very good - you get bumped up quickly if you take a lot of flights in a short period of time.

Gold/Plat: I have to check, but maybe it's on the website? :confused:


Its not on website. So would roundtrip in J from JFK-BOM get me bumped immediately?

Its not on website. So would roundtrip in J from JFK-BOM get me bumped immediately?To what, and what status to you have right now?? :confused:

Edited to Add: You *will* see this on the Jet website, *if* you logged into your account and checked your statement - it would give you your current status and what would be required for upgrading to the next tier...

To what, and what status to you have right now?? :confused:

Edited to Add: You *will* see this on the Jet website, *if* you logged into your account and checked your statement - it would give you your current status and what would be required for upgrading to the next tier...

Since I actually do not even have a JP acct, tough to do. I would like to know how quickly I will go from base member to Gold and Plat. How many one-ways between NY and BOM?

Since I actually do not even have a JP acct, tough to do. I would like to know how quickly I will go from base member to Gold and Plat. How many one-ways between NY and BOM?No idea - I fly only *A out of India. Therefore, sign up for an account and/or e-mail: jetprivilege@jetairways.com

No idea - I fly only *A out of India

Assume there are others that do know

Assume there are others that do knowNever A S S U M E...I have found that there are almost *no* 9w members here (or the remaining ones just "lurk"), in comparison to the actual membership of the program, and thus, we do not have our own forum, at least so far....

Since I actually do not even have a JP acct, tough to do. I would like to know how quickly I will go from base member to Gold and Plat. How many one-ways between NY and BOM?

And what prevents you from signing up for an account so that you can see for yourself? :confused:

And what prevents you from signing up for an account so that you can see for yourself? :confused:

Not sure why there are so many confused responses here. As with any other forum, questions are asked of those that know. If you don't know, don't answer.

No reason for me to get acct, if I will never fly 9W due to unfavorable elite qualification tresholds. That's all I am trying to find out here

Some people just like showing their elite status cards to other people to make them believe that they actually flew all those miles to earn the cards they have!

:p

Some people just like showing their elite status cards to other people to make them believe that they actually flew all those miles to earn the cards they have!

:p

Some people maybe, but I earned all my status with butt in seat miles. Earned KL/AF and AA via flying. Was comped Gold on bmi, but have subsequently earned Gold for additional year via flying.

Same idea for Jet. Will give them my business but don't want to give up the elite bonus mileage

Same idea for Jet. Will give them my business but don't want to give up the elite bonus mileageWhat elite bonus mileage?? :p

That bonus doesn't even count towards status, as I recall!

Anyway, their rewards against mileage stink - I have never redeemed an award, and I have made 9w change (reduce) their BOM-SIN reward levels - by constantly mentioning that I would rather fly SQ (on a 773) with less miles than on Jet with a 737...

Anyway, their rewards against mileage stink - I have never redeemed an award, and I have made 9w change (reduce) their BOM-SIN reward levels - by constantly mentioning that I would rather fly SQ (on a 773) with less miles than on Jet with a 737...

I can't imagine that it stinks worse than AI's program... 9W and AI are now so much cheaper in J to India from NYC, that it is tough to justify the extra $$ to fly another airline. Other option that comes closest in cost (but still quite a bit more expensive) is AY. They have 11 hr layover in HEL (to BOM) though...

I can't imagine that it stinks worse than AI's program... 9W and AI are now so much cheaper in J to India from NYC, that it is tough to justify the extra $$ to fly another airline. Other option that comes closest in cost (but still quite a bit more expensive) is AY. They have 11 hr layover in HEL (to BOM) though...What are the going rates, if you don't mind me asking??

9w is quite pricey ex-BOM...

Edited to Add: TK lowest and SU a close second...

Just tried looking for 9w fares, and the lowest (Z) I see filed is USD 6201! :eek:

What are the going rates, if you don't mind me asking??

9w is quite pricey ex-BOM...

Not at all. This is for NYC-BOM-NYC in J (or C or D, ehich ever is lowest available) and obviously depends on dates. For my dates in ~2 weeks:
* $4K on AI (J) on non-stop
* $4600 on AI (C) on non-stop
* $5900 on 9W
* $6500 on EK (which also has horrible mileage program)
* LH, AF, BA, etc all over $7K

Not at all. This is for NYC-BOM-NYC in J (or C or D, ehich ever is lowest available) and obviously depends on dates. For my dates in ~2 weeks:
* $4K on AI (J) on non-stop
* $4600 on AI (C) on non-stop
* $5900 on 9W
* $6500 on EK (which also has horrible mileage program)
* LH, AF, BA, etc all over $7KDoes this include taxes?

