Hypothetically speaking, if you had found and booked a $0 fare that sometimes pop up, is there anywhere in the world (that has actual flights!) would you not go to? Just my curious mind here....

Nope.

1. Iraq
2. Iran in American-flagged airliner
3. Third-world nation airliners flying 20+ year old planes that may be poorly maintained or metal-fatigued
4. Any of Soviet republics that try to declare independence
5. Area with endemic diseases such as viral hemmorhagic fever

Start with the list of places not recommended by the US State department, then whittle away some on a case-by-case basis.

I can only see this going to someone being called a racist just because someone does not want to go somewhere. I can see that happening with some folks here on Flyer Talk.

Given that my MR would be on AA the only place that I would feel uncomfortable that they fly to would be Haiti. However, would do it if it involved returning also immediately (not leaving the airport)

Hypothetically speaking, if you had found and booked a $0 fare that sometimes pop up, is there anywhere in the world (that has actual flights!) would you not go to? Just my curious mind here....

Unless an entrance visa was required (that was too expensive, or that I couldn't get), I can't think of any place that I wouldn't go.

Iraq? Sure, why not. Would I go out and hang out at the market? Probably not.

Guantanamo Bay - I hear it is a one-way deal, and no miles.

Camden, New Jersey

Are we talking a mileage run just to earn miles?

Are we talking about an airport turnaround, ie: a mileage run?

Are we even replying to this post? Yes, but I do not know why although it is probably because the OP just makes no sense for a post in the MR forum and periodically I like to post to get further information if it is available.

To hell and back?

To hell and back?

On the contrary HEL is a fine airport for mileage runs, very short MCTs and easy connections.

Southern California.

<duck>

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My first thought upon reading the OP's post was: SVO!!! I don't want to contribute anything to that government's economy.

Also all those really nasty places where little bugs kill you in 72 hours and little children carry guns.

Also all those really nasty places where little bugs kill you in 72 hours and little children carry guns.
You mean you wouldn't go to Texas?

:D

I would go almost anywhere.

Including most places on the US State department list. They really put way too many countries on that list! I grew up in an West African country that has never had a civil war (unlike most neighbors) and is as safe as Chicago for tourists. But the State department issued one warning after another...as a local (American citizen) resident, we simply learned to blow them off. Doing a turnaround at one of their international airports on a major international airline would be very, very safe.

If the place is unappealing, it would have to be a turnaround. If the place looks like fun, lets see if I can spend some time there. If I have already had my fun there, maybe several back-to-back turnarounds are in order for free miles. :D

"Don't go there because of violence"
Me: Hold on. Where is the violence in relation to the airport? Is there any political reason for taking out the airport? Is the inside of the airport secure?

At this very moment, I would not go to Sri Lanka airport because of recent events. But I will probably go again later this year without hesitation.

What airline to be flown is very important to me for a pure MR. If the $0 fare was on Bellview Airlines, I am not going, even if Bellview flights earned miles of use to me.

As for disease, this seems like a silly reason not to do a turnaround somewhere. So they fly the plane all the way to XYZ...even if you don't fly to XYZ, the airline might be using a plane that flew to XYZ yesterday. Don't fly ever. That solves it.

Camden, New Jersey

You understand that a MR is done primarily for the miles?

IE, you would get on the plane for the miles to go to other places, but not Camden, New Jersey?

:confused: I don't get it? :confused:

You mean you wouldn't go to Texas?

:D

Now that's just mean. And totally unfounded, especially from a Californian.:p

There is no place on this planet I would not go to given the opportunity. By virtue that they have scheduled plane service and let me on the plane, I can assume that a minimal level of security exists at least at the airport of said destination.

There is no place on this planet I would not go to given the opportunity. By virtue that they have scheduled plane service and let me on the plane, I can assume that a minimal level of security exists at least at the airport of said destination.


Couldn't agree more. I'd go anywhere on the planet at least once. Filling in the mental globe... :D :D :D

all those really nasty places where little bugs kill you in 72 hours and little children carry guns.

The first image that came to mind ---> Johnny & Luther (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/FlyingTexan/ETC2/gk_htoo.jpg). Anyone remember them?

Lol, that comment about Texas.

The first image that came to mind ---> Johnny & Luther (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/FlyingTexan/ETC2/gk_htoo.jpg). Anyone remember them?

Lol, that comment about Texas.

no

Okay ... just to stir it up a little, I'll throw this one out there--LAS.

I've been there a couple of times and have gone to casinos and seen shows. Honestly, the place does nothing for me.

It is worthless as an MR, and I'd sooner go to just about anywhere else ...

It is worthless as an MR, and I'd sooner go to just about anywhere else ...

What are you saying? Purpose of MR = ?

What are you saying? Purpose of MR = ?

To me, the purpose of an MR is to:

a) generate redeemable miles (actually mostly segments, for elite qualification--I don't fly enough miles for AA PLT otherwise)

b) go someplace that is worthwhile to visit.

Which is my point. LAS is a cultural wasteland. I'd sooner go to ROW--at least it's interesting (and, yes, I've been there).

