Are there any modern, luxury hotels in Long Island?

I love Amans...but can't find anything close to them anywhere near NYC.

I believe that there will be a better response if I move this to the NYC Forum.
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Luxury Hotels

The Garden City Hotel is about as close as you will get.

www.gardencityhotel.com

LOL, ain't no Amans in LI.

just so you don't sound too foreign, we say "on Long Island" not "in"

and it is pronounced "lawn guylandt"

there is nothing here super nice for you

"luxury" means renting a home in the hamptons for $10k - or $50k- a week!

but you will of course bring your own staff- to properly pamper you

just so you don't sound too foreign, we say "on Long Island" not "in"

and it is pronounced "lawn guylandt"

there is nothing here super nice for you

"luxury" means renting a home in the hamptons for $10k - or $50k- a week!

but you will of course bring your own staff- to properly pamper you

We do say "on Long Island", but only uneducationed Amy Fisher types say lawn Guylandt... :mad:But the earlier poster about the Garden City Hotel being the only 5 star hotel near NYC, is correct.

The Garden City Hotel is about as close as you will get.

www.gardencityhotel.com

Thanks!

"but only uneducationed Amy Fisher types say lawn Guylandt..."

how did you discover my identity??

remember LI is huge- are you looking for a resorty-type area (Hamptons?) -at least a 2-hour drive east or do you LOVE Roosevelt Field Mall- 10 minutes away?

tell us where you want to be and we may have ideas- not 5-star, but the best available

tell us where you want to be and we may have ideas- not 5-star, but the best available

Thanks - I've decided to go elsewhere as I couldn't find anything really resorty or suitably relaxing..!

I don't know what Amans is but Long Island isn't really known for its hotels. And there is no "Long Island, NY". LI isn't merely one town. ;)

If you want a resort on the beach, there's always Gurney's. http://www.gurneysinn.com/main.htm

I don't know what Amans is but Long Island isn't really known for its hotels. And there is no "Long Island, NY". LI isn't merely one town. ;)

If you want a resort on the beach, there's always Gurney's. http://www.gurneysinn.com/main.htm

I was referring to Aman Resorts eg http://www.amanjena.com

I was referring to Aman Resorts eg http://www.amanjena.comYou really thought you'd find a Balinese type resort on the northeastern Atlantic coastline? ;)

I don't know what Amans is but Long Island isn't really known for its hotels. And there is no "Long Island, NY". LI isn't merely one town. ;)

If you want a resort on the beach, there's always Gurney's. http://www.gurneysinn.com/main.htm

Of course there's a Long Island, NY. Look at a map.
;)

The Hamptons don't seem to want any more hotels (I guess it takes away from the exlcusive atmosphere). There are some decent B&B's though.

The Hamptons don't seem to want any more hotels (I guess it takes away from the exlcusive atmosphere). There are some decent B&B's though.

I think anyone who opened up a hotel in Southampton of even Starwood quality would make a killing.

The Southampton Inn is a glorified Holiday Inn (sorry for the insult, HI) and the Village Latch Inn is a self-righteous, pompous hell-hole.

Can you imagine that these hallmarks of the "hospitality industry" don't even have broadband internet in the rooms?

As some moron at the Village Latch once told me, "Our people don't come here to use their computers." :td::mad:

I think anyone who opened up a hotel in Southampton of even Starwood quality would make a killing.The Town of Southampton would block a Starwood or any other hotel of its ilk from the area as would the Town of East Hampton.

The Town of Southampton would block a Starwood or any other hotel of its ilk from the area as would the Town of East Hampton.

and bridge and montauk and quogue and west.

My g/f and I want to spend a Friday to Sunday on Long Island Sept 21-23. Long walks on nice beach, horseback riding, and wine tasting are our favorites. We thought about Montauk but it is pretty far. Where should we go and where should we stay? I am overwhelmed. We have a budget of $100-130 a night for accomodation. We thought about camping on Fire Island but you can't get there except by Ferry and we don't want to carry everything in. We just want simple and relaxing time together. Any suggestions? We really could use some accurate first hand experience to point us to the right place.

The Town of Southampton would block a Starwood or any other hotel of its ilk from the area as would the Town of East Hampton.

and bridge and montauk and quogue and west.

I have no doubt both of you are right and that they would try and do that. Whether there are the legal means to do so, I have some doubt.

If you are aware of some statute that prohibits such hotels, do let me know.