TK is 32xx without taxes..

You can get LX for 4k or thereabouts, if you try and if there is availability....same with OS...

Does this include taxes?

TK is 32xx without taxes..

You can get LX for 4k or thereabouts, if you try and if there is availability....same with OS...


With taxes.

Have never seen LX for that low, but could be because my plans only get confirmed 2-3 weeks prior. Did fly LX last time to BOM (3 weeks ago) and seats are a nightmare. Recline 130 or so degrees and very uncomfortable. Not a fan at all. Vowed never to fly them again

For some reason, OS doesnt even show up on lists. Not sure why. Any experience with them in J?

For some reason, OS doesnt even show up on lists. Not sure why. Any experience with them in J?Seen the OS seats from the back! :p

Narrower than LH, but quite nice, I think...similar to what SK has??

Food is probably better than LH, as it is in Y...

Edited to Add: Here are the OS rates:

NYC New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
BOM Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
RT Oct-Sep

Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
OS NYC BOM 4089 USD Wed 1M JSPCL
OS NYC BOM 6796 USD Sun 1M DRE
OS NYC BOM 8296 USD CR
OS NYC BOM 8556 USD 12M DOE

Try www.aua.com

Also, VIE is a much calmer airport than FRA...

Seen the OS seats from the back! :p

Narrower than LH, but quite nice, I think...similar to what SK has??

Food is probably better than LH, as it is in Y...

Edited to Add: Here are the OS rates:

NYC New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
BOM Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
RT Oct-Sep

Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
OS NYC BOM 4089 USD Wed 1M JSPCL
OS NYC BOM 6796 USD Sun 1M DRE
OS NYC BOM 8296 USD CR
OS NYC BOM 8556 USD 12M DOE

Also, VIE is a much calmer airport than FRA...


$4100 is doable. Maybe will try them one way and 9W the other

$4100 is doable. Maybe will try them one way and 9W the other(excluding taxes...)

Soooooo, back to the original thread topic :) ...does anyone know whether or not Jet Airways' JP Program will offer a status match for a United 1K?

Soooooo, back to the original thread topic :) ...does anyone know whether or not Jet Airways' JP Program will offer a status match for a United 1K?I doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to try! ;)

(however, since most of their status members get their status by *flying* 9w, I do not think that they would bend the rules for a status match)

Soooooo, back to the original thread topic :) ...does anyone know whether or not Jet Airways' JP Program will offer a status match for a United 1K?

AFAIK - 9W does not have a status match program at all - so you can almost entirely forget about a match. Here's the extract from 9W's elite page:

The Dynamic Tier Review (DTR) System - A world first!

With the DTR System, we will be able to provide JP members with quicker tier upgrades as well as more opportunities to retain their tier status.

Two opportunities for Tier qualification
The new programme continues to offer members two opportunities to qualify for an upgrade to the next tier, as in the past programme. Tier qualification is based on:

• Status JPMiles earned or
• The number of Jet Airways flights taken by a member


Upgrades To A Higher Tier
With DTR, you have a 12-month time span. This is not within a static frame of the financial year. DTR will, on a daily basis, review tier activities in the preceding 12 months. This means that the time frame of 12 months continuously slides a day ahead, with each new calendar date. An upgrade under this 12-month review period is known as a Standard Upgrade.

If a member meets the applicable criteria in a shorter period of time due to a very high frequency of travel, the DTR System will Fast Track the member’s upgrade to a higher tier within just six months!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tier Upgrade Criteria

Tier change | 6-month criteria - FAST TRACK UPGRADE Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles | 12-month criteria - STANDARD UPGRADE Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles

Blue to Blue Plus | 10 / 15,000 | Not Applicable
Blue Plus to Silver | Not Applicable | 20 / 30,000
Silver to Gold | 20 / 30,000 | 40 / 60,000
Gold to Platinum | 30 / 45,000 | 60 / 90,000
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Retention Of Tier
With DTR, retaining tier is a flexible process for members. At the end of your tier validity, the DTR will review the tier activity in your account recorded in the preceding 12-month period. As long as you have achieved the required number of Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles within the 12-month assessment period, your tier will be retained for an additional 12-month period.

In addition to the preceding 12-month time frame, the DTR will also stretch to review your tier activities over the preceding 18 months as well as the preceding 24 months. These additional flexible time frame evaluations are in appreciation of your continued relationship with us. What’s more, we also give a slight reduction in the tier requirement on the longer criteria periods.

