have you ever tried booking ONE hotel room, for several people...say...7-9 people? in a one bed, have you got caught? my friend she just wants to book ONE room, its fine if she sleeps on the floor, the hotel charges by amount of nights not by amount of people, if you get caught, how much do you have to pay for an additional or extra person??? :confused:
GoingAway
Jul 30, 07, 9:12 pm
really depends on the type of hotel, location and how much noise you all make. There are maximum # of people per room based on fire code, if you exceed that, it's not about paying but meeting code, IOW you'll be booted. If you're within code, usually 4 or 5 people in the room when there are two beds, then you might have to pay an extra person fee.
horse glasses
Jul 30, 07, 10:00 pm
How would you get caught unless you were extremely obvious about it? Though I don't know why anyone would do this, couldn't 3-4 people split the cost of a cheap room and be able to sleep in a bed?
randomkid104
Jul 30, 07, 10:06 pm
How would you get caught unless you were extremely obvious about it? Though I don't know why anyone would do this, couldn't 3-4 people split the cost of a cheap room and be able to sleep in a bed?
just so you know, sir, or mam whatever, we're not the richest people in the world, and college graduates or so, finding a job and so, dont expect too much. we have around 7 people, and plus, there's around 13 hotels, and all of them are booked, not enough rooms are available for two, so we get one hotel room, it'll be fine for 7 people, we're not asking for much. just a room to sleep in with our own freaking bathroom. a lot of people have done this, just so you know, maybe not you, but that's none of my business to know.
caleo
Jul 30, 07, 10:39 pm
I did the six-person-per-room thing in college too.
Bottom line is that it depends on the city and the size of the hotel. If you're going somewhere like the mgm grand in Las Vegas, they'll probably never know. If you're going to a 30-room hotel in Dublin, they probably will.
Biggest tip is to be quiet. I don't mean that you guys should whisper, but be aware that 7 people talking over each other with the television and/or radio on will probably result in one of your neighbors calling security. If that happens, you're looking at a minimum of an extra fee for each person (anywhere from $15 to 50 per night depending on the hotel) and/or being kicked out if you exceed the fire code.
Oh, also try to pick up the room a bit before housekeeping comes. Don't have 7 toothbrushes in the bathroom or 7 distinct piles of clothes on the floor (use the dresser and closet). And try not to all walk in together. Just basic stuff to avoid the staff's attention and make it less obvious how many people are staying in the room.
Good luck and look forward to the day when you can travel in a smaller group.
schmare
Jul 30, 07, 10:55 pm
Bottom line is that it depends on the city and the size of the hotel. If you're going somewhere like the mgm grand in Las Vegas, they'll probably never know. If you're going to a 30-room hotel in Dublin, they probably will.
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This is excellent advice. It really depends on the size of the hotel, how inconspicuous your group can be entering/exiting the room, and how much noise you make.
Also keep in mind that in many smaller hotels (and even some large chain hotels outside of the US), rooms can be extremely small. A single room literally may not have enough room for 7-9 people to sleep on the floor.
WillTravel
Jul 30, 07, 11:05 pm
If you name the city and price range, maybe people can help you out with other options. I'd prefer to stay in a hostel rather than sleeping 7 to a small room, on the floor at that.
randomkid104
Jul 30, 07, 11:28 pm
[QUOTE=schmare;8147483]This is excellent advice. It really depends on the size of the hotel, how inconspicuous your group can be entering/exiting the room, and how much noise you make.
How about new york city? will they actually check how much people is in the room? and the whats the usual fire code?
caleo
Jul 30, 07, 11:45 pm
NYC hotels are notoriously small and, to be honest, most won't have the floor space for nine people. You'll probably have better luck with space - and with avoiding hotel staff - at one of the chains (but avoid the Grand Central Hyatt as their room sizes are a crap shoot).
Which hotels are you looking at? Any chance you guys can afford a suite somewhere? Or a normal room at the Doubletree Suites or Embassy Suites?
You might also want to head over to the Travel Bidding (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=204) forum for advice on whether Priceline for two rooms would actually be better for you.
