I am helping a friend to plan a round the world trip with her dog.

Is this an impossibility?

It seems like UK and Europe is possible...is this true?

What about ASIA, Australia, and NZ?

Has anyone done this before?

I am helping a friend to plan a round the world trip with her dog.

Is this an impossibility?

It seems like UK and Europe is possible...is this true?

What about ASIA, Australia, and NZ?

Has anyone done this before?

I can't imagine wanting to take a dog with me around the world. Who will you leave it with when you go into restaurants, clubs, museums, etc. I wouldn't leave it tied outside and I wouldn't know anyone locally and I'd end up spending a fortune in kennel fees. I'd leave the dog with a friend.

What would a dog get out of a round the world trip anyway?

What would a dog get out of a round the world trip anyway?

International dog food?

I can't imagine wanting to take a dog with me around the world. Who will you leave it with when you go into restaurants, clubs, museums, etc. I wouldn't leave it tied outside and I wouldn't know anyone locally and I'd end up spending a fortune in kennel fees. I'd leave the dog with a friend.

What would a dog get out of a round the world trip anyway?

rephrase...
She is moving to Europe for 4 months and is thinking about buying a RTW ticket in order to be able to visit Asia, etc. on the way there or back.

I sure hope that the dog is small enough to be in the cabin.

This must be a joke. How can I take it seriously? Get a dog-sitter and have a great trip.

There are definitely restrictions in England. They no longer require the six-month quarantine but it takes about six months and a lot of coordination on the U.S. end with vets, airlines, etc., to avoid the quarantine.

This must be a joke. How can I take it seriously? Get a dog-sitter and have a great trip.

There are people in this world that treat their dogs better than their kids. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was not a joke.

This is not a joke.

I had seen a website earlier that stated the UK required a Pet passport, rabies vaccine 6 months earlier, travel in the cargo hold, and an RF transmitter to be installed in the pet. It 'seemed' that then you could freely travel within Europe.

This friend has volunteered to be a tutor for our children. One of the conditions she has stipulated is to be able to bring her dog.

I had started another thread about suggestions on where to go last week:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=683877

I am just starting to get worried that a RTW might be out of the question with a pet.

There's got to be someone as crazy as us :) that has traveled with their pet???

Sign the dog up for whatever FF program you're traveling on, and wait for the credit card offers to come in addressed to "Scruffy Jones."

DH and I looked into doing RTW with our dog as well, but it is nearly impossible to do it. First of all, we would need to kennel him since he's a labrador, and even if the dog is small enough to be in the cabin, air travel is very stressful to an animal. Flying to UK with a dog has gotten a little easier, but the restrictions on where the animal traveled to before and other factors will make your head spin. We're now paying our friend to take care of our dog when we do our RTW.

One of the big problems with RTW is that long leg between Europe and Asia. This dog could be looking at 15 hours in a cargo hold. I would be surprised if that is even allowed. If the dog was a teeny one and could be in the cabin that is another story. As the dog is too big for a cabin I think RTW is out of the question.

It seems like UK and Europe is possible...is this true?
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/pets/territory.htm
If the dog comes from any of the listed countries, it would be eligible for a EU pet passport. That should allow the dog to move freely in most of the countries in the EU.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/pets/procedures/support-info/documents.htm#
However, it takes at least 6 months to 'prepare' (microchip, vaccinations, blood tests, documentation) the dog before it is allowed to travel.

What about ASIA, Australia, and NZ?
http://www.pettravel.com/passportnew.cfm
The pet passport works in the EU only. Pets coming from countries such as Japan and Singapore can enter the EU with a pet passport but the scheme does not seem to be reciprocal.

For example, dogs can only enter Japan if they have been in residence for at least 180 days in countries such as the UK, Australia, Sweden, NZ. In Singapore, pets not from Australia, New Zealand, UK and Ireland must be quarantined. There is no statement on the minimum days of residence. Would that imply that a dog originating from the US which has entered and stayed in the UK for about a week be allowed into Singapore? (Would need to check that with the authorities)

During a Flyertalk meet in Toulouse this weekend, I overheard that small dogs are allowed in the cabin (under the seat) on AirFrance flights. You might be able to confirm that on the AirFrance forum or with the airlines yourself.

Some countries such as France or Spain are really dog friendly. I always see dogs in the French airports. I have also seen them in two or three-star Michelin restaurants in France. If the dog is well behaved and sits quietly under the table, there should not be a problem in getting it into a posh restaurant or hotel.

IMO, it would be relatively easy to get the dog into the EU but a RTW to Asia would be too stressful and too much hassle.

What size dog? What is the age? Is the dog calm or nervous?

Where is she planning to stay? How will she be traveling within a country?

When will the dog be left alone?