For example: While a member needs to record 60 Jet Airways flights in 12 months to retain his Platinum tier, in 18 months, technically he would require 90 Jet Airways flights, however as per the DTR System he is required to do only 84 Jet Airways flights.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------Tier
Retention Criteria

Tier to be retained | 12-month criteria Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles | 18-month criteria Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles | 24-month criteria
Jet Airways flights / Status JPMiles

Blue Plus | 15 / 22,500 | Not Applicable | Not Applicable
Silver | 20 / 30,000 | 28 / 42,000 | 36 / 54,000
Gold | 40 / 60,000 | 56 / 84,000 | 72 / 108,000
Platinum | 60 / 90,000 | 84 / 126,000 | 108 / 162,000
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Whilst your JP tier will be valid for a period of only 12 months, your JP membership card will have an extended validity of one extra month! This is to ensure that you do not miss out on any benefits during the tier change process.


I've had to use the pipe character | to differentiate the columns - as I'm clueless on drawing up tables on this forum.

HTH!

To add to my previous post - the best way to check if they'll do a status match for UA is to call their USA phone numbers (1-877-uflyjet) - as they might have a status match just for the US.

Also the page that I've quoted above is from the 9W website - so it's nothing I've put together.

AFAIK - 9W does not have a status match program at all - so you can almost entirely forget about a match.

I got shot down hard...

"Dear Mr. XXX,

This is with reference to your email, we apologise for the delay in our response.

Regarding your request for upgrading of your JetPrivilege tier status to Platinum ,we are sure you will appreciate that for any reward based programme to function effectively the presence of certain qualifiers that can be applied at regular intervals is essential.

If we were to extend the Platinum benefits indefinitely, JetPrivilege members who would have flown frequently for one year and then stopped flying frequently, would also enjoy the same benefits the current frequent flyers enjoy. This may prevent us from identifying our frequent flyers and delivering the elite tier services to them.We are sure our frequent fliers would also not appreciate our programme if everyone enjoyed the same benefits irrespective of quantum of travel.

Whilst we do appreciate your request for an upgrade of your JetPrivilege tier status, we regret we will not be able to do so.

We trust you will appreciate acceding to your request would be unfair to our other members and request your understanding of our position on this issue.

Notwithstanding the above, we look forward to welcoming you on board a Jet Airways flight soon and your continued support and patronage.

Should you require any further information or assistance, please call us on 3989-3333 (from Bengaluru, Chennai, Delhi, Hyderabad, Kolkata and Mumbai). From other cities, please affix your respective local code before dialing the call centre number. Our Toll Free number for UK residents is 0808 101 1199"

I got shot down hard...

"Dear Mr. xxxxx


You should probably edit your real name out of there...a simple Google search throws up a lot of information about you, including reason to believe you once went to the school I now attend :p

You should probably edit your real name out of there...a simple Google search throws up a lot of information about you, including reason to believe you once went to the school I now attend :pYou gave it up too, Savage!! :D (partially)

For an airline which is a new entrant for in european and US travel the staff appear to be particularly obstinate in status matching. They send a template letter refusing any logic.
The fares charged by Jet airways in premier classes are higher than even AA or BA and I do not see how they can survive for long with a crappy FF program and high fares.
The AA.COM engine frequently comes up with 9W fares which are better than fares from Jet airways web site.

For an airline which is a new entrant for in european and US travel the staff appear to be particularly obstinate in status matching. They send a template letter refusing any logic.Sorry, Dr. Bala, but that means that they are protecting their elites (better for us ^), and only those who *actually* fly on board and earn their status are given this benefit - not like all others who, for a song and a dance, give status away...

The fares charged by Jet airways in premier classes are higher than even AA or BA and I do not see how they can survive for long with a crappy FF program and high fares.Actually, they are running completely full in most business classes, surprisingly, and appear to be catering to the loyal Indian flyer! However, I suspect that there might be some substantial discounts provided to large corporates (such as what LH does for Reliance) and/or consolidators.

If anyone knows of any deals like that, PM me! Thanks!

I agree that the FF program is not the best for earning miles and/or upgrades, but the status itself has many benefits, such as op-ups, lounges, treatment in general, etc.

And what prevents you from signing up for an account so that you can see for yourself? :confused:

While that may be needed, I think it is not prospect/customer friendly.