Anyway, as I said, I'm just stirring it up a little.

cheers!:)

To me, the purpose of an MR is to:

a) generate redeemable miles (actually mostly segments, for elite qualification--I don't fly enough miles for AA PLT otherwise)

b) go someplace that is worthwhile to visit.

Which is my point. LAS is a cultural wasteland. I'd sooner go to ROW--at least it's interesting (and, yes, I've been there).

Anyway, as I said, I'm just stirring it up a little.

cheers!:)Actually "b)" has little to do with an MR and if a $0 fare showed up tommorrow for DCA-LAS you would probably strain your fingers IMO trying to book it before the inventory disappeared. ;)

hmmm MR, quick turnaround.... and an airport I don't mind flying into

I wouldn't go to... IAH, LAX, ATL, JFK, MIA, LGA, EWR, ORD, SVO, LHR, and CDG :)

b) go someplace that is worthwhile to visit.


Please explain the difference between b and a vacation.


IF you do it for miles, you will take the $0 fare to LAS.

If your purpose isn't miles, why call it a mileage run?

hmmm MR, quick turnaround.... and an airport I don't mind flying into

I wouldn't go to... IAH, LAX, ATL, JFK, MIA, LGA, EWR, ORD, SVO, LHR, and CDG :)

YOU NEED HELP. ;)

MAY I HELP YOU? :p :cool: :p

Please explain the difference between b and a vacation.


IF you do it for miles, you will take the $0 fare to LAS.

If your purpose isn't miles, why call it a mileage run?

A vacation is planned.

Call it wanderlust. Call it curiosity. Call me crazy. I'll pack an overnight bag on zero-notice and jump into my car or onto my motorcycle for a couple hundred miles just to go to a restaurant, or a museum, or whatever might catch my fancy in a magazine/travel show/etc.

So if I can find a cheap fare at low cpm to a place I want to go, it's a "mileage run". More accurately, when I choose to fly, I fly for segments (so I think in terms of cost-per-segment) since I rarely approach enough EQMs/EQPs to qualify otherwise.

Did I do the "Fly 3" promo to ORD on one day turn-arounds? Yup. I have a sister there, I got $78 round-trips early-in and late-out, and three great half-days in Chicago with her. As an added benefit, the 6 segments were relatively cheap and I netted about 40,000 redeemable miles--but I'll repeat, I didn't do it for the miles.

And just to reiterate, I would not go to LAS even if it were free--there are much more interesting and productive things to do with my time. I just don't like the place. Some people do, and that's entirely okay with me.

Does it make a little more sense now?

cheers!

I would go almost anywhere.

Including most places on the US State department list.

^ on this, and everything else you wrote!

Which western African country did you live in?? Just curious, ...

Given that my MR would be on AA the only place that I would feel uncomfortable that they fly to would be Haiti. However, would do it if it involved returning also immediately (not leaving the airport)


You racist :D

I would not go to Greenland.

I'm game for most places, except those where:

1. A visa would be required even for transit purposes (e.g., mainland China); or

2. Being an American sans security arrangements with no kinship/cultural ties to the country carries too much risk, period (e.g., Pakistan).

I would not go to Greenland.

I've been there, and it's not actually that bad. But I can understand the sentiment.

cheers!

I'm game for most places, except those where:

1. A visa would be required even for transit purposes (e.g., mainland China); or

2. Being an American sans security arrangements with no kinship/cultural ties to the country carries too much risk, period (e.g., Pakistan).
This is more in line with what I posted earlier.

I said I'd start with the list of not recommended places from the State Department and whittle it down from there on a case-by-case basis. Certainly I've been to places on the State Department's lists, which is why I said case-by-case basis.

I would, however, have no problem getting a visa. However, if I did get a visa, I'd probably leave the airport, at which point it no longer becomes a pure, unadulterated mileage run. :) But I'm OK with that.

A lot of the Muslim world and a lot of central America.

I passed on those GUA/SAL runs for very good reason.

4. Any of Soviet republics that try to declare independence

There is a Soviet Union and there are Soviet Republics?

Did you just wake up from a coma induced in 1990?

:p

My answer, simply is there are no places I would avoid at all costs.

I've been to 195 actual countries, so "collecting" any others increasingly takes me to places that are on many of the previous posters' "do not fly" lists.

Iraq is very high on my list; balance safety on one hand but one of the world's richest assemblage of ancient civilizations.

Yeah, I would probably prefer many places over most African kleptocracies and/or fundamentalist Islamist states, but I wouldn't pass up a trip that I could use to springboard to a more attractive destination.

Danger? That's a bonus. Some of my most memorable trips have been to places like Bosnia, Libya, Algeria, Somalia, Timor and Afghanistan. Avoiding those would be like avoiding a roller-coaster.

Out-of-the-way destinations? Also a hoot.

All depends on your traveling interests.

The places that I would prefer to avoid, really, are flights to places like Orlando on airlines like Ted or Southworst.

I passed on those GUA/SAL runs for very good reason.
Why? Those parts of the world are relatively safe and actually quite enjoyable places to visit.

