I will eat just about anything so no problems there. However, my wife is much more particular, and unfortunately, her dislike/won't eat category coincides badly with the Japanese diet.
1. No shellfish.
2. No raw fish.
3. Absolutely no oranges.
4. Not a fan of tofu.
4. A myriad of other specific items to be avoided.
I don't worry that it will be possible for her to eat in Japan, but at the same time, I don't want to miss all the things that I really like -- Shellfish and Sushi/sashimi. Also, many of the restaurants that I have seen offer course menus where you don't really know what you are going to get til it's brought to you or includes one or more courses on the list above.
Kaiseki seems to be out.
Can you order tempura courses without shrimp? or by the piece?
Any suggestions for eating choices? Are restaurants willing to make changes substitutions to their menus?
rjh
Oct 28, 06, 2:21 pm
Maybe you could get a recommendation from your hotel for a robatayaki (Japanese barbeque) place that offered the usual grilled chicken for your wife, but had sashimi (somewhat unusual, but not unheard of) for you. More likely you'd get your fish grilled, though.
Also, depending on your interest, you may want to look for "What's What in Japanese Restaurants," by Robb Satterwhite, ISBN 4770020864
tide
Oct 28, 06, 2:33 pm
Why don't you try an Izakaya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izakaya)? It's like a place where you can drink and eat. All of the ones that I usually go to will have an wide mix of Japanese cuisine e.g. I could be eating slices of raw horse meat while my kids get kabocha (squash) tempuras.
Your hotel could recommend one nearby.
elitetraveler
Oct 28, 06, 2:40 pm
In Japan many restaurants actually have plastic replicas of what you get displayed in the window so you can see what is included and how the food will look.
kcvt750
Oct 28, 06, 7:02 pm
Bring Frosted Flakes.
Pointeater
Oct 28, 06, 7:29 pm
Teppanyaki
Shabu Shabu
McDonalds
Mister Donut
KFC
railroadtycoon
Oct 28, 06, 7:44 pm
Plenty of available items.
Yes tempera can be made without prawns.
There's also Ramen, Udon and a myramid of noodles available to try.
No raw fish, there's cooked fish. Steak, shabu shabu, etc etc along with the items already mentioned.
mosburger
Oct 28, 06, 8:10 pm
Have her food restrictions written down in Japanese, preferably before your trip or latest at your first hotel in Japan. It's easy to slip the note to the chef and ask him/her for "omakase" keeping the dislikes in mind.
ksandness
Oct 28, 06, 9:49 pm
OK, here is my challenge.
I will eat just about anything so no problems there. However, my wife is much more particular, and unfortunately, her dislike/won't eat category coincides badly with the Japanese diet.
Many tempura specialty restaurants have a vegetables-only option or can be persuaded to fix one up for you. There's also a variety that has cooked regular fish instead of prawns.
Almost everyone likes yakitori, especially the kind with alternating bits of chicken and green onions.
Izakaya and robatayaki places are a good suggestions, in that they specialize in preparing what our restaurant industry calls "small plates."
AC110
Oct 28, 06, 9:59 pm
This is very much in the fast food catagory, but in Hong Kong and Manila I enjoyed a chain restaurant, Yoshinoya I think was the name, that served a beef bowl, basically a bowl of rice with strips of beef on top and broth poured over it.
Quite tasty, but - as I said - fast food dining.
Pickles
Oct 28, 06, 10:43 pm
Have her food restrictions written down in Japanese, preferably before your trip or latest at your first hotel in Japan. It's easy to slip the note to the chef and ask him/her for "omakase" keeping the dislikes in mind.
This is a good idea. Also, a number of places will bring you a bento with some of the side dishes that your wife won't eat. You can eat those while she eats the rest. Just make sure beforehand that the main dish is something she will eat, like cooked fish.
If you are a big fan of sushi/sashimi, do not even think of taking her to a good sushi place. There will be nothing for her to eat, except cooked eggs and cucumber rolls. In some places the chef will be personally insulted if you reject his food, and you may want to avoid that.
A lot of places (for example, izakayas and regular restaurants) will also offer sashimi in addition to other things, but that's not the prime stuff. Edible to very good, but rarely for the connoisseur, except at high-end kaseiki or kappo places, which you rightly point out should avoid. At those high-end places substitutions could be considered an insult, since the order, arrangement, and choice of food follows a particular pattern that somebody spent hours fretting over, and you do not want to upset the wa that way. The unscripted agreement is that you will be taken care of, and you are to be grateful for the care you are being given. Making ripples in the water is not appreciated.