India based carriers are still learning the ABCs of CRM (Customer Relationship Mgmt) and CEM (Customer Experience Mgmt). You will rarely find a global top tier airline that does not provide extensive information about elite tiers, tier qualification, tier benefits, etc. to non-members. Check out AA, UA, CX, LH, BA, etc. As a member you may get some incremental info or special offer but most of the key information is there for all to lust for and want to become an eite.

Jet is learning the ropes. They are new to international networks.

I think it is unreasonable to expect someone to sign up before giving basic information. Jet will learn to provide better web experience.

For an airline which is a new entrant for in european and US travel the staff appear to be particularly obstinate in status matching. They send a template letter refusing any logic.
The fares charged by Jet airways in premier classes are higher than even AA or BA and I do not see how they can survive for long with a crappy FF program and high fares.
The AA.COM engine frequently comes up with 9W fares which are better than fares from Jet airways web site.

= I personally dont see anything wrong with this. 9W is a premium airline and does not need to devalue its product and succumb to the interest of mid-managers and usual Y fliers who can get an easy route to a status match. I think they are right - if you want to earn the privileges of 9W elite, fly them.

And, their J and F class cabins are doing extremely well ex-USA. I Just flew them to BRU in J and load was 100% ex-EWR ... F load was 90%!

Cheers,
A.

= I personally dont see anything wrong with this. 9W is a premium airline and does not need to devalue its product and succumb to the interest of mid-managers and usual Y fliers who can get an easy route to a status match. I think they are right - if you want to earn the privileges of 9W elite, fly them.

And, their J and F class cabins are doing extremely well ex-USA. I Just flew them to BRU in J and load was 100% ex-EWR ... F load was 90%!

Cheers,
A.9w:

Just like SQ: Do not compromise on rules for status/op-ups! ^

Unlike SQ: Listen to customer feedback and *implement* changes! ^ ^

And, their J and F class cabins are doing extremely well ex-USA. I Just flew them to BRU in J and load was 100% ex-EWR ... F load was 90%!

Every cabin towards India in Dec is full. 'tis the season...

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= I personally dont see anything wrong with this. 9W is a premium airline and does not need to devalue its product and succumb to the interest of mid-managers and usual Y fliers who can get an easy route to a status match. I think they are right - if you want to earn the privileges of 9W elite, fly them.

And, their J and F class cabins are doing extremely well ex-USA. I Just flew them to BRU in J and load was 100% ex-EWR ... F load was 90%!

Cheers,
A.

Can you quote any peer reviews which class 9W a premium aitline. It is not enough to have good in flight service and new aircraft to be a premier airline. You need good ground service, good web site, good FF program, good airport lounges and passenger acceptance to be termed a Premier airline. I definitely would call BA,AA,SQ, VS , CO, LH and CX as prmier and Silverjet and EOS very close . 9W is no where there. They are nothing but a glorified Air India.
I just flew BOM-LHR and there were 10 passengers in Business class and 2 in First class. They have no arrivals lounge or facility in LHR. My seat did not recline and the food quality was amazingly mediocre. One swallow does not make summer and one Dom Perignon does not make a premium airline.They are getting very close to AI's standards and their fares are much higher than AI.
Elite flyers are more comfortable with their own preferred airline and why should I fly 9W when AA offers me double miles and extremely preferential treatment including unlimited domestic upgrade, 8 EVIPs per year and the best lounge access in the world. Status match meand matching existing status for equal status and middlemanagers and Y flyers do not have status to match. Probably you mean political staus as in India

Can you quote any peer reviews which class 9W a premium aitline. It is not enough to have good in flight service and new aircraft to be a premier airline. You need good ground service, good web site, good FF program, good airport lounges and passenger acceptance to be termed a Premier airline. I definitely would call BA,AA,SQ, VS , CO, LH and CX as prmier and Silverjet and EOS very close . 9W is no where there. They are nothing but a glorified Air India.
I just flew BOM-LHR and there were 10 passengers in Business class and 2 in First class. They have no arrivals lounge or facility in LHR. My seat did not recline and the food quality was amazingly mediocre. One swallow does not make summer and one Dom Perignon does not make a premium airline.They are getting very close to AI's standards and their fares are much higher than AI.
Elite flyers are more comfortable with their own preferred airline and why should I fly 9W when AA offers me double miles and extremely preferential treatment including unlimited domestic upgrade, 8 EVIPs per year and the best lounge access in the world. Status match meand matching existing status for equal status and middlemanagers and Y flyers do not have status to match. Probably you mean political staus as in India

I disagree. Classifying AA and CO as "premium" airlines is laughable - and if AA has good lounge access around the world, it is only due to Oneworld, because it has limited coverage outside of North America, and its domestic lounges are pretty dire when compared to other international airlines. On the main topic - that of 9W, little question that work needs to be done on the international rollout, but the product itself in J and F to India (and remember, that is the key - SQ may be better from LAX to SIN, but that is not the right comparison) exceeds most of the other airlines you have mentioned in quality. All airlines have to deal with the unique hell that is LHR, and any airline flying into one of the Indian hubs is the same as the other in terms of ground support and handling.

