UPDATE on the 8th of January 2008!


For EVERYONE who has questions if their seats will be the new ones or old ones. Just download the Alitalia Travel Desk (on their website) and if you plane is listed as ....
764 you have the new seats.
767 Regular AZ 767. Old Magnifica Seats

For REGs.
EI-CRM, I-DEIG, EI-DDW, EI-DBP (from the beginning of April 2008) EI-CRF, EI-CRD have the NEW lie-flat Magnifica.

Pictures and discussion of new Magnifica Lie-flat seat in Italian
http://www.aviazionecivile.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13609
My TR of the NEW SEATS with PICTURES
http://www.aviazionecivile.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18990
Links currently don't work as the website changed forum. I will try to get new ones up.

Old Seat Magnifica Seat:
http://www1.airliners.net/open.file/0806003/M/

Seat Plans. From www.alitalia777.it

764 (New Configuration and Lie-flat seats)
http://www.alitalia777.it/images/cabina%20AZ%20767%20CRM.jpg
767 (Standard AZ old Magnifica seats)
http://www.alitalia777.it/images/cabina%20AZ%20767%20ST.jpg


If you have any more questions just ask. I think this covers it all.

I-DEIB (767) has left the fleet and now flies for Varig as PR-VAG
I-DEIC (767) will leave the fleet to go to TAM in April or May.
I-DEID (767) will leave the fleet to go to TAM, it currently is not flying anymore

So by summer it will leave us with 10 767, 6 of which will have the new business class for sure. So thats a 60% chance...
Routes that will not see the new seats anytime soon: CCS, MIA, ORD (union agreements say that they need a horizontal crew rest for these long flights which currently only the old alitalia 767's have).

Is it possible to make this a sticky?
Very useful information, and this is all normally almost impossible to find.

When we get our AZ forum this certainly will be a sticky there! (magari)

edit to add: ^ Yes, abbiamo un forum dedicato al AZ!

When we get our AZ forum this certainly will be a sticky there! (magari)

It could be possible as soon as AZ comes out of this situation! And... a new talkboard has beeen elected ^

Finger crossed
maclover

Fantastic thread!

6 months of rumour and conjecture in the mileage run forum quashed with a single post.:-:

Now I know which plane I'm probably flying, and what seats to expect.

My only question now is, has anybody ordered the vegetarian meal in Magnifica?

My only question now is, has anybody ordered the vegetarian meal in Magnifica?

Yes, my partner had the vegetarian meal from YYZ-MXP and MXP-YYZ. On the flight to Italy, the main course was a lasagna-like pasta dish (meatless of course).

On the return flight, her main course seemed to be a type of spinach medallion. She also had a salad with two slices of hard-boiled egg. I'll check my notes and post more details later, but I do also remember that while the main meal didn't seem to have as much protein or substance as the meat options, when they served the final "snack", hers was much more like a regular meal. It included a cold plate of salad, potatoes, vegetables, and seasoned legumes, not to mention a repeat of the two slices of hard-boiled egg. My non-vegetarian snack, in comparison, was a cheese plate. Rolls were also served for both meals. I think she felt like there was plenty to eat and that she got enough protein.

Thank you. That sounds very edible.
I would certainly appreciate any more information if you do retrieve your notes. (I'll only be travelling from YYZ-MXP with AZ)

does anyone know if the old planes have power ports in biz class?

also, do they give out the personal tvs on yyz-mxp on the old planes like they did this summer on yyz-fco?

thnx,
r

Easy questions to answer. Kinda like the Capital 1 commercial...
does anyone know if the old planes have power ports in biz class?

NO.
also, do they give out the personal tvs on yyz-mxp on the old planes like they did this summer on yyz-fco? thnx,
r

Also NO, since the DigEplayers use the in-seat power ports for juice.

Very usefull guide for the 767!
Any news about 777 seats?

