View Full Version : Trip Report: VX SFO-JFK F Red-eye


DrivingRain
Aug 15, 07, 8:34 am
Check-in:
We got to the airport early. No line. The agent suggested we skip the kiosk and check-in with her manually. As I walked past the kiosk I noticed that they look like PCs, not the usual Kinetics or IBM brand kiosk. We checked two bags. The process took longer than it should have, but it was only 10 minutes in total. No priority tags for F.

Lounge (or lack thereof):
I have an Amex Centurion, VS Gold Card, Priority Pass Card and still had no lounge to go to. The VS Clubhouse was closed, so I couldnt try to talk my way in there as VX F and VS Gold. The NW Worldclub was closed too (entry via Priority Pass). Most of the other lounges were closed, granted no access with my credentials or both. So no luck.

Boarding:
My bp said 8:25 boarding. The process actually started at 8:45. The gate agents introduce themselves and raise their arms to say hi to the "guests". Nice, but a bit too tacky for me. First was called along with extra-timers". I boarded right then so I dont know how they boarded the rest of the aircraft. I assume by row number.

Dark purple lighting sets the scene onboard. I like it. Three FAs in total. One was apparently assigned to F throughout the flight. After 10 minutes being seated a drink offer was extended. There was no printed menu handed out or in the seat back to know what was available. I asked for a vodka and tonic. I dont know what vodka it was or what tonic it was. It was nice, stiff drink though. Overhead space is tight upfront. Very tight. If everybody in F has roller-boards then at least 2 people wil be putting their bag up in Y territory.

The pilot steps out of the cockpit for the flight briefing. That's a nice touch.

Seat:
The Virgin site can give you the hard details. The subtle points worth mentioning are:
-It seems as if there was more room for the seat to slide forward for a more complete recline. Unfortunately, it means there is some dead space in the fully relaxed position.
-Nice, soft leather or feaux-leather (I couldnt tell which it was).
-It would be nice if the feet could be raised higher for a more flat seat.
-At full recline, you're in a cradle. It's a fairly straight cradle, but it's a cradle.
-Seat width was good enough for me to sleep on my side
-The pillow and blanket were very cheaply made. It didnt fit the rest of the product
-No amenity kit or amenities
-All this being said, it's a great seat. Somewhere between UA PS F and J IMO.

Food:
After a lengthy delay, a plasticy placemat, plastic dinner ware, plastic salt and pepper and fancy paper napking were presented. Then came three choices of appetizers presented on a tray. I took all three. Drink orders were then taken (a little late). Again, no drink menu. No food menu. I asked what reds he had. He said he had a Pinot Noir and Merlot. I didnt ask to see the bottle to know what I was drinking and I didnt ask what the mains were to make the right choice. So I went safe(r) and selected the pinot.

The starters were all presented in clear plastic ramekin-like holders about 2 inches in diameter. The first of the apps was a single boiled shrimp with half of it dipped in a pool of cocktail sauce with a lemon wedge. I ate it first b/c I still didnt have my wine b/c cocktail sauce is usually a tough match for wine. The wine arrived. It was good (no idea what it was). Next a melon ball wrapped with proscuitto. Although the parma ham was sliced too thick....it was at least not too cold. Overall...excellent again. Third up was two mozzarella balls in a balsamic bath with cherry tomato halves. Another winner. Unfortunately, no bread was offered.

After clearing the apps, two mains were offered. Thai chicken or shrimp over rice. Given the solid quality of the shrimp cocktail, I chose the shrimp. It came out on a plain rectangular white plate. The presentation was not as good as the apps, but better than most domestic transcon F. Bread was now offerred. Three choices. It was slightly warmed. The food quality again was good with the exception of the accompanying green beans which were overcooked. A refill of wine and water arrived after a few bites in.

The same setup as the apps was presented for the deserts. I chose all three again and coffee. Coffee comes in a white 14+ ounce glass cup. Sugar and cream are offered when the coffee is served (no individual coffee service with saucer, sugar holder and creamer...but that's OK with me).

The first desert I ate was jello with suspended raspberries. It was as good as jello can be. Next was the chocolate mousse with orange rinds. Not incredible, but great for airline food. Finally a mini cream puff with chocolate sauce. Great.

The food gets high grades from me. It crushed the Singapore Airlines Business class food I had the night before from HKG to SFO.

They need some sort of drink menu though. In coach, the IFE displays the food. In F, that menu is not shown. Instead you get text that says something to the effect of, "You'll be served great food and drink in F. Sit back and enjoy". Not enough. The only way UA PS F beats this is their great printed menus. In every other way VX kicks their butt in the food category.

DrivingRain
Aug 15, 07, 8:35 am
IFE:
In F the screen is tucked into the arm of the seat so I don’t think you can really access it during taxi/take-off, but I’m not sure if the FAs would make you stow it. It’s a combined touch-screen and wired-remote system like Song was.