You are happy with AA because it has a networked FF program that you can take advantage of - but of course, 9W is not in that position (yet). So you are comparing apples to oranges. If 9W goes Oneworld (which may happen, given AI's accession to Star), I suspect you will quickly change your tune.

I just flew BOM-LHR and there were 10 passengers in Business class and 2 in First class... My seat did not recline...

Did you consider changing seats then? :p

I disagree. Classifying AA and CO as "premium" airlines is laughable

Exactly my emotion when I read that! I am Exec PLT on AA should be their most valuable customer. Treatment does not reflect that at all. In fact, my OW Emerald status gets me better treatment from BA and CX than from source of my status (AA).

Jet has much to do, but one of the largest pet peeves for most of us on US based airlines (lack of service levels from FAs, FA surliness, etc) is NOT a problem with Jet

Classifying AA and CO as "premium" airlines is laughable...

I agree and laugh along :D

I agree and laugh along :D

If it joins Oneworld I would definitely change my opinion.
It is even more laughable to call JET a premium airline.

Did you consider changing seats then? :p

It shows chinks in Jet's maintenance. A brand new aircraft and the much touted seat not working! Sound familiar Air India

I disagree. Classifying AA and CO as "premium" airlines is laughable - and if AA has good lounge access around the world, it is only due to Oneworld, because it has limited coverage outside of North America, and its domestic lounges are pretty dire when compared to other international airlines. On the main topic - that of 9W, little question that work needs to be done on the international rollout, but the product itself in J and F to India (and remember, that is the key - SQ may be better from LAX to SIN, but that is not the right comparison) exceeds most of the other airlines you have mentioned in quality. All airlines have to deal with the unique hell that is LHR, and any airline flying into one of the Indian hubs is the same as the other in terms of ground support and handling.

You are happy with AA because it has a networked FF program that you can take advantage of - but of course, 9W is not in that position (yet). So you are comparing apples to oranges. If 9W goes Oneworld (which may happen, given AI's accession to Star), I suspect you will quickly change your tune.
I suggest you fly SQ from SIN-Australia, SIN-London and SIN to New York, SFO and LAX before making comments.
I agree LHR is hell but if you fly Virgin they receive you at your limo, take you through a separate security path and you are in the lounge in 10 minutes. Have you been in a Virgin lounge? Their Bombay upper class fare is cheaper now than Jet's. If Virgin can make LHR a heaven why not Jet make BOM a heaven? Have you transited Frankfurt in First class by Lufthasa and even in BOM have you seen BA's new lounge and check in service. You acn always blame the airport but when many truly PREMIUM airlines create their own facilities Jet has yet to learn the niceties of the game.
Airline sevice is not only on ground but on all aspects. If you ring EXP desk your telephone is lifted in two rings and you are greeted by name. Have you telephoned Jet in India? Any Admiral's club is miles better than Jet lounge in Bombay only time in my 2 million miles of flying I had to stand up waiting to get a seat in Jet BOM lounge. By the way Jet premium status is purchaseable. If you have an Indian Issued Jet airways credit card you get free upgrades etc etc. I am really comparing apples to apples and the International arena is tough and changes day by day.

I suggest you fly SQ from SIN-Australia, SIN-London and SIN to New York, SFO and LAX before making comments.
I agree LHR is hell but if you fly Virgin they receive you at your limo, take you through a separate security path and you are in the lounge in 10 minutes. Have you been in a Virgin lounge? Their Bombay upper class fare is cheaper now than Jet's. If Virgin can make LHR a heaven why not Jet make BOM a heaven? Have you transited Frankfurt in First class by Lufthasa and even in BOM have you seen BA's new lounge and check in service. You acn always blame the airport but when many truly PREMIUM airlines create their own facilities Jet has yet to learn the niceties of the game.
Airline sevice is not only on ground but on all aspects. If you ring EXP desk your telephone is lifted in two rings and you are greeted by name. Have you telephoned Jet in India? Any Admiral's club is miles better than Jet lounge in Bombay only time in my 2 million miles of flying I had to stand up waiting to get a seat in Jet BOM lounge. By the way Jet premium status is purchaseable. If you have an Indian Issued Jet airways credit card you get free upgrades etc etc. I am really comparing apples to apples and the International arena is tough and changes day by day.