Thank you. That sounds very edible.
I would certainly appreciate any more information if you do retrieve your notes. (I'll only be travelling from YYZ-MXP with AZ)

What I was served with was one of the worst and sorriest vegetarian meals I've ever got on a flight (and I'm including my flights in Economy):td: :td: :td:

First an assortment of nuts, not warmed, but very good quality ones. (pecans, cashews, almonds and hazelnuts)

The starter was alrightish and I got the same as everyone else: Ravioli stuffed with ricotta w/chicory and a watery sage sauce (avoid!) and penette in a tomato & basil sauce (which was fine - but no sign that the sauce was made of 'fresh cherry tomatoes')

The next dish was the vegetarian option:
An oblong platter filled with a strip of chopped spinach, a middle strip of basmati rice (coloured yellow, but not with saffron) and another strip of some horrid chickpea concoction. It was supposedly Indian (I chose the 'standard' ovo-lacto vegetarian) but there was no nan, yoghurt, pickles or any of the other condiments that could have made this horrible 'tricolore' edible. If I'd paid a normal C fare for this flight I would have been fuming.

Requesting a seafood meal on AZ isn't an option. I waited until the FAs had finished serving and asked if there was a seafood meal spare.

I got the Grilled seafood brochete served with buttered asparagus and carrots. (in reality; a tiny piece of white fish, another incy piece of salmon and a solitary prawn. Some anorexically thin asparagus that might have been retrieved from a freezer cabinet, call it 'sparrow grass' and you're there, and about 6 pieces of carrot that tasted more of butter than carrot. I say this as I hate cooked carrots and didn't mind eating these - which is a truly back handed compliment) Have to say that the seafood meal was way nicer than the vegetarian meal.
Everything else was the same as the other pax:

Cheese was fine - 2 fat chunks of parmesan and 2 wedges of fontina(?) a prune, carrot sticks, celery, 2 round small crackers and your choice of fruit.

And I was feeling quite stuffed when dessert was brought round. I chose a cream cake over the chocolate one and it was DELICIOUS. Best dessert I've ever had in the air.

Alas, no limoncello:( .

I wanted the 'Gavi' a white wine from Piemonte, but they didn't have it. They had the Clefi (from Lombardia) and Pinot Grigio (Adige Valley) - I chose the Clefi, which was OK.

The seat was extremely firm at the lumbar region, but I found it quite comfortable (I'm happy I didn't get the new style 'lie flat' seat - I found it much more comfortable than my recent experience flying ANA) and slept like a baby through most of the flight. Which is why I can't comment on breakfast.

FAs were polite. Entertainment options were terrible (you'd have to wait until well after dinner service was over if you wanted to watch a film - no way to watch one AND snooze, so I can't even tell you what they showed).

The amenity box was very nice (I'll be using ours to store jewellery).

Our priority tagged luggage came out almost immediately.^

I flew to YYZ with Air Canada in their new REAL lie flat seat pods - the food on AC was infinitely better. The service from AC was just as nice as that from AZ. The seats on AZ were more sociable for those travelling as a couple and I have to admit that I slept nearly as well on AZ as I did on AC (although the AC seats are much, much better).

Cabin temperature on AZ was WAY too warm - take care not to overheat!

All in all a good experience.

I had a great experience with Alitalia on the 6th. FCO-EWR in J with the new business class. Excellent flight, GREAT food, very friendly service and great new seats. Pictures will be up soon.

considering how many questions get posted about the Alitalia 767's. Even thought this is not a Alitalia ONLY forum. Can we please make this a STICKY?!

So I'm still a little confused when I go to the Alitalia website. Can someone tell me what kind of business class seats are on the JFK - MXP/MXP-JFK routes?

Thanks

It is OT considering its a 777. But ....
http://www.alitalia777.it/interiors.html

It is OT considering its a 777. But ....
http://www.alitalia777.it/interiors.html

hi, sorry, what does OT mean? thanks.

hi, sorry, what does OT mean? thanks.

Off topic.

