Folks at Stockholm or Oslo can enjoy this convenience. When can the Finns? ERJ-145 (of FC) could do the job as well as E70s (in a couple years time maybe also E90s).
It seems a bit of waste to fly at 15 minute intervals from HEL to LHR (BA 7.45 and AY 8.00) and back in the evening (AY 18.05 and BA 18.20). Have you seen both of these booked full very often?
trsqr
Aug 24, 07, 2:14 am
It seems a bit of waste to fly at 15 minute intervals from HEL to LHR (BA 7.45 and AY 8.00) and back in the evening (AY 18.05 and BA 18.20). Have you seen both of these booked full very often?
At least the AY flight has been quite full (sometimes completely full) in the evening and I assume that the BA flights have quite healthy loads as well.
-olli
JuPe
Aug 24, 07, 2:16 am
It seems a bit of waste to fly at 15 minute intervals from HEL to LHR (BA 7.45 and AY 8.00) and back in the evening (AY 18.05 and BA 18.20). Have you seen both of these booked full very often?
This has happened once to me before when I didn't have any status, so I had to fly a day earlier. On some days those morning and evening flights can be very busy with transiting passengers. If I had to fly just to London, LCY would be a perfect option.
NoWindowSeat
Aug 24, 07, 6:27 am
In my experience both evening flights are usually quite full, as are the morning departures ex-HEL. Why do you think the two partners are flying all those LHR-HEL flights? Would they do it with empty planes? Just stupid thinking to me...
kaiflyer
Aug 24, 07, 7:45 am
LCY - HEL for me at the moment wouldn't make much difference, but if I was still based in LON (or HEL) I would love this option. LCY is a gem! I would definitely pay a premium on these flights.
Moving OT:
The other day going through LGW recalled one flight I had booked on AY from LGW years ago. Never got to fly this route as it was dropped immediately after 9/11...
Not sure about this, but does LGW offer a greater proximity to any businesses with regular travel to HEL? Would this be an option for AY? I know a few people who travel to HEL from LGW with SN, connecting at BRU. Although these are leisure passangers, I have a feeling south of England has quite a large ex-fin population...
TTL
Aug 24, 07, 10:42 am
Not sure about this, but does LGW offer a greater proximity to any businesses with regular travel to HEL? Would this be an option for AY? I know a few people who travel to HEL from LGW with SN, connecting at BRU. Although these are leisure passangers, I have a feeling south of England has quite a large ex-fin population...
DFW at least used to be the North-American destination no 1 for Nokia-people. Other interesting connections would include HOU, ATL and ORL.
JuPe
Aug 24, 07, 3:33 pm
DFW at least used to be the North-American destination no 1 for Nokia-people. Other interesting connections would include HOU, ATL and ORL.
Many of these destinations are moving to LHR (don't remember when). HEL-LHR-DFW on AY/BA would be a very good option to the current AY/AA HEL-JFK-DFW (just can't stand AA).
mosburger
Aug 25, 07, 6:22 pm
A 10 am LCY-HEL flight would be quite ideal. No point in an early morning connection with the two hour time difference and that would still leave room to catch Asian and Baltic/Russian onward flights.
Return then around 7-8 pm to give pax time for a late City dinner and enough lounge rest if they are coming from Asian longhauls or the perils of Moscow/St.Pete.
nordic
Sep 1, 07, 11:59 am
LCY-HEL would be a nice addition. However, I do not think Emraers have received approval for the City airport yet. I have also wondered the scheduldes of AY and BA flights. There could surely be a 60 minutes difference between the flights. A better option from LHR would be 6 pm and 7 pm departures. And from HEL departures at 7.45 am and 8.45 am. There shouldn't be major slot problems with BA involved.
GetAA81Back2ARN
Sep 1, 07, 3:05 pm
LCY-HEL would be a nice addition. However, I do not think Emraers have received approval for the City airport yet. I have also wondered the scheduldes of AY and BA flights. There could surely be a 60 minutes difference between the flights. A better option from LHR would be 6 pm and 7 pm departures. And from HEL departures at 7.45 am and 8.45 am. There shouldn't be major slot problems with BA involved.
Probably crew scheduling has something to do with it?
The crew flying the BA795 arrives on the BA flight coming into HEL at 17:30 the previous evening. Minimum crew rest (allowing for some delays) probably do that BA can't leave earlier - even though I think they probably would.
AY on the other hand wants to ensure they get a flight into LHR that can bring passengers onto their longhaul flights to Asia. Preferably on their own metal to get the best yeilds. If AY would wait another hour leaving they wouldn't get back to HEL until 16:15 which is cutting the connections fairly tight. (And AY can probably not get a slot at any time they want!)
I think the strange thing is that BA actually has a flight in HEL (and that AY has one in LHR) as that means several crews staying on hotels etc.