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Gargoyle
May 27, 07, 3:02 pm
I needs to convert some digital images into 35mm slides. It's been 10 years since I've had that done (I used a local service bureau that time). Any suggestions on where to go? I assume there are good on-line service bureaus where I can upload the images.

Also, anything special I should do to prep the images- should it be RGB, CMYK, or what?

Thanks,

Gargoyle
Jun 8, 07, 10:49 am
I went with http://www.ezslides.com
Quality is very good, service was fast. Problem solved.

jason8612
Jun 14, 07, 7:13 pm
I know basically any scanner can do it with the right software. Color wise CMYK is the same color format that would be printed. But these differences are hard to notice, unless you are really specific on colors.

Bobster
Jun 15, 07, 5:34 pm
I'd use a film camera and take pictures of the computer screen. It costs about one-tenth the price of getting it done on-line. Ezslides would charge minimum $108, plus handling charge, for the equivalent of one 36-exposure roll of film. Yikes!

Gargoyle
Jun 15, 07, 10:37 pm
I know basically any scanner can do it with the right software.My question was about digital to slide, not vice versa

I'd use a film camera and take pictures of the computer screen. Been there, done that. Adequate for many purposes, but the quality isn't the same. You have to deal with the scan rate of the computer monitor (which creates shadows in the photo), and the image quality breaks down when the slides are projected on a large screen (10 or 15 feet wide)

If you do take pictures from the screen, a couple tips- hang a tarp over the screen and camera to block out all external light. Use a tape measure, measure from the center of the lens to all four corners of the screen.

birdstrike
Jun 15, 07, 10:49 pm
You have to deal with the scan rate of the computer monitor (which creates shadows in the photo), and the image quality breaks down when the slides are projected on a large screen (10 or 15 feet wide)

Whoa. You are taking a digital image, reducing it's quality to put it on a 35mm slide, then mechanically projecting the physical 35mm transparency onto a screen?

What's wrong with DLP? Just take the digital image and project it. . .

anrkitec
Jun 16, 07, 12:36 am
Go to your local camera store and have a high-quality 4x6 or 6x8 print made from your digital file. The store will then be able to use a copy stand to make you a slide[s] from that print. There will be some quality loss but this method will render the best results, will be inexpensive, and can be done quickly.

Oh, by the way, no DLP exists that can render better quality projection than can 645 Velvia slides projected thru my Hassey 2-1/4 projector - at least not for under $20-30,000. ;)

Gargoyle
Jun 16, 07, 8:28 am
What's wrong with DLP? Just take the digital image and project it. . .Because I have 15+ years of 35mm slides which I use in slide lectures. Eventually I want to digitize them, and do the lectures digitally, but not until I have a spare 20 minutes with which to scan thousands of slides. I have a few images in digital format which I wanted to use to update the lecture; easier to convert 10 digital images to slide than to covert thousands of slides to digital

Go to your local camera store and have a high-quality 4x6 or 6x8 print made from your digital file. The store will then be able to use a copy stand to make you a slide[s] from that print. I've done that myself a few times, with reasonable results, but more time-intensive than submitting digital images online.

birdstrike
Jun 16, 07, 8:32 am
Because I have 15+ years of 35mm slides which I use in slide lectures. Eventually I want to digitize them, and do the lectures digitally, but not until I have a spare 20 minutes with which to scan thousands of slides. I have a few images in digital format which I wanted to use to update the lecture; easier to convert 10 digital images to slide than to covert thousands of slides to digital.

Ah. That makes sense. I have 8 boxes of old vacation prints/slides that I dread digitizing.

jason8612
Jun 16, 07, 9:09 am
Because I have 15+ years of 35mm slides which I use in slide lectures. Eventually I want to digitize them, and do the lectures digitally, but not until I have a spare 20 minutes with which to scan thousands of slides. I have a few images in digital format which I wanted to use to update the lecture; easier to convert 10 digital images to slide than to covert thousands of slides to digital

I've done that myself a few times, with reasonable results, but more time-intensive than submitting digital images online.

Ah. I see now. Interesting.

Gargoyle
Jun 16, 07, 10:40 am
Ah. That makes sense. I have 8 boxes of old vacation prints/slides that I dread digitizing.I just checked my photo database (all my film and slides are listed, not in detail, but at least to know where to look for images of specific subjects, projects, and locations).