Just download the Alitalia Travel Desk (on their website) and if you plane is listed as ....
764 you have the new seats.
767 Regular AZ 767. Old Magnifica Seats
763 Ex. Air Canada 767 has old AirCanada business seats (broken and let me stop there).
762 Ex. Eurofly 767 equipped with Old Magnifica Seats.Between my wife and myself, we have flights booked between ORD and MXP on 7 planes in the next few months. Every one comes up on the Travel Desk as a 767. Does this mean they are actually flying the same metal every time, or is it just giving a generic listing?

alitalia.com won't show any of my itineraries. How do I know for sure what metal we'll be on?

Between my wife and myself, we have flights booked between ORD and MXP on 7 planes in the next few months. Every one comes up on the Travel Desk as a 767. Does this mean they are actually flying the same metal every time, or is it just giving a generic listing?

alitalia.com won't show any of my itineraries. How do I know for sure what metal we'll be on?

Will you be flying in business or in economy?

Yeah, no 764 are sent to ORD because it is one of Alitalia's longer flights and only the old 767 have crew rests (horizontal beds...).

Will you be flying in business or in economy?Economy. (actually promo, the real cheap web fare).

OK, so now I know to use that seat map for all my ord-mxp segments. Grazie!

Economy. (actually promo, the real cheap web fare).

OK, so now I know to use that seat map for all my ord-mxp segments. Grazie!

i mean in the end... the economy seats are the same in both the reconfigured and no reconfigured planes (code 764 and 767), only difference for the reconfigured ones is that you get more LCD tv's in the ISLES.
But yeah for seat assignments the code for your plane is 767.

We're flying on AZ645/AZ644 764 in March (economy). Seem a bit of discussion on the seats on Alitlia planes and was wondering if my wife and I had a choice of the 2 outside seats or hoping to get 2 of the 3 seats in the middle section..which would be the wiser choice? Some planes on the outside seats have a curveture which makes it a bit uncomfortable. Where are the LCD monitors for viewing in economy??? Seatguru doesn't have a good layout of the Alitalia planes.

Thanks

We're flying on AZ645/AZ644 764 in March (economy). Seem a bit of discussion on the seats on Alitlia planes and was wondering if my wife and I had a choice of the 2 outside seats or hoping to get 2 of the 3 seats in the middle section..which would be the wiser choice? Some planes on the outside seats have a curveture which makes it a bit uncomfortable. Where are the LCD monitors for viewing in economy??? Seatguru doesn't have a good layout of the Alitalia planes.

Thanks

On the 764 Alitalia has increased significantly the number of LCD monitors in the cabin. So all seats should be fine for viewing the screens.

How many do they have of each configuration? Also, is there a list available of the names of the planes (each one has a name on the nose; I was on 767 Marco Polo a few days ago, it was very nice and clean).

How is the floor space underneath the two seats on the outside of the plane? Some planes I've flown on have reduced floor space next to the window. Is this true on the 764??

Also, are there power ports at the seats in economy???

thanks

How is the floor space underneath the two seats on the outside of the plane? Some planes I've flown on have reduced floor space next to the window. Is this true on the 764??

Also, are there power ports at the seats in economy???

thanks

Seat pitch is the same in ALL of the economy cabin, the 2 seats by the window do not have reduced pitch.
No powerports.

How many do they have of each configuration? Also, is there a list available of the names of the planes (each one has a name on the nose; I was on 767 Marco Polo a few days ago, it was very nice and clean).

I-DEIB Pier Paolo Racchetti Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
I-DEIC Alberto Nassetti Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
I-DEID Marco Polo Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
I-DEIF Cristoforo Colombo Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
I-DEIG Francesco Agello Reconfigured Configuration 764
I-DEIL Arturo Ferrarin Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
EI-CRL Leonardo Da Vinci Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
EI-CRM Amerigo Vespucci Reconfigured Configuration 764
EI-CRO Francesco De Pinedo Standard Alitalia Configuration 767
EI-CRD Giovanni da Verazzano Eurofly Configuration 762. Should be reconfigured by summer.
EI-CRF Umberto Nobile Eurofly Configuration 762. Should be reconfigured by summer.
EI-DBP Duca degli Abruzzi AirCanada Configuration 763. Should be reconfigured by summer.
EI-DDW Sebastiano Caboto Reconfigured Configuration 764. Due back in service by mid February.

so when did Alitalia actually do this upgrade? Is BOS-MXP with the new Magnifica? I tried to look on their website (:) ) and no mention of the new Magnifica at all...boh...