About 7 years ago, my friends and I used priceline for a room at the Renaissance in Times Square over St. Patrick's Day. Fairly large by NYC standards. Plenty of room for four, you'd literally be tripping over people if you squeezed seven, but I don't think nine would fit.
caleo
Jul 30, 07, 11:48 pm
Forgot to add - fire code depends on room size. Some may have one double bed with one foot of space between the bed and the wall. That room will have a fire code size of two.
However, if you can find a room with two double beds (you'll rarely find one that has two queens), the fire code might be four.
And the larger the hotel, the less of a chance they'll check. Just keep your heads down and don't get too loud or crazy.
PS. the words "sitting area" or "work area" are your friend because they mean floor space.
WillTravel
Jul 30, 07, 11:58 pm
Undoubtedly you could book a 7-person private room with ensuite bathroom at a hostel, for whatever price you are looking at to get a room big enough to fit 7 (in whatever configuration) in NYC.
Actually you would probably have to book an 8-person dorm, because there would be 4 bunk beds, but I'm sure you could make use of that extra space.
randomkid104
Jul 31, 07, 12:33 am
so what size does the room have to be to fit 7 people but not violate the fire code??
tom911
Jul 31, 07, 1:19 am
For some reason this thread reminds me of this one from back in 2002 (I have a pretty good memory):
Problems at Hilton Concord (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128263), in which the poster rented a room for some friends and the police were called. I'd certainly keep a low profile to avoid that.
WillTravel
Jul 31, 07, 1:41 am
I think there are extremely few hotels that have 7-person rooms. But you could pretty well tell by the number of sleeping spaces you can have in the room. E.g. - if you have a double, and you're allowed a rollaway cot, there's probably a fire code limit of 3. If you have two doubles, a fold-out double sofa bed, and a rollaway, that would probably be a room (most likely a suite) that would have a fire code limit of 7.
duchy
Jul 31, 07, 2:38 am
If it's for NYC I'd suggest two choices-book a couple of rooms out at Newark and hop the train in. On Priceline this will cost you around $55 plus tax and fee per room or if you MUST be in the city try the New Yorker their Double/Double rooms (two double beds) run around $200 and will have the floor space http://www.newyorkerhotel.com/ however you WILL be exceeding the firecode and taking the risks attached. Also bear in mind that many NY hotels do check for keycards late at night to ensure you are supposed to be there which may cause you problems.
Hotwire offer quad occupancy guaranteed on certain hotels which would ensure two double or queen beds in the room but booking just one room obviously carries the same issues with over occupancy as mentioned above.
randomkid104
Jul 31, 07, 1:15 pm
its 7 people, we're thinking of a suite, but then it'll be truely expensive, in new york, at least 10 miles of chinatown. please send me some hotels or suites, and i'll check the reviews and features, we just need one bed, and some space, or two beds, but still the suite/room should be big enough for 7 people, and try not to exceed the fire code? i really want the trip to be the best for all of us, and i dont want a hotel room size to get in our way. please.
GoingAway
Jul 31, 07, 1:17 pm
what is the budget per person/per night you were all hoping for? and when are you travelling - in NYC, there can be huge price swings
randomkid104
Jul 31, 07, 2:07 pm
ummm well at the most 70$$ per person, but a little more we dont mind. we just need a bed, and space. at an affordable price, in new york, planning to travel on saturday early in the morning, and leave on sunday night.
GoingAway
Jul 31, 07, 2:14 pm
ummm well at the most 70$$ per person, but a little more we dont mind. we just need a bed, and space. at an affordable price, in new york, planning to travel on saturday early in the morning, and leave on sunday night.
$70pp is 280 (well really just over 200 b/c taxes eat up so much) for a 2 bed room for 4 people for one night. When are you hoping to travel? You are likely to find something in this range that would be acceptable to you and your friends.
randomkid104
Jul 31, 07, 3:01 pm
$70pp is 280 (well really just over 200 b/c taxes eat up so much) for a 2 bed room for 4 people for one night. When are you hoping to travel? You are likely to find something in this range that would be acceptable to you and your friends.
7 people are going, and we're trying to find good reviews, with bigger space. most hotels say they have big space, then the hotel reviews say the room is a lot smaller than expected. thinking of a suite, but idk..
GoingAway
Jul 31, 07, 4:41 pm
What's the date already ????
randomkid104
Jul 31, 07, 4:49 pm
its not too late you know, whatever, we already booked two rooms. =):cool::p