Um - I don't know why you hate Jet so much, but you are still comparing apples to oranges. If I look at airlines flying to India (and THAT is the comparison, not other irrelevant ones you have suggested), it is a better choice for now than many of the others you mention with the possible exception of SQ (and even on SQ, you will not see the fabled SQ service on most of the routes ex-India). It doesn't mean it is a premium airline in all respects, but it is very good on routes to and from India, which is where they fly. And they are better than AA on this route in every way.

VS can make LHR heaven, but they can't fix BOM, which everyone has to deal with. They have no premium facilities there, my friend.

Um - I don't know why you hate Jet so much, but you are still comparing apples to oranges. If I look at airlines flying to India (and THAT is the comparison, not other irrelevant ones you have suggested), it is a better choice for now than many of the others you mention with the possible exception of SQ (and even on SQ, you will not see the fabled SQ service on most of the routes ex-India). It doesn't mean it is a premium airline in all respects, but it is very good on routes to and from India, which is where they fly. And they are better than AA on this route in every way.

VS can make LHR heaven, but they can't fix BOM, which everyone has to deal with. They have no premium facilities there, my friend.

Please read other learned people's opinion.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=772017
BA has an excellent facility in Bombay with a separate lounge, nice check in area and the premier passengers escorted thro immigration and security by their ground crew. They also have meet and greet service in LHR and their arrival lounge in LHR is one of the best. BA and Virgin are Jet's direct competitors. Bombay happens to be Jet's home city and they should try and do what VS doing instaed of trying to join them

Please read other learned people's opinion.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=772017
BA has an excellent facility in Bombay with a separate lounge, nice check in area and the premier passengers escorted thro immigration and security by their ground crew. They also have meet and greet service in LHR and their arrival lounge in LHR is one of the best. BA and Virgin are Jet's direct competitors. Bombay happens to be Jet's home city and they should try and do what VS doing instaed of trying to join them

Sorry, but a chain of messages on the topic "Thank You AA" is not responsive to my point, nor indicative of "learned opinion". I do think that BA is pretty good if you are in J or F to India (except you still have to transfer at LHR) but Mumbai is the only Indian location where they have their own lounge - you are in third party lounges elsewhere, and they suck. We'll have to agree to disagree, I'm afraid, and stop boring others with our views.

Sorry, but a chain of messages on the topic "Thank You AA" is not responsive to my point, nor indicative of "learned opinion". I do think that BA is pretty good if you are in J or F to India (except you still have to transfer at LHR) but Mumbai is the only Indian location where they have their own lounge - you are in third party lounges elsewhere, and they suck. We'll have to agree to disagree, I'm afraid, and stop boring others with our views.

My only issue is 9W being branded a PREMIUM airline
For your info


3 Star Airlines : 2007


3 Star airline JAT Airways

3 Star airline Jazeera Airways

3 Star airline Jet Airways

3 Star airline Kenya Airways

5 STAR AIRLINES : 2007

5 Star Rating Asiana Airlines

5 Star Rating Kingfisher Airlines

5 Star Rating Malaysia Airlines



5 Star Rating Qatar Airways

5 Star Rating Singapore Airlines

5 Star Rating Cathay Pacific Airways
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Umm.. what, precisely, do those (I guess) skytrax ratings prove?

Umm.. what, precisely, do those (I guess) skytrax ratings prove?

Not a lot, particularly given that other airlines that the poster has identified as "premium" in his view (like LH, AA and CO) are also 3* in the survey. You can see the full list here: http://www.airlinequality.com/Airlines/AirlineA-Z.htm#j

BA has an excellent facility in Bombay with a separate lounge, nice check in area and the premier passengers escorted thro immigration and security by their ground crew.

The lounge is totally overrated. it is just a seperate area attached to Clipper lounge. It is always bursting at seams with little place to sit. I have flown BA half dozen times out of BOM over last 2 years and have less than 50% hit ratein getting escorted through immigration and security. They don't have enough staff for that when F and J are full. Love BA as airline, but BOM is very average (like all other airlines that use BOM)