HA!! my favourite Italian word - BOH!
What a wonderful word with so many uses. Especially here in the Veneto where all the men seem to use it to mean everything from the classic "I don't know." to "Go away and make it fast!"...

so when did Alitalia actually do this upgrade? Is BOS-MXP with the new Magnifica? I tried to look on their website (:) ) and no mention of the new Magnifica at all...boh...

so when did Alitalia actually do this upgrade? Is BOS-MXP with the new Magnifica? I tried to look on their website (:) ) and no mention of the new Magnifica at all...boh...

Yes it on the BOS-MXP route or anytime you see 764. Well on their website they don't even talk about the 777 business class or any business class SEATS for that matter.
What do you mean when did they do the upgrade?

I mean, when did they change the Magnifica seats?

I mean, when did they change the Magnifica seats?

EI-CRM had the new seats installed December 2005.
I-DEIG had the new seats installed in October/ December 2006.
EI-DDW is still having them installed. Dont know why its taking 3 months.
EI-DBP, EI-CRD, EI-CRF should have been done by summer but I highly doubt it at this point.

EI-CRM had the new seats installed December 2005.
I-DEIG had the new seats installed in October/ December 2006.
EI-DDW is still having them installed. Dont know why its taking 3 months.
EI-DBP, EI-CRD, EI-CRF should have been done by summer but I highly doubt it at this point.

EI-DDW is still in GSO, dont know why. EI-DBP will go when it comes back

EI-DDW is still in GSO, dont know why. EI-DBP will go when it comes back


EI-DDW will come back on the 28th of Feb.
So now there are three reconfigured 767.
EI-CRM
EI-DDW
I-DEIG

So now there are three reconfigured 767.
EI-CRM
EI-DDW
I-DEIG
And, to make it easier to spot them, look at the name on the nose:
EI-CRM .... Amerigo Vespucci
EI-DDW ... Sebastiano Caboto
I-DEIG ..... Francesco Agello

Little update.
EI-DDW is back and back in service with new configuration
EI-CRM went to GSO for a check and should be back at the end of the month (right now there are still 2 764).
On April 1st EI-DBP will go to GSO and will be back my July.
So by the summer season there will be 4 767 with new J.

Also sad detail. Beginning of 2008 I-DEIB, I-DEIC, and I-DEID will leave the feel because AZ did not renew their leasing contracts. :mad:
This will leave us with 10 767's.

I-DEIB Pier Paolo Racchetti
I-DEIC Alberto Nassetti
I-DEID Marco Polo

EI-CRF Umberto Nobile Eurofly Configuration 762. Should be reconfigured by summer.I saw EI-CRF parked at MXP a couple weeks ago. As best as I could see, the name Umberto Nobile was not on the nose- part of a repainting I presume? Or might they be renaming them as they reconfigure them?

Also sad detail. Beginning of 2008 I-DEIB, I-DEIC, and I-DEID will leave the feel because AZ did not renew their leasing contracts..Sad. I've flown all three of those this year.

If they're dropping 3 of the 767's, does that mean they're planning to drop routes? (or, magari, put 777's on ORD-MXP?????)

I saw EI-CRF parked at MXP a couple weeks ago. As best as I could see, the name Umberto Nobile was not on the nose- part of a repainting I presume? Or might they be renaming them as they reconfigure them?

Sad. I've flown all three of those this year.

If they're dropping 3 of the 767's, does that mean they're planning to drop routes? (or, magari, put 777's on ORD-MXP?????)

