Hi,

i thought as this is germany related it is the right place to post it here. if not, mods please move it to the accurate forum.

well i need the help of some experts here,

i bought a Mobilephone from someone in germany, and my friend is gonna take that out of germany , so we want to get the tax back at the airport.

does anybody knows a way, or the right procedure how we can handle this?

as the person who is carrying it out of germany , is not the person on the invoice how should we lable it ?

here is the scenario

The mobile phone was bought at a Eplus shop in germany.
it was bought bei Riegel Ruedi , invoice name is riegel ruedi
he did sell the phone to me
my friend peter pan will now take the phone to china for me

now how can we get back the tax , as normally the name on the invoice has to be matching the travellings persons name.

would it be sufficient if Riegel Ruedi wrote a PRIVATRECHNUNG to me with my chinese adress and peter pan would only be the transporter who claims the tax back in "meinem auftrag" ?

i think that , if riegel ruedi sells the thing to me, it shouldnt matter if the invoice name is not matching the person who is exporting it, if there is a eidesstattliche erklaerung /or a document which is proving that it will be exported and was sold to a citizien outside of the EU ?


folks we are talking about 19% here :) thats 300 Euro tax back. :p please help.

dp

please close.

thx

No way to claim VAT back for you because you did not buy it with VAT. Riegel Rudi bought it and he could have claimed VAT back. He sold it as a private person to you, so the deal was NOT subject to any VAT - you will take a VAT fee phone out of Germany.

No way to claim VAT back for you because you did not buy it with VAT. Riegel Rudi bought it and he could have claimed VAT back. He sold it as a private person to you, so the deal was NOT subject to any VAT - you will take a VAT fee phone out of Germany.

my question is, how i can get the vat back, and olli did answer me in the other thread that "ruedi " :D has to claim the tax back.

dp

Based on the story you told this would be tax fraud as Ruedi has already sold the phone to you and did not export it out of the country:D

Based on the story you told this would be tax fraud as Ruedi has already sold the phone to you and did not export it out of the country:D

actually rudi is a friend who bought it in "meinem auftrag" :D

i dont think its fraud, as we are taking the phone phsically out of germany.
if we take it out of the country and after it is in asia it is sold to me, would that be legal?

dp

actually rudi is a friend who bought it in "meinem auftrag" :D

i dont think its fraud, as we are taking the phone phsically out of germany.
if we take it out of the country and after it is in asia it is sold to me, would that be legal?

dp

If Ruedi takes it out of the country, yes. It would be by far easier (and legal) if the exporters name is in the invoice. It does not matter (at least from a German perspective) what happens to the phone after export (as long as it does not get re-imported).

By the way: Did you hear about the CEO of a Finish mobile phone manufacturer who claimed a VAT refund in Switzerland for a 20.000 Francs watch and forget to declare it when arriving in Norway? Swiss customs hat informed Norwegian customs and several people had a good laugh as this Gentleman tried to excuse himself by saying the he did not know that this import into Norway could be liable to customs and VAT...:D

If Ruedi takes it out of the country, yes. It would be by far easier (and legal) if the exporters name is in the invoice. It does not matter (at least from a German perspective) what happens to the phone after export (as long as it does not get re-imported).

By the way: Did you hear about the CEO of a Finish mobile phone manufacturer who claimed a VAT refund in Switzerland for a 20.000 Francs watch and forget to declare it when arriving in Norway? Swiss customs hat informed Norwegian customs and several people had a good laugh as this Gentleman tried to excuse himself by saying the he did not know that this import into Norway could be liable to customs and VAT...:D

i bought another one on ebay today , for half the amount and do not need to claim VAT back :)

much easier.

dp

folks we are talking about 19% here :) thats 300 Euro tax back. :p

Just curious: What sort of phone did you buy
- for close to € 1.900 incl VAT
- from an Eplus-Dealer???

Moving to Europe travel forum.


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