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SmilingBoy
Feb 20, 07, 4:49 am
I would like to sign up for the automated border control at FRA. Am I correct in assuming that this will work with a German Personalausweis (national ID)?

Anything else to consider (besides what is written on the website of the automated border control)?

SmilingBoy.

Rambuster
Feb 20, 07, 4:59 am
Don't you need the passport for this ?
(I haven't signed up, as I hardly ever start my trips from FRA thesedays)

Triple3
Feb 20, 07, 5:04 am
You are not.

You'll need a machine-readable passport. Your ID card is not sufficient (as it is not sufficient if you leave the EU).

Cheers.

SmilingBoy
Feb 20, 07, 5:08 am
I don't know. The English version of the page talks about passport, the German version about "Reisedokument", and different types of "Reisedokument". ID card is not especially stated.

SmilingBoy.

Rambuster
Feb 20, 07, 5:15 am
I would argue that the Personalausweis is not primarily a travel document but more of an idenfication document. The passport however would be primarily a travel document.

LH_Fan
Feb 20, 07, 5:19 am
The hardware they use is set up to deal with passports, not ID cards.

supermasterphil
Feb 20, 07, 5:20 am
The ID (Personalausweis) wouldn't really make sense... It must be the Reisepass...

SmilingBoy
Feb 20, 07, 5:23 am
You are not.

You'll need a machine-readable passport. Your ID card is not sufficient (as it is not sufficient if you leave the EU).

Cheers.Thanks, I guess I'll take both my ID card and my passport with me. But note that I can fly from FRA to LHR with just my ID card, and even if flying outside Europe (or for the quick walk to the B SEN lounge from the B Schengen gates), I always only show my ID card when at a European (especially German) border control.

Thanks to the others as well. This makes it less helpful to me as I often only travel with an ID card.

SmilingBoy.

Uli
Feb 20, 07, 5:42 am
i use it regularly, since when it was first installed. you need to register your passport for it, they dont accept ID cards.

szg
Feb 20, 07, 6:21 am
You need a passport. This service is for all passengers, not only for germans.

I am (Austrian) also registered and it works very fine for me.

Yoshi DUS
Feb 20, 07, 6:33 am
Pasport is mandatory. Here is the link

http://www.bundespolizei.de/cln_029/nn_484494/DE/Home/ABG/ABG__anmod.html__nnn=true

FLYGVA
Feb 20, 07, 6:49 am
Passport, it will not even work with BPA ("Bundespersonalausweis") as this is a question of abiliy to scan this dokuments. BPA's are scannable, but not for this sort of thing - do not aks me any details, but this is what I was told by somebody from the IT Department of the BMI.

Registration is at the BGS office near LH's First Class / Business Class Check In Area.

alex0683de
Feb 20, 07, 7:47 am
You need a passport. This service is for all passengers, not only for germans.

I am (Austrian) also registered and it works very fine for me.

That's not quite true. The service is for all passengers who have an EU citizenship. Non-EU citizens are not eligible for automated passport control.

And I can confirm that they will only accept passports, I specifically asked about my Personalausweis when I signed up and they said the system couldn't handle it.

airoli
Feb 20, 07, 8:52 am
That's not quite true. The service is for all passengers who have an EU citizenship. Non-EU citizens are not eligible for automated passport control.And that's not quite true, either. ;) Swiss citizens can take part in the program as well.

roundtheworld
Feb 20, 07, 9:26 am
I would like to sign up for the automated border control at FRA. Am I correct in assuming that this will work with a German Personalausweis (national ID)?

Anything else to consider (besides what is written on the website of the automated border control)?

SmilingBoy.

Only works with Passport

SmilingBoy
Feb 20, 07, 9:39 am
Thanks everyone. Will definitely take my passport tomorrow. This will be helpful as my Schengen flight leaves at gate B12 tomorrow, so I can use the automated control to get from the SEN lounge in B to the Schengen B gates. Correct? (And is this the best lounge to be at if you want to stay there as long as possible - I will have a conference call that I hope I won't need to cut short.)

SmilingBoy.

szg
Feb 20, 07, 10:19 am
(And is this the best lounge to be at if you want to stay there as long as possible - I will have a conference call that I hope I won't need to cut short.)

SmilingBoy.

You have to pass the security control again, when you enter the Schengen-Gates. So, donīt stay to long in the lounge .....

SmilingBoy
Feb 20, 07, 10:28 am
You have to pass the security control again, when you enter the Schengen-Gates. So, donīt stay to long in the lounge .....Hm. But it shouldn't be too bad tomorrow afternoon at 16:00, right? The walk from A26 is very long as well though. Let's see, I might just run for the earlier flight to INN and take the call from the hotel at Innsbruck. And do the automated border control sign-up some other time.

SmilingBoy.

Kiwi Flyer
Feb 20, 07, 11:25 am
This isn't about LH or M&M so I'll move to Germany forum.

Kiwi Flyer
LH moderator