Dropping PVG, DEL and maybe DXB. So rumors say at least...

I saw EI-CRF parked at MXP a couple weeks ago. As best as I could see, the name Umberto Nobile was not on the nose- part of a repainting I presume? Or might they be renaming them as they reconfigure them?

Sad. I've flown all three of those this year.

If they're dropping 3 of the 767's, does that mean they're planning to drop routes? (or, magari, put 777's on ORD-MXP?????)

Yeah, if no new planes come at the last moment some routes will have to be cut. I am predicting PVG and BOM to go 1st, then possibly DEL or DXB (reductions) if needed. Also predicting there will not be a second daily FCO-JFK next summer.
For the 777 on MXP-ORD... not in the near future...

The name should be on the front left hand side of the plane... they are all in the same place considering no 767 have the new livery as of yet, and i doubt they will anytime soon...

It's sad.

My reservation showed that my MXP-YYZ on 3/18 was supposed to be on a 774 (Gasp!!) .. I was sooo excited that I gleefully endured the pain of lumpy seats and broken footrests on the three other segments I had to fly before this one (YYZ-MXP-BOM-MXP) all in the old Magnifica. The upshot was that we got the new Bvlgari amenity kits on the YYZ-MXP leg, which was lovely !!

The sad part was that after all that excitement and anticipation, we got a 767 on that fateful flight too :(
None of the inflight attendants had an idea of what I was talking about either when I asked them if this flight was supposed to be on a 774. Some even looked at me like I was out of my mind when I mentioned the "new Magnifica"... is there something we know that the Alitalia staff do not?

FoT

is there something we know that the Alitalia staff do not?This is FlyerTalk. We all find that there are often things we know that the staff of the airline doesn't know, not just with AZ, but with any of the companies.

:)

That goes with the basic rule of thumb- if you've learned here that something should be a certain way, and a customer service agent tells you differently, hang up and call back till you get someone who gives you the right answer.

My reservation showed that my MXP-YYZ on 3/18 was supposed to be on a 774 (Gasp!!) .. I was sooo excited that I gleefully endured the pain of lumpy seats and broken footrests on the three other segments I had to fly before this one (YYZ-MXP-BOM-MXP) all in the old Magnifica. The upshot was that we got the new Bvlgari amenity kits on the YYZ-MXP leg, which was lovely !!

The sad part was that after all that excitement and anticipation, we got a 767 on that fateful flight too :(
None of the inflight attendants had an idea of what I was talking about either when I asked them if this flight was supposed to be on a 774. Some even looked at me like I was out of my mind when I mentioned the "new Magnifica"... is there something we know that the Alitalia staff do not?

FoT

Alitalia have been having problems with their 767 fleet so there have been frequent plane changes...

And its 764 by the way nont 774. Anyways better luck next time

Update.
Currently FLYING with new configuration
EI-CRM
EI-DDW
I-DEIG

Currently being RETROFITTED
EI-CRF (should be done my mid may) hopefully they can fit another one in before summer if they hurry up. That will be either EI-DBP or EI-CRD

Also sad detail. Beginning of 2008 I-DEIB, I-DEIC, and I-DEID will leave the feel because AZ did not renew their leasing contracts. :mad: I'm batting 4 for 5 so far this year, 4 of my flights have been on the equipment they are dropping. I was on I-DEID Marco Polo last night, second time this year, and it's deteriorated since January. Seems they're letting maintanence slip on those planes.

Two of the four coach lavs were taped shut with out of service signs. A third one had a bad door latch, it could still be pushed open when locked, and half the time when people locked it the sign didn't slide from green to red... so lots of walk-in incidents during the flight. :eek:

The crew, on the other hand, was excellent- much more active than usual. They would jump at the FA call button and almost run to check on the person who paged them, they were always around and available, and kept the beverages flowing. (still, with just two operable lavs, towards the latter half of the flight those were getting rather messy). Of course, as is usual on AZ, the seat belt sign was on for 3/4th of the flight, but the pax pretty much ignored it the whole time.