Everything seemed to be free for F. Movies, live-TV, on-demand TV, etc. I watched a TV show and then watched some live TV. ½ the channels did not work. After surfing for a while my system crashed. It re-booted itself. After 10 minutes it came back up. It worked for another 10 minutes and crashed again. This time it didn’t re-boot itself. I asked the FA to re-boot for me. He asked his colleague who didn’t get around to re-booting until 30 minutes later. 10 minutes after that, it was up and running again. By then desert was over and I was ready for sleep. I filled my jukebox with audio selections and hit the hay. The IFE worked the rest of the way.

A few notes about the IFE:
-Music selection is great. Better than TG or SQ. Maybe even better than VS.
-Movies were OK. Seemed to be a month behind the other airlines we flew on this long trip
-The map had no special features
-The mouse/controls were very slow to react to the point where you would double-click b/c you weren’t sure if the first click went through. When the first click finally works, the second click ends up taking you to an unintended destination. Bottom line; you need patience as you dig into the IFE
-Again…since I was in F I didn’t have access to the IFE food ordering system
-There is a button for the web, but it is not yet active. It probably wont be for a while
-The QWERTY keyboard had no use for me

Overall…it was too buggy, but the IFE has great potential.

Other:
-Baggage took a long time to come off. They could use some priority tags.

Overall:
I was very pleased with the flight (it arrived early btw). Besides the obvious growth of destinations/flights, for VX to become my regular choice it needs the following; Clubhouse access, a link-up with VS or somebody else with a real network for mileage redemption and a link up with Amex. Everything else seems to be in place for me to do a big switch over to this airline. Jetblue never tempted me. This airline does. It is going after the big airline customers. If it fulfills my 3 requirements, then they’ll have my business. If it’s this good this early, then I’m pretty confident I’ll be happy flying with VX for the long-term.

DrivingRain
Aug 15, 07, 9:37 am
And here are some pictures to go with the review (mostly of the food):
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0BaN3Lho1YsXfA

Enjoy,
DR

RichardInSF
Aug 15, 07, 5:13 pm
Seems a bit tacky to use plastic cutlery in F, although if the food itself is better as a result, I guess it's OK.

Is this same food for sale in Y or is what is available in Y completely different?

cyber1k
Aug 16, 07, 6:55 pm
DrivingRainFlyingFirst,

Thank you for the trip report on VX F. I looked at the photos and notice in the second one called somethign like "looking fwd" that there did not appear to be a hard bulkhead between row 1 on the right side of F cabin separating the galley. True?

I typically enjoy bulkhead to avoid seats reclining back onto me and window pax needing to crawl over me to get out during flight. That said, would you recommend row 1 or 2 aisle seat for a future transcon on VX? Can you offer distinctions?

Thanks very much.

Cyber1K

DrivingRain
Aug 16, 07, 7:00 pm
Seems a bit tacky to use plastic cutlery in F, although if the food itself is better as a result, I guess it's OK.

Is this same food for sale in Y or is what is available in Y completely different?

I dont know. But I wish I could know. I was in the mood for a nice, hot sandwich. If that was an option in the back I would have liked to have that option up front.

DrivingRain
Aug 16, 07, 7:06 pm
I looked at the photos and notice in the second one called somethign like "looking fwd" that there did not appear to be a hard bulkhead between row 1 on the right side of F cabin separating the galley. True?

That said, would you recommend row 1 or 2 aisle seat for a future transcon on VX? Can you offer distinctions?


It is a thick, hard, translucent plastic that serves as the bulkhead. So you can see through....but I think it serves the purpose that you want it to.

Regarding seat choice;
-I sat in the aisle in Row 2. F was full.

-Seat backs recline backward, so advantage row 1

-There is hardly any room for under-seat storage, so again advantage row 1

-They take food orders Row 1 first, then row 2...again, advantage row 1. Then again, I got everything I asked for food-wise in row 2.

-The overhead space is non-existent above row 1, so slight advantage to Row 2...but what really matters is who gets down the jetway first.

-FYI...the person in front of me did not recline so I had the best of both worlds; no "recline guilt" if I were in row 1 and no one reclinig on me.

SFO-SJC Flyer
Aug 18, 07, 8:02 pm
Thank you for the excellent report. Mrs. and I are looking forward to our first VX trip on September 23. We are flying First Class roundtrip SFO-JFK. It will be interesting to compare Virgin America First Class to American, Delta, Continental, and Northwest. I have flown First Class on those airlines, and we have been very loyal to SkyTeam and oneworld. However, we may become just as loyal to Virgin America. Sometimes flying can improve. Virgin America may be that improvement. :)


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