Remember, that Southampton also thought they had the right to "block" a synagogue from opening up. Among real estate lawyers, the question discussed is whether or not the synagogue is going to ask for monetary damages once the case is over.

My g/f and I want to spend a Friday to Sunday on Long Island Sept 21-23. Long walks on nice beach, horseback riding, and wine tasting are our favorites. We thought about Montauk but it is pretty far. Where should we go and where should we stay? I am overwhelmed. We have a budget of $100-130 a night for accomodation. We thought about camping on Fire Island but you can't get there except by Ferry and we don't want to carry everything in. We just want simple and relaxing time together. Any suggestions? We really could use some accurate first hand experience to point us to the right place.

The more specific you can be, the easier it will be for folks here to help you. First, what is the maximum distance, from say, the Queens-Midtown Tunnel or Penn Station you wish to travel?

Second, when you say horseback riding, do you mean, trail riding, arena riding, parks, jumping, lessons, what?

Third, as to wine tastings, there is, believe it or not, such a thing as Long Island wine. Did you want to visit local wineries or just go to wine tastings? I have gone to lots of wine tastings in Manhattan, for example.

Here is an article from The New York Times that ran in July on the subject of Long Island wine tastings: http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F10B1FFD3B5A0C7A8CDDAE0894DF404482

The maximum distance I would like to travel is 2 hours by car. If possible, I would like to go trail riding for 2 hours, however, that is not as important as being able to walk on a nice beach with soft sand, enjoy a picnic on sand dunes, and visit a vineyard and do a wine tasting.

We prefer to relax, enjoy fresh ocean breezes, watch the sunset, go out to have a nice dinner. We don't know Long Island at all. There are so much info on the web it is overwhelming. We are considering New Jersey shores as well I hear the beaches there are also quite nice. Thanks.

I have no doubt both of you are right and that they would try and do that. Whether there are the legal means to do so, I have some doubt.

If you are aware of some statute that prohibits such hotels, do let me know.Zoning laws....but they aren't as stringent as say in Nantucket. Try building a high-rise Sheraton out there...in red brick. :p

The maximum distance I would like to travel is 2 hours by car. If possible, I would like to go trail riding for 2 hours, however, that is not as important as being able to walk on a nice beach with soft sand, enjoy a picnic on sand dunes, and visit a vineyard and do a wine tasting.

We prefer to relax, enjoy fresh ocean breezes, watch the sunset, go out to have a nice dinner. We don't know Long Island at all. There are so much info on the web it is overwhelming. We are considering New Jersey shores as well I hear the beaches there are also quite nice. Thanks.

Until someone with greater knowledge of Long Island steps up to advise you, let me just toss the following suggestion on the table.

Just this afternoon, I was looking for a new place to go riding, myself. I visited the Jamaica Bay Riding Academy in Brooklyn not too far from JFK, http://www.horsebackride.com/jb/home.php

They are located in the Gateway National Recreation area and you can ride:


on the beach;
on the trail;
in the outdoor arena; and
in the indoor arena.


This place was recommended to me by someone I met from Manhattan who told me she has been going there for several years.

While I haven't yet ridden there (hopefully next week), I did like what I saw.

This gives you the opportunity to stay in New York City where you can surely find a few places to taste wine.

Again, I am sure someone with more knowledge of Long Island will come in with another suggestion.

Zoning laws....but they aren't as stringent as say in Nantucket. Try building a high-rise Sheraton out there...in red brick. :p

Zoning of this nature is an invitation to litigation. That's the same thing they tried with the Southampton Jewish Center.

As Hamptons houses get bigger and bigger to occupy multi-acre palatial estates, it becomes more and more difficult to argue to "zone out" commercial development. Have you seen Bridgehampton Commons?

Sooner or later, people will come to their senses and realize that a nice hotel brings with it jobs for local residents and tax dollars for local government.

I am reminded of the opening of Fairway in Red Hook in 2006. The people who were against it were not the natives of Red Hook.

The New York Law Journal recently did a piece on the "legal team" opposing the Atlantic Yards project. They all have one thing in common--they came to Brooklyn from Manhattan and now they don't want Brooklyn to change. I'm totally against their views.

And make that double for the Ikea Brooklyn project as well. Even though I am not their target customer, I support their project.

I am leaning towards staying two days in Montauk and after that make our way up to North Fork towns like Peconic and Southold to visit some vineyards. Any hotel or BnB recommendations?