It shows 447 rolls of slides. 67 are 36 exp, 122 are 20 exp, 249 are listed as 24 exp. (it's been a few years, I didn't recall that it was sold as both 20 and 24? could I have made data entry mistakes?). Nine rolls don't have the number of exposures listed. (I mostly shot short rolls to get them out of the camera and processed quicker, so I could see what I'd gotten and what needed to be reshot)

Anyway, that adds up to over 10k images, with the majority related to sculpture and stonework.

I think I need an intern to come spend the summer scanning them!

JGR01
Jun 16, 07, 10:52 am
I think I need an intern to come spend the summer scanning them!

ebay has 'professional services' available where yuo bid on the services of various people to do things....under http://services.ebay.com/ .. this might be a good solution.

btw .. I would never knowingly hire someone who was planning on doing a slide presentation ... so old school! i expect creative speakers to use current technology creative tools! ;)

humanoid94
Jun 16, 07, 9:58 pm
My uncle digitized all of our grandfather's old slides and detailed his methodology here:

http://www.pbase.com/lowthian/digitizing_old_slides

cj001f
Jun 16, 07, 10:14 pm
Does the auditorium/environment where you are presenting have both type of projectors?


btw .. I would never knowingly hire someone who was planning on doing a slide presentation ... so old school! i expect creative speakers to use current technology creative tools! ;)

I'd never knowingly hire a company with arbitrary and irrational technological biases. Tis a poor artist with only one brush.

Gargoyle
Jun 16, 07, 10:21 pm
My uncle digitized all of our grandfather's old slides and detailed his methodology here:

http://www.pbase.com/lowthian/digitizing_old_slides

Very interesting idea. I'd like to see a more solid slide holder, so the film is kept perfectly flat, but it might not make a difference.

I just spoke with a local camera shop, they're getting a new high speed scanner which, in principal, isn't too different. It uses a carousel projector reel, (insert slides backwards from how they would normally face) slides drop into the unit and an 8 megapixel camera shoots them. They'll charge 35 cents per slide. I wonder if an old carousel projector could be modified to use your uncles method?

Does the auditorium/environment where you are presenting have both type of projectors?
Yes. They were originally designed for slides, with the controls in the podium, and they have added full AV capabilities. I'm sure they do much more slide presentations than digital presentations. It's an art museum, with a massive slide library- 50+ years of slides.

lalala
Jun 16, 07, 11:52 pm
Because I have 15+ years of 35mm slides which I use in slide lectures. Eventually I want to digitize them, and do the lectures digitally, but not until I have a spare 20 minutes with which to scan thousands of slides. I have a few images in digital format which I wanted to use to update the lecture; easier to convert 10 digital images to slide than to covert thousands of slides to digital

I've done that myself a few times, with reasonable results, but more time-intensive than submitting digital images online.

This is why they invented graduate students. ;)

lala

we're thinking of buying a slide scanner for the same reason. We have at least 1500 slides to scan at home and another 5000 of TH's father's slides that should be archived.

anrkitec
Jun 17, 07, 2:43 am
This is why they invented graduate students. ;)

lala

we're thinking of buying a slide scanner for the same reason. We have at least 1500 slides to scan at home and another 5000 of TH's father's slides that should be archived.

If true archiving and preservation is your goal - as opposed to digital conversion for ease of projection, distribution, etc., be aware that negatives and chromes stored in archival quality, non-out gassing holders in a cool and dry environment will far outlast any currently existing digital storage method.

Cheaper CD-Rs/CD-RWs/DVD-Rs, etc. are already showing significant data corruption in as little as five to ten years and the very best of current magnetic storage isn't considered to be safe for more than 25 or so years.

Properly stored negatives and chromes can, if stored properly, remain significantly intact for more than 100-years.

By all means, transfer your slides to digital for convenience, but don't throw your negatives and slides away thinking that you have them stored permanently on digital.

Gargoyle
Jun 17, 07, 5:37 am
btw .. I would never knowingly hire someone who was planning on doing a slide presentation ... so old school! i expect creative speakers to use current technology creative tools! ;)

Cheaper CD-Rs/CD-RWs/DVD-Rs, etc. are already showing significant data corruption in as little as five to ten years and the very best of current magnetic storage isn't considered to be safe for more than 25 or so years.

Properly stored negatives and chromes can, if stored properly, remain significantly intact for more than 100-years.Slides may be "old school", but like many old school things, they work well and are extremely versatile. The "latest and greatest" is fleeting, and hasn't necessarily stood the test of time. Some of us still remember 8-track; a great technology, but...
I have computer backups on 5-1/4 floppies, 3-01/2 diskettes, colorado 120 tapes, etc...

Not everything new is better in every situation.