The flight was completely full, overbooked in both cabins, so at least AZ earned some money. ^
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Make that 5 out of 6- I just got I-DEID Marco Polo for the third time this year. :confused:
At least they fixed the lavs in time for this flight. (well, partly- that lock still didn't work completely).
But again, the crew was much more active than what we've come to expect from AZ- they were always available, and kept the plane clean.

Gargoyle... it's extremely sad that they keep some planes in those conditions.

But I'm glad you appreciate the AZ crews. Some are fantastic.... a couple are horrendous. The inconsistency is what gives them a bad name...


At least for the lav's there is some type of SLOW improvement.

Don't know of any of you AZ regulars can help me here...I'm flying BOM-MXP in June, it's an overnight flight - any word on how good the Business Class seats are on this route? I normally go BA (sorry!) so have got kind of used to their flat beds...but on this occasion commitments and schedules require me to take AZ. Any info gratefully recieved!

Grazie mille

EB

I'm flying BOM-MXP in June, it's an overnight flight You can look it up in the Alitalia TravelDesk (their downloadable timetable) or let us know the date and flight number and we'll look it up. Based on that we can see what equipment they are using. I checked a half dozen dates, they all listed it as a 764. So...
Per italian7's post (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6792117&postcount=1) in this thread, 764 means you have the new seats. Auguri!... Enjoy!

Bellissimo - at least I might get a bit of kip on the way over then!

I checked my travel date (11th June) and it was a 764, but the website made no real mention of new Magnifica or anything like that.

Grazie! ^

Here is the only reference on AZ's website about the new magnifica on the 767... lol
http://corporate.alitalia.it/it/group/fleet/b767200er.htm

June SHOULD BE all with a '764'. July then become a '763' which means the old Air Canada one which I strongly advise making sure you DON'T get.

Only thing there is no guarantee... last minute swaps have happened...

Ok so EI-CFR is back today.
So now we have
EI-CRM
EI-CRF
EI-DDW
I-DEIG

that are done...

Now it seems reconfiguration will be done at MXP.... :eek:

Does anyone know what seats to expect in business class from
TLV-MXP (A320) and from MXP-DKR(A321)?

Does anyone know what seats to expect in business class from
TLV-MXP (A320) and from MXP-DKR(A321)?



They are regular seats, one one side there is an empty seat. So its a 2-3 configuration. Food is good. Nothing special though


EDIT, have UPDATED the 1st page with all information about the 767 fleet and its current status as of 6/19/07

This question was in another AZ thread, but I'm posting the reply here since this info belongs with the sticky.

AZ customer service was only able to tell me that I couldn't earn miles on a promo fare, but not on which fares one could earn miles.I've booked perhaps a half dozen promo fares this year on the AZ site and earned DL miles for them. Most of them were L class.

Alitalia fare classes:

First & Business Class J, C, D, I
Full Fare Economy Class Y
Economy Class B, M, H, K, V, T, Q, X, W
Discount Economy Class A, N, L, O, S

YBM earn 1.5x MQM on DL
H, K, V, T, Q, A, N, L, O, X, W, S earn 1x MQM on DL
(note this conflicts with what you saw on the DL site, which says A, along with R, U, and Z, doesn't earn DL miles)

R does not earn miles

Please help calm my nerves. After reading about Alitalia online I am concerned with a few issues. I will be flying to Cairo via Milan (MXP) from Boston with a 5 year old and a nervous husband on a 767-200 or 762.

What is the final word on electronics like IPODS and portable DVDs? I called twice and heard "NO, never" and "yes, after take off". Both agreed that it was up to crew. That does not give me any peace of mind. Anyone have recent experience? (I am told there are not personal LCDs on this flight).

Do the arm rests move up so one can spread out? I saw a picture which seemed to show they did not move in the A and C seats. Currently we have A, C and D.
Are all the 767-200 updated with new seats or am I on an old plane?