I am leaning towards staying two days in Montauk and after that make our way up to North Fork towns like Peconic and Southold to visit some vineyards. Any hotel or BnB recommendations?

I might suggest the Montauk Manor. It's one of the fancier places in Montauk and you might be able to stay within your budget now that it is the off-season.

Montauk Yacht Club is nice, but gets mixed reviews and is probably more than you want to spend.

My biggest beef with Montauk, and I am a local, is that they charge exhorbitant prices in season yet most hotels have failed to do any kind of upkeep in over 20 years. I used to frequent Montauk all the time when I was in college. Our favorite spot was the Royal Atlantic. It has the best beach access and is near everything. Twenty some odd years later, the Royal Atlantic continues to charge an arm and a leg but has done little if any renovations.

While Montauk hotels are very happy to charge you $300/nt in high season (and impose a 4 night minimum stay), most hotels are really crappy.

Just to let you know, the rip currents in Montauk are a killer, literally, so please beware if you do go in the water. A former lifeguard drowned in front of me and my kids several years ago.

As far as the wineries, if you go to the North Fork, we love Palmer Wines. Another favorite is Laurel Lake Vineyards. Though Pindar wines may have the widest name recognition of all LI wines, we personally think they are pretty poor. Macari has a beautiful tasting room but I am not a fan of their wines (though many local liquor stores recommend them).

Keep in mind that, while the LI climate and soil is conducive to growing grapes, the wines here are good, rarely great. Whites are better than reds on the whole. Bottles are expensive compared to most everyday drinking wines. Some wineries have one or two award winners so you might want to ask what their best wine is.

You can do many tastings in one afternoon. Don't pass up the great farm stands. Briermere Farms on Sound Avenue is renowned for their pies. I personally love the Raspberry Cream Pie.

Also, if you are looking to shop, Tanger Outlets in Riverhead has some decent stores. One of my favorites is the Tumi outlet.

Enjoy!!

www.montaukmanor.com
www.palmervineyards.com
www.llwines.com
www.briermere.com
www/tangeroutlet.com/riverhead

I have a house in Southampton, so have not stayed in any B&Bs, inns or hotels out there, but here are a couple of North Fork suggestions:
I think Shinn Estate Vineyards in Mattituck recently opened a small B&B, and their wines are quite good, so that might be a good choice.
IMO, the single best restaurant on the East End nowadays is North Fork Table and Inn in Southold and, as the name implies, they have an inn, which you might want to look at as well.

Zoning of this nature is an invitation to litigation. That's the same thing they tried with the Southampton Jewish Center.


I thought that suit hadn't been resolved yet. In any case - the various Hamptons have been very successful in stopping 'unwelcome' development (be it hotels, high speed ferries from NYC, or improved highway access).

Thanks to those who offered your insight on Long Island. Even though everyone says it is shoulder season now, many hotels in Montauk are full that weekend!!! Those with rooms are still charging $160-200 a nite. :td: Same for many BnB and hotels in the North Fork which is even pricier $195-245. I am really surprised. I was not able to string two consecutive nites together in one hotel in Montauk so decided to go somewhere else in upstate New York where I get more value for my money. I will go to North Fork next time.

I thought that suit hadn't been resolved yet. In any case - the various Hamptons have been very successful in stopping 'unwelcome' development (be it hotels, high speed ferries from NYC, or improved highway access).

Litigation takes time. Considering that federal law has pre-empted local zoning when it comes to houses of worship, the outcome of this case is pretty certain to follow all the similar such cases that have been brought around the country. The Southampton lawyers will say they put up a fight, but they will lose.

By the way, the Synagogue has been there for about seven years.

As to the rest of your comments, let's see what the future brings. Not everyone is happy with the way things have been, there are new voices to be heard and someone is going to have to figure out a way to settle with the Shinnecock Indians over the case they brought.

Again, I don't live there and rarely visit.

Thanks to those who offered your insight on Long Island. Even though everyone says it is shoulder season now, many hotels in Montauk are full that weekend!!! Those with rooms are still charging $160-200 a nite. :td: Same for many BnB and hotels in the North Fork which is even pricier $195-245. I am really surprised. I was not able to string two consecutive nites together in one hotel in Montauk so decided to go somewhere else in upstate New York where I get more value for my money. I will go to North Fork next time.

I'll be interested in hearing where you went and how the riding was.