If you are big sushi fan, you may want to have the talk with your wife. This is the talk my mother and father had. My mom doesn't really go for raw fish and shellfish, while my dad just loves it, it is probably his favorite food. So the talk was one where my dad told my mom that one night during their trip my mom would have to find herself a place to eat, because he was eating sushi, come hell or high water. They horse traded something, don't remember, but it was along the lines of "then tomorrow we go to the Ginza to look at kimono silks to make a dress for your daughter's wedding" or something like that.
The downside of this is that you may not want to eat sushi anywhere else after that.
mcg1000
Oct 28, 06, 11:01 pm
There are some excellent French and Italian restaurants in Japan. Many of them will be using the same fresh ingredients as their Japanese counterparts and it's easier to order around your wife's dislikes.
Taiwaned
Oct 28, 06, 11:10 pm
Any department store, go to the food floor. You will see an replica of what is on the menu. Your wife can choose what she wants. The food is pretty good.
If your wife loves shopping, then this plan is a BAD idea. You will never get to eat. ;)
RichardInSF
Oct 29, 06, 12:18 pm
This is very much in the fast food catagory, but in Hong Kong and Manila I enjoyed a chain restaurant, Yoshinoya I think was the name, that served a beef bowl, basically a bowl of rice with strips of beef on top and broth poured over it.
Quite tasty, but - as I said - fast food dining.
For the last few years, Yoshinoya as a chain has been suffering badly because it couldn't offer beef due to the Japanese boycott on imported beef. That may still be in place.
Q Shoe Guy
Oct 29, 06, 5:07 pm
For the last few years, Yoshinoya as a chain has been suffering badly because it couldn't offer beef due to the Japanese boycott on imported beef. That may still be in place.
RichardInSF it was USA Beef that did them in.......they have since started again(with one day sales etc.) but ramping up the imports and gaining the Japanese consumers trust will be a long road. BTW, Aussie Beef just doesn't cut it at those restaurants as it is too lean(IMO).
Q Shoe Guy
Oct 29, 06, 5:08 pm
3. Absolutely no oranges.
I guess you don't want a box of mikans......... ;) !
Pickles, gives great advice........I had a relation come and visit and all he would eat was fast food! At least I got him interested in the bread shops, and MOS !
kcvt750
Oct 29, 06, 6:51 pm
RichardInSF it was USA Beef that did them in.......they have since started again(with one day sales etc.)....
Be sure to dial in a 3-8 hr. wait on the days when they have these. :eek:
Q Shoe Guy
Oct 29, 06, 6:54 pm
Be sure to dial in a 3-8 hr. wait on the days when they have these. :eek:
Only in Edo would anyone wait 3-8 hours to eat at Yoshinoya. :eek:
kcvt750
Oct 29, 06, 9:54 pm
Only in Edo would anyone wait 3-8 hours to eat at Yoshinoya. :eek:
Try 2-3 hrs for Cold Stone ice cream @ RH. :p
Q Shoe Guy
Oct 29, 06, 10:06 pm
Try 2-3 hrs for Cold Stone ice cream @ RH. :p
Touche......LOL , my memories of RH are quite foggy, a giant spider comes to mind, then entering a bar...........and then it was just me and the Neowash becoming friendly..... :o
kcvt750
Oct 30, 06, 1:20 am
Touche......LOL , my memories of RH are quite foggy, a giant spider comes to mind, then entering a bar...........and then it was just me and the Neowash becoming friendly..... :o
RH, where Heartland becomes Heartburn.. ;)
valve bouncer
Oct 30, 06, 4:24 am
Yakitori is the answer. Actually it doesn't matter what the question is, yakitori is still the answer. Yakitori and a nice cold mug of beer. Aaaaahhhhh. ^
LapLap
Nov 1, 06, 12:49 am
Try 2-3 hrs for Cold Stone ice cream @ RH. :p
Oh, so that was why there was such a big queue at the Yokohama branch (under the Landmark Tower).
LapLap
Nov 1, 06, 1:15 am
The downside of this is that you may not want to eat sushi anywhere else after that.
After being fed sushi at several upscale hotels in Yokohama as part of some pretty good keiseki menus (and a botched French/Japanese fusion attempt at the Pan Pacific), as well as on a tatami floored boat, I started to think that perhaps I didn't like sushi very much after all.
And then on my last evening, in the last hour of what turned out to be 6 hours of free time out of a 10 day trip, my father-in-law took me to a sushi restaurant in Azabu-Juban.
Glorious! Sheer heaven. I couldn't stop hugging myself with pleasure at each new mouthfull. (The sake I had with it translated as 'bottomless' and was a dry one from Niigata, served cold in a segment of fresh green bamboo). The yuzu tinged tsukemono was wonderful, even the green tea at the end was excellent.