Anyone know what movies they are playing in later July? Is there anyway to find out?

Is the food and service as bad as I am hearing?
Should I worry about a 3 hour connection in Milan?
Are they strict about the 11 lb max for carry ons? I packed a bag with just some clothes for the 3 of us in case we lose our bags but it weighed 18lbs! I think the bag itself is about 7lbs!
Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
A.

The arm rests do move, but the seats in coach are a bit like bucket seats, so they're comfortable enough sitting upright, but if you try to lay down across two or three seats there is a lump in the middle; uncomfortable.

On my AZ flight last week lots of people were watching personal DVD players and the like. Note that Italians like little children, so as long as your five year old has reasonable manners you'll be treated well. The food is generally fine, as airline food goes.

I've only had my carryon weighted maybe 2 or 3 times in many dozens of AZ TATL (trans-atlantic) flights, and they let me slide each time. Unlike LH, which measured every gram.

Three hours to connect at MXP is a cakewalk. I'd be a little concerned if you have less than 35 minutes, in that case you'd have to walk fast.

Bottom line, and with all due respect, the flight from BOS-MXP is only maybe 7 hours, if your husband and 5 year old can't survive that and keep themselves entertained there are issues bigger than AZ. (note, the return flight will be an hour or so longer). So, enjoy!

hello all
I was just wondering about a flight from Milan to PVG on 8th of september.
I really can't get much info anywhere about this flight so i was wondering what is the in flight entartainment because it's a really long flight for me.
The only info i have is that i am flying bussiness class and the flight number is A790.

Please help

Thank you all

UPDATE


Ok so EI-CFD is back.
So now we have
EI-CRM
EI-CRD
EI-CRF
EI-DDW
I-DEIG

5 are now done. EI-DBP is in the process of retrofit, so now you only fly on the old alitalia business class or the new one (no more aircanada ones).
I-DEIB leaves the fleet on the 24 of Feb to go to Varig
I-DEIC leaves the fleet March, April or May to go to TAM
I-DEID leaves the fleet in June to go to Tam

Does anyone know what the configuration of the seating on Alitalia short haul business class is - MD80 and A321 etc.

Hi,

Does anybody know what the new status of the airplanes is right now? I would like to book FCO-ORD in C, but want to know what the exact status is. I have multiple options to fly and thought I'd love to try the new Magnifica Class.

Hi,

Does anybody know what the new status of the airplanes is right now? I would like to book FCO-ORD in C, but want to know what the exact status is. I have multiple options to fly and thought I'd love to try the new Magnifica Class.

Unfortunately the FCO-ORD, CCS, MIA routes will not get the '764' with the new Magnifica anytime soon due to the length of the flight and union agreements stating that they have to have a special crew rest for flight longer that 8 / 9 hours (I'm not exactly sure).

Anyways EI-DBP when it will start flying again should have the new seats.

The new seats rotates on the YYZ, BOS, EWR, JFK, LOS (ACC), DXB, BOM and DEL.

Does anyone know what the configuration of the seating on Alitalia short haul business class is - MD80 and A321 etc.

MD80 has the best business class, 2-2 with large comfortable fabric seats (old style)

A319/20/21 - has 2-3 convertable seating like BA but fabric seats.

I am trying to find some links for the new Biz seats on the 764. The links on the first page take me to the home page for that website and it's all in Italian which I would love to read but don't know how. There are no photo's on A.net. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Anyone knows if they plan and when they plan to upgrade their 777 business seats? I plan a trip to EZE with AZ in January and would be interested in betterr sleep as these are nightflights

Just wanted to post a quick msg to everyone - on Dec 19 I flew on AZ609 from JFK to FCO and was seated in 15L. As it turned out, 15A and 15L were window seats without windows. These are not reflected in SeatGuru. I am not sure which Boeing 767 I was on, however, it was pretty old and I hope it ends being one of the aircrafts they are getting rid of.