Iraq.!

I bought and then refunded the AZ LCA misprice tickets, which as it turns out if I hadn;t would've had me in Cyrus during the whole Lebanon evacuation last summer. :eek: :td: So, I'll add LCA and BEY to the do not fly to list. ;)

I bought and then refunded the AZ LCA misprice tickets, which as it turns out if I hadn;t would've had me in Cyrus during the whole Lebanon evacuation last summer. :eek: :td: So, I'll add LCA and BEY to the do not fly to list. ;)

Why?

I was in Cairo on a very "special" hotel price during that time; used the LCA tickets to get there. No problems at all in LCA or CAI.

I bought and then refunded the AZ LCA misprice tickets, which as it turns out if I hadn;t would've had me in Cyrus during the whole Lebanon evacuation last summer. :eek: :td: So, I'll add LCA and BEY to the do not fly to list. ;)
BEY may not have been too fun for that week or so, but LCA was perfectly fine. Except for a few more ships in the harbor and a few more planes/ground vehicles at the airport, there was hardly any sign that anything was going on. A didn't feel there were any safety concerns whatsoever.

I said I'd start with the list of not recommended places from the State Department and whittle it down from there on a case-by-case basis. Certainly I've been to places on the State Department's lists, which is why I said case-by-case basis.
I agree with you, because currently on the list are the following:

Afghanistan 04/04/2007 --- Congo, Democratic Republic of the 03/23/2007
Algeria 03/22/2007 --- Central African Republic 03/06/2007
East Timor 03/02/2007 --- Liberia 02/16/2007
Guinea 02/12/2007 --- Kenya 02/06/2007
Burundi 01/24/2007 --- Nigeria 01/19/2007
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 01/17/2007 --- Haiti 01/10/2007
Indonesia 01/09/2007 --- Lebanon 12/22/2006
Saudi Arabia 12/19/2006 --- Côte d'Ivoire 12/18/2006
Nepal 12/08/2006 --- Pakistan 12/05/2006
Chad 11/20/2006 --- Syria 11/13/2006
Sri Lanka 10/23/2006 --- Yemen 10/13/2006
Iran 10/10/2006 --- Sudan 10/05/2006
Uzbekistan 10/04/2006 --- Iraq 08/28/2006
Philippines 06/16/2006 --- Eritrea 06/05/2006
Somalia 06/05/2006 --- Bosnia-Herzegovina 03/30/2006
Colombia 01/18/2006

Personally there are only 9 countries on that list that I would not go to.

Why? Those parts of the world are relatively safe and actually quite enjoyable places to visit.
Guatemala City and San Salvador have really serious gang problems.

They just don't seem safe to me but also, I have no interest in going there.

I've been to Panama City (PTY) and loved it, I'd rather just go back there. Safer, little chaotic but fairly well off.

I would never go to BUF regardless of the miles rewarded...

I would never go to BUF regardless of the miles rewarded...

Why would you refuse free miles doing a turn-around MR, being in the airport for an hour?

To hell and back?

If you are doing a mileage run to Hell, do avoid domestic flights, as you don't get miles on Norwegian domestic flights. The flights from AMS (Skyteam), CPH and ARN (*A) do give you miles however. :D

The point being that the Norwegian airport TRD (Trondheim lufthavn Værnes), is located next to a village called Hell. Thus one can fly from Hell to HEL (Helsinki) with one change of A/C. TRD is a major airport, serving the third largest city of Norway.

I agree with you, because currently on the list are the following:

Afghanistan 04/04/2007 --- Congo, Democratic Republic of the 03/23/2007
Algeria 03/22/2007 --- Central African Republic 03/06/2007
East Timor 03/02/2007 --- Liberia 02/16/2007
Guinea 02/12/2007 --- Kenya 02/06/2007
Burundi 01/24/2007 --- Nigeria 01/19/2007
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 01/17/2007 --- Haiti 01/10/2007
Indonesia 01/09/2007 --- Lebanon 12/22/2006
Saudi Arabia 12/19/2006 --- Côte d'Ivoire 12/18/2006
Nepal 12/08/2006 --- Pakistan 12/05/2006
Chad 11/20/2006 --- Syria 11/13/2006
Sri Lanka 10/23/2006 --- Yemen 10/13/2006
Iran 10/10/2006 --- Sudan 10/05/2006
Uzbekistan 10/04/2006 --- Iraq 08/28/2006
Philippines 06/16/2006 --- Eritrea 06/05/2006
Somalia 06/05/2006 --- Bosnia-Herzegovina 03/30/2006
Colombia 01/18/2006

Personally there are only 9 countries on that list that I would not go to.

I agree.
The warning apply mostly to US citizens.
If you are a citizen of the counties listed above or non-US, I don't see a reason why you can't fly home for mileage purposes or visit some (not all) of the countries on that list.
Remember: each country has its own "don't travel to these places" list.

CVF - No aborted takeoff. No go around on landing.

World's Most Dangerous Airports (http://www.jaunted.com/tag/World%27s%20Most%20Dangerous%20Airports)