I'd hate to run into difficulties if there is a change in rules.

I too encourage you and your friend to rethink this.
As someone mentioned, the quarantine/entry requirements for animals vary from country to country and they are not at all consistent. That will be the least of your troubles as airline travel is very stressful to pets.

If you want to go via Australia, then check out http://www.daffa.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs. Note that dogs from many countries must go into quarantine (at your cost) in Australia. Currently, the web site indicates that you need to apply for entry at least 5 months in advance due to space restrictions at quarantine.

When living in Switzerland, my dog used to accompany me on trips to France, Italy and other places with the EU with no problems what so ever. Even taking the Pendolino to Milan with a small dog on a leash was no problem what so ever. I would say that Italy and CH are the most dog friendly in terms of travelling - even when it comes to hotels. The only problems i had was in Germany and Austria.

Also living in Switzerland, and traveling throughout continental Europe has been very easy with our Labrador. With a car or on a train...no problem. Hotels are dog friendly, as are many restaurants (especially if we sit outside).

The problematic part, is traveling with a RTW ticket. Since you are paying for this ticket, you get more value if you use it. But flying with the dog is inconvenient for you and stressful for the dog. In addition to the pet passport, you need to travel with a large dog crate. This will be difficult if you then drive around if you have no place to store it in between flights. That being said, I reiterate that most of Europe is quite dog friendly for us.

I have no experience traveling with a dog in Asia, but having traveled extensively throughout China and Japan, I do not remember ever seeing pets in hotels or restaurants. And rarely on the streets as in the West. I would say this part would be very difficult.

I would probably try to find a friend to take care of our dog if we were going away for that long. We would miss our dog terribly, but I would not want to fly too often with her. What I might do in your position is skip Asia, and stay longer in Europe. It will still be a great trip.

Good luck!

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When living in Switzerland, my dog used to accompany me on trips to France, Italy and other places with the EU with no problems what so ever. Even taking the Pendolino to Milan with a small dog on a leash was no problem what so ever. I would say that Italy and CH are the most dog friendly in terms of travelling - even when it comes to hotels. The only problems i had was in Germany and Austria.

Oh dear.. please tell me it isn't one of those horrible rat-like things that yap constantly. I think it might end up in an overhead bin on a long flight.. or worse...

Be aware, that in the UK we still have quarentine for 6 months for pets imported without the correct (pet passport) documentation and innoculations.

If you want to go via Australia, then check out http://www.daffa.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs. Note that dogs from many countries must go into quarantine (at your cost) in Australia. Currently, the web site indicates that you need to apply for entry at least 5 months in advance due to space restrictions at quarantine.

Not only do dogs need to go into quarantine when entering Australia, I know QF (and possibly other airlines into Aust) do not allow dogs in the cabin.

To be blunt, I think this is a selfish idea. Travel is incredibly stressful on animals. Why would your friend want to inflict that unnecessary stress on a beloved pet? If she's moving to Europe for 4 months and absolutely can't bear to be apart for so long, that's one thing...but please discourage her from taking her dog with her as she meanders through Asia on her way home. There are great services which will expedite the international shipping of an animal. More than 20 years ago, my family used Canine Carriers http://www.caninecarriers.com/ to ship our dog to and from Saudi Arabia, and it appears the company is still a great choice for people who are relocating to other countries.

China welcomes all dogs. It might wind up as the main course on your dinner menu!

A lifetime dog owner, I think your friend needs to have a long talk with the animal cruelty folks, before seeking some serious counseling for herself. If the SPCA types don't disabuse her, perhaps therapy can.

I can only assume she's proposing to haul along Old Spot so that she will feel comfortable continuity in her personal experience, but Old Spot is unlikely to have the same expectations, either asa matter of schedule, climate, comnfort, food, and above all "consistency", the key to pleasant existence for most pets.

....and then there's the potential that Old Spot might escape in Seoul ("What's a nice dog like you doing in a plce like this?").

Ok, we have convinced her 'just' to go to Europe.

Do you have a suggestion on someone she can call to get the official entry requirements?

Some web-sites list quarantine, some do not.

Who can give her the straight poop?

Who can give her the straight poop?

Her dog can! :p

Oh jeez, this thread makes me shudder.

As much as I wouldn't want to be away from my dog for long periods of time, I'd never take him out of the country unless I had no other choice.

One day, a couple failed to claim their labrador after flying GRU-LAX. No big deal right? Well they were tagged through to NRT. The carrier couldn't contact the couple before their next flight so the dog was stuck in its cage, in now foul conditions, for the flight to NRT. If they had claimed him, they could have at least walked him before he had to get back on the plane. The only saving grace was that there was a little plastic dish zap strapped to the door so we were able to give him water.