And I'd been all ready to decline the invitation...
Perhaps you could leave your wife in bed early one morning and get yourself to Tsukiji fish market. Find the longest queue outside the small sushi restaurants and join it. Time it right and she may not even notice you've gone.
Pickles
Nov 1, 06, 5:30 am
And then on my last evening, in the last hour of what turned out to be 6 hours of free time out of a 10 day trip, my father-in-law took me to a sushi restaurant in Azabu-Juban.
Glorious! Sheer heaven. I couldn't stop hugging myself with pleasure at each new mouthfull. (The sake I had with it translated as 'bottomless' and was a dry one from Niigata, served cold in a segment of fresh green bamboo). The yuzu tinged tsukemono was wonderful, even the green tea at the end was excellent.
Name! A name! The peanut gallery wants a name! And a map, if it is hard to find. Don't be coy.
LapLap
Nov 1, 06, 8:07 am
Name! A name! The peanut gallery wants a name! And a map, if it is hard to find. Don't be coy.
All I have is a meishi in Kanji
However, my code breaking skills have resulted in this:
A lot of places (for example, izakayas and regular restaurants) will also offer sashimi in addition to other things, but that's not the prime stuff. Edible to very good, but rarely for the connoisseur, except at high-end kaseiki or kappo places, which you rightly point out should avoid.
While I'm sure you've had better, Pickles, Akaoni (an izakaya in Sangenjaya) has very good sashimi. I was a bit taken aback the first time I called to make a reservation (which you need to do) and was asked, after I gave the number of people in my party, "And what would you like to do about sashimi?" If you pre-order, you get a slightly better selection. I'd recommend doing ichi-nin-mae for every 2 people in your party if you'd like to eat anything else.
Pickles
Nov 1, 06, 9:04 am
All I have is a meishi in Kanji
However, my code breaking skills have resulted in this:
Naruhodo. I notice that right in the middle of their home page it says:
最近はよく外国人の方が見えます. I don't know if that's something to be proud of or a warning to the natives.
Calcifer
Nov 1, 06, 9:07 am
Naruhodo. I notice that right in the middle of their home page it says:
最近はよく外国人の方が見えます. I don't know if that's something to be proud of or a warning to the natives.
Given that it's in the Juban, you wouldn't expect it to be a particularly recent development, either...
mosburger
Nov 2, 06, 2:03 am
Naruhodo. I notice that right in the middle of their home page it says:
最近はよく外国人の方が見えます. I don't know if that's something to be proud of or a warning to the natives.
First comes the scout in form of Anthony Bourdain, then the main bee swarm follows. :D
You want to go where?
Nov 3, 06, 6:47 am
Thanks for all the suggestions, both light-hearted and serious. I know that I will take advantage of Pickles' advice. ^
747heavy
Nov 3, 06, 8:01 am
OK, here is my challenge.
I will eat just about anything so no problems there. However, my wife is much more particular, and unfortunately, her dislike/won't eat category coincides badly with the Japanese diet. ...
In addition to the many helpful messages already posted, I would just add this general bit of advice for people with specific diet requirements in Japan: many Japanese restaurants are not at all used to "special orders", special requests, or substitutions of any kind. (On the contrary, if you are in an upscale western-style hotel, for example, they are of course very happy to cater to any special requests.) This type of flexibility is just not common in most restaurants. Because a restaurant offers fried eggs, does not mean they can also make hard-boiled or even scrambled eggs, for that matter. Something as "simple" as asking for the salad dressing on the side may not be so simple in Japan.
Also, there can easily be communication/cultural "misunderstandings". For example, vegetarian friends in Japan have ordered something like Fried Rice, after asking if it contained meat. The response was, "Oh, no -- just rice and vegetables." It sounds perfect, but then the dish arrives and it is filled with a million bits of ham. Somehow the ham didn't register as "meat".
I would agree with the previous advice about having specific diet needs written out in Japanese. It will save a lot of time and frustration.
Having said all that, there are lots of wonderful things to eat in Japan. Good luck!
oldpenny16
Nov 6, 06, 6:44 am
However, A Japanese friend wrote out for me a set of instuctions and warnings about my food situation. I carried that with me everywhere and never had a problem.
I can eat fish raw or cooked which left me with many choices.
I had more than enough fun eating ice cream creations in Japan. I picked out what I wanted from the plastic models.
I found that people in Japan were very kind and helpful to me on the food issues. I've made 2 trips and can't wait to spend more time in Japan.